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London: 5 Muslim Vigilantes Arrested for Violence & Harassment


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Rob and J
- 631 days ago - asiaone.com
The Muslims have been abusing passers-by for being gay ('you're dirty'), drinking alcohol or wearing mini-skirts in what they said was a "Muslim area". The 5 were all arrested on suspicion of grievous bodily harm and public order offences.



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Rob and Jay B. (121)
Saturday January 26, 2013, 12:21 am
Here's the article:

Friday, Jan 25, 2013
LONDON - Five people have been arrested in London after videos emerged online of a group of men abusing passers-by for being gay, drinking alcohol or wearing mini-skirts in what they said was a "Muslim area", police said Friday.

The arrests were made over what Scotland Yard described as "filmed harassments" in east London, an area with a high concentration of Muslims, earlier this month.

Detectives voiced particular concern about a YouTube video entitled "Muslim vigilantes in London harass and taunt gay male", in which a group of men verbally abuse a man in the street for being homosexual.

"Don't you know this is a Muslim area?" an off-camera voice in the video says. "You're walking through a Muslim area dressed like a fag, mate. You need to get out of here... You're dirty, mate. You're gay mate, get out of here... You bloody ***."

Detective Chief Inspector Wendy Morgan urged the victim to come forward, saying the police "takes such homophobic behaviour very seriously".

"This man is a crucial witness in the investigation and would encourage him and anyone else with information relating to this incident to make contact in confidence as soon as possible," she said.

Another video posted on YouTube, entitled "Muslims enforcing Sharia Law on the streets of London" and dated January 2013, shows other people being harassed.

It shows a group of men asking a woman in a mini-skirt to "not dress like this in a Muslim area". The girl says she is "appalled", adding: "This is Great Britain." But the man says: "It's not so Great Britain."

The men also ask revellers out on a Saturday night to move away from their mosque, and demand that one man put down his beer, saying: "No drink in this area... this is a Muslim patrol. Alcohol is evil."

Five men aged between 17 and 29 years old have been arrested since Sunday, all on suspicion of grievous bodily harm and public order offences.

One was held in Acton, west London, and the others in east London, police
 

Carola May (20)
Saturday January 26, 2013, 12:48 am
HERE ARE TWO OF THE VIDEOS (SHORT) FOR THOSE INTERESTED AND WHO HAVEN'T SEEN THEM:

http://youtu.be/1yLeJfT1GWY AND: http://youtu.be/9unl7D7ZmBs

This one shows Muslim leaders calling for Muslims to take over and enforce Sharia Law - so no wonder these bigoted 'Muslim Patrol' creeps feel emboldened to do this. Watch this, it is chilling:

http://youtu.be/dN6CHtGGo4g
 

Stan B. (123)
Saturday January 26, 2013, 12:49 am
Great news J. Now let's see what happens to them. I'm not holding my breath. These thugs will be out on the streets, harassing innocent people again very soon.
 

Rahman Qureshi (76)
Saturday January 26, 2013, 12:53 am
How hypocritical of Muslims to denounce "immoral" activities when Islam is full of woman-hating, non-believer hating, oppressing teachings. If these Muslims want to fight immorality, fight the Pakistanis who have ranked Pakistan in top searches for child rape, rape, donkey sex, horse sex and the like. Fight the sex slavery brothels of girls as young as 6 in Iran. Fight the Saudi's buying Christian girls from Egypt for sex as "summer brides." In other words, if they want to fight against immorality, let them FIGHT ISLAM!
 

Hilary S. (45)
Saturday January 26, 2013, 1:38 am
does that sign really express the megalomaniac desire of muslims (well, muslim males) to dominate everyone else. such bullies!
 

Ge M. (218)
Saturday January 26, 2013, 1:57 am
This behaviour has been happening for years. When Jack Straw, and English MP, was in the Home Office he visited the East End of London and was told by a Muslim leader that he was not welcome there as it was Muslim land. Jack Straw told him that he was entitled to go anywhere in the country as it belonged to the UK. He also spoke out against women covering theri faces and one must bear in mind that a quarter of his constituents were Muslim, theat was quite brave.

"Jack Straw, the ex-foreign secretary, has angered Muslim groups by suggesting women who wear veils over their face can make community relations harder.

The Blackburn MP says the veil is a "visible statement of separation and of difference" and he asks women visiting his surgery to consider removing it."
 

Suheyla C. (229)
Saturday January 26, 2013, 3:24 am
Sharia bigoted application. Today's innocence is indisputable laws. This is what the prophet brings bring sharia law. I do not connect. God bless us, the laws of Sharia. These laws are for retarded people.
 

Suheyla C. (229)
Saturday January 26, 2013, 3:32 am
Justice is bought and sold as commodities in a place to wait for the woman. These crazy
 

Vlasta M. (7)
Saturday January 26, 2013, 3:59 am
Time to educate citizens of Western countries what Qur'an and Islamic history teach us about this "religions of peace" (as Muslims like to pretend): Islam is a supremacist ideology, similar to supremacist Nazi ideology, including a delusional Jew hate which is now rampant in 58 Muslim-majority countries, where the Protocols of the Elders of Zion and Mein Kampf are bestsellers. In addition, Islam condones pedophilia, polygamy, misogyny, dhimmitude and murder for Allahu Akbar, and it is incompatible with the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. It should be treated like other supremacist ideologies, such as Nazism, Communism, and Fascism and not let into society that respect liberty, justice and human rights.
 

Suheyla C. (229)
Saturday January 26, 2013, 4:13 am
Thank you Viasta M. for comment. I send GREEN Star you. I agree whit you.
 

Vlasta M. (7)
Saturday January 26, 2013, 4:47 am
Everybody should read a reorganized copy of Qur'an (http://www.cspipublishing.com/pdfs/ATwoHourKoran.pdf ) to understand the threat of this supremacist Nazi-like ideology of Islam, with its delusional Jew hatred, and condoning pedophilia, polygamy, misogyny, dhimmitude and murder for Allah.

Also, people should be aware that Muslims' delusional Jew hatred is rising and is worse than it was in Europe before WWII but the "human rights activists", who condemn Israel for defending itself from another Holocaust, totally ignore it and it appears that there is a conspiracy of silence all over the world when it comes to Muslims delusional Jew hatred . Jews are called by Muslim leaders bloodsuckers and descendants from pigs and apes (see "The Sons of Pigs and Apes":Muslim Antisemitism and the Conspiracy of Silence http://www.potomacbooksinc.com/Books/BookDetail.aspx?productID=271884)

Europe and Australia are overrun and over-burden with these haters of the countries that had enable Muslims to be fed, unlike in their sharia run corrupt dysfunctional home countries. Europeans should not tolerate any expression of Islam that is not compatible with human rights of others and everybody who dares to attack non-Muslims and Muslim children and women who are abused by their fathers and husbands should be deported back to their Muslim majority countries.
 

Barbara K. (83)
Saturday January 26, 2013, 5:56 am
Poor London, hope the Brits can take their country back from those heathens.
 

Rob and Jay B. (121)
Saturday January 26, 2013, 6:59 am
Rahman Q, very good point. It is amazing how many Orthodox Muslims claim such moral superiority over us 'decadent' non-Muslims when it is they who follow an ideology that condones killing people who criticize it or leave it, rape victims, non-Muslims and gay people. An ideology whose deity condones taking sex slaves, as well as other slaves (as long as they are hated non-Muslims), 'marrying' and having sex with little girls, having multiple 'wives' to slake their lust with, then easy divorce to get new fresh meat when they tire of the old ones, and unlimited numbers of 'temporary marriages' (we call it prostitution) just for sex, but it is oh so 'moral' because they get a permit from their imam. Yes, Islam is a real 'moral' godly religion, not. There is nothing moral about Islam to anyone who has actually read its ugly scriptures, as we have. We have never read such disgusting, depressing, often hilariously stupid filth.

Good points Vlasta.

Thanks.
 

Patrick Donovan (319)
Saturday January 26, 2013, 7:35 am
What makes these nut jobs any worse than a fundamentalist christian doing the same thing? In the USA, Oral Roberts get a tax-exempt college to preach his hate.

If you are against this hatred, be honest and acknowledge that it is not the religion, it is particular people's expression of it.

Otherwise, you are just another racist.
 

Vlasta M. (7)
Saturday January 26, 2013, 8:17 am
Islam = Nazism + pedophilia, polygamy, misogyny, dhimmitude and murder for Allahu Akbar.(http://www.cspipublishing.com/pdfs/ATwoHourKoran.pdf )

Sue mosques all over the world for spreading hate speech and inciting public unrest by the immigrant Muslims. Sue all organizations and individuals that are helping hide the true nature of Islam. Stop using oil, and depleted financing of this supremacist ideology of hate by the Saudi, Iranian and other Arab oil.

Truth shall set us free from this scourge, promoted by US Caliph-in-Chief who should be tried for treason of American values and subverting US Constitution and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights at the UN. Speak up before it is too late and the enemies of the Western civilization is embedded deep into our societies.
 

Rob and Jay B. (121)
Saturday January 26, 2013, 8:51 am
Patrick D, you are incredibly naive and ignorant of what Islam actually teaches! No where does Jesus ever tell his followers to hate, do violence, persecute, oppress or kill anyone. He taught just the opposite. Where do even these odious so-called Christians you mention preach killing?

Islam is the only religion that does NOT teach the Golden Rule, except for other Muslims and it is the only one that commands that those who criticize or leave it be killed along with gays, rape victims and all non-Muslims. You are defending hate by defending this cult of death and hate and you're letting your own hate for Christianity blind you.

Racist???? Since when is Islam a race? Its followers are of all races. Are you a racist for hating Christianity?

You really need to get some education. Read the Qur'an, hadith and sirah as we have. They're sickening, perverted and full of hate and violence (sometimes just plain hilariously stupid too)

Here are just a few of the many verses of hate in Islamic scripture that shows what Islam does teach. Show us verses from the Gospels where Jesus says anything remotely like this:

“. . . slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush. . .” Q 9:5 THE VERSE OF THE SWORD ABROGATES SOME 113 EARLIER VERSES


Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 327: - “Allah said, ‘A prophet must slaughter before collecting captives. A slaughtered enemy is driven from the land. Muhammad, you craved the desires of this world, its goods and the ransom captives would bring. But Allah desires killing them to manifest the religion.’” AND:
Qur'an 8:67:" It is not for any prophet to have captives until he hath made slaughter in the land. Ye desire the lure of this world and Allah desireth (for you) the Hereafter, and Allah is Mighty, Wise."

Muhammad said, "Allah marvels at those who are brought to paradise in chains"
(Bukhari 52:254). (people who are forced to convert)

"Instill terror in the hearts of the unbelievers". [Qur'an 8:12]

Reliance of the Traveller, o9.0:
"Jihad means to war against non-Muslims."
The Reliance of the Traveller is Sunni Islam’s authoritative volume on Sharia law. It is endorsed by Alazhar University, Islam’s equivalent of the Vatican.

Narrated Abdullah ibn Umar:
I heard the Apostle of Allah say: When you enter into the inah transaction (become businessmen), hold the tails of oxen (become cattlemen), are pleased with agriculture (become farmers), and give up conducting jihad, Allah will make disgrace prevail over you, and will not withdraw it until you return to your original religion. - Sunan Abu Dawud Book 23, Number 3455
Conducting jihad is the ‘original religion’ of Mohammed. Mohammed is the authority on Islam.

Sahih Muslim Book 26:5389 recorded from Abu Hurayrah that the Prophet said,
(Do not initiate the Salam [peace greeting] to the Jews and Christians, and if you meet any of them in a road, force them to its narrowest alley.)

"...and never will Allah grant to the unbelievers a way (to triumph) over the believers." 4:141

"O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for friends." Qur’an 5:51

"He (Allah) does not love the unbelievers." Qur’an 30:45

“Allah’s Apostle said...’I have been made victorious with terror’” Bukhari 52:220

"Killing unbelievers (non-Muslims) is a small matter to us." Mohammed, Tabari 9:69

"O you who believe! Fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you harshness." Qur’an 9:1

"Fight everyone in the way of Allah and kill those who disbelieve in Allah." Mohammed, Ibn Ishaq 992

"Muhammed is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves." Q48:29

"...for the Prophet said, "If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him." Bukhari 4:52:260

"War is ordained of Allah."Qur’an 2:216

"Lo! Those who disbelieve our revelations, we shall expose them to the fire. As often as their skins are consumed we shall exchange them for fresh skins that they may taste the torment (again). Lo! Allah is ever mighty, wise." Q4:56 (but not forgiving or merciful) This helps engender hatred of non-Muslims

THE PUNISHMENT FOR THOSE WHO CRITICIZE OR OPPOSE ISLAM, ALLAH, MO:
“The only reward of those who make war upon Allah and His messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be that they will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet on alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. Such will be their degradation in the world, and in the Hereafter theirs will be an awful doom.” QUR’AN 5:33
(Authoritative quranic commentator Ibn Kathis intreprets this to mean ‘criticism’ or ‘to engage in opposition’ to Islam)

Most Christians and Jews 'are evil-livers' Qur’an 5:59

"The Prophet said, 'But for the Israelis, meat would not decay, and if it
were not for Eve, wives would never betray their husbands.'"Bukhari:V4B55N547 (Jews were turned into apes, dogs & pigs by Allah and Jews today are still described by Muslims as 'descendents' of these animals.)

Non-Muslims are "the most vile of created beings." Qur’an 98:6

How much more do you need to open your eyes? There are 109 verses of hate against non-Muslims in the Qur'an alone and many more in the hadith (the sayings and actions of Mohammed) and sirah (the very whitewashed version of Mohammed's biography).

It most certainly is the religion that promotes this hatred and Orthodox Muslims doing it are obeying Mohammed's/Allah's commands to the letter.

What's with you so-called 'liberals' and your willful blindness to this ugly 'religion'? Why don't you condemn the hate it preaches and care about the many victims of it - women, children (Islam condones marrying and having sex with little girls like Mohammed himself did with 6 y/o Aisha - are you defending this!), and the killing of those who criticize or leave it and gays, rape victims and all non-Muslims. You are promoting/defending hate if you are defending this evil.

You certainly accept spewing hatred against the so-called Christians who don't even come close to preaching this kind of barbaric bigotry and hatred. What a hypocrite!
 

Carola May (20)
Saturday January 26, 2013, 9:31 am
Patrick Donovan, only someone incredibly ill-informed could make such a ridiculous and offensive statement. I've read the holy books of Islam, including Sharia law and I can't believe you would say such ignorant things without doing some research and learning about these things before making such absurd comments.

Whose side are you on? You come on here and condemn those who actually know what they are talking about and who are speaking out against hate - the hate of Islam, without the slightest knowledge of what you are talking about?!

You should be ashamed for supporting and defending this ideology of murder, persecution, homophobia, oppression of women and abuse of children. The blatant and deliberate hatred of people who claim to be progressives on this site is mind boggling.

It was liberals just like you who appeased and pandered to Hitler and the Nazis too, and condemned those, like Churchill, who tried to warn of their threat. Now you are doing it with Islam, an ideology that has many similarities with Islam.

Your lack of concern for those abused and killed by this death cult is very disturbing. Do you have any idea what it actually teaches? Obviously not. Well, here is just some of the ugly things it teaches about women:

Mohammed said: "O women! Give alms, as I have seen that the majority of the dwellers of Hell-fire were you (women)...I have not seen anyone more deficient in intelligence & religion than you...Is not the evidence of two women equal to the witness of one man?...This is the deficiency in her intelligence. Isn't it true that a woman can neither pray nor fast during her menses?...This is the deficiency in her religion."Bukhari 1:6:301

Because Allah afflicted Eve, all of the women of this world menstruate & are stupid."Tabari I:280

'They question thee (O Muhammad) concerning menstruation. Say: It is an illness, so let women alone at such times & go not in unto them till they are cleansed...' Q2:222

"Mohammed said,'Amongst the inmates of Paradise women would form a minority.'" Sahih Muslim 36:6600:1

Âishah relates that the Prophet... said: “I do not permit a woman in her menses or a person in a state of major ritual impurity into the mosque.” [Sunan Abî Dâwûd, Sunan Ibn Mâjah, Sunan al-Bayhaqî, and Sahîh Ibn Khuzaymah] Abu Dawud 232

Abu Dawood:2142 - "The Prophet said: A man will not be asked as to why he beat his wife."

"Allah permits you to shut them in separate rooms & to beat them...Treat women well for they are like domestic animals & they possess nothing themselves. Allah has made the enjoyment of their bodies lawful in his Qur'an."Tabari IX:113

"Allah directs you in regard of your Children's (inheritance): to the male, aportion (sic) equal to that of two females.... These are settled portions ordained by Allah."Qur'an 4:11

"If any of your women are guilty of lewdness, take the evidence of four witnesses from amongst you against them; if they testify, confine them to houses until death claims them."Qur'an 4:15 What about 'lewd' men?

"When we reached Khaybar, Muhammad said that Allah had enabled him to conquer them. It was then that the beauty of Safiyah was described to him. Her husband had been killed (by Mohammed), so Allah's Apostle selected her for himself... took her for his wife, consummating his marriage to her, & forcing her to wear the veil.'"Bukhari:V4B52N143 &V5B59N523

Do you really need to hear more than this? Tell me where Jesus Christ or Buddha said anything like this. Mohammed had hundreds murdered for not accepting him as a prophet - 900 Jewish men and boys were beheaded in Medina and your buddy Mohammed sat and laughed the whole time and counted up their property he stole and then doled out their women and children as sex slaves or sold them off as slaves to others. He kept the most beautiful widow for himself, raping her after having just had her husband cruelly beheaded. When did Jesus or Buddha do anything as Satanic as this?

Mohammed also 'married' and had sex with 6 year old Aisha, had people tortured horribly, he was a bandit, raped captive women, kidnapped and held people for ransom, had sex with a corpse, lied, broke treaties, and forced people to convert to his violent new 'religion' by the sword, just how Islam was spread from then on. And his god, Allah the old pagan moon god, condoned and smiled on it all.

I've seen you make similar offensive statements before, calling people 'racists' etc for opposing hatred and bigotry preached and practiced by Islam. You obviously have made no effort to educate yourself about this evil ideology in the mean time. You have no credibility.

So you have no excuse for your ignorant defence of hate here are the Qur'an and hadith online for you to read. At least read Buhkari, the most respected of all the hadith. I'm giving you the Qur'an in chronological order that goes with the hadith, since the Qur'an is not in the order written. Any early Medinan verses that are more tolerant were all abrogated by the later ones that replaced them when Mohammed moved to Meccah and became a warlord and bandit:

The Qur'an: http://www.bombaxo.com/chronsurs.html

The hadith: http://www.hadithcollection.com/

RELIANCE OF THE TRAVELLER (the ultimate authority on Islamic/Sharia Law):
http://www.islamicbulletin.com/free_downloads/resources/reliance2_complete.pdf

Now you have no more excuses for siding with hate and bigotry.
 

Tommy S. (11)
Saturday January 26, 2013, 9:47 am
toilet roll of the week award to Patrick Donovan
 

Vlasta M. (7)
Saturday January 26, 2013, 9:50 am
Telling truth about the ideology of Islam is NOT racist, just as telling truth about truth about Nazism is not racist or bigoted. Muslims who had read Qur'an and learned the history of Islam, which is a supremacist ideology of hate of non-Muslims, and still stay members of Muslim mosques, should be treated as members of the Nazi party, since they subscribe to same Jew hating supremacist ideology which is even worse than Nazism.

IT is too bad that US ambassador in Libya was unaware of what the followers of Islam will do to him if they catch him unarmed! If he did, he may be alive now...

 

Rob and Jay B. (121)
Saturday January 26, 2013, 9:56 am
Thanks Tommy and Vlasta for joining us 'racists' in opposing racism, bigotry, hate and oppression in Islam. Some die-hard Communists still believe Stalin was a kind man!
 

Tommy S. (11)
Saturday January 26, 2013, 10:14 am
@ Patrick Donovan
When I see statements like :-
quote....If you are against this hatred, be honest and acknowledge that it is not the religion, it is particular people's expression of it.
Otherwise, you are just another racist.
Unquote


PD exhibits the classic Dunning-Kruger effect and as to whether these people can ever be open to facts is questionable.
The only other feasible conclusion is that PD is actually a muslim practicing taqiyya ..... but then a muslim would know that islam isn't a "Race"

 

Sue Fowler (6)
Saturday January 26, 2013, 10:18 am
What is happening in our beautiful country Is quite frightening. I worry about the future for my grandchildren in this so called multi cultural society which used to be Great Britain.
 

Patrick Donovan (319)
Saturday January 26, 2013, 10:25 am
To the bigots and haters calling me naive:
1) read the Christian bible if you want to learn the best ways and reasons to kill people who you don't like
2) For over 30 years, I've been working in NYC on a daily basis with Arabs, Jains, Hindus, Asians, and the whole pantheon of colors in the US.
People are people, when one starts categorizing all similar people together, you are a racist.

This all I have to say on this hate filled page.
 

Winn Adams (192)
Saturday January 26, 2013, 10:30 am
Noted
 

Carol Dreeszen (365)
Saturday January 26, 2013, 10:45 am
GOOD!!!It's about time!!!!
 

Carol Dreeszen (365)
Saturday January 26, 2013, 10:47 am
1) read the Christian bible if you want to learn the best ways and reasons to kill people who you don't like

Patrick...Do you suppose these evil Muslims read this too!? Didn't work if they did!
 

Allan Yorkowitz (453)
Saturday January 26, 2013, 11:08 am
I believe there will come a time when these fools are going to approach the wrong people, and their will be a wave of anti-Muslim violence in the streets. If only the government would do a damn thing about it before this happens.
 

pam w. (191)
Saturday January 26, 2013, 11:40 am
Patrick is correct when he says right-wing Christian fundamentalists are equally hate-filled and obnoxious.

He's wrong when he says that pointing out these facts makes one racist.

"RACIST" is a meaningless term here, Patrick. Islam (the religion of permanent offense) has no love or charity in its inner "heart." That statement makes me a REALIST....not a RACIST.
 

monica r. (41)
Saturday January 26, 2013, 12:14 pm
Patrick says "This all I have to say on this hate filled page."

We should be so lucky!

He seems to have blatant fallacies in his "logic" which are just glaring.

First off, what "race" is islam? Black? White? Hispanic? Asian? Arab? What? Because people of every race claim the RELIGION (ideology, NOT a race) of islam as their faith. To not like or approve of the many human rights abuses within islam does not make one a racist. It makes one a human rights activist.

Second, in one sentence he states it isn't the religion but just some people, then in another says "people are people" and says classifying certain types together is racist. Ridiculous. You can't have it both ways.

Lets take that logic forward though, just for fun. I'm a teacher. I get lumped together with all other teachers all the time. We get talked about in the media frequently in not-very-nice ways. We get blamed for standardized test grades being low when the main indicator of test performance has been proven to be students' poverty level. I'm proud to be a teacher. I am not exactly like every other teacher. But we ARE classified together as a group. If you've ever generalized about teachers, by Patrick's logic you are a racist. But "teacher" is no more a race than "muslim" is. I chose to be a teacher. Muslims choose to be a muslim. Race is not something you can choose or change your mind about. Career and religion are. For the record, the way the human brain works is to compartmentalize or group everything. You literally can't not do it.

As to who is "hateful" I guess it depends who you see as the victim:
The imam who is vilified for beating slow (possibly special ed!) madrassa students? Or the students beaten to the point of broken bones?
The man whose wife doesn't feel like having sex tonight? Or the wife he beats into submission and then rapes?
The man who refuses to grant his wife a divorce because it will dishonor the family? Or the wife who is beheaded by him while her kids are sitting in the car waiting for her? (this happened in New York, by the way)
The muslim who believes gays deserve to die? Or the young muslim men or boys hanged off cranes for no other reason than they are SUSPECTED of being gay.

The first person in each scenario is following islam to the letter, the second is a victim of its inherent cruelty.

Satan vomited and islam is what splatted on the floor.
 

Ge M. (218)
Saturday January 26, 2013, 12:38 pm
Patrick, I'm surprised at you, it is the ideology of hatred, murder, rape and abuse that is being challenged as well as those that enforce it such as in Saudi and Mali. I have worked with and am friends with some wonderful people, including Muslims. I do not despise someone for being a Muslim, I despise the person who walks up to any person living in the UK and tells them that they are not welcome on public streets because it belongs to Muslims. It is known as inverted racism and is as unacceptable as someone beating up a person for being a Muslim or a Jew.

I have never seen any one person here say that all Muslims are bad but you have just stated that all Christians are because it is in the bible. That is racist in itself - or is it religionist? Which version of Christianity are you abusing? Is it all Christians or a selected few?

Far too many people assume that a dislike of hatred, abuses, murder and rape as authorised to the followers of Mohammed is racist or, that wonderful made up word, Islamophobia meaning a hatred of all Muslims. No such thing but it is easier to say so rather than read about Islam or to debate. And to support their ignorance they refer to the bible. But, whatever was written a couple of thousand years ago is no longer practiced, no stoning to death etc as society has grown and changed. Muslim societies have changed because they use the changes from other countries but they still practice such abuses as stoning women who have been raped and hang gays, they have not grown or improved in any way.



 

Russell R. (2)
Saturday January 26, 2013, 12:56 pm
You're dirty, mate. You're gay mate, get out of here... You bloody ***." at-least they are BLOODY trying to asimulate MATE!
Pat D ~ You want to take from the Chritian Bible, especially, from the Old Testament, which is basically contains all of the Jewish Prophets, which some how became all of the same prophets of islam which from their point of view are apes. The Torah of the Apes is the work of the misguided book they call the "quran" filled with the same passages that the illiterate Moham claimed he received from allah. Do you even know the story of Moham the deciever? He had epilepsy and was consider to be possessed by demons. No one would dare kill him or do him harm because then they will be possessed by these demons. His father, who was well to do and lived in the city took his son out iof the city into the dessert to live with tribesmen that he paid to take care of him. Here is a boy being deserted by his father and if you know anything about epilepsy, you don't even know abouut these epidsodes when they happen. He grew up to trader and was trusted in selling the goods of these herdsmen and fetching them a fair price. He traveled many places and learning from stories as he was welcomed into the tents of many alond his travels.Most of these stories were about that prophets and the stories of what was "God's Chosen People!" This is what he returned with, the profit of his deals and the local stories he was told of ll these great men, Holy Men. Here is where he becomes the great the deceiever and used his epilepsy fits and proclaimed they were visions from Allah. The beginning of the making of the BS book called the quran, the uncorupted book of messages written over time by people that were able to read and write. So the uncorrupted book may be corrupted, because Moham could not read what was written and all these papers weren't put together until after his death. He made sure that he could not be held to his own laws because what ever he does is not a sin a pass that same, abaove the law rule to his caliefs. Now to build an army should be to hard when you have a people that have very little when those in the city have plenty and that plenty all belongs to allah, who he visioned during his fits. It was time for Moham to take revenge for a life that was taken from him when he was a child. Come follow me and reap your rewards! An army of thieves, cut throats, etc. out to get what they can. It wasn't about religion in the beginning, not with the army of thugs that Moham put together and set loose on the innocent. Now how to put some control over the savages he put together- shariah! Shared $hit! The rules that are set for you but not for me and those that I have chosen! The birth of islamic society! Go out and kill those that will not be part of our society, or are willing to pay to stay! Even the Vikings, which were feared, realized that just conqueirng a people, killing and taking want they wanted wasn't such a good plan and began to work out agreements and created a better society which lives on today in a peaceful society, the Danes, Swedes , Norwegians and other various cultures which are now feeling like they are losing their identity for welcoming muslam irritants!
Now lets get to those that are considered pigs by islam, the Christians! Islam is so fracked up that the they are calling the Great Teachers of islam, pigs. Jesus, considered the Greatest Teacher was born of Jewish Faith which according to them is an ape and his Apostles, also Jews, aka apes, where the beginning of the Christian Faith which christ said "Uponthis Rock, I wil build my Church!" The Rock, that Jesus spoke of was "Pete!" which islam also cosiders one of the "Great Theachers!" So, not only tdoes islam consider him an ape because Peter was a Jew, but also now a pig because he is the Rock on with the CHristian Faith was built on.
This only shows goes to show how much islam is messed up. The only pig in this whloe story is Moham himself and those that follow him I wouldn't even call apes because that would be an insult to a great creature! Oral Rpberts is a pig and his no better than moham when it comes to the Christian Faith and the Message that Christ brought to us which is to LOVE! Something that we have not forefilled, or we would be living in Paradise here on Earth! Instead we, not all, let GREED rule the way! You may say all because we let the Goliaths of the World stand in our Path, when like David, we can take them down with one blow if we did become "One," another message taught by "Jesus!"
~PD - I hope you learned a little something today - I have been researching Moham and islam, ever since I brought a 1895 Issue of Harpers Magazine in which there was an indept article on Moham. That was 15 years ago and all of it is coming true, before islam showed its ugly face, I didn't believe what was written about him because it didn't seem like it with the few muslims that I knew. They were very nice people and did assimulate to the American way and it is for them I fear for shiteriah reaching our shores. Them came to get away from that way of life and adopted American customs alond with the Faith they believe in. Its this new breed of young punks that have been brain washed to accept a mob rule attitude because they are "BLOODY" different, "MATE!"
 

Christine W. (10)
Saturday January 26, 2013, 12:56 pm
If they are unhappy with this country they should go elsewhere !!!
 

David Menard (43)
Saturday January 26, 2013, 2:18 pm
If western ways and democracy offend them. Get the Hel out of the West go back to the Islamist state you came from! Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out!
 

Craig Zimmerman (86)
Saturday January 26, 2013, 3:18 pm
I object to Christians being lumped in with Muslim extremists. True Chritian believers are taught to love their neighbor and even to love their enemies. I see nothing like that from Muslims.
 

Marie Therese Hanulak (30)
Saturday January 26, 2013, 3:35 pm
I hope they throw their in jail. Our country, our laws, Jail is a good way to remind them that they are not at home, they're in our home.
These invaders are not interested in assimilitaing. They want us to be assimilated by them or disappear
The only reason they immigrate is for the money. The riches and comfort that they could not dream off in thier
sodomised societies.
Can't understand why our government is so easy on them. They need to be taught how to act here, but they get away with things that none of us would gat away with,
Soon it will to late, and we will all end up in the 7th century where they still live.
 

Tom Edgar (56)
Saturday January 26, 2013, 3:39 pm
Patrick Donovan. What you said regarding it being the Person not the religion is, to some extent, absolutely spot on. Be they Christian, Hindu, Muslim, et al., the poorly educated extremists will justify their tunnel vision interpretation of their beliefs to justify their bigotry.

Some of the vile invective directed at Donovan is misplaced as I saw his initial remarks to be conciliatory and even-handed. Being an atheist myself I have no particular religious axe to grind. I have numbered as close friends over a long life Christians, Jews, and Muslims, some being leaders in their respective religions.

Being an organic grower I do not condemn my neighbour for growing his crops with chemical controls. AS LONG AS HE DOESN'T CONTAMINATE MY PLACE. Religion is no different. Practice your superstitious beliefs and the best of luck to you, just don't impose them on me.
 

Sandra S. (8)
Saturday January 26, 2013, 4:15 pm
It amazes me that there are still mental midgets out there such as Patrick Donovan. Unfrickenbelievable.....take it from an ex-Muslim married to an ex-Muslim who has researched & read both the reeking, foul Quran and the stinking Bible. I'm well aware of what both UNholy manuals for religious criminals teach.

The disgusting, criminal manner in which Islamists are behaving in Western & European countries is EXACTLY the same way they behave in their own countries. They haven't quite yet gotten to the public lynchings yet. It's coming. Indonesia has a group called the FPI (Front Pembala Islam/Islamic Defenders Front). They loot & destroy places of business, tear down national monuments & historical pieces of art, assault all of those who do not live by their psychotic ideologies - including other Muslims & even non-Muslim children, and hold mass riots & beat downs of citizens in their societies for which they are NEVER prosecuted. Their Islamic government & police protect them, instead arresting & prosecuting those who the FPI assault.

Unless we want these mentally disturbed Muhammadian criminals completely taking control of our countries & governments, it's time we started handing out our own justice where these Nazi-ideology supporting buggers are concerned. Do not stand idly by when you see these things happening around you in your country which involve Islamists physically abusing others or verbally attacking them. How many of those in the UK who witness these crimes actually say 'NO! YOU GET OUT!' to these Islamists? There wouldn't be much they could do if a crowd of Brits refused to take this bullshit laying down. Instead, they allow these Pigs For Allah to continue violating the human rights of everybody in their country. Likewise in Canada, the US, Australia, etc. It's time we all got our sh1t together. If we do not start acting against these primitive savages immediately, we will completely & totally lose our own societies & cultures. It's our choice.
 

Carol D. (109)
Saturday January 26, 2013, 4:58 pm
Its not being a rascist to not want other people to take away your culture and your identity as a country To not be able to go to certain places in London or anywhere because some fanatics are on their knees praying in the streets or they are telling you that you cannot now drink alcohol wear a certain dress be gay or whatever These people forget that they were invited here or came on a visa and are now changing our laws and trying to change the way we live and think Yes we have Christians Jews buddhists Sikkhs atheists etc but all of these people have settled and mingled with the British way of life and laws Its only the muslims that have nt and now people are beginning to have to tread on egg shells where they are concerned
incase we upset them It should not have to be this way and things will only get worse but the people in high places wont or dont do anything so yes of course Britain will get taken over it seems inevitable!
 

pam w. (191)
Saturday January 26, 2013, 6:50 pm
Carol D...one of the many things I've loved about visitng London is all the neighborhoods of exotic peoples...restaurants, shops, etc. I've never, EVER felt uncomfortable wandering around, poking into little stores, looking at food stalls, etc.

BUT...reading THIS....I wonder how long our British cousins will permit this obvious attempt at intimidation, manipulation and religiously-based HATRED toward non-Muslims?

STAND UP!
 

pam w. (191)
Saturday January 26, 2013, 6:58 pm
Carol, your comment reminds me of one made by a charming Dutchman I met in Haarlem. He spoke of his great concern for the loss of his Dutch culture at the hands of Muslim immigrants who demand that Holland change to suit THEMELVES, teaching public school classes in Turkish, allowing public prayer spaces, etc..

These people are taking advantage of Western European culture which is generally kind to strangers and obliging toward the needs of immigrants. Historically, immigrants have come seeking to BECOME citizens of the new culture.

This is NOT true of Muslims!

I think of that Dutch fellow often and hope he's part of a movement to reclaim their wonderful culture! I certainly would be.....
 

Beth S. (332)
Saturday January 26, 2013, 7:33 pm
Islam, the hateful political ideology w/smatterings of religion stolen and warped from the religions around at the time, is a bane to humanity. What we are seeing now is a campaign designed to make non-Muslims think that Muslims have all the same values that we do and worm their way into powerful positions.

Islam is a totalitarian, supremacist ideology, and it is racist, too.

Kasim Hafeez, 28, is a British-born Muslim of Pakistani descent, tells us, " “I will tell you this; I have never, ever met anyone who claimed to be anti-Zionist who was not also very anti-Semitic as well. There are no differences here. They are one and the same.”

Not only that, the supposedly race-blind ideology is highly racial, even at its heart. Hear how this Pakistani Muslim and other Muslims who are not Arab, are treated when they go to Mecca:

"Hafeez contrasted this to his less than pleasant experience while visiting Saudi Arabia in 2002 for a religious pilgrimage. At the Saudi airport, while waiting in line for passport control, he was sent to the back of the line five times to make way for Arab Muslims, who are considered superior to South Asian Muslims: “I’ve never experienced the level of racism like I did in Saudi Arabia.”

(http://jewishvoiceny.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2421:radical-islamist-turns-ardent-zionist-the-story-of-kasim-hafeez&catid=121:special-features&Itemid=325)
 

Lee Hampton (15)
Saturday January 26, 2013, 7:37 pm
I am so happy to hear about these peoples' arrest. The U.K. needs to start sending these West-hating bigots back to the hell-holes from where they, their parents or ancestors came, instead of sucking dry welfare, health, food, housing, education, police, court and all sorts of budgets dry.

Get 'em out before they turn the West into a hell-hole as they are doing more and more. People will look back and be very, very sorry they didn't take a lot stronger action.
 

Patricia Martin (19)
Saturday January 26, 2013, 7:59 pm
This is what happens when a beastly, misogynistic, death-loving, tribal desert religio-ideology sits on top of humongous oil fields. You get the bastards using oil money to buy politicians, media, Islamic-studies departments at prestigious universities as well as funding terrorism, drug, prostitution and supremacism drives all over the world to raise money for their "holy" ($hit-rambo) jihad to turn the entire globe into Islamic Zombies. Arrest and deport.
 

Jaime A. (33)
Saturday January 26, 2013, 9:09 pm
Noted, Australia prime minister said it best.!!
 

Aurea Walker (204)
Saturday January 26, 2013, 9:18 pm
I have been a member of c2n for a few years and have never seen such vitriolic hate posted as on this one. I am an agnostic and know enough about the BUSINESS OF RELIGION to know they ALL SUCK! What these u.k. Muslims are doing is wrong on so many levels but is it any different than our own USA wrong wing Christians? Gay marriage - NO Abortion - NO violence against women - NO birth control for women - NO
gays adopting children - NO women getting raped - NO SHE WAS ASKING FOR IT Women earning the same amount of pay for the same job - NO are you getting my drift here? I mean really it is all to easy to cast stones against others but we also have many of the same ignorant, asinine beliefs right here.
 

Nancy Black (303)
Saturday January 26, 2013, 10:03 pm
Noted, tweeted, tweeted, shared. The sign tells it all; people who migrate have to learn to live by the custom of the country they are migrating to; they are visitors; if they like the customs and their old country, they should stay there. Hate to have to say this, but I am not a bigot. I believe different stroke for different folks which means I mind my business and as long as no one interferes my freedoms; I won't interfere with there's.
 

Billie C. (2)
Saturday January 26, 2013, 10:26 pm
hopefully all western countries will finally start stopping the take over by muslims. if they want to live as muslims let them go to a muslim country. they can't and won't live with others so ship them out. there is no reason we should give up our countries for them. they were given a chance to have a better life but they prefer to live in the dark ages let them but not in any western country only in their ,muslim countries. what they say they left for was a lie ship them back.
 

Giana Peranio-Paz (388)
Saturday January 26, 2013, 11:08 pm
Noted. This discussion is to potent for me. I concur with all anti Muslim (those who spread hate and murder) comments. It's pretty scary.
 

Tommy S. (11)
Sunday January 27, 2013, 2:45 am

You cannot currently send a toilet roll because you have done so within the last week.

sorry Patrick-- I know you are a regular
 

Klaus Peters (13)
Sunday January 27, 2013, 5:06 am
Instead of trying to save Muslim countries from killing each other, eg. Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan etc. we should clean our own countries first, send them back where they came from. Just look at their morals, disgusting and medival.
 

Phillip Anderton (96)
Sunday January 27, 2013, 5:25 am
This deplorable situation has been created by stupid British politicians from all parties over the past six decades or so, and more recently by the lousy European Union interfering in Britain's affairs. Too late to do anything about it now: these Muslim no-go areas will increase with frightening rapidity in all our major cities and larger towns, because the police are too afraid to be tagged as racists!
 

Vlasta M. (7)
Sunday January 27, 2013, 5:42 am
Giana, it is the Muslims who spread hatred against Western civilization and dream of conquering us and or murder us in the mane of Allah and Mohammed, a pedophile, polygamist, rapist, and murderer who in any decent society would be tried for his crimes and not emulated as a role model by 1.5 BIL>IONS of Muslims in the world.. This "final prophet" of the "most peaceful and perfect" religion of Islam married Aisha, one of his 12 wives, when she was 6 and he was 51, had sex with her when she was 9 and he was 54. When Aisha was 12 (and he was 57) he had 900 Jews from Medina beheaded one by one and enjoy watching the bloody event with his poor wife. That very night he had sex with 17-y old widow of one of the beheaded men.

Peaceful Muslims that you know are pretending that Islam is just like any other religions and therefore should be "respected". Would you respect supremacist Nazi ideology and its "prophet" Hitler? Read Qur'an to learn what it teaches before accusing any body of racism and bigot-ism. Read Qur'an to see for yourself (http://www.cspipublishing.com/pdfs/ATwoHourKoran.pdf ) that it is Islam itself that is the root cause of 9/11/2001./11/2012 terrorism and jihad against Western civilization (Jihad and Jew-Hatred: Islamism, Nazism and the Roots of 9/11,"The Sons of Pigs and Apes": Muslim Antisemitism and the Conspiracy of Silence).
 

Lindsay Kemp (1)
Sunday January 27, 2013, 7:07 am
Well said, Craig. Harassment of this sort should not be happening at all, and the police are right to treat it as being serious.
 

Gene Jacobson (255)
Sunday January 27, 2013, 9:10 am
"No drink in this area... this is a Muslim patrol. Alcohol is evil."

I don't doubt for a second the religion of peace adherents believe the statement on that poster above. As I've said before they are a modern day Trojan Horse in every country which as accepted any of them. They don't get the idea that THEY must assimilate NOT the rest of the country, they must adapt to the culture they now live in, not the other way round. There is NO muslim area in Britain, nor any other free nation, where people may be harassed, vilified and harmed by vigilante's. Some peace they seek. What they do, what they say is the antithesis of peace, so I just wish they'd stop doing what so many neo-nazi groups do which is call themselves the opposite of what they truly are. They are not the religion of peace, they are the religion of that fool with the sign above. And THEY can go to hell, democracy will be here long after this plague is gone.
 

Lynne Buckley (0)
Sunday January 27, 2013, 10:48 am
Good. Their behaviour is wrong. No area is seen as 'Muslim' in England. Their behaviour is harassment. Punish them.
 

Aurea Walker (204)
Sunday January 27, 2013, 1:09 pm
Islam is evil huh? Gee what about the Roman Catholic Church? We do not need to go back centuries and dredge up Torquemada and the inquisition. The current papa/pope sure has done his masterly best to hide his pedophile priest from facing justice, anti gay, anti women (remember nuns on the bus) etc..... But for those who dwell on the evil that Islam is creating, why not ask (those that are left) ALL NATIVE AMERICANS - from canada to patagonia what Christianity did to them? I am NOT defending Islam, but I am trying to have you see the evil of all organized religions. The Jews are the "chosen" of God, the Catholics are the creators of Jesus Christ, the born again Christians have been redeemed and have a straight line to God, the Mormons eternal marriage and multiple wives (as long as you tithe 10% of your GROSS not net income) hell in the Mormon cult you could not be a member of their priesthood if you were of color because your were the children of Cain. The latter day shits = lds's changed right quick when they were about to lose their tax exempt status, this was in the 1970's not a century ago! As insidious as your aforementioned hate of Islam posts show, all religous groups have caused or are STILL causing death and destruction all over the world. When it comes to believing any religous speaker I hold my purse tight at my side and "BELIEVE NOTHING OF WHAT I HEAR AND ONLY HALF OF WHAT I SEE"
 

Suheyla C. (229)
Sunday January 27, 2013, 4:58 pm
Reading woman gets rid of his back hump. Women are not equal to men lose their religion. A man and two women together. Than the woman will testify. Then a man is not equal to a woman .... Okay. The and, it's over for me. End. My I.Q_182. I am a lady. Wants to religious scholars speak up ... Free
 

Suheyla C. (229)
Sunday January 27, 2013, 5:38 pm
They are dirty. To judge others' preferences. Inhuman. Now you are playing God. They think of God. King's. But the servant is doing Kingdom. Throw away all crumpled. Very angry.
 

ellen m. (222)
Sunday January 27, 2013, 11:37 pm
While i do not want Sharia taking root anywhere, i will not condemn a person for his faith if their heart holds peace and love in it, and i do not believe all Muslims hold the same ideology as those whom this article refers to.

My once Catholic converted to Islam sister and her Jewish converted to Christianity husband are all i need to look at to know this to be true, though i have other Muslim friends that only reinforce my beliefs...so go ahead and and dump on me as well if you wish.
As others have already said, there is bad in almost every religion ever created, which is the problem - humans created religion to justify their actions.

For once i'm glad i'm to tired to get riled up over comments...thanks for the post Rob and J
 

Tom Edgar (56)
Monday January 28, 2013, 12:00 am
I really do not understand the invective directed at Donovan. His was the shortest entry and basically said the Extremist Muslim and the Extremist Christian were pretty much the same. Do I hear dissent from that?

I was a close personal friend of a Muslim Imam in Brisbane, a nicer man I know not, unless it was my even closer friendship with a Church of the Nazarene Pastor. Both were practising men of Peace. I hastily admit I can't say the same for some of the Imam's flock, who were the dregs of society, aided and abetted by our staunchly Lutheran State Premier, who was never known to let his religion have a deterrent effect on his Politics.

It is true that you can selectively pick many passages in the Koran that any sane caring person would find objectionable. But you can do the same in the Bible. Don't try to nit pick that by saying Christ didn't preach the Old Testament, The New Testament didn't come into existence for many decades after B C. Jesus didn't bring into being Christianity, others did that long after he was gone. Jesus preached the Torah and was obsessed with returning Judaism to its fundamental roots, and a fat lot of good that did for him.
 

Rob and Jay B. (121)
Monday January 28, 2013, 5:08 am
We certainly do not condemn all Muslims, as many don't even know what Islam really teaches, nor have most of them ever read the Qur'an, let alone the awful hadith or sirah. Many Muslims have moved to the West to escape Islam and still live in fear of violence and death if they openly renounce this religion of peace and tolerance.

BUT ask your nice Muslim friends a simple question and that will answer what they really believe - "Do you renounce the commandments by Mohammed to kill those who criticize or leave Islam, rape victims, gay people and 'disbelievers'"? We've asked that of every Muslim on Care2 for a long time, even those who pretend to tolerance, and NEVER has one of them renounced these awful hateful things. NEVER! That is the real proof of their true beliefs.

It is the teachings and commandments of Islam that we oppose. It teaches hate of all non-Muslims and that they are to be killed. It teaches that those who leave Islam or criticize it should be murdered along with rape victims and gay people. This is what we hate and oppose. What are you saying who condemn us for opposing this ideology of hatred and killing? You are defending hate, so it is more than a little disingenuous for you to criticize us!

Patrick and you others who spew your hate at us, your hatred of right wing Christians/Fundamentalists is somehow different, is it? That must, by your reasoning make you 'racist' and 'hate mongers', doesn't it? Funny how you can spout hatred and bigotry about those you hate but to speak out against an ideology of hate makes us 'racists'? You have never explained how Islam has been somehow classed as a 'race'.

We have given you just a very small number of the verses of hate in Islamic scripture. Where are the corresponding verses of hate from the Gospels of Jesus's teachings? Please share them. We must have missed them when we read the Gospels. Where are the teachings of hatred from the Buddha or the Jains?

We don't believe in any religion, but all religions are NOT the same, and if you'd get beyond your bigotry and hatred you might actually do some studying and learn something.

It is you bigots that are spouting hatred. We are opposed to hatred and that is why we oppose Islam as well as right wing so-called faux 'Christians'. You are the ones who have twisted that into hating all Muslims, so it is you with the problem of ignorance and bigotry. Grow up, pay attention and get some education on the subject before you puke your hateful bile on us. You should be caring about the many victims of Islam - the oppressed and imprisoned women, the sexually used and abused children, the murdered rape victims, gay people and 'pagans'.
 

ellen m. (222)
Monday January 28, 2013, 10:44 am
Wow...just wow.
Yes, there is indeed alot of bgotry and bile being spewn here, but it has not been done by Patrick, that is for sure...

After doing a simple, quick c2 check of your past stories and comments (Rob & Jay), it appears you yoursleves are the ones on a crusade against Islam..
You say you have Muslim friends. They must be very tolerant people..or imaginary.

I'm sorry if some bad past experience has brought you to this mindset, but to infer that Muslims that do not renounce certain parts of what you say are fundamental tenents of their faith are uninformed at best is wrong...and sad -for you.

I'd love to hear your take on the beautiful new messages plastered on the Metro busses that call for freedom and statehood for Palestine..on second thought, nevermind.

And I wonder where you were 25+ years ago when my sister was running rumnage sales and the like in Seattle to help bring medicine and humanitarian relief to the Palestinians, and then went there to deliver it herself, on her own dime.
The Seattle Time felt it worthy of a front page photo essay..

And were you there with her and her husband in the Saudi desert holding hands with peace loving people from all around the world to try and stop any military conflict with Irag?
Maybe you have a comeback, maybe not.

But if you live in Seattle, or on C. Hill, you must feel truly out of place because your kind of intolerance doesn't work well here...Peace out guys
 

Melania Padilla (179)
Monday January 28, 2013, 10:53 am
Sick people....
 

bob m. (32)
Monday January 28, 2013, 11:45 am


As surely as satan sought to defile and have overlordship over the earth and Gods' creation by adding a lie to "do not eat of this fruit".. the great coverup artist liar has established a legacy upon the earth today in islam. his "prophet seeking to exalt himself as the temple in Jeruselem.and any other sign of other; is covered by the one that "covereth".. behind the veil of rebellion.. a man who sought to exalt himself even as the "final"...word of God...above the Lamb of God....who indded died (THIS MAN MOHAMMED);who did prophest his own death at the hand of a Jewess eating the forleg of lamb she prepared for him after he slew her beloved... proving his prophesy correct ..that he was a false prophet . Only believe on the Name of the son of God and you shall be saved.
 

Alexander Werner (53)
Monday January 28, 2013, 11:48 am
Ellen, ;"I'm sorry if some bad past experience has brought you to this mindset, but to infer that Muslims that do not renounce certain parts of what you say are fundamental tenents of their faith are uninformed at best is wrong...and sad -for you. "???

Ellen, of course it is sad, that Muslims that do not renounce certain parts of fundamental tenents of their faith that are racist, misogynistic or violent. However, it is sad not for Rob and Jay, or me, let's say.

It is sad to women, minorities or Moderate Muslims who are suffering at hands of those for whom this hateful ideology became the law of life.

It is sad to those, who gave you cash to deliver to Palestinian Arabs at a time when Saudi Arabs give them ONE HOUR PER YEAR WORTH of their oil production.

You went to help Palestinian Arabs, because if wasfashionable and safe. You knew that Israelis won't hurt you. That's why you went to help Palestinian Arabs, but not to Chechens suffering at Russian hands, or Russians, suffering from Chechen hands. You did not go to help Serbians or to help Albanians.

And to start with, Palestinian Arabs were and are World Best Paid refugees, with living standards much better off than Egypt and a half of African counries - all achieved on our dime.

Please read the article that Rob and Jay posted, and see which side are you on.
 

Suheyla C. (229)
Monday January 28, 2013, 1:22 pm
Kill the killers. Difference is not of them. We liberals sample area, away from you. Most of the Muslims aware of the side effects of religion. Ignorant people would be wrong to justify the increase. Civilized people of the country clergy in the Middle Ages did not forget that.Get rid of the side effects of religion and tolerance trained. Always listen to the sound of our conscience. = Conscience is the voice of the voice of God. Hate = hate, love = love. I love all people. Because, the work of all the people of my God. I hate apartheid. We all blood red.
 

Cousin It Addams (8)
Monday January 28, 2013, 2:49 pm
Aurea,
really, i'd like to see news articles from within the last 6 months where the following were reported:
1. a woman stoned for adultery by ANY other religion than mohammedanism
2. a person, man woman or child, beheaded for leaving ANY other religion besides mohammedanism
3. people harrassed or physically assaulted in their home country for doing simple things that are both legal and socially acceptable in that country, like walking a dog or not wearing a bag on their head(females), by ANY other religion except mohammedanism
4. people captured as slaves or "wives" and forced by beatings and threats of death to convert to ANY other religion but mohammedanism
5. any person that blew themselves and surrounding people/things up in the name of any other god except allah (pig-urine be upon him)

start by getting me links for those in proof of your theory that all religions are just as bad *right now* as mohammedanism. i don't like any of 'em, no use for them, but it's pretty obvious there's a clear front runner for modern-day atrocities and human rights violations. you want to see what "war on women" looks like? read "reliance of the traveller" and see what horrors are visited upon mohammedan women. and while the catholics have their priest scandal, why do imam scandals not come into the news? there are plenty of cases of kids being molested within mosques or madrassas, and "reliance" also tells the rules for divorcing girls who haven't hit puberty yet. sick. pedophiles must looooove mohammed's (pig-lard be upon him) example because he showed it was ok, even good, to do those things. but because the "prophet" (pig-dung be upon him) said it's ok, those victims aren't going to sue. criticizing his example will get you your head lopped off. if your lucky with a quick sword stroke, if not, slowly with a hunting knife. suing for damages is criticizing his example. if they could do it and live, there WOULD be an imam scandal.
 

Nancy Black (303)
Monday January 28, 2013, 9:26 pm
Noted, tweeted, shared, tweeted, shared, read, watched video. The picture on this articles tells it all. "Islam Will Dominate the World." These terrorists think UK belongs to them instead of the English. I am not a bigot, but if someone leaves a country because of unhappiness to go to another; they should be appreciative of being allowed to live in that country' they should accept the customs of that country instead of trying to enforce their own customs on the citizens of their adoptive country. Pattern is to take a little bit at a time, but eventually there will be war because the majority will not allow an entirely different culture to take over.
 

Vlasta M. (7)
Tuesday January 29, 2013, 8:22 am
Everybody should read a book The Infidel, by ex-Muslim women Ayaan Hirsi Ali, who escaped her family when he father married her off (without her consent) to some Muslims guy in Canada who was originally from Somalia, the country of Hirsi Ali's birth. her grandmother force a female genital mutilation on her and her sister where they were 6 and 5 years old respectively (removal of clitoris and outer vagina and sown up to be "poor for Islam and their husbands).. She also lived in Saudi Arabia and Kenya where he was indoctrinated into submission to male members of the family and terrorized by intense fear of punishment and hell for wanting to be her own person. Together with Theo Van Gough, she made a movie about her Muslim experiences called SUBMISSION, which got Theo van Gough murdered and a not attacked by a bloody knife on his chest that Ayaan Hirsi Ali will be next. She was also expelled from Holland because the government was caving into violent Muslims in their midst, but was later re-admitted.

Ayaan Hirsi Ali and others who speak the truth about vile teachings of Quir'an and Islam are vilified by the politically correct Westerners who believe taqiyya-Islamic principle of lying- of the Muslims in the West (http://www.islam-watch.org/Warner/Taqiyya-Islamic-Principle-Lying-for-Allah.htm).. Muslim Brotherhood of Barack Hussein Obama, which is financed by the Saudi and Iranian oil money are spreading this hatred of non-Muslims, and particularly Jews, in their mosques and other Islamic centers around the world. Obama gives them access to the White house and US taxpayers money for their war on the women in Egypt and F-16s for their renewed war with Israel. It is through Egypt that Hamas, a terrorist organization also indirectly financed by US and European gets rockets that now reach 1/3 of the territory of Israel and threaten Israeli population, which is comprised of 75% of Jews, 23% Muslims and 2% Christians and others, while Arab countries are Juden-frei and Christians are leaving in droves as Islamists are taking over those countries with the help of the likes of Barack Hussein Obama.
 

Karl Murphy (3)
Wednesday January 30, 2013, 9:58 am
Religious extremism is bad regardless of what religion it is. However, I am not seeing groups of Christians running around major cities threatening people with violence for not following their religion's code of conduct.
I don't care what their religion is about, all I know is that there are extremist Muslims that are harassing non Muslims in non Muslim lands, and it needs to stop. While every other culture/race/religion seem to assimilate into the societies they move to, Muslims force their ways upon their new countrymen. They seem to have forgotten 'When in Rome, do as the Romans do'. They cannot follow the most simple and basic rules of getting along with other people or groups. They are troublemakers, plain and simple. If they had such faith in God, they would spend their time in their mosques praying, not running around harassing people and filming it.
 

Berny p. (23)
Friday February 1, 2013, 8:52 am




Its not being a rascist to not want other people to take away your culture and your identity as a country.


BUT GOVERNMENT ALL OVER EUROPE HAVE FORGOTTEN THAT!
 

Michael M. (58)
Friday February 1, 2013, 9:00 am
Racism is a trait having nothing to do with religion. Both Jews and Arabs have been genetically found to be intimately related.

American Indians were not racist until the concept was brought to them by Euroamerican immigrants.

But I'm only here to comment on rascism. Those of us who do not have rasches, arise against the evil lumpyskins!
 

bob m. (32)
Friday February 1, 2013, 4:14 pm


American "indian" poop doesn't stink... go figure eh?.......what a crock.
 

bob m. (32)
Friday February 1, 2013, 4:46 pm


Well Cousin ... at least it can't be said that these zealots are spending all their time F'n the dog....
 

bob m. (32)
Friday February 1, 2013, 5:20 pm


Recently heard the term ..'sleeper virus".. this IS islam ..moderates and all.... but they forget .. "Arise oh sleeper" in the Bible... The Word of God .. has brought forth the Lamb and our salvation.. .. Indeed .."arise Oh sleepers.. and go forth .. For you have not been given a spirit of fear (islam)... but of love and of power and a Sound mind...... the Word in Christ shall put these lies to death and the deciever .. their father; shall be crushed under His heel... Come Lord jesus ..Son of God... Speaking the truth in love... For God is your justification and Father.
 

federico bortoletto (34)
Saturday February 2, 2013, 1:41 pm
Notato.
 

Aurea Walker (204)
Friday February 8, 2013, 3:06 pm
Cousin "it"
In response to your vaunting how we americans are SO SUPERIOR to Islam and their INSANE SHARIA LAWS! We women here in America which are considered a 1st world country are being put under similar types of CHRISTIAN SHARIA LAWS! You want examples, read a newspaper you will find plenty of them. But I will elucidate a few for you:

1. Rush limpdick going after a young woman for speaking out for access free or affordable birth control. Limpdick called her a promiscuous slut and a lot of other things! This from a supposedly educated man and limpdick did not do it one on one but over the airwaves to millions of his listeners.

2. The female state representative from New Mexico who is trying to pass a law that women who become pregnant from rape and get pregnant from the rape MUST have the child as medical/legal proof of the rape.

3. Steubenville, Ohio where a young woman was repeatedly raped and the rapists posted it on you tube were not prosecuted! Of course the mother of one of the rapist was the prosecutor on the case and another rapist is
the son of the sheriff doing the investigating of the case! By the way these POS football "jocks" called themselves "the rape crew". The victim and her family had to move out of town because they were harassed by the local townspeople.

3. How many LBGT youths have committed suicide because of the unrenting bullying they got and no one did anything to protect them. And yet the school principals and others in the school system did nothing.

4. Joe FUOTTUTO Arpaio and his backlog of over 400 rape cases of mostly Latina victims and nothing has been done about these cases.

5. Native American women who are raped by white men not living on the reservation who no legal recourse.

6. Again the VAMA - VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN ACT was not passed.

7. Killing a physician who performed late term abortions at his church doorstep by a pro-life lunatic.

8. The new law about fetal personhood.

Do not dare for one moment think that I in anyway shape or form support what the extremist Islamist are doing is in anyway acceptable, but our own CHRISTIAN WRONG/SHARIA LAW SUPPORTERS ARE NO DIFFERENT! And yes I against any form of overt violence to anyone, but as a woman I do feel and know we women are being marginalized by the WRONG, EVIL CHRISTIANS, MUSLIMS ET AL.

 

Tom Edgar (56)
Friday February 8, 2013, 7:17 pm
When you PROVE you are superior to followers of Islam, or any other religion, by exhibiting all the traits that show your superior intellect, attitudes, and behaviour is the way to behave then Islam will have no answer. So far not many here have shown any "Christian" forbearance, some, not many, and those seem to have all been atheists.
 
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