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Even Obama Can't Solve the Middle East Problem - and He'd Be Foolish to Try


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Tom
- 3437 days ago - telegraph.co.uk
Hopes are pinned on President-Elect Barack Obama to fix the Middle East crisis, but without strong leaders on either side, he doesn't stand a chance. The agony of Gaza, and of Israeli towns under attack from Palestinian rockets, drives home an uncomforta



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Dalia H (1280)
Wednesday February 18, 2009, 10:36 pm
Noted with thanks dearest Tom:)
Love, Black Dalia:)
 

Blue Bunting (855)
Wednesday February 18, 2009, 10:37 pm
If you can't do the whole thing, if you can only do a little ... DO THAT MUCH!
 

JULIE ANN Z (247)
Thursday February 19, 2009, 7:45 am
I dont believe Pres Obama is going to be able to stop this war. The Isreals and its nieghbors have been warring for years. Untill they work out their problems no one will be able to bring permanant peace to this area of the world. If we can help to solve the problems I think that is great, but it takes those countries to stop the wars and bring peace between those nations.
 

Past Member (0)
Thursday February 19, 2009, 9:42 am
Thank you Tom - good article, noted!

As long as Arabs choose Hamas, the peace has no chance, no matter of any negotiations.
 

Past Member (0)
Thursday February 19, 2009, 10:56 am
As long as terrorists are allowed to run Arab countries, there will be no peace, negotiations mean nothing to terrorists.
 

Sir Walk F (124)
Thursday February 19, 2009, 1:15 pm
I'm not so sure it's about "fixing" anything in the middle east beyond what American foreign policy has directly broken
 

Past Member (0)
Thursday February 19, 2009, 3:02 pm
Less we never forget --- when we hear the word war--- start looking for the money trail. All the grandstanding rhetoric and flag waving can never replace those of us who stand back look calmly at all around to find the money trail. Hitler in World War II became the biggest bandit the world had ever seen until the BUSH BUNCH came to power. I now it is hard to try to think back and remember all the losses we have had that hit our people, security and our money but when doing just think about all the grand thefts that got done. And the other issue about those two-posted wars we have been drug into--- fighting on someone else’s sovereign land brings in BIG BUCKS just like Afghanistan. And to that end those people get used to being on our big overfilled tits. Then if we decide to pull out more attacks against us to keep us around to keep draining us dry. For me and mine I say just walk away from both IRAQ and AFGHANSTAIN. If democracy is so keen for them let them take up THE CUASE like we did long ago. GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH
 

Patricia McCaskill (139)
Thursday February 19, 2009, 4:41 pm
Obama can only try. As others have commented this area has been warring since time immemorial. It is a 'way of life'. I have questions regarding our babying Israel all these years. It is time yes, to get out of Iraq and Afghanistan, also. My heart just breaks for innocent civilians who just want to live the best lives they can, without being pawns for terrorists on both sides.
 

Aletta Kraan (146)
Thursday February 19, 2009, 7:04 pm
Noted , thanks !!!
 

Darlene K (356)
Thursday February 19, 2009, 7:55 pm
The United States arms Israel, and that is something I would be shocked to see President Obama change.
 

John Azubuike (1)
Friday February 20, 2009, 1:20 am
Dar you are very wrong to conclude that the US arms Israel. All Israel ever wanted is to have a life of their own. They wanted Peace and they can't get it from their rather jealous neighbours. Israel wanted free and fair negotiation but the Hamas and Hisbollah wanted is war and war they are getting. On the issue of who is arming who - I think Dar should be reminded that the whole of Arab nations are solidly behind Hamas and Hisbollah. I am not an advocate of violence but I am saying let the voice of reasoning prevail. Let the the two nation dialogue. America can only chart the way forward but actual peace deal will come from the people.
 

Simon Wood (207)
Friday February 20, 2009, 5:28 am
Obama could easily solve the Middle East problem. But he doesn't want to, because he is working for the U.S. capitalist class, for U.S. capitalism, just like every other U.S. president has done.

(Why? I don't know Obama's motivations, but I do know this much: the media owned by the capitalist class only promotes capitalist politicians, and most of Obama's camapaign contributions came from the capitalist class, and because the capitalist class uses their huge economic power to pressure Obama - e.g. the threat of relocating factories to other countries.)

Therefore, Obama will continue to support the colony called "Israel" in its mass-murder and land-theft campaigns against the Indigenous people of the Middle East (e.g. continuing the U.S. government's annual U.S.$3-4 billion military aid to Israel) - for U.S. capitalist class interests, e.g. to be sure of a staunch ally in the oil-rich Middle East.

And Obama will continue to maintain U.S. military bases and tens of thousands of U.S. imperialist troops and mercenaries in Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan and Iraq, to continue to terrorise the Indigenous people into submission, to ensure U.S. puppet governments remain in power, and to ensure control of their oil and oil pipelines, and to ensure that U.S. arms corporations and oil corporations can profit from the local people's oil wealth.

And Obama will continue to prop up other authoritarian, brutal and corrupt regimes in the Middle East (e.g. by giving them arms, and selling them arms), such as Egypt and Jordan - to ensure that U.S. arms corporations and oil corporations can profit from the local people's oil wealth.

We can change the situation by building a mass movement, like the mass movements that we built to end the Vietnam War, and to end apartheid in South Africa.
 

Simon Wood (207)
Friday February 20, 2009, 5:32 am
John wrote: "Dar you are very wrong to conclude that the US arms Israel."

The U.S.A. gives Israel U.S.$3-4 billion military aid each year. How do you think Israel got F-16 warplanes and Apache helicopter gunships? They are made in the U.S.A., didn't you know? And the U.S.A. does not deny giving them to Israel for free! So why do YOU deny it???
 

Simon Wood (207)
Friday February 20, 2009, 5:46 am
John wrote: "They wanted Peace and they can't get it from their rather jealous neighbours."

Modern Israel is a colonial state, founded by peoplefrom Europe and North America in 1948, on the land of PALESTINE. Since it was founded, Israel used military force to kill more than 70,000 people (its opponents - the Indigenous people of the Middle East - only killed about 7,000 people), and that violence was military terrorism, which forced huge numbers of the Indigenous people to flee, as refugees, from their homes in what is now called "Israel". There are now about 4 million refugees, which Israel is refusing to allow to return to ther own homes in inside "Israel"!!!

E.g. 80% of the people living in Gaza are refugees who Israel expelled from their homes in what is now called "Israel".

As for peace, Israel has been acting as a colony since it was founded: using aggression - genocidal violence - to steal land and expand its borders. Peace will only be possible when Israel ends that policy. The Indigenous people of the Middle East have been resisting Israeli military terrorist aggression, and resisting Israeli oppression of Palestinian, Lebanese and Syrian peoples in the land that Israel has occupied. Plus some Indigenous people have been fighting to get back their land which was stolen by Israel.

Peace will come when Israel stops its aggressive, expansionist, genocidal, apartheid policies, and when Israel allows the people who it is currently oppressing to have self-determination, and when Israel allows the millions of Palestinian refugees to return to their homes and lands in what is now called "Israel".

Only Israel (and its superpower backer, the USA) stand in the way of a 2-state solution. Hamas and the rest of the world agree to the 2-state solution.
 

Marion Y (322)
Friday February 20, 2009, 9:02 am
The US can do alot to stop this war by not funding it. No money, no war machine.

Thanks Tom.
 

Past Member (0)
Friday February 20, 2009, 10:55 am
Dar, US arms Israel, but it gets control where Israel sells his staff - plenty of it! US forced Israel to cancel huge deal with China some time ago and to lose $$ billions on that.

If Obama cuts the link, he will have no control.
 

Darlene K (356)
Friday February 20, 2009, 3:07 pm
Simon, bless your heart and thank you for giving the detail of facts to bring clarity to my lil comment. I am trying to not let my ego or mind manipulate me with the many different feelings that challenge my soul. I need to meditate longer, these days..heh.

John.., I appreciate your opinion, but I strongly feel that Israel needs to honor the ORIGINAL borders (which the palestines never accepted, but Israel was allowed the recognition anyways). If the entire Arab nations support a "fair" 2-state solution and many others in the world..., I can only make guesses of why Israel continues to dismiss it. I am not a big fan of nationalism, but I do understand the economical, financial, and social problems that evolve from a culture of people who don't have a homeland, and are subject to another's culture's beliefs and policies. I consider myself an American, only because I have paid taxes for decades to help support the American broken systems. I don't support any KILLING or WAR. I do hope both the people of Israel and the Palestines can have what many other nation or states of people have...

Marion I agree 1000%.

Sashko...., I really do understand your words, and you are correct. The U.S. will compromise in what manner they feel helps the "powers that be" agenda. I can assure you, that the U.S. is a target more than it ever has been, by the extremists or terrorists. This will come to our shores. No matter what happens, in front of our eyes, the U.S., China, Israel, and Russia have a greater agenda, and North Korea is not happy that they aren't more a part of the bigger "game." I wouldn't begin to assume what exactly motivates this game, because I suspect their are several reasons.

Maybe President Obama shouldn't have any control. This strife has sent a huge negative ripple out into the global community, and this needs global action. China can make deadly nuclear strikes against us, but they won't because of the science, technology, spacewar and dark-ops projects, relationship they have with the U.S., along with Russia and Israel.

If humanity can't get this right, again....Then maybe the "end of times" should come to this planet, so civilization can start over, and maybe get it right, the next time. Just my lil ole opinion. May all the families who have lost loved ones in this physical and materialistic world, feel their angels love to soothe their grief....much love to all...namaste
 

John Azubuike (1)
Saturday February 21, 2009, 3:58 am
This forum is actually living to its billing. 'Am much more educated more than ever on this particular hot issue. Thanks Simon for going to the archives to unearth some hidden facts but subject to serious debate. However, Simon you never gave any insight to the massive support the terrorists in Palestine are daily getting from the Arab world through money laundering and arms through underground tunnels and through boarders of Syria, Egypt and Lebanon. The "game" like Dar did mention is a difficult one to unravel. The truth is that we live in age where dominance is the order of the day just like in the animal kingdom. Verily we can never have a peaceful world...no matter how hard we try. If Obama and Clinton can bring peace to that region. Many more trouble spots and flashpoints abound that we will be more difficult to handle. The bottom line is that we live in an age where all the super powers are in context of who control the earth resources that are getting depleted by the day. These contexts will magnify in the years to come, in as much as the world population is growing exponentially and the resources getting leaner. Maybe the "end time" is here! Basically the quest for more knowledge is leading the whole world astray, in a way science is both evil and good. Israel and the Palestine are just exhibiting the animalistic tendencies in human and the super powers manipulations. Arms are product of war and conquest so whichever way we look at it, the conflicts around the world is about domination and survival. If Israel is battling to dominate their Arab neighbours, the Arabs on the other hand are battling to survive. Nothing is impossible, change is necessary, Israel and Palestine deserve to live in harmony, war does little to bring about peace. The world is waiting to see what impact Obama can bring to that region. I wish to see a day the Muslim world will embrace the Israelis as their friend. I wish to see the end to the conflict in that axis. Something good can really come out the two nations, if only they can allow peace to reign. In one world we all brothers and sisters – just that our tongue and colour differs. Simon thanks for your piece and for all other contributors, I say to you lets continue with our actions. We are actually making the desired impact. When peace comes then we can save the environment!
 

Kathy W (299)
Sunday February 22, 2009, 8:33 pm
Thank you Tom.
 

Cynthia Davis (340)
Monday February 23, 2009, 9:46 am
If you give up on peace because you think it must fail, what happens next?
 
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