Saturday August 29, 2009, 2:19 pm
I hope the advocates win. This so-called "sport" is way too cruel and needs to stop.
Thanks Tom for sharing.

Saturday August 29, 2009, 3:19 pm
Will be praying for these animals...this is truly terrible!!!

Saturday August 29, 2009, 3:20 pm
Thank you Tom. Fingers crossed.

Saturday August 29, 2009, 3:38 pm
I'm keeping my fingers, toes, and the paws around here crossed!
Let hope it goes through.
Tx Tom xx

Saturday August 29, 2009, 5:32 pm
Ditto Michelle this time, Tom xx

Saturday August 29, 2009, 10:42 pm
I'm sending positive thought waves to the attorneys for Earthjustice. WIN! WIN! WIN!

Saturday August 29, 2009, 11:12 pm
Thank you Tom...Thank you for getting the news out.
I am ashamed to love Idaho, and lived in the Panhandle for many years, and to have to fight this human garbage Otter, Kempthorne and all the natiwolf organizations since 1995 when the wolves were first introduced.
These SOB's have been the soul force of the battle against the wolve in Idaho alone. Theya re old school, good ole boy network that has been backed by the Farmers Bureau and all anti wolf group in the region. I have sat at many meeting in the years from 1996 until 2001 when we moved to Alaska. Thes men are the first to spread the misinformation, and stir the hate against these wonderful animals.
Idah politicans are in the same cahoots with Alaska's Palin and they all gather to rant about the wolf destroying their rights northwest generational cattle that graze upon "PUBLIC LANDS".
They are a bunch of hate, and full of determination to eliminating the wolves from the world forever.
Please EarthJustice....we have to WIN this one now!

Sunday August 30, 2009, 12:30 am
Idaho? How about Alaska? Montana? Wyoming? Stop the slaughter of these beautiful animals. No wolves, no balance in nature. Cattle are NOT part of nature. Rednecks! The judge included!

Sunday August 30, 2009, 11:24 am
I will keep my fingers crossed.

Sunday August 30, 2009, 12:37 pm
Thank you Tom.

Sunday August 30, 2009, 1:33 pm
I believe WE CAN ALL SEE WHO PAID THE BIG MONEY-and TO WHOM IT MAY HAVE BEEN PAID!!!This looks like the JUDGE/S MAY BE IN SOMEONES' POCKET....
CONFLICT OF INTEREST.....I bet THIS JUDGE either HAS A FARM OR IS A HUNTER-Maybe BOTH...And to ANN D......Yes-We are at WAR with these killers on MANY FRONTS.......

Sunday August 30, 2009, 2:18 pm
70,000 wolf hunting permits with a crazed wolf killer holding it,
1,000 total wolves in state at best guess,
220 total allowed wolf kills, you betcha!
wolves remaining after their own holocaust, ZERO!
Humans (?) disgusting.

Yeah, Right! and when will it be known that only 220 wolves have been slaughtered? After all the wolves in the state are dead, along with any dogs the look similar to wolves in size and shape. Better watch out for your pets, especially huskies and malamutes, German shepherds, etc...

And who is going to tell all of these crazed wolf killers that the limit has been reached? No one, that's who. Then when all the wolves are killed, which if this hunt goes through is exactly what will happen, some idiot will say they didn't think about how and when to tell all the others who bought wolf killing permits then limit was reached. Bet it was a bunch of Republicans who thought up this horrendous blunder too.

Let's hope this judge has some common sense and sees the outcome before it plays out and cancels this unsupervised hunt which will lead back to the extinction of wolves all over again.

Sunday August 30, 2009, 5:15 pm
Deborah,
I absolutely agree with you!
I pray to the spirits above that the judge making the decision is NOT in the freaking "good ole boy network".
If it is.....the wolves don;t stand a chance.
The Idaho boys club have had control in government in Idaho for far too long. They all nedd to be given the boot for anyone to get justice for wild life.

Sunday August 30, 2009, 6:13 pm
hope they do some thig about it we need to save them

Sunday August 30, 2009, 8:56 pm
welcome to idaho,the slaughter state? and i wont go into what kind of images the name "butch otter" conjures up!! why do people have this inborn?inbred urge to kill,kill,kill,and destroy the beauty Mother Nature gives to us ? what harm are they causing?hell i see the overgrazing by ranchers on state lands that belong to the people and they get it for free as causing more harm than the wolf ever did!of course the deer and elk hunters will love this! cause by taking down the preditor population the grass eaters grow and then you have a reason to slaughter them also !! oops,sorry,then it's a cull to help them stop starving to death .pretty sneakie .stop it people ! if you want to kill that bad,then take a knife and do it like a man!! idaho?man? isn't that kind of an oxymorn? kinda heavy on the morn

Sunday August 30, 2009, 9:03 pm
that should have been moron.sorry bout the spelling ,i have a tendancy to get a lil worked on these issues! thanks Tom!

Sunday August 30, 2009, 9:32 pm
You cannot currently send a star to David because you have done so within the last week
Totally with you, David, and thank you, Tom, for keeping us informed!
Deborah L: So you really think that there are no Democrats that hunt? That's ridiculous!

Monday August 31, 2009, 2:26 am
thanks tom i'l say a prayer

Monday August 31, 2009, 6:06 am
Thannnx... let them who have ears hear what the people are saying... no to killing of innocent wolves...

Monday August 31, 2009, 12:03 pm
Looks like the chior needs a reality check. Wolves were not designed or equipped to take down and kill elk naturally. If they stuck to deer and small varmits it would be one thing but they spend hours upon hours trying to take down an elk or moose the most inhumane kill you will ever witness. A bullet takes a elk down and it is dead within minutes and a family of 5 is fed for a year. Humans are part of nature hence the term human nature so the argument of letting nature take care of itself just dosent work and never will. Fact of the matter is the wolves are here and they were transplanted here bigger and stronger than the native wolf of this area so now they have to be managed along with all the other species of animals in Idaho. If this hunt is blocked it will be bad for wolves because it will cause more anger and you will find even more illegal kills than has already happened. 220 will be the least of your worries.

Monday August 31, 2009, 8:09 pm
Steve H.
As you are a new member here at Care 2 Network as of the 30th of this month...perhaps you ought to educate yourself as to what your commenting about, and the truth.
As a Native American, a native growing up inWashington...eatern that is, and in Idaho & Montana I am far more informed than you think you are...,And as a lover of wlid life...wolves especially, your barking up the wrong tree with your misinformation.
Check out the truth about wolves. They have hunted far more larger territory and species than you could imagine, yet be the most selective species on the planet. You are not as infromed as you would like to think.

You are poorly knowledgeable about wolves, and it would be far better if you were to return to your antiwolf buddies. You would be far suited to be in their misinformative groups than you would be here.
We are not idiots. Go be more productive elsewhere.

Tuesday September 1, 2009, 8:18 am
I think that the thing is these idoits, are talking about sports, hunting, they are not killing the wolves to protected themselves, but to protected to all mighty great elk the big one, the one that says I more macho than you, because I used a gun against nature, ha. The hunters for some reason think the wolves are going to take their prize, they do not know wolves, they take the old the sick, the very young that are sick, sometimes I sure they do cause some problems, What I want to know is who does not cause problems somethimes? Does that mean we shoot and kill everything that causes a problem, if so I doubt there would be a teenager alife..... Wolves do not hate us why do men (I have noticed its more man than woman except for the killer Palin) hate them so bad? Men who know who they are and are comfortale with being able to show an emotion, do not hate wolves. I think we are as bad as the Japanese are about whales only we targert wolves. IT NEEDS TO STOP WHATEVER IT TAKES IT NEEDS TO STOP, I WISH I LIVED CLOSE ENOUGH I WOULD JUST LOVE TO RIDE THROUGH THE WOODS PLAYING MY MUSIC AS LOUD AS I COULD AND MAKE ALL THE NOISE I COULD TO DISCOURAGE HUNTING. THEY WOULD PROBABLY KILL ME....As far as Otter goes he is an embrassing as sara palin, maybe that why she at one time was going to move there or though about it. I hope she rots in hell along with mr otter.

Friday September 4, 2009, 8:36 pm
I have been off fighting for the Wild Mustangs and Burros and actually thought the wolf issue was settled. Now we have people in Idaho that feel the wolf is a threat. A threat to whom?? A steer that is grazing for a cost of $1.16 per year on public lands where ranchers overgraze and completely devoid the lands of their natural landscape. A elk that a hunter wants to mount the head so he can be proud of killing a innocent animal. Not all hunters hunt for the meat as they just want the racks and one can attest to this by going to any lodge or cabin in Idaho. How about eating the steers you are so proudly defending. A wolf is nature's predator to keep elk, moose and deer herds down and man is not.

A wolf hunts to feed the pack and not like man who kills for fun. How can anyone come up with 70,000 permits for 220 wolves? Is this overkill or the greed of some backward minded people? People of Idaho should feel ashamed to even be affiliated with this complete idiotic scheme to rid the wolf from the state.

If the wolf is over populated than relocate not kill. And, for the ones who do support this plan remember what you dish out has a way of coming back at you, threefold, so when the disease from the elk, moose and deer spread to your cattle because you destroy the one predator that can keep herds down we at Care2 do not want to hear your cries for help.

Friday September 4, 2009, 10:05 pm
Peter...
You are a person that are more informed than most, and for that I am most grateful. These crazy, lazy self serving sob's have no care nor concern but for their own existence. They have been getting away with using the system against the environment, and never care about any consequence except if they are going to get something for nothing at the taxpayers expense.

"Big Mistake in the White Clouds costs Alpha Male
Judas Wolf terminated too
Mountain Express Story added on April 27 and May 10, plus more"
http://www.forwolves.org/ralph/whiteclouds-control2.htm

They have been using and abusing public land for generations have the state of Idaho & Montana, Wyoming, Colorado, Texas and New Mexico for so long that if they actually had to change their lives to earn an honest living without raping the land and water and wildlife they would fade into nothing or seriously hurt innocent humans and wildlife at any cost.
If you are familiar with Idfaho thenyou are familiar with Curt Hurless who killed innocent wolves, lied about it, collected money for cattle that were never killed by the wolves but his own dogs, and eventually got caught and served federal prison time. He came around full circle and now is a suppoter of the wolves in Idaho. People do change, and this was a blessing I thought never would happen...but it did.

13 years on, wolves [in Idaho] have changed friends and foes alike
http://wolves.wordpress.com/2008/01/27/13-years-on-wolves-in-idaho-have-changed-friends-and-foes-alike/

But alas..Butch Otter is an idiot, and a hunter with no conscience whatsoever. If he really is a hunter..or a political pundit with the good old boys club.

Saturday September 5, 2009, 4:54 am
i've been kept up to date on this and you can too, through
http://www.defenders.org/
- they're an amazing organization i've supported for over 2 decades.

with your support of this organization and writing those government officials, ie, the governor, etc, we can change this antiquated thinking, but we must act now.

Saturday September 5, 2009, 10:34 pm
As long as the Cattleman's Association and their lobbyists pour money into political positions there will always be problems for wolves, wild mustangs and burros in the western United States. Along with mining our land is being stripped of all its valuable assets and our government is doing nothing about this. Most all the problems are occurring on public lands within all the states that seem to relate to wolves or horses and burros. The government leases the open lands to cattlemen to graze their cattle (and very cheaply at that) while most ranches today are corporate and are no longer family or singled owned. The factor behind all this leads to that five letter word=GREED. Its really not the wolf or wild mustang or the burro it is all about money and this is what we are fighting. Oh I seem to have forgotten the rumor spreaders that wolf eat children and will attack any human they see (the good ole boys). The wolf and horse were here before the settlers moved west but modern man feared the wolf and once the railroads and cattle ranches were built the horse was no longer needed. Today man wants to rid anything that builds a roadblock to them making money so instead of relocating the wolf, horse and burros man's way of thinking is to destroy them.

Issuing the amount of permits they did to rid Idaho of 220 wolves leads me to believe it is not 220 but them wanting to eliminate all wolves to include any ones pet that looks like a wolf. If this judge does not see something wrong with this than he must be one of the ones the lobbyists are akin to. Or he has turned a blind eye to the plight of wildlife in this country and not just the wolf.

Along with hunting licenses in any state there should also be "after the kill you must prove you are actually eating the meat which you stated was to provide for your family" or face a huge fine. Lets see how fast cattle ranchers want to use public lands for grazing if the government starts charging per acre used and make ranchers replenish the land they use. In the west with the drought going on land cannot replenish and becomes a dry arid wasteland after cattle graze. What is funny cattle ranchers blame it on the Wild Mustang and Burro when there are approximately 1 horse per 10,000 cattle. If our government cannot see through this than we elected the fools that be.

If our elected cannot see this than we all must unite and come the next elections replace all whether it be state or federal government.

Sunday September 6, 2009, 9:51 pm
While I applaud Defense.org I find that my working alone is better for me and my contacts. I am involved with the Wild Mustangs and Burros. Our main blocking stone is not money but the idiotic BLM and Department of Interior. They are falling back on old laws back when the Wild Mustang and Burros became a sort of protective species and were relocated to public lands. Now the BLM states because of this law we cannot relocate them back to the same lands noted in the law.

As far as protecting wolves goes the money from the Cattleman's Association along with their lobbyists pouring money into political coiffures hurts every and all agendas we are supporting. It is getting at the elected that take this money where the agenda should be focused upon and getting the attention of the public. We cannot depend on the media because the media sides with the money and the story making even if it is lies.

We can fight in courts of law until we turn blue but until we change the minds of the elected political bureaucracy they will continue to throw roadblocks in every action we take until eventually we run out of money or every wolf in the US is slain. We need to get the truth out about wolves and how they actually help nature's balance of all wildlife. If there are an abundance of wolves in one area relocate them to another. Some of the northern midwest states have accomplished this. We all have to remember this the Cattleman's Association along with the Agricultural Association have almost unlimited funds and with this money can continue spreading the lies and propaganda to the media which all read. People believe what they see on the media and what is disappointing is some know it is lies but still believe it.

Getting congress and the senate to pass laws is almost moot in today's society as is evident with the Wild Mustangs and Burros. A simple one paragraph change can save thousands of horses and burros but with the lobbyists feeding over 1/2 of the political bureau it is impossible.

This is not just about wolves it is about all wildlife within the United States. Cattlemen are given a priority when it comes to public lands and the hell with any other creature in their way. What is sorry is both the BLM and Department of the Interior side with them and turn a blind eye to the plight of wolves, wild mustangs and burros. It is just not the wildlife either as they are depleting the lands that support wildlife by overgrazing or lumbering to where there are nothing left. Not to forget mining that totally strip the land. When was the last time anyone saw a mining request to mine land turned down by the Department of the Interior?

It takes a lot more than an organization petitioning with signatures as it takes individuals emailing their representatives with strong statements stating your involvement also concerns your being elected next election time. Most people who sign a petition in 30 days do not even remember signing it while people submitting emails eventually receive a reply even if it is a formed type of reply which does remind them they sent the email and this does create a group that does care.

Also, fighting others with smear tactics does not always work either. One false or doctored picture or article can do more harm then not submitting it in the first place. I will not state which organization but I have seen pictures where the content wording was changed so drastically upon checking the entire article against other articles it was a complete lie to what really appeared in the picture. And yes, this was about aerial shooting of wolves in Alaska. Upon computer forensics of even the picture one could see if was completely altered to support what was stated in the article and while I support the wolf I am completely against creating FUD that belittles our cause to protect the wolf. This causes us more harm and people do see this specially the media. This works both ways as well as the other side uses the same lies and pictures.