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Voting Is a Moral and Spiritual Act -Starhawk

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I don't often agree with the Pope. But when he recently characterized voting as "a moral act with spiritual consequences", I have to agree with him--although I could hardly disagree more with his vision of morality.

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Beverly L (72)
Tuesday November 2, 2010, 6:49 am
Wow, love that last line ~ "Hope is something that must be eternally renewed." I agree with Starhawk ~ this is our chance, every one of us, to lend our voices and have some say!

Jae A (316)
Tuesday November 2, 2010, 8:59 am
When the government is more than just in words as being a Democracy our votes are what give people hope.When it is just a 'word' then the votes are for show only in order to give something to hold onto as hope,without any real chance of their hopes coming from within their own borders. Outside help..called wars can sometimes help the nations where voting is just symbolic. That type is what I feel the U.S. will soon be if not already. Corporate rule doesn't allow for votes of/from the people to count,just counted, then throw away. Dictatorships,Fascist,Communist,etc. have all practiced that form of governing of counting votes that will never count. ..are we to become the same in America..Looking more and more like it everyday to many of us. However..we all do still have hope, even if our votes are simply counted as we haven't been there done that before. It might take a few years for it to sink into peoples heads as to the majority. I know, not a lot of 'upper' positive in this post but it comes from not just my mind but from my spirit/soul..aka..heart.

Past Member (0)
Tuesday November 2, 2010, 10:30 am
"Here's how my moral compass is set:
I believe lying and hate-mongering are immoral.
I believe distorting the truth to protect one's own interests is wrong.
I believe exploiting other people for one's own benefit is immoral.
I believe that profiting from the destruction of nature is utterly, stupidly and short-sightedly wrong."

I could not agree more with this quote. Catholics are only a cult, divided from the Coptc Church in the 'Byzantine Split'. Coptics smoke herb, Catholics drink alcohol. It's Coptic Time... Back to reality.

Michael Carney (217)
Tuesday November 2, 2010, 12:48 pm
Well, this Catholic, doesn't drink alcohol, as for herb, well, pass me that pipe there, will ya? lol

Ginger Strivelli (20)
Tuesday November 2, 2010, 2:13 pm
Voting should have been CARE2's daily action today I was disappointed to see it was some dog story not voting.

Katrianne W (56)
Tuesday November 2, 2010, 4:34 pm
Wasn't that a powerful message Beverly? I knew I had to share it when I read it last night. I absolutely agree with you Empress, Care2 really dropped the ball not make todays daily action to vote.

Past Member (0)
Wednesday November 3, 2010, 3:04 pm
We all need to keep democracy alive and the only way to do that is to vote, no matter who or what you believe in. Thank goodness we all agree on something.

Nancy Anderson (21)
Wednesday November 3, 2010, 4:33 pm
I agree that "voting is a moral act with spiritual consequences". However, my act of voting is based upon my morality and spirituality and NOT organized religion or corporations or political parties.

Thomas H (37)
Thursday November 4, 2010, 7:32 am
I struggle with voting when the outcome is not up to my vote at all, rather it is whom the Corporatocracy wishes to do their bidding. After voting for Obama and atching the same criminal and traitorous Bush policies followed; after watching Pelosi and Obama refuse to consider Universal Health Care for All, just like the CONgress, the White House and the activist SCOTUS enjoy, and that which I voted for in the first place; after watching Pelosi, Reid and Obama REFUSE to enact JUSTICE with a corrupt and criminal Republican administration and its rubber stamp Corporate lackies in the CONgress; after watching Obama escalate the illegal and Corporate war in Afghanistan; after the bail outs of the Corporations which wrecked this obsolete economy; and now, after seeing my home state flip entirely to the disastrous right; how was my vote counted? What sort of Democracy am I in which listens ONLY to powerful Corporate Profit$ flowing into the chosen party's coffers and NOT to the people?

No, I doubt seriously that I will waste any more time battling the ONLY powers-that-be, the Corporatocracy, at the polling stations. "Government" works solely for their profit$, not the People. Just look what Obama signed regarding health care reform: uninsured people, many because the Corporatocracy has single-handedly taken their jobs from them, now have to scrape up non-existent money to PAY the CORPORATE INSURANCE INDUSTRY to get any form of health insurance, a BASIC human right. I will be researching Rainforest Action Network and Green Peace for the first time. I will continue to expose the Corporatocracy for what it is, even though it will be received only by thinking people, not the overwhelming populace of dunderheads who get their "news" via the Corporatocracy vile propaganda itself. I will continue to implore people to investigate the Zeitgeist Movement for an example of what can be realized in the future. Thanks to the set back of illusory Democracy at the hands of the SCOTUS and its Masters, it will not be in my lifetime that true independence from our Corporate Masters will be realized. That's OK. I have been, and always will be, a subject of Amerikan Plutocracy and Global Corporatocracy.

But what do I tell my daughter in Alabama, the bastion of Republican, uneducated, hip-shot, Corporate Media-fed imbeciles, and who ASPIRE to be such? "Vote for progressives in Alabama and you won't be disappointed"? Pshaw. It will be better to tell her the Truth. I'll tell her how to grow her own food. Tell her to watch her back because she has been labeled by fanatical, ignorant Teabaggers as the daughter of a "Liberal". Tell her that Democracy is a lie wrapped in a piece of cloth usurped and desecrated by the "patriots" that surround her on all sides. Tell here that there are people out there ho agree with her acts of kindness and calmness, but they're too busy watching the Corporate media to assist her in collective survival.

Voting is a right. However, I do not sense any feeling or reason in declaring it a spiritual act or a moral act. All that plays off superstition and scientific illiteracy. Where does it get you in the long run? Voting is not activism. Voting doesn't affect the un-elected few who are in sole possession of the entire planet's monetary wealth and environmental policies. THAT is what has to be changed. THAT is what must be acted upon, not a handful of policy bots directed by the real, corrupt and amoral Powers.

Susan Stebbins (11)
Thursday November 4, 2010, 1:04 pm
As always, Starhawk is a voice for us Pagans who have too small a role in the public eye to have one. She again proves her wisdom. Blessed Be )O(

Lin Penrose (92)
Thursday November 4, 2010, 2:16 pm
I would like to know just when the Catholic Church started to let people (outside of the dio-political/religous groups) vote? Was it during the Crusades or when the "Church" was putting people to the stakes & burning & torturing them? Maybe later when the "Church" quietly "voted" & acted against the "Jewish" during the WW1 & 2. How about asking women & children to vote about the lifestyles the "Church" mandates for them & their current & future lives? There are many other opportunities in the history of the "Church" to let people vote. I admire Starhawk & the Spiritualism she represents, but find that agreeing with one of the Earth's nastier concepts of social structure, upsetting. Voting, should be the individual's commonsense & logic at work, with concepts of long term consequenses, to the best of each persons ability, and the freedoms to do so.

John Williams (36)
Thursday November 4, 2010, 6:44 pm
I vote for the overall good I believe can be accomplished by the progressives. Alas I also believe the overall good that can be accomplished is limited by the Elites and corporations no matter who is in power. I am what some call a cafeteria Catholic. Being gay that is the only way to believe I am good. Pick and choose which parts of the faith I believe.
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