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Arundhati Roy: "The People Who Created the Crisis Will Not Be the Ones That Come Up With a Solution"


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Michael
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"I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength and bid defiance to the laws of our country."-Thomas Jefferson 1812



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Michael Dewey (1039)
Saturday December 3, 2011, 6:31 am
"I see in in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country. As a result of the war, corporations have been enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endevour to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until all wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the republic is destroyed.
I feel at this moment more anxiety for the safety of my country than ever before, even in the midst ot war."-Abraham Lincoln 1864
 

Anne F. (17)
Saturday December 3, 2011, 5:32 pm
Build community - help your neighbor, share all you can
 

Angelica C. (84)
Sunday December 4, 2011, 6:12 am
That first sentence - perfect.
 

Abdessalam Diab (153)
Sunday December 4, 2011, 6:21 am
All these trillions of dollars spent on war while so millions in USA and other countries are starving is a shame.To where is war leading humanity?
 

Diane Stollger (40)
Sunday December 4, 2011, 6:26 am
That quote could have been said yesterday. This country has become a crazy system of capitalism run amok. I am sickened by the mess we are in. Thank you Micheal.
 

Marg W. (61)
Sunday December 4, 2011, 6:36 am
Thank you Micheal. This applies to Canada as well. Peace!
 

Debbie Johnson (116)
Sunday December 4, 2011, 6:59 am
I love that quote from Jefferson. Oh, to have a President like him again. Those days, though, I fear, are long gone...
 

Debbie Johnson (116)
Sunday December 4, 2011, 7:01 am
Still, though, it proves that even then they could forsee this happening....and it's a crying shame it's come to this...
 

monka blanke (74)
Sunday December 4, 2011, 7:24 am
Good quote.
 

Terry King (108)
Sunday December 4, 2011, 7:28 am
An excellent read although I don't agree that we have a "failure of imagination" in this country... More a failure of implementation.
 

Craig Pittman (45)
Sunday December 4, 2011, 7:34 am
There are powerful and articulate voices being raised (both past and present) to help define the movement to change our society by making it inclusive and equitable.
Excellent story. Thanks Michael.
 

Penny C. (79)
Sunday December 4, 2011, 7:34 am
Noted,thank you Michael.
 

Jonjon Hoy (146)
Sunday December 4, 2011, 7:37 am
Liclon and Jefferson hit the nail on the head. The headline of this post strongly spoke for itself. What happened then is happening now. It's all about money power and not We The People. In God We Trust isn't about MONEY and Power. Congress has taken GREED as their POWER.
 

wolfNoFwdsPls a. (135)
Sunday December 4, 2011, 7:39 am
d'accord, d'accord! D'ACCORD !
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Our problem IS civil obedience (and accommodativeness, cowardice, submissiveness ..) !
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#occupy Pentagon, not AfghanIraq
#occupy Wst., not Palestine
... and let's not forget: " Asking for a bigger piece of the pie of the planet being murdered is a wee bit insufficient... We always need to recognize that we live on *stolen* land,... stolen [actually rather: (brutally)robbed] not only from indigenous people but also from the non-humans. " (Derrick Jensen)

 

lee e. (114)
Sunday December 4, 2011, 7:39 am
Thanks so much for the read and the quote - I happened to go into the first response as well, where 20 items are listed that the occupy movement upholds - also worth reading! I often make the mistake of viewing movements such as this one as a purely "national", when the world is so much smaller and the "ripple" effects of it are felt everywhere, with international involvement and results - it staggers the imagination, and makes the responsibility so much more exacting that we get it right!
 

. (0)
Sunday December 4, 2011, 7:48 am
Thank you Michael , quotes right on target!
 

Michael Dewey (1039)
Sunday December 4, 2011, 8:15 am
From reading the 1890s Book ''The Coming Battle.'' Its clear that the banking money power took over from the start.
 

Myraida Diaz (127)
Sunday December 4, 2011, 8:26 am
Very good Michael . Thank You!
 

Richard Zane Smith (86)
Sunday December 4, 2011, 8:26 am
WOW, Arundhati Roy has a wonderful bigger picture.

what she says about words is so true. English is a "NOUN" based language.
once the word "USA Democracy" is hollowed out, and redefined to mean 'occupy the world until every country serves the interests of United States and imitates the politics of United States' you have a word that means exactly the opposite of what it once meant. its a sham still wearing the smiley face.

Imagination is what is needed to recognize this paradigm shift, this redefinition of words,process.
And its needed to come up with alternate ways of solving problems than those that exist today.

 

Carol H. (229)
Sunday December 4, 2011, 8:36 am
noted, thank you Michael
 

Caitlin G. (29)
Sunday December 4, 2011, 8:41 am
Signed and noted, thank you for sharing this! :)
 

Caitlin G. (29)
Sunday December 4, 2011, 8:42 am
Well, not really "signed," but commented -- sorry, got the two confused! >_
 

William Y. (54)
Sunday December 4, 2011, 8:42 am
You nailed it, Michael
 

Susanne R. (249)
Sunday December 4, 2011, 8:47 am
I think Arundhati Roy makes an excellent point when she says, "As a writer, I've often said that, among the other things that we need to reclaim, other than the obscene wealth of billionaires, is language. Language has been deployed to mean the exact opposite of what it really means when they talk about democracy or freedom. So I think that turning the word 'occupation' on its head would be a good thing, though I would say that it needs a little more work. We ought to say, 'Occupy Wall Street, not Iraq,' 'Occupy Wall Street, not Afghanistan,' 'Occupy Wall Street, not Palestine.' The two need to be put together. Otherwise people might not read the signs."

I think she's absolutely right! One of the most common complaints I hear about the movement is that it doesn't have a clear message. If you have a grievance, you make your reasons more apparent and justifiable if you provide a cause and effect comparison --and in the case of "Occupy Wall Street," there are a multitude of reasons. I think doing so, even if it results in hundreds of different signs, makes the movement more understandable to confused observers, and it just might make observers understand that the reasons for the protest are as varied as the protesters. When people see footage or photos of the protesters, they see signs that don't necessarily apply to their own situation or even make sense to them. If the reasons are specific and convincing, even though they vary, I think people will begin to relate and, if not join the movement, at least sympathize with it.

Outstanding submission, Michael! Thank you for posting it!
 

Len Forster (12)
Sunday December 4, 2011, 8:48 am
Jefferson and Lincoln called it exactly right. It is, however, up to us, the voters, to put into office people who will enact legislation that will rein in this abuse of wealth and unreasonable accumulation of wealth. If Congress does nothing to bring this usurpation of our government by the hands of the corporations, then they will end up owning the country. If you've ever seen the movie "Rollerball", you'll know that a society owned and controlled by corporation would not be a good thing for any of us.
 

Toby S. (40)
Sunday December 4, 2011, 8:54 am
Occupy US, Occupy CAN, Occupy EU, Occupy Egypt. We are the occupants and we share the same human rights. Stop the disenfranchisement by the developing oligarchy and retake our republic(s) for the benefit of the citizens.
 

Parsifal Rain S. (118)
Sunday December 4, 2011, 9:45 am

Vice versa, Michael, in this sinister circles of the cult, nothing goes accidently.

Hidden hand has planned a long time, even before Mayer Amschel Rotten Child was born.
These Banxters only assigned M.A. Rotten Child with their agenda to control every thing - the entire planet, governments and its people by debts.
 

William K. (328)
Sunday December 4, 2011, 10:12 am
Our current situation can certainly be characterized as a failure of the imagination.
 

Terrie Williams (761)
Sunday December 4, 2011, 10:53 am
Thanks, Michael.
 

Danuta Watola (1180)
Sunday December 4, 2011, 10:58 am
Thanks
 

Holly Lawrence (473)
Sunday December 4, 2011, 11:10 am
thanks!
 

Frances Perlman (1)
Sunday December 4, 2011, 11:31 am
The world has seen how sinister cults are and should take measures to avoid their control.
 

Dave C. (213)
Sunday December 4, 2011, 11:37 am
jefferson was correct.....
 

LeMoyn Salmoen (90)
Sunday December 4, 2011, 11:43 am
CAPITALISEM is in its death throws and in such a state it will employ any and all the means we have allowed it to accumulate, by our inattentiveness, to lash out from its stance of inverted totalitarian control. It will suck everything it has perceived as having value into its vortex with absolute disregard for the lasting consequences, as it always has. As with all things overcome by its now pervasive evil aspects self destruction is eminent.

Its time to bring this phase of our suffering to an end. Occupy something, this is our planet, our Mother, which means it falls to us to take care of it. To accomplish that we will be forced to wrench control from the grasp of and alter the course set by the plunderers for its extinction in their passing. Occupy something and just say NO, no more control by the insane dictating the course we take.
 

Past Member (0)
Sunday December 4, 2011, 11:44 am
We've allowed greedy, unscrupulous 'men' control the banking industry. It is time more women took control. Christine Lagarde and Andrea Merkel could make a big difference in the workings of the banking institution, but this is not enough. The 'OLD BOYS' club needs to be disbanded!
 

Dotti Lydon (116)
Sunday December 4, 2011, 11:53 am
Excellent post, Michael (your first comment). Thank you.
 

Phillip I. (67)
Sunday December 4, 2011, 12:37 pm
So true, so true...
 

Henriette Matthijssen (145)
Sunday December 4, 2011, 12:47 pm
We all come into this world with nothing as we will also return back to our sources with nothing material! It is the Good we have done & the Love we have shared for all others that we will leave behind & take with us! We belong to the earth, the earth does not belong to us, but merely a tool to help each other along the way back to our source, eternal life, infinity! When do we all start to "love" stop war, suppress ego, kill greed, snuff out selfishness? We are ONE.
 

Joe R. (189)
Sunday December 4, 2011, 12:54 pm
Great post. Thanks Michael. Article noted.
 

Kenneth L. (314)
Sunday December 4, 2011, 1:02 pm
What's more amazing is Jefferson's statement in 1812 is only 36 years after America rebelled and won their independance through revolution thus getting out from under the British system of aristocracy, and wealthy class rule
 

Jayne Braby Bethard (4)
Sunday December 4, 2011, 1:19 pm
"It has to keep re-imagining itself, because holding territory may not be something the movement will be allowed to do in a state as powerful and violent as the United States."
Wow, she's talking about the country I call my home - I find this startling and sadly true!
 

Mary T. (188)
Sunday December 4, 2011, 2:15 pm
Thanks Michael for posting this great post, Occupy the World, as every country has taken away the Human rights of the oppress people with a small percent owning everything, This is not just happening in the United States but everywhere in the world. Any society which does not insist upon respect for all life must necessarily decay- Albert Einstein. Each time someone stands up for an ideal or acts to improve the lot of others, or strikes out against injustice, they sends forth a tiny ripple of hope- Robert Kennedy.
 

Carlene V. (201)
Sunday December 4, 2011, 2:22 pm
Thank you Michael. The first sentence is fantastic!
 

Fred Krohn (34)
Sunday December 4, 2011, 2:32 pm
Excess government, as much as corporate greed, is the problem. Government is rarely, if ever, a solution.
 

ewoud k. (73)
Sunday December 4, 2011, 3:11 pm
It's easier to create problems than solve them.

The larger the scale of the problem, the harder it is to solve it.

Even if it's also true that there are no problems, only solutions - we just need to have the will to find them.
 

Monica D. (580)
Sunday December 4, 2011, 3:16 pm
I think that CASSE may have some good ideas for a solution, at http://steadystate.org .

I like the quote from Zinn. Obedience to evil is a big part of the problem.
 

Yvonne White (231)
Sunday December 4, 2011, 3:26 pm
"The People Who Created the Crisis Will Not Be the Ones That Come Up With a Solution" so make sure Those People are driven out! Occupy CONgre$$! :)
 

Kate Kenner (202)
Sunday December 4, 2011, 3:30 pm
As always he speaks words of wisdom. If there is nothing in it for them they will do nothing.
 

Bill Eagle (32)
Sunday December 4, 2011, 3:40 pm
The people who started the crisis don't want a solution. They are fat and happy and we are all paying for their greed.
 

Dandelion G. (381)
Sunday December 4, 2011, 3:44 pm
Occupy Your Mind.....

Arundhati Roy "We will soon have to admit that those people, like the millions of indigenous people fighting to prevent the takeover of their lands and the destruction of their environment the people who still know the secrets of sustainable living are not relics of the past, but the guides to our future."

Aho!

 

Penelope Ryan (172)
Sunday December 4, 2011, 3:50 pm
A lot of the problem is the majority of Americans still think with 1950's mentality and refused to educate themselves to the corruption going on around them. Like the mustangs who are being systematically destroyed. They will say"I didn't know." When the last horse is eaten{thanks Obama}, and America is destroyed, they will claim ignorance. The way I see it it, they stupid!!!
 

Jennifer C. (172)
Sunday December 4, 2011, 4:05 pm
Thanks for this article.
 

Rose NoFWDSPLZ (276)
Sunday December 4, 2011, 4:24 pm
A GREAT POST TY MICHAEL
 

Past Member (0)
Sunday December 4, 2011, 4:26 pm
Michael, thank you for the comment from Abraham Lincoln.

Let's all notice, our country survived
and better than before.
Now our African American folks are free....
well, at least as free as the rest of us.
Together,
our different races and genders and
faiths are working together for a
better world.
 

Agnes N. (717)
Sunday December 4, 2011, 4:32 pm
Thanks Michael
 

Colleen L. (2)
Sunday December 4, 2011, 4:40 pm
Great article. Thanks Michael
 

dAlbert M. (13)
Sunday December 4, 2011, 5:29 pm
THAT INDEED IS ALWAYS THE CASE because they are 'INEXTRICABLY BONDED, NO WELDED TO THE 'CRISIS-OGENIC IDEAS in the first place and it is extremely hard to WEAN them of them !!Even if GW had had a 'BRAIN WAVE' and tried to embark on an alternative, mor fiscally prudent and humane course, I am pretty certain Cheney, Rumsfeldt , Wolfowitz and even the long term head of the FEDS at the time as well as 'Wheeler-Dealers' on the WALL and Lobbyists on The hILL would NEVER HAVE PERMITTED IT ! RECALL the 'Canvas straight-jacket ' they had Bill Clinton in even with a 'Friendlier' HILL and OBSERVE THE CURRENT TIGHT GRID-LOCK THEY HAVE OBAMA IN !!!!!It is CURRENT SYSTEM that has its BRETTON-WOODS and will never change until 'DOLLAR-GOLD DECOUPLING occurs and SDR (Special Drawing Rights) are made the norm, at least until another crisis arises in 70 -80 years time when some other solution will need to be TRIED !!!!
 

Alicia N. (87)
Sunday December 4, 2011, 5:35 pm
all those quotes are full with the truth, very wise all of them.

Many thanks for sharing Dear Michael, as I see with sadness what's happening to our country.
Take care people...
 

ellen m. (233)
Sunday December 4, 2011, 5:57 pm
Thanks once again Michael, and fir all the astute comments.
Jefferson has been quoted much in recent months, and i'm glad to see Lincoln is now getting credit as well!
And for any who may have missed it, TomCat had an excellent couple of threads this morning, one on Alan Grayson talking about Lincoln, the other of "labour being the superior to capitalism".
If any of you have time, these articles are short, amd well worth the time to read.
And as Alicia said, and i'll add a little to it..
Whatever you do, especially if your physicaly involved in Occupy, please stay safe out there..we need each and every one of you in one piece to continue to fight for what we know to be a rightous cause...1love, ellem
 

ellen m. (233)
Sunday December 4, 2011, 6:27 pm
Albert Einstein was no dummy either..
"We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them." WORD!
And to anyone that didn't recieve a green star from this thread, blame the care2 g/star grinch for preventing me from sending you more then his weekly allotement of 1...you all deserve one, daily in my opinion!
And thanks again Michael.
 

Lyn Z. (295)
Sunday December 4, 2011, 6:52 pm
Welcome back to Feudalism.
Thanks MIchael
 

Esther Z. (101)
Sunday December 4, 2011, 7:20 pm
Noted. Great interview of Ms. Roy; her unique perspective of the current political climate and the OWS movenment. I wholeheartedly agree on how the definition of Democracy has conveniently morphed to mean the same as Capitalism. Her statement," Democracy no longer means what it was meant to. It has been taken back into the workshop. Each of its institutions has been hollowed out, and it has been returned to us as a vehicle for the free market, of the corporations." hit the nailed on the head. The wars, supposedly to give the freedom of Democracy to those countries lacking in its glory, have only created futured pools of cheap labor for those conglomerates eager to increase their profit margins. Placing Democracy as a priority, and separating it from the clutches of Capitalism, is going to take herculian efforts by populist movements, like OWS, and NEW leaders who have a different vision for the future of our country.
 

Gary A L. (132)
Sunday December 4, 2011, 7:27 pm
thank you Michael great piece we must fight the money changers
 

Daniel Partlow (189)
Sunday December 4, 2011, 7:39 pm
We have rampant Capitalism and not Democracy. How can you have democracy when the corporations have all the power? Our founding fathers must be turning in their graves. This country is a mockery of our constitution.
 

Pat B. (354)
Sunday December 4, 2011, 8:12 pm
Thank you, Michael for this, loved the first part...so true. Passing this on to friends!!
 

Bonnie B. (103)
Sunday December 4, 2011, 8:25 pm
Great post. Thanks Michael!
 

Matloob ul Hasan (81)
Sunday December 4, 2011, 8:38 pm
Noted, thanks.
 

John Alexander (0)
Sunday December 4, 2011, 8:47 pm
Well said and I agree with what Ms Roy said and the outline of occupy wall street. I want to add how the FDA,CDC, AMA, the health industry, the insurance industry, the pharmaceutical industry,etc are also putting a stranglehold on all of us. I care about good healthy food, alternative health care, the destruction of Big Pharma, the resurrection of the small farmer who raises healthy food fit to eat, the environment and nature, not the police state that seems to be creeping very quickly to limit our choices. The Industrial military congressional complex needs to be dismantled/overhauled. I don't know how this will be done, but that is some thoughts. Take away lobbiest and the power elite that influence congress and the making of laws and policy.
 

june t. (63)
Sunday December 4, 2011, 9:29 pm
thanks for the article
 

Kamila A. (141)
Sunday December 4, 2011, 9:46 pm
I have had that bumper sticker on my car for years!!! YES, indeed, these brainless, heartless, minds will not be the ones to solve the predicaments facing us. We need to think with our hearts, with our minds, and outside of the old worn out box.
 

Michael Carney (207)
Sunday December 4, 2011, 10:13 pm
Noted, thanks Michael...My question is, what will happen to the World, when the Corporations get so greedy, that they start to turn on each other?
 

Vukan Simic (121)
Sunday December 4, 2011, 11:41 pm
Can not agree more, thanks for the article!
 

Michael Dewey (1039)
Monday December 5, 2011, 12:19 am
I like what Arlo Guthrie said a while ago this year, ''The elite will end up destroying themselves.''
The Dirty Hippies Were Right
 

Jae A. (323)
Monday December 5, 2011, 2:09 am
...the only problem that might come with that Michael is that they are so GD [gosh darn :-) ] greedy and stupid that they could end up destroying the rest of us right along with themselves...and there is we must see to it that only they are their own targets somehow...
Great read and thanks for the sharing this interesting article as well as thanks to the many interesting comments so far.
Just imagine ............
 

Arild Warud (159)
Monday December 5, 2011, 3:12 am
Thanks for this important post Michael,unfortunately it's a global problem and I fear that we'll have many more "Banana-Republics" in the short future.
 

KS Goh (0)
Monday December 5, 2011, 4:31 am
Thanks for the article.
 

c fraser (49)
Monday December 5, 2011, 6:04 am
Those who created the crisis won't be the ones to come up with a solution--because it won't benefit THEM to do so!
 

Jane H. (128)
Monday December 5, 2011, 9:15 am
I loved the article-----if we could come up with economic democracy---some little socialiam it might be beneficial....think the Scandinavian countries have got it right. Keep the benefits of capitalism.....
 

Valerie Hammett (21)
Monday December 5, 2011, 9:23 am
thought provoking article thanks
 

Michael Dewey (1039)
Monday December 5, 2011, 9:26 am
95
Worker Ownership Cooperatives Are Our Way Out of This Mess|
 

. (0)
Monday December 5, 2011, 9:41 am
noted...thanks for the article Michael. I hope the needs of people overcome the greed of the corporations who will eventually turn on each other like dogs. hey..dare to dream
 

Amena Ravenwing (187)
Monday December 5, 2011, 10:41 am
Good article, thanks. Noted & shared.
 

Lisa Neste (695)
Monday December 5, 2011, 11:40 am
Noted, thank you Michael.
 

Brenda Towers (0)
Monday December 5, 2011, 11:58 am
Noted. We have only ourselves to blame if we let them get away with it!
 

Ruth R. (215)
Monday December 5, 2011, 12:46 pm
Thank You for the article.
 

Cecilia Bowerman (183)
Monday December 5, 2011, 1:13 pm
Noted and thanks
 

Glenville J O. (0)
Monday December 5, 2011, 2:01 pm
The Christ Jesus said it best when he said, 'The love of money is the root of all evil.' Not that money is evil, it's not, it's the love of money which is.
Our modern world couldn't run without money. So much easier to use cash or plastic rather than barter with a sack of potatoes or a cart full of logs at Tesco's.
As long as a person has not harmed anyone in amassing or spending his wealth then only good can come of it. I've read of very kind rich people who have done good in the world with their wealth, and I've known people with hardly two coins to rub together do the most terrible things to get their hands on other peoples money.
As long as we still have our freedom it is up to all people who love good to strive to do good and vote in like minded politicians, the Abraham Lincoln's and the Thomas Jefferson's of this world, to lead us forward to a better life for all, animals included.......A Very Happy Christmas for all Care2 members out there and especially so for the ones finding life difficult at the moment.
 

Mariette G. (145)
Monday December 5, 2011, 2:09 pm
Noted. Thank you Michael!
 

Betsy Bee (1045)
Monday December 5, 2011, 2:45 pm
Howard Zinn will be missed.
 

Ms Noting Commentator (20)
Monday December 5, 2011, 2:47 pm
Arundhati Roys perspective is very educational and eye-opening. Most of my OWS or Occupation information came from Care2. MSNBC is not covering it, and The Blaze was not really being fair with the OWS Cause and its protesters. Even when the OWS Cause was going globally, The Blaze was still down playing the situation.

I am very grateful for the opportunity of reading the interview with Roy! It was an excellent interview despite that it took place in two different vehicles which were 7,000 miles away from each other!!!
 

Robert Hardy (67)
Monday December 5, 2011, 3:12 pm
The greatest threat to any for of democratic government is an elite born of the power to control resources. Regardless of its form.... feudal, corporate, dictatorial, religious, etc... each is regressive and absolutely contrary to the foundation and practice of American representative democracy both in practice and in spirit.
 

Rita White (55)
Monday December 5, 2011, 3:21 pm
Noted, thanks
 

Phil Hanson (17)
Monday December 5, 2011, 3:26 pm
@ Susanne R.

I think the lack of a unified message coming from within the OWS movement is actually a testament to how dysfunctional our society has become. So many people are affected in so many different ways, it becomes impossible to identify the problems in a simple sound bite.
 

Mike S. (85)
Monday December 5, 2011, 3:49 pm
Noted and shared. Thank you for the great article Michael.
 

Eternal Gardener (702)
Monday December 5, 2011, 4:37 pm
Spot on, when did we give away our spirit to the money machine anyway? Collectively connected we're stronger!
 

Joycey B. (750)
Monday December 5, 2011, 5:54 pm
Great article .. Noted with thanks Michael
 

Tatjana C. (3)
Tuesday December 6, 2011, 1:55 am
Great article!
 

Toby S. (40)
Tuesday December 6, 2011, 5:11 am
If you want to know who is for the citizens, this fact is quite telling;

"The Republican presidential primary contest isn't over, but in the race to line up the richest donors, it's Mitt Romney vs. President Obama. Romney has drawn the most support from billionaires, with at least 42 donating to his campaign. Obama is not far behind, with at least 30 billionaire supporters. Rick Perry and Jon Huntsman Jr. follow with 20 and 12, respectively, according to donor rolls and the current Forbes magazine list of 412 American billionaires."

Notice that RON PAUL is not on the list. He truly is for citizens and not the billionaires.
 

angela whatley (0)
Tuesday December 6, 2011, 6:00 am
bam home run you could go all the way ! great article
 

Brian M. (145)
Tuesday December 6, 2011, 10:52 am
In the corporate American slave nation, the only solution to the economic crimes against humanity that the wealthy elites have committed against us all is out in the streets. We need to make the 1% afraid to open their drapes. We need to march through their neighborhoods and let them know in no uncertain terms that we know where they live and of what they are guilty.
 

Morris G. (18)
Tuesday December 6, 2011, 4:54 pm
Other Jefferson (the greatest founder in my opinion) quotes. Think about these as you consider his corporation quote. They certainly throw the government in worse or at least no better light:
"I place economy among the first and most important virtues, and public debt as the greatest of dangers.
To preserve our independence, we must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt" like we are doing now?
"The principle of spending money to be paid by future generations, under the name of funding,
is but swindling futurity on a large scale"
MY FAVORITE "I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting
the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them"
A CLOSE SECOND "A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits
of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor any bread it has earned
- this is the sum of good government"
"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not"
Most like Jefferson? RON PAUL
 

Lika S. (130)
Wednesday December 7, 2011, 1:05 am
Corporations seem to think they deserve the welfare. If they'd quit laying off people and hire as many as possible, then I might agree. But no. They leave, and now we have people unemployed, losing homes, leaving slum housing, and filling up homeless shelters. Yet the corporations are creating jobs? Where? Not in MY town!
 

Kathy Javens (104)
Wednesday December 7, 2011, 9:33 am
Noted. This story is right on the mark. Thank you, Michael.
 

marjolein s. (289)
Wednesday December 7, 2011, 1:58 pm
There was a time we use to swob? or swop dunno i english, as a hippie we lived for years exxchanging work for food, energy for help in a certain way, money was not used, we did not live in a commune, but more near to eachother and even throughout countries like Spain we changed places and so traveled and so on.... the best thing now would be, same as then 40 years ago, i am nearly 60 now and still i have those dreams, working together, being with lots of ppl, while actually i have about 5 good friends in real and not much family, i am not complaining, i guess i am one off the lucky ones having this number of real friends.........but when i was 20, the world looked like peacefull and in balans, no money involved.....
 

greenplanet e. (157)
Thursday December 8, 2011, 12:19 am
Kudos to Arundhati Roy.
 

greenplanet e. (157)
Thursday December 8, 2011, 12:35 am
The ones in power / making oodles of money have a vested interest in keeping the staus quo.
 

pete O. (242)
Thursday December 8, 2011, 6:23 am
Ty Mike We will need to keep an eye out for that ....egypt for instance has just appointed an ex mubarack minister. our recent budget report in England did not touch what needed to be destroyed. so far nice protest and revolutions but same old .... keeps poping out from under the cistern - whatever bleach of consiounce is poared on it . love n peace
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SANDRA R. (147)
Friday December 9, 2011, 8:21 am
Noted. Thank you Michael.
 

Yvonne F. (163)
Saturday December 10, 2011, 10:50 am
Neither are they going to be the ones who pays! They should be forced to pay back the money they have stolen!!!!! It's just too much that they will get away with it!
 

Nancy C. (797)
Saturday December 17, 2011, 6:24 am
Thanx Michael. Reinventing the imagination...As Dandelion says, "Occupy the Mind '!
 

James Berryhill (22)
Tuesday December 20, 2011, 11:13 pm
Thank you, And noted...
 
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