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World Peace Is Hanging By A Thread


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Michael
- 1188 days ago - opednews.com
The atomic bomb never should have been used to attack defenseless cities such as Hiroshima and Nagasaki, killing with horrible and long-lasting effects 100,000s of men, women and children, in a country that had already been militarily defeated.



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Michael Dewey (1034)
Monday January 23, 2012, 12:29 pm
Author of this OEN Article: Fidel Alejandro Castro Ruz (born August 13, 1926) is a Cuban politician, one of the primary leaders of the Cuban Revolution, the Prime Minister of Cuba from February 1959 to December 1976, and then the President of the Council of State of Cuba until his resignation from the office in February 2008. He is currently the First Secretary of the Communist Party of Cuba.
 

Roger Garin-michaud (127)
Monday January 23, 2012, 12:44 pm
noted, thanks !
 

Agnes N. (703)
Tuesday January 24, 2012, 12:03 am
Thanks Micael
 

Kamila A. (141)
Tuesday January 24, 2012, 12:29 am
The time has arrived for all of us to work together to create a new way where we can coexist in peace because the alternative is unacceptable. If we want to sustain life for ourselves and our grandchildren's grandchildren, then we must stop and do it differently. Like my bumper sticker says "the minds that created the problems we face are not the minds that will solve them"-----it is up to me and you, as individuals that come together. We can do it, and we are powerful beyond what they would have us believe. There will not be another war, ever again.
 

Past Member (0)
Tuesday January 24, 2012, 12:34 am
There are no excuse, innocent japanese people didn't deserve for such fate. There would be a better way to get along for these two nations. Humans must end war or war will end us...
 

Past Member (0)
Tuesday January 24, 2012, 12:36 am
I don't understand why you used the quote by Sharon at all.

Israel, more than any other Middle Eastern nation, does NOT want 'the bomb' to be used. Israel considers the affects of radioactivity on water supplies, agriculture and and air quality more than any other Middle Eastern nation because Israel's GNP depends very much on agriculture.
MAIN NATURAL RESOURCES (world rank 2002) :
- Grapefruits (2)
- Watermelons (13)
- Oranges (30)
- Cotton
- Flowers
- Potash (6)
- Phosphate (8)
- Lead (28)

Israel is very much an agricultural nation and, even according to Martin Luther's Theses of Wittenberg, this is a justification for the redemption of the Jewish believers who have not adhered to Christian principles. Even antisemitic Luther had boundaries and theological arguments in respect of the Jewish people.

Why use a quote from Arik Sharon, a very right wing and not a very popular Israeli politician to draw attention to the article. This is yellow journalism and detracts from the important message. A message, which Israel shares---We do not want the bomb.
 

Michael Carney (216)
Tuesday January 24, 2012, 12:36 am
Noted...Sad thing is, Sharon was right then, and he's still right today, Israel drags the US around by the nose, and I'm afraid we'll be fighting another War, soon with Iran, because Israel will have us do the dirty work there...This is one time, I hope I am 100% wrong...
 

Olivia C. (53)
Tuesday January 24, 2012, 12:41 am
Thats true..
 

Michael Dewey (1034)
Tuesday January 24, 2012, 1:02 am
Heidi, Just as Michael Carney above said. Israel's leaders were beating the drum for war with Iraq, just as they are now with Iran. Most ''aware Americans'' would like to deport The AIPAC, which is in the top 4 of powerful lobbies in DC. From what we've heard, from who we call ''Nuten-yahoo''-he ain't much better. Why can't Israel sign the NPT, or is it the NNPT? We will stop knocking your Zionist in charge, when ''they'' start doing to the deeds of Abraham. Its a known fact that Vanunu (Who Israel still will not let leave Israel, or talk to Foreign Reporters.) took photos of the Nuclear Bomb Facility. Since Abraham would not have destroyed Sodom (Sounds that way to me.) why would any of his children need the Bomb? As the Lamb wanted to see the deeds of Abraham, so do we today. If we do end up at WAR with Iran...we can see why Luke 21-20 will be fulfilled, with Jerusalem being surrounded by armies for her desolation to be at hand. In this Democracy of America, I DROPPED 2 BOMBS ON innocent civilians in Japan.
 

Michael Dewey (1034)
Tuesday January 24, 2012, 1:05 am
Steve Earle singing Jerusalem at the Operation Ceasefire Concert in Wasington DC on 9/24/2005
 

Henriette Matthijssen (150)
Tuesday January 24, 2012, 1:14 am
99% of the world does not want any more wars, we all want Peace to be here! We unite together & not allow the 1% to tell us what we do. We have been sheeple far too long, it is time for us to have & to do what the 99% of us all want Peace on earth, justice, rights & freedom for all humans on this planet. We need the money spend on wars to be put to help all people of this world. We are all brothers & sisters with God! We want nothing but the TRUTH!
 

Calliope S. (47)
Tuesday January 24, 2012, 1:20 am
When the united nations was formed it should have banned all wars. It should have brought the nations together to ensure the well being of all. Its as simple as that. There are no arguments to be considered against peace. Finding resolutions is compulsory. But instead we have the same sh-t different day. Should we have faith in this organization? I think not.
May the people be united and exercise their power for peace and well being.
 

wolfNoFwdsPls a. (135)
Tuesday January 24, 2012, 1:25 am
No-one (or so they say) wants the bomb, bot some (say they) need to build thousands and thousands of them to keep them from going off !
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When will we see sanctions against the (only) ME state, which (is known to have) tricked inspectors when they visited it's nuclear plant, when they were onmce-only allowed to do so; and is since then an inspection-free zone ?
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" The nuclear establishment is conducting a war against humanity. " -- John Gofman (1918-2007), former advisor to the [US] Atomic Energy Commission; quoted in (recommended reading:) "Wings of Death" (1995) by "Chris Busby
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recommended viewing:
BBC Correspondent - Israel's Secret Weapon (2003) ~45 min, available on Utube

>> Reporter:
"40 years old reactors are usually shut dowm. But Dimona grinds on. Dimona's under control of the Prime Minister, beyond the reach of parliament or public scrutiny. And that worries the scientist who worked there once so optimistically. "
Prof. UZI EVEN:
" As the reactor gets older, and the tendency for accidents more probable, you should have an outside watchdog...
Workers' safety, environmental questions, industrial safety procedures - all are not covered. And there are thousands of people working there! "

 

Arild Warud (172)
Tuesday January 24, 2012, 1:51 am
What happenend in 1945 against Hiroshima and Nagasaki has served as a deterrant against using the Nuclear Bomb in all wars since.If the USA didn't use it against Japan then many more Americans and Japanese would have died trying to end the war by conventional weapons and let's hope that it never will be used again.What Fidel and Amadinhedad is talking about around the table is totally uinterresting,they only need to respect International laws and nothing will happen - We all remeber the Cuban Missilee Crisis in 1962 and now Iran is threatening to close the strait of Hormus.
Thanks Michael.
 

Quanta Kiran (65)
Tuesday January 24, 2012, 2:23 am
Thanks.
 

Joe R. (190)
Tuesday January 24, 2012, 2:38 am
Thanks Michael. Noted.
 

lee e. (114)
Tuesday January 24, 2012, 2:43 am
I very disturbing article Michael, thanks for posting - this calls for public participation in the 99%/OWS movements in hopes that the will of the people will be heard and acted upon for the first time in decades here in the US we cannot afford to have renegade financiers control the militaries of the world as they have done in the name of oil, and religion!
 

Jonjon Hoy (146)
Tuesday January 24, 2012, 2:58 am
Thank you Michael...! Peace be with us all.
Bravo Lee.....! Oil has become an ingraven image itself with it's riches. Greed has changed religion. God Help Us.
 

Betsy Bee (1018)
Tuesday January 24, 2012, 3:05 am
I am sorry the article had such a broad stroke bias against the US that I could not finish reading it.
 

Past Member (0)
Tuesday January 24, 2012, 3:11 am
great artical
life has value beyond measure
Peace and Love
 

Kenneth L. (314)
Tuesday January 24, 2012, 3:46 am
Americans would've been crying they lost so many more soldiers in WW2 if they would've had to try to take Japan by conventional means---which is why they used the a-bombs.
This article as far as I'm concerned is propaganda. You get the idea it's just a sweet little bunch of innocent cherubims who've been picked on by all the big bad bullies. I mean Cuba, Iran, China...all wonderful shining examples of peace and love and prosperity for all (human rights et al).
And no, world peace is not hanging by a thread. That's false.
 

Sarah G. (109)
Tuesday January 24, 2012, 4:17 am
The US should not be immune from criticism. No nation has cornered the market on righteousness, and it is sometimes instructive to read a dissenting opinion.
 

Bob P. (409)
Tuesday January 24, 2012, 4:34 am
thanks
 

Carmen S. (622)
Tuesday January 24, 2012, 4:55 am
noted, thanks Michael
 

Carol H. (229)
Tuesday January 24, 2012, 5:02 am
noted, thank you Michael
 

Roxana Cortijo (175)
Tuesday January 24, 2012, 5:13 am
Noted. thanks.
 

Marg W. (61)
Tuesday January 24, 2012, 5:54 am
Einstein was opposed to dropping the bomb after he realized the enormity of destruction of lives it would cause! Also the Japanese were on the verge of surrender prior to dropping the bomb. I'm not sure it would have been dropped if FDR had not died! Einstein sent him a letter warning him of the dangers of the bomb just prior to his death.
 

Victoria P. (108)
Tuesday January 24, 2012, 6:17 am
Noted with thanks Michael
 

Kenneth L. (314)
Tuesday January 24, 2012, 6:38 am
Japan was not on the verge of surrender. Are you kidding? That was against every idealogy and spiritual fibre of their being. They only had their very homeland to protect now as a last stand. Witness how they fought on islands in the Pacific, let alone how they would've defended Tokyo. Einstein would've been against it on humanitarian grounds, who wouldn't?
 

Debbie Hogan (118)
Tuesday January 24, 2012, 6:50 am
Where ignorance is our master, there is no possibility of real peace.
~Dalai Lama~

 

Lydia S. (161)
Tuesday January 24, 2012, 7:55 am
Michael I have nothing to add , Big Government will brainwash the masses into thinking it ensures our safety ,
Kind of like ' The Patriot Act ' We're much safer now w/ less rights , Hugs & gratitude sent .
 

Christia F. (158)
Tuesday January 24, 2012, 8:14 am
Noted. Thank you for sharing.
Hugs, Tia
 

Abdessalam Diab (147)
Tuesday January 24, 2012, 8:30 am
*Action: NYT claims Israel and US say Iran is pursuing the building of nuclear weapons
"Israel and the United States *both say that Iran is pursuing the building of nuclear weapons* - an assertion denied by Tehran - but they have had differing views on how aggressive the pursuit has been and what should be done about it." [JFP emphasis]
- "U.S. General Visits Israel for Discussions on Iran"
Ethan Bronner, New York Times, January 19, 2012
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/20/world/middleeast/top-united-states-military-general-martin-dempsey-in-israel-for-talks-on-iran.html
Compare:
"Are they trying to develop a nuclear weapon? No."
- Defense Secretary Leon Panetta, Face the Nation, Jan 8, 2012
http://thinkprogress.org/security/2012/01/08/400092/panetta-iran-nuclear-weapon/
"The intelligence assessment Israeli officials will present later this week to Dempsey indicates that Iran has not yet decided whether to make a nuclear bomb."
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But Israel still insists to bomb the nuclear facilities in Iran which will lead no doubt not to a regional war but to a new world war.Are we,the people,willing and able to suffer an other world war.Israel must know that enough is enough and that it can go to hell alone and leave others live in peace.Thanks Michael for this important post.
 

divergent revolution (333)
Tuesday January 24, 2012, 8:37 am
sarah,you said it.
countries in glass domes,shouldn't throw stones
 

Nancy C. (813)
Tuesday January 24, 2012, 9:54 am
Hungarian physicist, Leo Szilard was the first person to conceive of the nuclear chain reaction and the atomic bomb. This so saddened me being 50% Hungarian! This scientist was an integral player in the Manhattan Project. A letter fro Einstein to FDR precipitated the project. It was a supposed race to the finish against Nazi Germany.
Here is sadness of today..."The United States has been led by its contradictory and absurd imperial policy to get involved in serious problems in countries such as Pakistan, whose borders with Afghanistan were drawn up by the colonialists without taking into account culture or ethnicities."
 

Past Member (0)
Tuesday January 24, 2012, 10:05 am
Thanks again, Michael. Noted and read.
Nothing to add from here that hasn't already been said.....
 

Dotti Lydon (93)
Tuesday January 24, 2012, 10:19 am
Noted. I am tending to agree with Betsy (Bee Hive).
 

Michael Dewey (1034)
Tuesday January 24, 2012, 10:53 am
How far back do we have to go with Imperialistic American Foreign Policy? To call it anything except Empire Building would be a complete illusion. Oh, a man told me once around 91, (while my mind's eyes was in a cloud.) that America was here to show by example how things are done right. That will never come from the barrel of a gun. Oh, lots of my World View comes from Rock and Roll, (among many other places.) and there is not a doubt in my mind that the American people reaped, on 911, what Corporate Empire had been sowing for over a 100 years.
 

Henriette Matthijssen (150)
Tuesday January 24, 2012, 11:29 am
We are all being distracted with your fault, my fault garbage, do we really care who is offended, right or wrong, this is exactly their goals keeping us distracted & arguing with one another. Will all the SHEEPLE ever see pass the wool over the eyes? Or get out of the comfort zones & Unite with ONE agenda to "defeat those ZIONIST as even Care2 is infiltrated with them." You should not doubt, for a second, why Parsifal's comments are disappearing left, right & center as he speaks nothing but TRUTH! We should be paying attention. So many good post from Parsifal in Beyond Illusion group are posted. yet so few comments on them. Let go your EGO, it is destructive for all. Find Love in your heart for all as we are all ONE.
 

. (0)
Tuesday January 24, 2012, 11:32 am
noted..thanks for the post Michael. I do agree with Arild's comments and also...no people deserve to die in war. Does anyone remember Pearl Harbor? Did these men deserve to die?
 

Charles O. (209)
Tuesday January 24, 2012, 11:43 am
Heidi R. writes:

> Israel, more than any other Middle Eastern nation, does NOT want 'the bomb' to be used. Israel considers the affects of radioactivity on water supplies, agriculture and and air quality more than any other Middle Eastern nation because Israel's GNP depends very much on agriculture.

> Why use a quote from Arik Sharon, a very right wing and not a very popular Israeli politician to draw attention to the article. This is yellow journalism and detracts from the important message. A message, which Israel shares---We do not want the bomb.

I question the use of the quote too, since responsibility for this insanity is shared. No one forces U.S. leaders to grovel at the feet of fascist elements in Israel. They knowingly choose to make our country part of the war machine, and they use Israel as much as Israel uses us.

. .

One of the striking scenes in Herman Wouk's "Winds of War" is the return to Berlin. The protagonists have just escaped from the Polish front, where the German army has created rivers of blood. They arrive at Berlin and find normalcy and the usual partying: Berliners are almost completely unaware of the savagery their government is engaged in just a few hundred kilometers to the east. The German people were told that their government was responding to "Polish Terrorists", and that is what most Germans believed.

The "terrorist attacks" used as the pretext for war-making were actually staged by the German regime. See "Polish Terrorists take over radio station at Gleiwitz". Because the policies of the German regime were unimaginably evil and deranged, the policies were beyond the comprehension of ordinary Germans. But this inability to comprehend or imagine did not save ordinary Germans from the grievous suffering that the world war brought.

The same situation prevails in the U.S. and Israel today. We too would find it impossible to imagine the evil that has been done in our name. And we too will suffer, when our deranged war-addicted rulers gamble on world war and lose.

Ordinary Israelis may oppose nuclear war, but the same cannot be said of the people in power, both in Israel and in the U.S.. I remember reading a book years ago about George H.W. Bush's belief that one could win a nuclear war. These people are not only insane: They're stupid. They think that they can irradiate other countries without being irradiated themselves.

Your rulers in Israel believe that they can make Israel secure and powerful by destroying the security of others. This caveman mentality doesn't work. Sixty years of terror should tell us that. You need to introduce your rulers in Israel to the Golden Rule: Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

All of the death and destruction Israel so gleefully inflicts on others will come back upon Israel. Zionism is a form of fascism, and fascism is the ideology of national suicide -- suicidal bellicosity. Teach your rulers to reject suicidal policies and choose life over death.

See "FAQ: What's wrong with Israel?" for more information about Israel's suicidal Masada mentality.
 

Michael Dewey (1034)
Tuesday January 24, 2012, 12:07 pm
Did American Natives deserve to have their land stolen from them, when if white man had come in peace, Natives would have gladly given them cities and farms? In my mind's eyes, The Old Testament is basically a long parable with a meaning. Israel kept losing its way of not treating the stranger as themselves and nations were raised up to keep them from being free. No country is ever free, if at war!
 

monka B. (64)
Tuesday January 24, 2012, 12:08 pm
Thanks for the article, Michael. It seems to me that Israel is trying to use other countries (US.....)to do the dirty laundry for them. This is not a game, it's bloody serious . Wake up sheeple, we don't want another war !!
 

Michael Dewey (1034)
Tuesday January 24, 2012, 12:10 pm
I posted a quote and photo of on kind of Jewish man (Arlo Guthrie, in the message sent out to Care2 friends.), so lack of another photo I had that could apply...posted the other kind of Jewish man.
 

Michael Dewey (1034)
Tuesday January 24, 2012, 12:25 pm
One kind, not on.
 

Kay S. (459)
Tuesday January 24, 2012, 12:26 pm
Noted Thanks Michael
 

Michela m. (4039)
Tuesday January 24, 2012, 12:27 pm
I AM AGAINST WHATEVER KIND OF WAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I DON'T EVEN CONCEIVE WAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ANY WAR IS DONE FOR ECONOMICAL INTERESTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Past Member (0)
Tuesday January 24, 2012, 1:05 pm
For being far less than 1% of the entire USA population, Zionists wield far too much power!
 

Penelope Ryan (179)
Tuesday January 24, 2012, 1:13 pm
War is never the answer but seems to express the greed of mankind in taking from others what they want. I agree the bomb was horrible to drop on innocent civilians and the Japanese have paid the price for being an axis power. The US should not bear all the critism for the A-bomb drop. Humans in general are hideous in many cases to each other, Never forget Hitler and what the Japanese did to the hinese in the Rape of Nanking. Our species is to blame, not just the US. TY Michael
 

Jim Steve (46)
Tuesday January 24, 2012, 1:39 pm
People fail to realize is that Hiroshima was not the event that killed the most civilians. There were 3 in bombings in WW2 that resulted in more civilian deaths. Dresden, Hamburg. and Tokyo all resulted in more deaths.

Governments cause wars. That is why we need to be very wary about empowering government. Both Germany and Japan gave great power to their governments.
 

Dave C. (233)
Tuesday January 24, 2012, 2:01 pm
THIS IS SINGLE BIGGEST REASON I WILL NEVER VOTE FOR ANY REPUGLICON FOR PRESIDENT OF USA.....they've been blowing the horn for war with anyone and everyone... now Iran and even Cuba if I heard the clips correctly on the radio this AM......

Would have been nice if the atomic bomb had been outlawed, but then only outlaws would have the atomic bomb.......

lastly, while I agree US government is historically been too ready to kill and fight.....any article or even editorial that is totally one-sided needs to be evaluated more carefully.....

some fantastic comments above in many ways....but remember there are few all-good or all-bad leaders & nations in history and certainly no perfect people....
 

Kit B. (276)
Tuesday January 24, 2012, 2:02 pm

Fortunately, I was not the one forced to decide about the use of the Atomic bomb, I doubt that it was an easy decision, even before we fully understood the devastation it would bring. It did what it was supposed to do - bring the Pacific war to an end. Jim is correct, the massive numbers killed by the bombing of Dresden, Hamburg and Tokyo was indeed horrific, the problem now is that so many have or will have a nuclear weapon supply that I fear, the time will come when again the use of nuclear weapons will find a justification. There really is no comparison to ravages of today's Nukes to those used in Japan. Sane people want an end to all wars - sane people want to see the use of open discussions (the UN) to prevent wars, but of course the money men have profits to be made and trumps ending war.
 

Anna Borsey (66)
Tuesday January 24, 2012, 2:30 pm
It is IRAN who is threatening to bomb Israel into oblivion, NOT the other way around!

Iran has sworn to obliterate Israel, and all the radical, fundamentalist Muslims want to destroy Israel, because "There must not be a Jewish state in the House of Islam", i.e., the Middle East.
 

Michael Ruger (17)
Tuesday January 24, 2012, 2:48 pm
Lets take Castro's actions, the revolution was caused by Americans running CUBA by supporting a puppet leader. Anyone who took any high school recent world history courses can point out we were still doing the same last spring before the Arab Spring started .Let look around the world and see how many more dictators the US and its allies are still supporting. Come on there are still more. You know it? Then we worry about IRAN building a bomb. And now Israel going to attack IRAN.
PEACE? you want it? Then get on our own leaders cases. Tell then to stay out of other countries right to be what they want.Israel won't be so brazen if they find out ,We will stay out of anything they start . You want to call that isolationism. I call it the road almost always forgotten. Oh you want to bring Nazi Germany history into it? Well look how we punished the Germans for WWI,and would have keept it up>? JAPAN we were not playiing titily winks economically either. We preach about JESUS while we lock and load.PEACE ! How many so called Americans are writing anything about it? Give Castro Credit
 

James Berryhill (22)
Tuesday January 24, 2012, 2:58 pm
Thanks
 

jayasri amma (10)
Tuesday January 24, 2012, 4:32 pm
Noted Thanks
 

Charles O. (209)
Tuesday January 24, 2012, 5:14 pm
Anna Borsey writes:

> It is IRAN who is threatening to bomb Israel into oblivion, NOT the other way around! Iran has sworn to obliterate Israel, and all the radical, fundamentalist Muslims want to destroy Israel, because "There must not be a Jewish state in the House of Islam", i.e., the Middle East.

Sure, and Poland threatened to wipe Germany off the map in 1939, so Germany had No Choice but to attack Poland and start WW II. Hey, the German people believed it, so it MUST be true, right?

Iran hasn't attacked another country in 300 years, Anna. Israel has attacked all of its neighbors, repeatedly. So who threatens whom? Israel has 200-400 nukes; Iran has zero. Israel has its nuclear submarines just off the coast of Iran, and Israel's adoring slave, the U.S., has Iran surrounded and has been attacking Iran's neighbors for the last 10 years. Israel is supporting two anti-Iranian terrorist organizations, Jundallah and MeK. It's assassinating Iranian scientists. The U.S. and Israel have infected Iran with a potentially deadly computer virus. They are fomenting ethnic strife in Syria, Iran's ally, and in the border regions of Iran.

Since 1995, Iran has been trying to improve relations with the U.S... Who wants war? Ask who GAINS from war? Who PROFITS from war? The answer is NOT Iran.

It's true that Iran supports the several million people Israel has been trying to eradicate for the last sixty years. Iran has condemned the regime that has inflicted so much suffering on the native people of Palestine. And Iran has said that this regime will not last forever -- it will eventually "become history", as Ahmadinejad said several years ago. I think he's right: Evil tends to SELF-destruct.

Israel and the U.S. are already attacking Iran. They are trying to strangle the Iranian economy, and they are threatening to use tactical "nukes" against Iran. The more these war-addicted powers threaten Iran, the more the world unites behind Iran. Iran, for example, has the support of the non-aligned movement, and Russia has warned Israel not to attack Iran.

Your belief in the "Iranian Threat" resembles the German belief in the "Polish Threat". The real threat to Germany was Germany itself, and the real threat to Israel is Israel itself. If you want to avert a catastrophic war, you need to identify the real threat and resist it. Bellicosity, beyond a certain point, becomes suicidal. Ask Germany if you don't believe me.

. .

> Iran is ready to help creation of dialogue atmosphere between governments and nations.
-- Ahmadinejad

> The era of military force is over, today is the era of nations, logic and worshippers of God.
-- Ahmadinejad
 

Angelika R. (147)
Tuesday January 24, 2012, 5:16 pm
Thanks Michael, quite a hot and interesting discussion here.
Frankly, the only thing coming to my mind viewing the picture and quote with your post is that the man is lying in his PVS and I wished current leader/s would follow him there...
"Stell dir vor es ist Krieg und keiner geht hin" --- - PEACE & LOVE
 

Penny Away for a while (86)
Tuesday January 24, 2012, 5:27 pm
Noted,thanks Michael
 

Esther Z. (96)
Tuesday January 24, 2012, 6:26 pm
Noted. To borrow Kit B.'s comment, "Sane people want an end to all wars." All I know is that another war will completely bankrupt this nation. We just can't afford to sell "Democracy" to other countries, that eventually turn against us if we don't give them enough aid to keep their corrupt politicians in power. We need to clean house first, and solve our problems before this nation becomes another third world country!
 

Phillip I. (67)
Tuesday January 24, 2012, 6:41 pm
"What fools these mortals be......."
 

Gary C. (5)
Tuesday January 24, 2012, 6:59 pm
Noted , Thankyou.......
 

Sue Matheson (76)
Tuesday January 24, 2012, 7:23 pm
thanks
 

Jim Steve (46)
Tuesday January 24, 2012, 7:45 pm
Wise words Charles. Indeed history is replete in examples of wars based on pretext and excuse.

Iran is not a threat to Israel or the USA. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad stays in power in Iran because of the perceived threat to that nation by the USA. There is a history of threats on Iran by the USA, and he uses that to rally the masses in Iran against the foreign threat (The USA).
 

Darlene W. (287)
Tuesday January 24, 2012, 8:43 pm
If everyone worked together the world would be a better place. Blessings to all.
 

Patricia E. G. (61)
Tuesday January 24, 2012, 9:27 pm
Another juicy piece of journalism Michael,
By Fidel Castro.
Nice ~
 

Mary P. (157)
Tuesday January 24, 2012, 11:13 pm
Thanks Michael, interesting article. We the People should say No! To all future
Wars. Every life is Precious irrelevant of country, Religion, Race and Culture!
Enough is enough! Israel and Usa are the Biggest Threat to World Peace.
When are they going to tire of playing 'God' and taking lives? There are
power hungry, greedy,murderous, selfish evil zionists controlling the governments of
Israel and Usa.

I say Disband the UN , replace the Corrupt Politicians in Congress, and
Deport AIPAC to the prison of 'Never Never Land'. AIPAC is the
Axis of Evil, on this beautiful Planet Earth!

Sorry!! I know this is off the topic but I don't know how else to get this IMPORTANT message from NAACP
Out to the American People. I am from South Africa so it does not apply to me.
Together I hope participating in this will make a difference to the American People.


From NAACP,
Leadership. Commitment. Unity.

As I sat in the House of Representatives chamber this evening, these were the themes I heard President Obama speak to in his State of the Union address.

But as I listened to President Obama, I looked at obstructionist leaders in Congress and I couldn't help but get angry.

It is past time to throw aside partisan differences, put America first and embrace the American values of equal opportunity and fairness for all.

In communities across the country, the NAACP has marched, rallied, and raised our voices to let our leaders know job creation can't wait. President Obama has heard our call, and tonight he laid out his ambitious blueprint for continuing to improve the economy and put people back to work.

Unfortunately, too many members of Congress are committed to nothing but blocking the president's work. They are more concerned with scoring political points than getting us out of the worst economic slump since the early 20th century.

Every day, NAACP leaders nationwide speak with people who are working harder than ever before, and still struggling to make ends meet. Just this week our North Carolina NAACP leadership conducted a tour throughout the state to chronicle the effects of joblessness, underemployment, and poverty.

We know many of you have similar stories, and we want to hear them. Will you share with us your story on how the economic crisis has affected you and those you love?http://action.naacp.org/job-crisis-storiesMarcellus Brown is 43 years old. He doesn't have a steady job, but he wants one. He's from Scotland Neck, North Carolina, but travels 30 miles to apply for unemployment and look for jobs. There are no resources or living wage jobs in his community.

Davette Bulluck, a mother of three, is unemployed in Rocky Mount, North Carolina. She cleans yards, washes dishes, and collects cans in the streets for money. Her utility bill exceeds her monthly income by $500. She's skipped many meals so her children can eat, and often faces the prospect of choosing between electricity, water, and food.

President Obama's American Jobs Act would create 1.9 million jobs for people like Marcellus and Davette in places like Scotland Neck and Rocky Mount. His summer jobs and tourism initiative will create hundreds of thousands more, and stimulate an economy built to last and designed for sustained prosperity.

I applaud President Obama for adopting our long-standing priority of economic stability in communities of color, for his bold stand on job creation, and for leading the charge on reversing the economic crisis.

But Congress must match his leadership. Millions are suffering, and systemic poverty persists in almost every corner of the richest nation on earth. In moments like this, extreme partisanship is a luxury our nation cannot afford.

It is time to pass much-needed legislation to foster workforce training and create the kinds of jobs that allow Marcellus, Davette, and countless others to thrive, not just survive.

It is time for cooperation to trump personal political agendas.

And until it does, we must continue to speak out, stand up, and be heard.

Please share your stories and experiences on the economic crisis, and how it has affected you and your loved ones:http://action.naacp.org/job-crisis-storiesThank you. I look forward to hearing what you have to say.

Sincerely,

Ben

Benjamin Todd Jealous

President and CEO

NAACP

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ellen m. (222)
Wednesday January 25, 2012, 3:24 am
Thanks Michael.
No war. Period.
And if people that agree with the 99% would get off their ass and take part in an actual action we might be taken more seriously. Action speaks louder than words...
Petitions are fine, but untill you take real public action we will not be considered a force to be reckoned with.
To early for green stars for those that deserve them.
 

Michael Dewey (1034)
Wednesday January 25, 2012, 3:45 am
Mary P. Not enough Gold Stars to send you. Though the U.N. isn't functioning anywhere near how it could or should, it does appear to be an ok foundation. If it had been serving mankind, it would have called for a Boycott of America after that SHOCK AND AWE in Iraq.

Defending The Bomb and War, is like trying to defend enhanced integration as not being torture!
 

Michael Dewey (1034)
Wednesday January 25, 2012, 3:51 am
Arlo Guthrie - I Ain't Marching Anymore
 

Dragan Dan (19)
Wednesday January 25, 2012, 4:13 am
noted
 

Bernard Cronyn (31)
Wednesday January 25, 2012, 4:22 am
Communism, Nazism and Islamism have a lot in common in that they promise a Utopian state of wealth and equality whilst delivering oppression and death on an unprecedented scale. Taking large quantities of mind altering chemicals or escaping into a world of religious or ideological fantasy are both ways of escaping hard reality and having to solve problems logically.
 

Anna Borsey (66)
Wednesday January 25, 2012, 4:43 am
@ Michael Dewey -

Surely Bob Dylan - Robert Zimmerman - would have been a better choice to illustrate "the other kind of Jew"?

"Masters of War"
Talking World War III Blues"

and many other songs he wrote both the lyrics and the tunes to as well as recorded and performed them live.
I know Arlo Guthrie is halachically Jewish, as his mother was Jewish, but Bob Dylan was raised in a wholly Jewish home as both parents were Jews.
 

Bonnie A. (76)
Wednesday January 25, 2012, 6:18 am
As they try to push us into a war with Iran, we are heading down a very dangerous path and we will cause more pain across the world. Israel has over 300 warheads. I think Iran who is in the nonproliferation treaty unlike Israel should be educating the rest of the world that Nuclear power and missiles should be taken away from everyone. We don't have the places to put the waste we have now. I wish Iran would go to solar, but I do not think it is fair to let Israel and India and Pakistan have Nukes,which are all around Iran, and threaten to go to war over Iran because they want one. Let no one have Nukes--that's success! Get rid of Nuclear Power,too. Then we can have Peace. The other time we'll have Peace is when we all learn to treat every human being as a human being that deserves respect. The Religious Right and the Fundamentalists of all the Religions are the ones that treat human beings the poorest. Sad isn't it?
 

Kerrie G. (135)
Wednesday January 25, 2012, 8:26 am
Noted, thanks.
 

Michael Dewey (1034)
Wednesday January 25, 2012, 8:29 am
Anna B. Arlo's music since 84, has been much better than Dylan's (Except with the Willberies.) since that time. Arlo's Someday and Power of Love Albums, (Which I see as John Lennon singing down Imagine, with Arlo find his own words.) may be the reason that this (me) 64 year old child of the 60s-70s Rock and Roll Dreams, is (me) still walking thins planet. Arlo spoke at the end of a 1987 Concert in Santa Rosa California, ''There is some one here who is really going to need these 2 tapes of mine someday. I don't want to tell you to buy them. But you are really going to need them sometime.'' (And Arlo was not! just trying to sell albums! That is not his style!) I said to myself, ''That is me.'' Earlier in the show I had said this, ''What is different about him? He is walking around that stage smoother than silk."

Me, with Arlo's Satellite song about taking the day off until we all are hold each other's hands and watching the children laugh and play.
 

Michael Dewey (1034)
Wednesday January 25, 2012, 8:37 am
54 year old, not 64. But those dreams can come true for those aware, like in a blink of a mind's eyes, just by the people learning to share all of beautiful mother earth. Those not aware, may someday figure out life is how it should have always been.
 

Jim Steve (46)
Wednesday January 25, 2012, 8:47 am
Mary P...... I have to disagree. Expansion of government is not the answer. Government is controlled by the special interests and Obama more the same. Any "jobs" program is loaded with political favors and pay offs. The powerful corporate interests use their control over government to stop American based competition to them. The regulatory agencies are just used to stop those businesses that would enter into the market and force prices down through real competition. The monetary system is used to accelerate the wealth of the super rich through leverage of their assets.

Intrinsically, one of the beneficiaries of big government is war and conflict. That is because the defense stocks must show an increasing profit in order to justify their lofty prices. Any reduction in defense spending will cause these stocks to implode. That is way defense spending under President Obama has increased more per year than it did even over warmonger inn chief GW Bush.

And you cite an "obstructionist congress" . Really? Federal government spending has grown by 31% in three years, Does that sound like the government is not in the hands of big spenders?

It is said that Gingrich used a dog whistle technique of jingoism to win in South Carolina. I think that is accurate. Obama has just done the Democrat version using division and platitudes last night. It is very effective. But we must look carefully at the results of what the government does, rather than than what the leaders say. The "compromises" always result in payoffs for the people that really control government. That is why the policies never change. Only the rhetoric is different,

Under Barack Obama, the top .1% have gained more wealth in 3 years then they did under GW Bush, Those people are mostly in financial services. More government programs and spending benefits them. Every bond, bill or note authorized by "our" treasury is then "printed' by the Federal Reserve. That treasury debt is then sold by powerful Wall Street banks. Yes, the same banks whose greed and incompetence .brought the world to it's knees a few years ago. That's why they love debt. That's why they love inflation. They make a lot of money from the very things that crush the lower income brackets in the USA.

Since 1964, the top .1% of Americans have gained 700% increase in wealth as a proportion of the American GDP. The Percentage of the bottom 90% has gone down. A lot. Government policies, particularly monetary policies have reduced the buying power of peoples money by 41% when adjusted for wages/income.

You may think that Obama and big government advocates are champions of the poor. You are quite wrong. Big government is damaging them, You have only to look at large cities to see this is true. Start with Detroit. But almost any large city will show the same: decay and despair.
 

Kamila A. (141)
Wednesday January 25, 2012, 9:07 am
Michael, thank you for the music. I love being pointed toward the best stuff. Charles O. thank you for your research and wisdom. Thank you all for being willing to discuss the issues without resorting to primitive fist-fighting.
The bottom line is that the world situations reflect the hearts and minds of the humans that have created it through time (and I do believe in reincarnation). We are like a kettle of boiling stew still bubbling and spewing heat on the whole, but given the right spices and turning down the heat, and after this long simmering, perhaps we can turn the heat off. We will be complete as a world that has found its center and is a wonderful and delicious offering to itself, for its own sake of goodness.
They say that the angels who look down on us see us as a childish group who are all brothers and sisters fighting like idiots for things that are everyone's. It is like fingers of two hands fighting, when they are all connected to the same body.
 

Frank Hanline (31)
Wednesday January 25, 2012, 12:27 pm
At the risk of being flamed to a crisp, I'd like to know how Japan would've surrendered.

Without the bombs, an invasion of Kyushu, "Operation Downfall", would've gone down. Now, I'm not saying I liked what happened but no matter what city you care to name that was bombed, innocent civilians died. During the invasion of Okinawa, over 100k soldiers and 25% (over 100k) of the civilians died

Projected civilians deaths on Kyushu were in the millions. US planners put it around 10M while some Japanese Army estimates were 20M. Why? Schoolgirls were given bamboo spears and trained to attack allied troops. Medical students in Japan were shown how to be suicide bombers and take out tanks.

Am I saying I like what happened? Not at all. The bombs were the best of nothing but bad choices.

What is forgotten is what PM Suzuki said after hearing that President Truman offered to have "the Japanese military surrender" meaning the Emperor would be allowed to stay. He believed that meant the US could no longer prosecute the war and needed to get a quick ending to the war. He believed that Japan would be able to out wait the US.

The word he used was "Mokusatsu", "To kill with silence or silent contempt"

One has to remember what the Japanese High Command believed: After Pearl, 50% of Japan's government expected the US to sue for peace and essentially give most of East Asia to Japan. Almost all the rest (with notable exception of Adm Yamamoto) expected 1 or 2 more battles to make the US give up with the same result, Japan's "Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere"

But after Guadalcanal, Japan suffered 30 straight months of stinging defeats. Still the militarists in Japan felt that they could get good terms from defeating the US and giving us a bloody nose to make the US want to quit the war and still yield to Japan's "Sphere"

Even after the bombing of Nagasaki and the Soviet attack in China, Kamikaze commander Vice Adm. Ugaki from his diary "Fading Glory" stated:

"Even though it becomes impossible for us to continue organized resistance after expending our strength, we must continue guerrilla warfare under the emperor and never give up the war. When this resolution is brought home, we can't be defeated. Instead, we can make the enemy finally give up the war after making it taste the bitterness of a prolonged conflict"

I'm interested in other ways the war could've ended as it did, with the occupation of Japan, etc, but Japan of the Showa Era and Japan today are as good as two different countries
 

Tom Sullivan (98)
Wednesday January 25, 2012, 1:17 pm
It is all about Peace, why is it so hard, just greedy & selfish goverments
 

Frank Hanline (31)
Wednesday January 25, 2012, 1:39 pm
@ Tom: What people forget is that governments are not some faceless entity but rather a reflection of the people who live in the area

All governments have at least an implicit support of a large enough segment of the population to stay in power, those that don't have a minimum support, fall. Witness Tunisia, Egypt and hopefully soon, Syria
 

Michael Dewey (1034)
Wednesday January 25, 2012, 2:45 pm
I'll be the first to say, its good America got the heavy water for the Bomb before Germany did, or else we would not have ever had The Beatles.

I'll stick to this dream from1984 of Arlo Guthrie, and try to take the bomb apart, so mankind will have something to hold hands about. Must I ask, over 20 years after the cold war hoax, why does the Bomb still exist?
 

Frank Hanline (31)
Wednesday January 25, 2012, 3:00 pm
Why do nuclear weapons still exist?

Because the genie is out of the bottle. While there are few countries in the nuke club, there are many more countries that could become nuclear powers in a few months. Canada, Japan, Germany, probably Italy, Spain, Poland and many others could build a bomb just about anytime they decide they want one.

Like everything, nukes are tools. Granted there really isn't a lot of use for nukes but the tool isn't evil the application of the tool makes it good or bad. Uses a hammer to build a house for the homeless is good, using the hammer to build a torture rack is evil.

We will never put the genie back into the bottle. To try would be folly and doomed to fail. Somebody would build it and we can't ensure that the somebody who builds it would be swayed by even self preservation
 

Lakmal Bandara (6)
Wednesday January 25, 2012, 4:54 pm
Tahnks Micheal and Charles. Here are sone golden quotes from the american that i love most. (I wonder how many americans are aware of these logics)

01. America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.

--------------Abraham Lincoln------------

02. Allow the president to invade a neighboring nation, whenever he shall deem it necessary to repel an invasion, and you allow him to do so whenever he may choose to say he deems it necessary for such a purpose - and you allow him to make war at pleasure.

--------------Abraham Lincoln------------




 

Mary T. (185)
Wednesday January 25, 2012, 6:04 pm
Thanks Michael for the great post.
 

JOHNLEWIS HODDINOTT (77)
Wednesday January 25, 2012, 6:07 pm
NOTED!!!
 

Charles O. (209)
Wednesday January 25, 2012, 9:25 pm
> We are like a kettle of boiling stew still bubbling and spewing heat on the whole, but given the right spices and turning down the heat, and after this long simmering, perhaps we can turn the heat off.

Hello Camila K. --

On the whole, I like your simile. I would add, however, that some of the ingredients are deadly poisons, and instead of breaking these poisons down, the heat is increasing the toxicity. They are so corrosive that they are eating through the pot. If the pot disintegrates, we will be left with nothing.

I'm thinking of misanthropic suicidal ideologies -- fascism in general and Zionism in particular. I'm thinking of ideologues who would rather blow up the human race than be integrated into the stew. What can be done to neutralize, transform, contain or remove these toxins?

I come from a position of inclusivity: I want to be able to include everything. But inclusivity contains a paradox: When we include the exclusive, we destroy inclusivity. The omnipotent Old Testament God has created a problem that is too difficult for God to solve.
 

Charles O. (209)
Wednesday January 25, 2012, 9:59 pm
Bonnie A. writes:

> As they try to push us into a war with Iran, we are heading down a very dangerous path and we will cause more pain across the world.

> Israel has over 300 warheads. I think Iran who is in the nonproliferation treaty unlike Israel should be educating the rest of the world that Nuclear power and missiles should be taken away from everyone. We don't have the places to put the waste we have now.

> I wish Iran would go to solar, but I do not think it is fair to let Israel and India and Pakistan have Nukes,which are all around Iran, and threaten to go to war over Iran because they want one.

> Let no one have Nukes--that's success! Get rid of Nuclear Power,too. Then we can have Peace. The other time we'll have Peace is when we all learn to treat every human being as a human being that deserves respect. The Religious Right and the Fundamentalists of all the Religions are the ones that treat human beings the poorest. Sad isn't it?

Hello Bonnie A. --

Iran IS developing wind and solar power, along with nuclear. It has called for the Middle East to become a nuclear-FREE zone and voted in favor of that proposal at the U.N.; the U.S. and Israel voted against.

Iran does NOT want nukes. Just the opposite, it repudiates them and condemns them. Many people believe that peace is best maintained by a BALANCE of power. For this reason, they think that Iran SHOULD build nukes. Iran disagrees. Iran puts its faith in asymmetric defense, not in a nuclear tit for tat.

I think Iran is right to reject nukes. Zionism is a form of fascism, and fascism is the ideology of national suicide -- suicidal bellicosity. If Israel decides to wipe Iran off the map, it will not be deterred by nukes. For the fascist, the urge to kill is stronger than the urge to survive.

To think of using a nuclear weapon -- even in retaliation for an Israeli nuclear strike -- one has to be mad. No matter how evil and deranged the aggressor, the nuclear bomb will kill countless innocent people. I can see the politicians here in the Ziosphere using nukes, because power has made them mad; I cannot see Iran using them. Ahmadinejad has called nukes useless, and he is right.
 

Holly Lawrence (473)
Wednesday January 25, 2012, 10:33 pm
Such a slender thread.. Thank You, Michael .. Noted and shared:)
 

Mary P. (157)
Wednesday January 25, 2012, 10:44 pm
Jim Steve, thank you for your input. Personally I think Obama is just another
Puppet that is being used by the Zionist Lobby and 1% elite to control
America and its Policies especially towards Israel and those countries Israel consider,
Its enemies!

My main intention for pasting the LETTER from NAACP was :

"Please share your stories and experiences on the economic crisis, and how it has affected you and your loved ones :http://action.naacp.org/job-crisis-stories. Thank you. I look forward to hearing what you have to say"

I am hoping that those unemployed and suffering Americans, by Sharing
their personal stories, can perhaps make some Positive difference in their lives. :)
 

Mary P. (157)
Wednesday January 25, 2012, 11:03 pm
Michael, thank you for your stars. The UN atm, to me is just an 'Extension'
of the American Government ( OWNED by Israel). Ban ki Moon is
Its 'Puppet' and Yes! Man and should be banned to the Moon. The UN is
definitely Not working for Mankind. It does bits and pieces, here and there,
as a 'cover up'; for show to the people of the world; BUT its main Purpose
Is to pander to every Whim and Fancy of the the American Government, soon
To be called the United States of Israel!
 

Charles O. (209)
Thursday January 26, 2012, 1:20 am
Bernard Cronyn writes --

> Communism, Nazism and Islamism have a lot in common in that they promise a Utopian state of wealth and equality whilst delivering oppression and death on an unprecedented scale.

You seem to be forgetting:

* WW I -- 10-20 million killed by capitalists and imperialists
* The genocide in North America -- millions killed by colonialists
* The 1900 genocide in the Belgian Congo, in which 10 million were killed
* The Pacific theater in WW II -- 67 Japanese cities fire-bombed by the U.S.
* WW II -- Britain fomenting war between Germany and U.S.S.R.
* The U.S. aggression against Vietnam -- 1 to 3 million dead
* The sanctions against Iraq -- a million killed
* The aggression against Iraq -- another million killed
* Palestine -- 95% of the killing done by Israel

Poisonous Utopia? -- that would be Israel. And for the last ten years, Israel-firsters have been fomenting WW III. So you need to add a few more isms to your list:

* Colonialism
* Imperialism
* Capitalism
* Zionism

If you achieve you WW III, the death toll from Zionism will be in the billions.
 

Mary P. (157)
Thursday January 26, 2012, 2:30 am
Excellent response Charles. Eye openers of Truth to remove Bernard's stereotyping Blinkers!
 

Charles O. (209)
Thursday January 26, 2012, 8:57 am
> The UN atm, to me is just an 'Extension' of the American Government ( OWNED by Israel). Ban ki Moon is Its 'Puppet' and Yes! Man and should be banned to the Moon. The UN is definitely Not working for Mankind. It does bits and pieces, here and there, as a 'cover up'; for show to the people of the world; BUT its main Purpose Is to pander to every Whim and Fancy of the the American Government, soon To be called the United States of Israel!

On the whole, Mary, I have to agree with you. Take the sanctions against Iraq. The sanctions actually helped Saddam while leading directly to the deaths of a million Iraqis, including many Iraqi children.

The effect of the sanctions was well known, both in the U.S. and in the U.N.. Remember Madeleine Albright?

> ... we think the price is worth it.

-- Madeleine Albright, in a 1996 CBS Lesley Stahl interview, when asked whether 500,000 dead Iraqi children was too high a price to pay.

And yet the U.N. did nothing to end them. Is that "serving humanity"?

The U.N. went on to offer the U.S. a forum for the "Iraqi WMD" charade. For months, U.N. representatives from European countries debated over what could be done about "Iraqi WMDs". Nobody bothered to ask whether the "Iraqi WMDs" were actually real! This farce helped the U.S. to acquire the momentum for unilateral action.

The same thing is happening all over again today, with "Iranian Nukes" in place of "Iraqi WMDs". Again, there is no evidence that such weapons actually exist, but that doesn't stop the debate, especially now that Elbaradei has been replaced by Yukiya Amano as head of the IAEA. Amano has spoken openly of his bias towards the U.S..

Let's recall that it is the U.N. that inflicted catastrophe on the Palestinians in 1947. Palestinian requests for U.N. observers have been repeatedly blocked by the U.S.I. veto in the undemocratic Security Council.
 

Mary P. (157)
Thursday January 26, 2012, 12:23 pm
Thank you Charles. Imagine the death of half a million iraqi children meant nothing
to these devils; they are devoid of compassion towards humanity. Even recently as
soon as America started targeting Libya, Ban Ki Moon jumped on
the bandwagon to warn Libya that 'it must stop the violence against civilians'! At the
Present time America is now targetting Syria and once again I heard Ban Ki Moon warning Syria
to stop its violence against civilians. Why does Ban Ki Moon keep SILENT
on the american drone deaths of innocent Pakistani people including little
Children? Why does Ban Ki Moon keep SILENT about the daily bomb
Attacks on innocent Palestinians including little children by the Zionist
Israeli Regime?? Is this hypocrisy called SERVING HUMANITY by the UN??
I say disband the UN or replace all its corrupt members with real Peoples
Person who will truly care for ALL People of the World. Justice for ALL
Human Beings, irrelevant of Country, Religion, Race or Culture.

Say No! to 'Puppets' and 'Cowards' in Governments!

Say No! To Wars!

Say No! To Zionist Israeli Regime's aggressions and murders of innocent palestinians!
 

Craig Pittman (50)
Friday January 27, 2012, 8:38 am
Thanks Micheal for initiating this discussion. There are some excellnet observations being made here.
It's individuals and governments that are evil not the citzens. It's time to pressure ALL governments to get rid of their nuclear weapons and to stop using combat troops to 'protect interests abroad' ie. economic interests. Time too to slash our military budgets and apply the money to things like clean energy and education.
 

Charles O. (209)
Friday January 27, 2012, 9:37 am
I agree, Craig P..

War-making dehumanizes us. We become addicted to a slew of spiritual drugs pushed by the War Party: Cynicism, Fear, Hate, Belligerence, Arrogance. Our peace-keeping institutions -- e.g., -- the U.N. -- get corrupted and turned into arms of war-making. Truth is the first casualty in war-making, and the U.S. has been making war covertly and overtly for a hundred years. We're reached the point where the Empire now boasts of its disdain for reality:

> Back in 2002, journalist Ron Suskind had a meeting with a “senior adviser” to George W. Bush and what that adviser told him seems appropriate for any such gravestone or future memorial to American defeat:

> > The aide said that guys like me were “in what we call the reality-based community,” which he defined as people who “believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality. … That’s not the way the world really works anymore. … We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you’re studying that reality — judiciously, as you will — we’ll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that’s how things will sort out. We’re history’s actors … and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.”

-- Tom Engelhardt, "This Is What Defeat Looks Like", antiwar.com, 09 Nov 2011

With the help from the government and the War Industry, we've come to put our faith in death and destruction. And now that evil god is poised to destroy US, along with everyone else.

At what point do we turn back from this precipice? At what point do we stop DEhumanizing and start REhumanizing? When can we confront our spiritual addictions and start to free ourselves?

Our Empire is on the verge of conquering the material world, but that world operates like a ball and chain on the spiritual plane. When we sacrifice our humanity, our existence becomes pointless.

I found a terrific video last night:

Israeli young people going to prison because they refuse to kill Palestinians.

These people get it! What is the point in "defending" an ethnic "homeland", if you've lost the ability to call yourself human?

(I had to go to a site in India to find the video, because Youtube in the U.S. has censored LedaOhio, the individual who created this and other political videos.)
 

Rita De Vos (87)
Friday January 27, 2012, 7:56 pm
Noted! Thank you for the article Michael! I agree, Peace man, not war! War is always wrong, coz' there are only losses & suffering in the end!
 

Mary P. (157)
Friday January 27, 2012, 9:30 pm
Charles , thank ypu once again for your enlightening comments!

The Senior Advisor's words."We’re history’s actors … and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.”

Actors Indeed! who when DEATH knocks at their personal doors, will die
off just like the rest of us! They can do absolutely NOTHING, no matter what High Tech
Weaponry or earthly power they wield! With all their Vast Empires and Hoarded Wealth they
cannot even STOP a mosquito from biting them nor stave off even ONE death,
when its time for someone to DIE!! (Esp. themselves\families).

That alone should make them realize in Reality 'THEY' the 'Arrogant' Ones, are Nothing but DUST or ASH!!!
 

Charles O. (209)
Friday January 27, 2012, 9:39 pm
Please see

"FAQ: How will the U.S. and Israel start WW III?",

and, in the same thread,

"How to stop it: Google false-flag Enterprise".

The video http://youtu.be/tbEYcuTI9-U explains how and why the U.S.S. Enterprise aircraft carrier will be sacrificed.

Years of sanctions and acts of war have failed to provoke Iran into providing the U.S. and Israel for a pretext for making war. This means that a pretext will have to be created, using false-flag terror.

The rulers tend to follow precedent, and in this case, a precedent already exists -- Israel's torpedoing of the U.S.S. Liberty on 08 Jun 1967. As in the earlier Lavon Affair, the intent, most likely, was to frame Egypt and get the U.S. to attack Egypt on Israel's behalf. But the ship refused to sink and the survivors managed to identify the real perpetrators, before being gagged by LBJ.

Today, it is the turn of the U.S.S. Enterprise. Israel has several submarines that may be in the vicinity of the U.S. fleet already. The ship would be hit with Israeli torpedoes. If the ship sank slowly, most of the seamen might survive. Iran would be blamed for the attack. And then the U.S. and Israel would have the excuse they need for wiping Iran off the map.

False-flag operations of this sort depend on public credulity and surprise. By googling "false-flag Enterprise", we tell the war-makers that the public is vigilant and will not be surprised.
 

Mary P. (157)
Saturday January 28, 2012, 2:36 am
Charles, I copying and pasting from your 'who gains from war'; everybody needs to read this:

"We the people" -- in the bottom 99% -- don't want war, and because we do not want it, we mistakenly assume that no one in our government wants war.  That leads us to conclude that wars and depressions "just happen".  Wars are either  "nobody's fault" or the fault of the targeted country that foolishly "attacks us" or "threatens us" for no reason.

 

The notion that other countries -- one after another -- commit suicide "for no reason" is a clue that we are missing a big piece of the puzzle.   Since our masked media tell us what the government wants us to hear and seldom question the authorities or investigate foreign policy issues, we Americans usually hear only one side of the "telephone conversation", or less -- so yes, there are huge gaps in our "understanding" of the world.  And since our government keeps most things secret these days, there are gaps just as large in our understanding of our own government.

 

The most important question we fail to ask is "Who gains?".  Who benefits from U.S. war-making?  The trillions of dollars the U.S. spends has to go somewhere.  There are a lot of war-hogs feeding at the trough.  We're told that "war is hell", but war is not hell for the chickenhawks who profit hugely from war.  For war-profiteers, war is heaven!

 

Take the Carlyle Group, for example -- Bush was a member, as were the bin Ladens.  The group invests in war-related stocks and the members of the group then start the wars that cause those stocks to skyrocket.  This used to be seen as "insider trading".  Fortunately for the modern investor, accountability at the top has ceased to exist.

 

> It is part of the general pattern of misguided policy that our country is now geared to an arms economy which was bred in an artificially induced psychosis of war hysteria and nurtured upon an incessant propaganda of fear.

 

-- General Douglas MacArthur

 

> War is just a racket.

 

-- Smedley Butler, USMC Major General and two-time Medal of Honor winner, 1933 speech

Most of the profits from war are less obvious, however.  Consider a system that is facing economic collapse.  By starting a war, politicians can deflect attention from the corruption that caused the collapse.  War enables the leaders to stay out of prison.  Under war, the rule of law breaks down -- which is just fine, if you're one of the criminals.  The government is too busy bombing villages on the other side of the planet: domestic affairs "take a back seat".

 

War is good for aspiring politicians: They can "look presidential" by railing at the fictitious "Enemy".  Using the war prospect, they can get voters hooked on the Fear Drug and the Hate Drug.  Fear is an addiction: Once hooked, the voters will keep coming back to the politicians who dispense Fear.

 

War is good for  international banksters, who can loan to both sides at extortionistic interest rates.  War is also good for the masked media, because it boosts ratings.  War is good for employment in the "Defense Sector" -- though at the expense of employment elsewhere.

 

With these very powerful incentives at work, it is hard for the politician to resist the temptation to start a war.

 

Now add in the powerful foreign lobbies.  The U.S., as a whole, may not gain from starting a war, but at least one of its "Allies" gains immensely.  Almost all of the territory this "Friend" occupies has been gained through war.  War-making enables this "Friend" to retain its stranglehold on the U.S. political process, because neighboring countries are reduced to rubble and tyranny.  The "Friend" becomes the regional superpower -- by getting the U.S. to destroy all possible competition.

 

All of these wars cost the "Friend" nothing, because we Americans are all too happy to see our own sons and daughters used as cannon fodder for this foreign regime, while we ourselves serve as the stupefied cash-cows for that regime.

 

Is there a foreign regime that sees the world in such cynical terms?  Is there a regime that sanctifies one ethnic group while regarding other human beings as expendable?  Is there a regime that makes a habit of stabbing its gullible "Friends" in the back?  Yes, obviously there is.

 

So war is not an accident.  War is the culmination of a steady process of corruption.   To avert the war, we must identify the corrupt actors and expose them and prevent them from feeding us the lies that serve as the pretexts for their war-making.

 

The real enemy is not some hapless Third World country on the other side of the planet.  The real enemy is the war racket here at home.  So long as the racketeers of war remain in power, we will see:

 

* countless innocent people in distant countries terrorized and murdered

* our own children coming home dead or physically and spiritually maimed

* our dollars by the trillions wasted on death and destruction

* tyranny and corruption here at home spiraling out of control.
 

Stella AWAY W. (258)
Saturday January 28, 2012, 3:01 am
Very interesting reading - kudos to all comments, having 'run out' of stars already so early over the weekend!
 

Charles O. (209)
Saturday January 28, 2012, 10:27 am
Hello Stella. I see that you like my January 24, 2012, 11:43 am response to Heidi R.. Your green star prompted me to recall a moving video I've seen recently. The video, created by LedaOhio, offers the testimony of Israeli young people who are going to prison because they refuse to kill Palestinians.

Here's the link: http://indiatube.apnicommunity.com/video/a2opyO5yxTI/enough.html

I had to go to a site in India to find this video, because Youtube has been deleting (censoring) LedaOhio videos here in the U.S..

I wish Heidi R. could see this video. She would see that Palestinians are not the only ones suffering because of Israel's bellicose supremacist Zionist ideology: These brave and beautiful Israeli adolescents are also suffering. The system that devours others ends up devouring itself.

And now, let me offer you another moving video:

/r/NewIsrael/comments/mhti5/we_teach_life_sir/ -- Rafeef Ziadah's recitation of her poem, "We teach life, sir!"
 

Charles O. (209)
Saturday January 28, 2012, 10:34 am
The last link should be:

http://www.reddit.com/r/NewIsrael/comments/mhti5/we_teach_life_sir/

The direct Youtube link is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKucPh9xHtM&feature=player_embedded -- "We teach life, sir!"
-- Rafeef Ziadah's recitation of her poem, "We teach life, sir!"
 

Mariette G. (157)
Saturday January 28, 2012, 1:53 pm
Noted, thanks Michael for a very interesting read. Heated discussion you've got here - love to read the different viewpoints.
 

Jennifer C. (168)
Sunday January 29, 2012, 6:17 am
Thanks for sharing.
 

Amena Andersson (187)
Sunday January 29, 2012, 12:34 pm
I pray for us all. Thanks, Michael.
 

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Monday January 30, 2012, 3:34 pm
FEB 04.12 DAY OF MASS ACTION – STOP A U.S. WAR ON IRAN
Our voices are stronger when counted together! Calling this tract of humanity to action:

http://wp.me/pWDrY-SN
 

Charles O. (209)
Monday January 30, 2012, 5:34 pm
Thanks, Doreen!

Let's remember who gains from war-making -- the top 1% who invest in war bonds.

And who loses? -- the bottom 99%.

* We lose our sons and daughters: Either they come back dead or they come back spiritually and physically scarred

* We lose our economy and our savings: Our country cannot afford to waste another $trillion on death and destruction

* We lose our freedom: P.A.T.R.I.O.T. I & II, MAC, NDAA 2012, SOPA, PIPA, ACTA, all to keep us from exposing the war crimes and the lies used to justify the insanity

* We lose our security: With each new killing spree, we make new enemies and more bad karma

Here are some threads that may help to refute the lies that are being used this time around:

* FAQ: What's wrong with Israel?
* FAQ: Who wants war?
* FAQ: Does Iran seek nukes?
* FAQ: What is Iran's response?
* FAQ: How will the U.S. and Israel start WW III?

But not all Israelis are caught up in this insanity. The following video --

http://indiatube.apnicommunity.com/video/a2opyO5yxTI/enough.html#.TyLzO7NRTFc.care2

-- offers the testimony of Israeli young people imprisoned for refusing to kill Palestinians.
 

Past Member (0)
Monday January 30, 2012, 8:13 pm
Thank you Charles.

Denial of extreme deception and economic manipulation is no longer an option, as humans stand at the edge of causing the 6th mass extinction. http://worldshiftnetwork.org/action/background/article/8.html

The truth is being unveiled for us to heal the past consciously through the heart, which re-writes the codes of reality, brings the dark matrix to rest, and sets us free. How easy or difficult we transition out of 3rd dimension dualism into higher dimensions is up to us.
 

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Tuesday January 31, 2012, 7:16 am
Self educate. Heal rather than judge the past. Take a peaceful stand for what matters most to you in life. David Icke Croatia interview. Speaking in English, David puts it all out there, nothing held back.
http://youtu.be/HvlVU8ey-Oc
 

Charles O. (209)
Tuesday January 31, 2012, 10:15 am
This is excellent, Doreen! Thanks!

> Ervin Laszlo, < href="http://worldshiftnetwork.org/action/background/article/8.html">Breakdown or breakthrough: Do the quantum leap, *World Shift Network*, *Club of Budapest*, 20 Jan 2008

I too see the heart as an integrating force. It has the power to "rewrite the codes of reality" because much of what we call "reality" is deadly illusion -- the illusion of "Left versus Right", the illusion of "Us versus Them", the illusion of "Good Guys killing Bad Guys". These artificial meaningless dichotomies may confine the mind, but they cannot confine the heart.
 

Michael Dewey (1034)
Tuesday January 31, 2012, 11:52 am
In the early 80s, from Tim Galways' ''Inner Game of Tennis, we learned to apply non-judgmental awareness to my Pool Game, which has also crept into keeping my mind's eyes open. At Pool learned to not say, ''This shot ain't so tough, which always gave it a chance of pocketing. Though by the late 80s, it was only The Old Style Rock and Roll that ever settled my mind. It all awoke with my social conscience in 94 at 36. To make a short story out of it, ''We awoke to find the world asleep.''
 

Charles O. (209)
Tuesday January 31, 2012, 11:55 am
http://youtu.be/HvlVU8ey-Oc -- David Icke explains globalism

Wow! I haven't listened to David Icke in years, so I didn't know exactly what to expect. I certainly wasn't prepared to listen to all 53 minutes. But I started it, and got past the introduction (in Croatian), and then, I was riveted.

Icke starts with the urge to centralize power, a drive that began in Old Testament times: first the tribe, then the nation, then the superstate or region, then the world, more and more power in fewer and fewer hands, till several aristocratic families are left controlling the world.

Icke then explains how the power is consolidated: Create a crisis, then use the crisis to justify further centralization. The initial crisis can be created with a terror attack, a lending freeze, a lower financial rating, etc.. The response to the crisis is designed to create an even bigger crisis.

9/11 is a classic example: Ignore all warnings of attack, keep the interceptors on the ground, then use the attack to justify smashing American liberty and occupying the "wrong country". The trillion-dollar holocaust in Iraq then destabilizes the region while shattering the U.S. economy -- two new crises that can be used to further consolidate power.

Icke talks about the Euro, where the "solution" to a problem caused by excess centralization is even greater centralization! The Euro crisis has now enabled Goldman Sachs to take over Italy and Greece. The banksters rob the people to bail out the banks.

Icke talks about Iceland, where the people refused to be stuck with the bill. Iceland is now faring better than the rest of Europe, because Iceland allowed its banks to fail.

Icke talks about Occupy Wall Street and the danger that we will play into the hands of the elite by nationalizing despised banks and corporations. He argues for decentralization.

Icke talks about the plan for a third world war -- and Mackinder's theory that the Eurasian "Heartland", centered near Iran, is the key to controlling the world. He talks about Brezinski and Soros, and the artificial "revolutions" that Soros created in Georgia and the Ukraine. He talks about Wesley Clarke's 2001 mention of a plan for taking over Iraq, then Libya, then Syria, then four other countries.

By the way, I fixed the link to the Laslo article:

> Ervin Laszlo, Breakdown or breakthrough: Do the quantum leap, *World Shift Network*, *Club of Budapest*, 20 Jan 2008
 

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Friday February 3, 2012, 9:18 am
Love is the 2012 thread that connects us to a new reality emerging. http://johnsmallman.wordpress.com/2012/02/01/those-who-would-control-humanity-are-rapidly-losing-their-ability-to-do-so
 

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