Thursday January 17, 2008, 11:55 am
1) Http://wexlerwantshearings.com

2) http://usalone.com/
3) http://www.impeachbush.org/site/PageServer

4) http://www.care2.com/c2c/groups/disc.html?gpp=5103&pst=744610&archival=&posts=27    

Contact your representatives:

: 1) http://www.congress.org/congressorg/home/

2) http://senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm    

Contact media:

http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=6

Troops Resist:
1)http://www.objector.org/girights/contact.html
orThe GI Rights Hotline (800) 394-9544
(510) 465-1472 (also international calls)
Fax (510) 465-2459
Mailing Address:
405 14th Street,
Suite #205 Oakland,
CA
94612

girights@objector.org
2)http://www.ivaw.org/activedutyresources

3)http://www.couragetoresist.org

Thursday January 17, 2008, 12:39 pm
So what? What can we do? Call our representatives? They are so bold now, they are not even playing the cover up anymore. This just shows you how dumbed down we are and in a state of shock. If we don't get burned up by the Sun the pigs will kill us all soon with their guns in the next shock! Welcome to SHOCK ISLAND America!

Thursday January 17, 2008, 2:32 pm
That is what I keep telling Ratty; my approach used to be Anarchistic, but non-violent. My approach now is psycho- and sociological: emapthy -> http://care2.com/c2c/groups/empathy

Please check it out, thanks, John

Thursday January 17, 2008, 2:41 pm
Actually I am having trouble finding the Pentagon admission that the tape was faked.

Ratty ?? Are you doing what you accuse them of doing?

Thursday January 17, 2008, 10:20 pm

This from the Washington Post, John
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/10/AR2008011000692.html

"Pentagon officials insist that they never claimed Iran made the threat. "No one in the military has said that the transmission emanated from those boats........."

Combine that with more links I won't bother posting as I hope everyone researches everything on their own and the fact that the "incident" was 20 to 30 minutes, but we get a 4 minute video. That means it was edited and spliced.

Abridged version:

Pentagon officials say they never said Iran made radio threat.

Video is cut down to 4 minutes from 20 or 30.

It is given to us and the world as evidence of Iran threating and testing our military.

It has been cited by Bush and others as Iran threatening us.

And that is not intentional?

And that is not manufacturing a threat for the sale of an attack upon Iran?

And that is not manufacturing a threat for Bush to carry around as he wanders around the Middle East with the purpose of gaining support for an attack upon Iran?

And in answer to your question John........ no, I am not doing what I accuse them of doing. That should be obvious. There is no manipulation of facts on my part, no inventing of facts on my part, nor any cherry picking of facts on my part.

Thursday January 17, 2008, 10:49 pm

Sorry, but this (also from the same Washington Post story mentioned above) should have been included:

"But Farsi speakers and Iranians told The Washington Post that the accent did not sound Iranian."

Now, about that quote from the article, I would think if you have half of the world's largest military power's navy in an area where they are told Iran is the boogie man, you might have someone on board that speaks Iranian and Farsi listening to the radio. Or am I just crazy to expect that?

Since they should have a person like that on the ship, that person would have said the accent did not sound Iranian.

Now combine that with the fact that they don't even know where the transmission came from.

And then with those things pointing out it's not something you should throw out into the world as evidence (don't know who said it or from where and they don't sound like the people you're blaming it on) they still gladly pass it on as evidence.

Friday January 18, 2008, 1:17 am
Noted and thanks! Unfortunately my security blocked this site as a phishing site and I could not open the article but the title says a lot and I've been watching them look for a reason for some time.

Friday January 18, 2008, 3:34 am
Another FALSE FLAG operation! Do research on OPERATION NORTH WOODS; for FAKED EVIDENCE the Pentagon at one time WAS going to use to start war against Cuba; but then decided not to use it, after all. For whatever reasons.
THEN SEE WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT THE FAKED EVIDENCE FOR 9/11! When three towers fell down DEFYING ALL THE LAWS OF PHYSICS, UNLESS they were brought down by previously-set internal EXPLOSIONS, NOT BY FIRE!!!

Since the ever-so-gullible American public bought 9/11, they figure WE ARE STUPID ENOUGH TO BUY ANYTHING THEY WANT TO SELL US.
And, as you said, even if we WERE enlightened, well, heck, what could we do? {shrug}. There was a TV program just on, The Ghost of Oswald, that seriously considered "conspiracy theories" of the Kennedy assassination -- but, heck, it was such a loooong time ago, "we'll never know", why bother? So it's safe to discuss this Ancient History theoretically.......... the Power Grab was a fait accompli. Like the Supreme Court decision appointing Bush over Gore as President....... THAT MADE IT POSSIBLE FOR THE NEOCONS TO CARRY OUT THE "SHOCK THERAPY" FOR OUR COUNTRY OF 9/11, A FALSE FLAG PHONEY "TERRORIST" ATTACK.
The "TERRORISTS" are ALL SITTING IN WASHINGTON, D.C., RIGHT IN PLAIN SIGHT.

Friday January 18, 2008, 3:38 am
If you couldn't get to the site:

Please join the online campaign to
SAY NO! TO BUSH'S FRAUDULENT IRAN WAR-MONGERING PROVOCATION!
Your Emergency Action is Needed Now!

Don’t Let Washington Provoke Another War Based on Lies and Fraud!

In the past week, the Bush Administration has been caught red-handed manufacturing the highly publicized "provocation" off the Iranian coast on Jan. 6 when five small Iranian open-air speedboats allegedly challenged three massive U. S. guided-missile warships. The U.S. Navy has now admitted that it had spliced together the audio and video tape it presented as evidence and that the threatening voice on the video warning “you may explode” may not have belonged to any Iranian sailors.

This incident was manufactured just days before President Bush departed for an eight-day trip to the Middle East, attempting to mobilize a collection of oil-rich U.S. client states against Iran and using the video as the evidence.

We must demand a People’s Inquiry to find out who manufactured this video? Who spliced Help build a movement to STOP another war based on lies.

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Stop War on Iran was the first international campaign formed to oppose Washington's agenda of war against Iran, and we have generated more than half a million petitions in the past two years. We have been a presence at every major antiwar demonstration and have organized meetings across the U.S.

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together completely different sound and video footage? Who signed off on it? Who distributed it to all the major media?

We must hold the administration accountable, because we know that this is not the first time that a manufactured U.S. crisis has launched a war.

On Feb. 5, 2003, the Bush administration presented satellite photos to the United Nations to prove that Iraq was developing weapons of mass destruction. This followed Bush’s assertion that Iraq was attempting to purchase yellow cake uranium from Niger, a statement that he knew was untrue. The Downing Street memos have revealed that the Bush administration was engaged in a deliberate attempt to falsify intelligence in order to justify a war they had been planning for years.

Before the first Gulf War in 1991 the photo images of Iraqi units supposedly massed to invade on the Saudi Arabia border also turned out to be totally fraudulent.

Manufactured evidence was also used in the famous "Gulf of Tonkin Incident," when North Vietnamese Coast Guard boats supposedly attacked two U.S. destroyers off the coast of Vietnam in August 1964. This fraud provided the justification for a Congressional resolution authorizing the escalation of the U.S. war against Vietnam.

This latest fabrication comes after a National Intelligence Estimate from 16 top U.S. spy agencies publicly reported that Iran has not had nuclear weapons program since at least 2003, nor do they have any nuclear weapons.

We must demand a People’s Inquiry

What is most ominous about this is that no major U.S. politician – no one in Congressional leadership, none of the leading Presidential candidates – has denounced it, nor have they called for an inquiry or investigation. Neither the U.S. Congress - now in session - nor any of its committees, all of them now controlled by the Democratic majority elected on an anti-war vote, took action, even when it become clear that the entire incident was fabricated.

With almost half the U.S. Navy hovering off the coast of Iran, this war provocation must be challenged and confronted. The largest and deadliest ships in world history armed and in attack mode, with targets selected, are now off the coast of Iran. We must take action now to stop an attack on Iran, and demand that the Bush administration be held accountable for its campaign of lies, provocation, and hostility.

We must demand a full investigation of this war provocation and the illegal war games that the U.S. Navy has been staging in the Persian Gulf, in order to prevent Bush and the Pentagon from using this scenario or another staged operation to launch an attack on Iran.

The Stop War On Iran Campaign also urges rank-and-file Navy personnel on U.S. ships in the Gulf and lower ranking officers to reveal what they know of U.S. war preparations, war games in the region, and the attempts to create a provocation in the Gulf in order to justify Washington’s plans to attack Iran.

We must take action now to expose the lies of the Bush administration before it moves forward with devastating military action. Please sign the statement at http://stopwaroniran.org/petition.shtml – which will go to the White House, Congress, and the major media, to demand an inquiry into this latest incident and into the Bush administration’s drive to war.

Friday January 18, 2008, 8:02 am
Never trust ANYTHING that comes out of the Neo Cons mouths, especially in regards to Iran. This just confirms what I automatically assumed when I first heard of the incident. Thanks Ratty

Friday January 18, 2008, 12:16 pm
Hey Marty H., here's another link that ends up at the same as the original, this bypasses a site that had it reposted so this should work..., if not let me know.

http://stopwaroniran.org/

http://stopwaroniran.org/

Friday January 18, 2008, 1:19 pm
In case people can't get to the Washington Post article, here it is:


washingtonpost.com
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/10/AR2008011000692.html

Iranian Boats May Not Have Made Radio Threat, Pentagon Says

By Robin Wright
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, January 11, 2008; A13

The Pentagon said yesterday that the apparent radio threat to bomb U.S. warships in the Persian Gulf last weekend may not have come from the five Iranian Revolutionary Guard speedboats that approached them -- and may not even have been intended against U.S. targets.

The communication Sunday was made on radio channel 16, a common marine frequency used by ships and others in the region. "It could have been a threat aimed at some other nation or a myriad of other things," said Rear Adm. Frank Thorp IV, a spokesman for the Navy.

In the radio message recorded by the Navy, a heavily accented voice said: "I am coming to you. You will explode after a few minutes." But Farsi speakers and Iranians told The Washington Post that the accent did not sound Iranian.

In part because of the threatening language, the United States has elevated the encounter into an international incident. Twice this week, President Bush criticized Iran's behavior as provocative and warned of "serious consequences" if it happens again. He is due to head today to the Gulf area, where containing Iran is expected to be a major theme of his talks in five oil-rich sheikdoms.

Pentagon officials insist that they never claimed Iran made the threat. "No one in the military has said that the transmission emanated from those boats. But when they hear it simultaneously to the behavior of those boats, it only adds to the tension," said Pentagon spokesman Geoff Morrell. "If this verbal threat emanated from something or someone unrelated to the five boats, it would not lessen the threat from those boats."

The warning was picked up on a bridge-to-bridge communication received by many ships in the region about seven minutes after the five Iranian patrol boats first appeared on the horizon, Thorp said. The main threat, Pentagon officials said, was the way the five boats swarmed erratically around the USS Port Royal, an Aegis cruiser, and its accompanying frigate and destroyer, and then dropped small, white, box-like items in the water.

"When you get a bridge-to-bridge call, you have no way of knowing where it came from," Thorp said. "Nobody ever, with any certainty, knew it was from them. But it did escalate it up a notch as it was happening at the same time" that the patrol boats, manned by Revolutionary Guards, engaged in menacing behavior, Thorp said.

Yet the Pentagon had consistently given the impression that the threat was linked to the Iranian boats.

"This is more serious because of the aggregate of the actions, the coordinated movement of the ships, the boats, the aggressive maneuvering, the more or less simultaneous radio communication, the dropping of objects. . . . So, yes, it's more serious than we have seen," Vice Adm. Kevin Cosgriff, head of U.S. Naval Forces Central Command, said at a briefing on Monday.

The Pentagon's audiotape of the warning was released Tuesday, with the videotape, in an abridged four-minute package of the incident, which U.S. officials said lasted between 20 and 30 minutes. The U.S. ships were within seconds of opening fire on the Iranian speedboats when the boats turned and headed toward Iran, Pentagon officials said.

The radio threat was merely a "sideshow" to the physical threat, a senior U.S. official familiar with the incident said. "What was the command-and-control mechanism here? Was Tehran aware of what they were doing? They made these provocative moves. The radio was a sideshow to the event," he said.

To further challenge the U.S. version, Iran yesterday released what it asserted was an abridged video of the same incident, which shows a calm exchange. "Slowly get a little closer . . . can't make out the ship number," says a Revolutionary Guardsman on a small patrol boat, speaking in Farsi. "I hear something being announced from its loudspeakers; what is it saying? I think they're talking to us."

"Which channel?" says a second Iranian. "Coalition warship 73," he says, speaking in English through his radio mike. "This Iranian navy patrol boat. Request side number . . . operating in the area this time."

A U.S. ship radios back: "This is coalition warship 73. I read you loud and clear."

The five-minute video, released by Iranian television yesterday, offers no indication of the tensions that supposedly sparked the encounter between U.S. and Iranian vessels in the Strait of Hormuz -- and no indication of an intention to attack. The Pentagon said it does not dispute anything in the Iranian video.

In Tehran, Revolutionary Guards Brig. Gen. Ali Fadavi charged that the United States was creating a "media fuss," the Fars News Agency reported. He said the Iranian objective was to obtain registration numbers that were unreadable.

The U.S. presence in the Gulf's international waters is a sensitive issue in Iran because the USS Vincennes, another Aegis cruiser, shot down an Iranian passenger plane in 1988, killing all 290 people on board. The United States at first contended that it was a warplane and then said that it was outside the civilian air corridor and did not respond to radio calls. Both were untrue, and the radio calls were made on military frequencies to which the airliner did not have access. A subsequent investigation showed that the U.S. ship was off course.

Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman said the Iranian video does not refute the U.S. version. "Simply choosing not to reveal the careless and reckless actions in this video does not change the facts from what took place," he said in an e-mail.

The United States yesterday sent an official protest to Tehran through Switzerland, while Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates charged that Iran had acted aggressively. "What concerned us was, first, the fact that there were five of these boats and, second, that they came as close as they did to our ships and behaved in a pretty aggressive manner," he said at a news conference.

Quoting former defense secretary William S. Cohen, Gates said: " 'Are you going to believe me or your lying eyes?' I think that aptly characterizes and appropriately characterizes the Iranian claim."

Staff writer Ann Scott Tyson contributed to this report.

Friday January 18, 2008, 1:48 pm
What are you trying to say Ratty? Your post was too disjointed and convoluted for me to translate. Could your summarize in a few sentences what you really want to say? In a fog right now about what you said.

Friday January 18, 2008, 6:51 pm

What part isn't clear?

Friday January 18, 2008, 7:04 pm
not surprised, our government faked information in order to start a war in Iraq.

Friday January 18, 2008, 7:09 pm
Ratty, In response to your post, I just could not get through reading a word for word detailed account of every hour on the hour. I would hope we could all use short and to the point summarized comments. I get a lot of emails and I value what people say and I take time to read them all but man, I just got hung up and gave up, I am sorry.

Saturday January 19, 2008, 1:00 pm
Noted, thanks Ratty. They have sacrificed over 3,000+WTC victims, over 4000?Iraq war deaths, plus the million Iraqis and others killed. Our government is totally in the death business. Around the globe, and here at home in different ways.