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Can a People's Movement Ground U.S. Drones?


US Politics & Gov't  (tags: drones, Obama, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen, strikes, casualties, collateral damage, noncombatants, children, families, war, predator drones, terror weapons )

Brian
- 482 days ago - yesmagazine.org
"We know that drones kill civilians and inflame hatred against the United States--but can we stop them?"



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Jae A. (320)
Wednesday December 19, 2012, 12:33 pm
The Cat's out of the bag ,so ta say on this one...world wide so I doubt it. Arguement will be the same as with gun control...as long as the bad guys have,or will soon have them, we need to keep them etc. Their plus side .. using them in 'war' ... is that ground troops aren't killed in order to go into the most dangerous areas 'after the bad guys'. Other than that...spying perhaps but that is so very open to abuse also.

The future of Robotic warfare/law enforcement I feel is already here. Lazer death rays instead of firearms..next ?
 

Past Member (0)
Wednesday December 19, 2012, 12:36 pm
noted
 

Brian M. (142)
Wednesday December 19, 2012, 12:41 pm
People's movements can be successful, but only if enough people are committed to demanding change long enough, hard enough, and under increasingly difficult circumstances. We need people willing to get out in the streets and protest...lots of people.
 

Giana Peranio Paz (367)
Wednesday December 19, 2012, 10:42 pm
Noted.
 

Angelus Silesius (64)
Thursday December 20, 2012, 5:14 am
Americans more and more show their fear of police, government and relaed authorities. In a free society we should not fear them buit feel protected by them. The powers pushing for increasing widespread surveillance and encroachment of freedoms our ancestors risked everything for count on average Americans being too distracted with the burden of basic survival on a daily basis to pay attention to much borader and profound legislation and practices that ultimatelly are not in our best interests. Drones will soon be used to release chemical agentson population below if we are not careful
 

Jaime A. (30)
Thursday December 20, 2012, 5:25 am
Noted.
 

Christopher M. (4)
Thursday December 20, 2012, 5:42 am
Is it better to risk the lives of human pilots?
 

Christopher M. (4)
Thursday December 20, 2012, 5:44 am
Another thing. Pilotless aircraft can outperform piloted aircraft simply because human beings can't withstand extreme G (gravitational) forces. A joke I read in Discover magazine about the Israeli Lavi fighter plane: could a plane be made to do a 14 G turn? You would know the guys who did it, they would be three feet tall and have dark rings around their shoulders (or something)
 

Christopher M. (4)
Thursday December 20, 2012, 5:46 am
Extreme G forces: a scene from the movie The Power. A man is trapped in a centrifuge. They manage to shut down the centrifuge but he is already dead, with bulging eyes.
 

John Gregoire (248)
Thursday December 20, 2012, 6:55 am
As a retired militray officer I am relieved that we have drone technology. It can outperform humans as Chris stated and saves many lives of our troops. This asymetric warfare is a double hell as the enemy refuses to wear a uniform. If a civilian harbors such people then they are no longer off the target list. We first met this insidious form of warfare in the form of the Viet cong. Drones are wonderful as they save American lives and kill terrorists very efficiently.
 

Ioannes J. (1)
Thursday December 20, 2012, 8:33 am
Would that become "Arms Race" technology? It's like Russian and US back in 1980 of Arm races, competition of mass of destruction in arms technology where civilian will be casualty. Some country found as threat.

If a country dislike another country on how person rule, they send in informant to bring down a ruler (Syria, Libya, Iraq, etc) to rule country in their favor.
 

James Travers (83)
Thursday December 20, 2012, 8:48 am
I would like to submit for those here touting the accomplishments and technological wonders of drones, that the civilian casualities being caused by these things are NOT making things safer for our troops. In fact just the opposite. They are creating more enemies. Not to mention that a lot of them are under the controll of the CIA alone and not answerable to our government in any manner.
In addition, our new policy of labeling all military-age males in a strike zone as combatants, according to several administration officials, unless there is explicit intelligence posthumously proving them innocent is a really slick way of "reducing civilian casualities".
 

Joanne Dixon (34)
Thursday December 20, 2012, 1:58 pm
Christopher M: You ask, "Is it better to risk the lives of human pilots?"

If by so doing we can prevent or even reduce casualties to innocent civilians, then it is morally better.

Please read James Travers' comment carefully.
 

Claudia O. (73)
Thursday December 20, 2012, 6:37 pm
Speak out against oppression. This is a long article, but please read it and remember, we are all in this together.
http://beyondthebarbs.wordpress.com/2012/12/18/incident-at-fourth-oak-mercenary-quasi-police-dont-belong-in-a-democracy/
 

John S. (294)
Tuesday December 25, 2012, 6:36 am
Noted.
 

Sergio Padilla (62)
Wednesday December 26, 2012, 7:21 pm
Thanks
 
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