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Green Party Calls for Liveable Wages, Not Just a New Minimum Wage

US Politics & Gov't  (tags: minimum wage, liveable wage, Americans, working class, home, family, savings, economic security, prosperty, Green Party of the United States, Green New Deal )

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"Instead of a minimum wage, people need a wage they can live on. Anyone who works 40 hours a week should be able to afford a home, provide for others, and save money for the future. People who work hard deserve to enjoy economic security and prosperity."

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Brenda Nelson (3)
Friday March 8, 2013, 9:54 am
For the record it is possible to live well on minimum wage, it is not about how much you make it is about what you spend it on. I worked part time on minimum wage, my husband worked full time minimum wage, we only had one kid, no internet, no cell phone, and so forth, and we did save up to buy a house putting 25% down so our mortgage was LOWER than rent. I still only work part time for minimum wage, and since bought a 10 acre hobby farm - you can do it if you make wise and frugal choices.

Brenda Nelson (3)
Friday March 8, 2013, 9:55 am
And, I should add that when minimum wage goes up so does the cost of everything, there is no gain to the lowest paid employees really and it only hurts those on fixed incomes.

Kit B. (276)
Friday March 8, 2013, 10:06 am

When I was first married, the minimum wage was $1.40 per hour, but the price index allowed for that money to be stretched to cover all basic and even an occasional night out. Now, costs are not reflected by what the people can pay but rather by arbitrary assessments that include high use of credit.

I do absolutely believe that if this country is grow and once again have a strong working and middle class, we must recognize that current pay does meet the cost of living. It is the workers of this country that build the country.

Let's begin with a minimum wage of $15.00 per hour, considering that prices are already gouging the people let them at least earn a wage that allows them to live above the level of bare survival.

We know that increasing wages will cause some slight increase in pricing, not because this increase will eat at profits, rather we accept so readily the excuses of the corporations to continue to increase our cost of living, we have come to believe that simply because it said, it bears some truth.

Brian M. (202)
Friday March 8, 2013, 10:54 am
A liveable wage is a minimum wage that compensates worker sufficiently that they can live a decent life and actually participate in the economy. It should be tied to cost of living and rise as costs rise.

Eternal Gardener (754)
Friday March 8, 2013, 4:25 pm
How come no one seems to hear the Greens? Is it because they expect us to take responsibility?

tiffany t. (148)
Friday March 8, 2013, 5:09 pm

Ben Oscarsito (364)
Saturday March 9, 2013, 7:39 am
The $9 minimum wage is a bloody joke!

John Gregoire (269)
Sunday March 10, 2013, 6:10 am
I don't think that every warm body needs a smart phone, a wide screen TV ot other so called necessities these days. The minimum wage is meant to keep people out of work arrangements where they are basically preyed upon by the employer. Yet the practice of work for tips and apprenticeship (read unpaid intern) still exist.

A living wage varies from community to community so can never be a national standard. Better to push for a stronger minimum wage. many live very well on small retirements that are much less than the annual income from current minimum wage.

paul m. (93)
Sunday March 10, 2013, 7:01 am

Let the Governments ( your Country ) live on minimum wage, without expences, and let them see what it's

Past Member (0)
Sunday March 10, 2013, 7:12 am
I agree with Paul Let the politicians who make these decisions live on the minimum wages they could not do it
All these people forget that an ordinary family will have to pay the same price for groceries fuel etc that they do Do they live in dreamland and think that the rest of the population somehow have access to cheaper goods,shopping ,travel etc than they do

Noted thanks

Ro H. (0)
Sunday March 10, 2013, 10:06 am

Dorothy N. (63)
Sunday March 10, 2013, 9:51 pm
Hi, Brenda Nelson,

I've no idea how you managed that, but I suspect that you live in an area with affordable housing?

Also, when and wherever people earned a living wage, the economy boomed and jobs were available.

There might be an initial rise in prices following an increase to a living wage, but if wages kept pace and CEOs/corporations accepted reasonable pay and profits rather than demanding a continual more! to be squeezed from anywhere and everyone else, such a high proportion of each nation's money supply would no longer vanish off-shore, right out of the economy, and things would balance - once ever-increasing, ruthless greed no longer ruled what are intended to be democracies.

It used to be possible to manage on minimum wage - now it isn't, in most places, for most people.

Hi, John Gregoire,

Speaking for myself, I actually wouldn't want a Smart phone, or, indeed, a cell phone at all, and I don't watch TV.

Around here, minimum wage people don't have 'the latest thing' - they're too busy trying to pay rent and bills;come up with money for the cheapest toxic, factory farm foods so that they have something to eat, even if it is GM; wondering what to do when their work-clothes become too shabby to wear to work.

Minimum wage people around here don't go out for the evening, or to any movies, or eat out in restaurants anymore.

They'd love to have a reasonably comfortable place to live, in a reasonably safe area, with reasonably safe food.

This typically can't be managed, in my area, or in many others, on anything close to minimum wage - and in my area, like many others, there are virtually no jobs paying much over that.

Corporations have bought up/driven out many local businesses and outsource any jobs that pay a little better - professionals/skilled workers with degrees and experience are working alongside young workers with degrees who've had no chance to gain experience in their fields because the work they've trained for isn't there anymore - they're in India or China or wherever cheap educateds are willing to work for peanuts.

So, very few can purchase the goods and services of these corporations, and not enough sales persons are hired to provide adequate services for those fewer customers because corporate greed for those wages, to add to the eternal demand for a corporate MORE! eats into the businesses themselves...

This is not sustainable.

Landlords all over have been refurbishing what was once affordable housing to hike rents, (although the odd suitable, affordable place can still be found by the fortunate,) while the price of everything increases progressively more rapidly.

Why should wages be the only thing not to increase?

And how many people suffer nutritional deprivation and other issues on these incomes which are less than minimum wage?

I've heard of of very few doing well on such incomes, and only in internet claims...
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