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House Republicans Unanimously Vote Down Minimum Wage Hike


US Politics & Gov't  (tags: GOP, Republicans, House of Representatives, minimum wage, hike, voted down )

Brian
- 642 days ago - livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com
"House Republicans unanimously voted down a measure Friday that would have raised the federal minimum wage, from its current $7.25 per hour to $10.10 by 2015. Six Democrats joined 227 Republicans in voting it down; 184 Democrats voted yes."



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Diane O. (167)
Friday March 15, 2013, 3:33 pm
All I can offer to this thread topic is do the research. When the minimum wage goes up people lose jobs in fast food restaurants and other low paying environments. Businesses simply cut the hours.

There are many studies that have been done on what raising the minimum wage does to the unemployment numbers. Look at Obamacare and what it has rendered to small businesses and large corporations. Their response to the penalty tax: cut the hours of their full time employees so that they do not qualify for healthcare. This isn't a republican response. It is the response of both republican and democratic business owners and CEO's.

To hear the liberals describe it you would think that the only CEO's and business owners in our country are republicans. It's not so.

Think for yourselves, Americans. And when you do, and do your due diligence to research the facts you will find the truth. You will find the truth.....and then you will understand the trickle down effect of raising taxes and Obamacare's penalty "tax". It's a supreme job killer and will render many Americans unable to have company funded healthcare benefits.

It's coming full circle now in Obama's second failed term....and, yes, it will be another four years of a failed Obama term....no growth and high unemployment.
 

Brian M. (202)
Friday March 15, 2013, 3:38 pm
Once again, the extremist right-wing party of the two capitalist parties that are running this nation into the ground has turned its back on the workers. It takes someone really cold-blooded to celebrate denying workers wages sufficient to pay for rent, food, and all the other expenses of bare survival. The American Dream is more hollow than ever.
 

Diane O. (167)
Friday March 15, 2013, 3:44 pm
Your comment is uninformed and hasn't been researched. It is lame at best. Many companies pay much higher than minimum wage. It is the fast food industry, the low paying jobs that have a profit margin they need to reach in order to stay in business. Raise the minimum wage and someone loses a job. It's bottom line profit that causes this.

Brian, do a bit of research on how raising the minimum wage kills jobs. Once you have done your due diligence for your readers would be offering them the facts to absorb.

Naturally, you would begin your comment with the extremist right wing party....forget that. Look for the facts before you put up a thread like this. There are qualified studies that you can offer your readers.
 

Brian M. (202)
Friday March 15, 2013, 3:55 pm
The only plan that is fair to all Americans is the Green New Deal.
 

Bill K. (14)
Friday March 15, 2013, 4:05 pm
the facts are that in the past when the minimum wage was raised jobs were not lost. conservatives have made this argument every time and every time it had no impact. of course conservatives always like to pick on low income people. workers deserve a liveable wage whatever the job. i wish conservatives would be as outspoken about making the rich pay their fair share of taxes, about ending subsides to oil and other profitable industries, about lowering the pay and benefits of Congress, etc..
 

Kit B. (276)
Friday March 15, 2013, 7:27 pm

Exactly true Bill, the minimum wage is $7.25 an hour, or before any taxes or insurance (if there is any) that is $290.00 a week, that is slave labor. Increase the minimum wage and we increase the ability for people to take care of themselves and not be forced to turn to government assistance, which no one wants. That is how we start to fix this economy, and republicans would be on board if they had not taken this obstinate stand that no matter what...just say "no". It's a stupid way to try and run a government.
 

JL A. (276)
Friday March 15, 2013, 7:31 pm
This was a vote designed to kill people working for this trapped in poverty
 

JL A. (276)
Friday March 15, 2013, 7:37 pm
FactCheck: nope, raising minimum wage doesn't reduce jobs

A new paper from the Center for Economic and Policy Research finds that modest increases in the minimum wage – such as the one proposed by President Obama in his State of the Union address - have little impact on employment, due to adjustments by employers and workers. The paper, “Why Does the Minimum Wage Have No Discernible Effect on Employment?” by economist John Schmitt reviews evidence on eleven possible adjustments to minimum-wage increases that may help to explain why the measured employment effects are so consistently small. It finds that the strongest evidence suggests the most important adjustments are: reductions in labor turnover; improvements in organizational efficiency; reductions in wages of higher earners ("wage compression"); and small price increases.

http://www.cepr.net/index.php/press-releases/press-releases/new-paper-finds-modest-minimum-wage-increases-have-little-impact-on-employment
 

JL A. (276)
Friday March 15, 2013, 7:42 pm
Also note the research that raising the minimum wage, and related pay adjustments up, actually increases the profitability of the businesses like fast-food, retail and restaurants because of the expansion in buying power of customers and new customers. This was a fiscally, economically irresponsible vote.
 

tiffany t. (148)
Friday March 15, 2013, 11:06 pm
if minimum wage cannot be raised than inflation shouldn't happen either
 

Nancy M. (202)
Saturday March 16, 2013, 7:18 am
Well of course they do. It would give some extra spedning money to those "moochers" at the low end.
 

Diane O. (167)
Saturday March 16, 2013, 7:50 am
$60 billion a year in fraud and abuse....and every year the taxpayers fund this big elephant in the room. I'm in favor of cost of living raises to our "Americans" who need help from us. If our government can get the fraud and abuse out of the mix we as a country could do a great deal more for our disabled and those who need a hand up while they reposition themselves financially. Unfortunately, we have three and four generations of welfare recipients. Think about that. The system was never designed for that.

 

tasunka m. (338)
Saturday March 16, 2013, 9:19 am
The American dream??? what's that
it hasn't been a good dream for over 50 years, so the "american nightmare" rages on.
taking down all the progress we've made for women and minorities,in a way no one expected...a return to the idealogy of years past that harbored prejudice, anti science (flat earth society is still around),so we get what these people let us have,and not a penny more for the deserving..Welfare created an anti help attitude in many, because of some fraud, better that the fraud should be coming from doctors,hospitals and banks.
Right,that's the American dream, lying,scheming ,defrauding and plain out cruelty to the non club members.
ty Brian
 

JL A. (276)
Saturday March 16, 2013, 9:36 am
Someone is having trouble reading...this is a topic about raising the minimum wage which has no discernable relationship to fraud and abuse.
 

Kit B. (276)
Saturday March 16, 2013, 9:48 am

@Diane - Please do read the document offered above by J L:

The paper, “Why Does the Minimum Wage Have No Discernible Effect on Employment?” by economist John Schmitt reviews evidence on eleven possible adjustments to minimum-wage increases that may help to explain why the measured employment effects are so consistently small. It finds that the strongest evidence suggests the most important adjustments are: reductions in labor turnover; improvements in organizational efficiency; reductions in wages of higher earners ("wage compression"); and small price increases.

http://www.cepr.net/index.php/press-releases/press-releases/new-paper-finds-modest-minimum-wage-increases-have-little-impact-on-employment
 

Nancy M. (202)
Saturday March 16, 2013, 10:06 am
Tasunka- you are so right. I just look at my own family- nieces with college degrees who can't get much more than those minimum wage jobs and certainly can't support families. Not that my sisters or I have the lifestyle that my parents did (Yes, quite comfortable they were).
 

Bill and Katie D. (90)
Saturday March 16, 2013, 9:15 pm
We believe they should have a "LIVING WAGE"! When they don't make emough to live they have AID they qulify for! That comes from the taxpayer! I have seen buinesses limit the hours worked to 20 hours just so they don't have to pay Health Benefitsthen have had to be there for 1 year working these same amount of hours! Mayor Daily of Chicago had passed a "LIVING WAGE' about 12 yrs ago of $7.50. do you think the people that are against this Raise could live on this amount of money?? I doubt this! Most of the people want to work more hours but are limited, at this rate they have to have 2-3 jobs and still would not have any benefits!
Guess this is good way to keep the people down! common sense figures 20 X $10.00 is only $200.00 doesn't go very far. Have to have a car or transportation to this job,gas,Insurance for the car,food,rent,elec. babysitting! Let these politican against this try to do it!
We pay them well enough!
 

Heidi Aubrey (16)
Saturday March 16, 2013, 9:22 pm
Diane O. You are the misinformed. How can a corporation continue to produce without the same number of workers? Make the remaining workers, worke overtime? Boy that would be an enormous tax hike to the corporation as well-tax on overtime-cringe, cringe to any corporation. So what happens? They pay a livable wage. That's what happens and they inturn raise their prices. Which encourages the capital system of competition-something that corporations really dread.
 

Bryan S. (105)
Saturday March 16, 2013, 10:35 pm
It seems like every single time something is proposed that would help working people (especially low-income), most Republicans trot out some myths to say it shouldn't be done, even if it would help the economy. What is the underlying mentality behind this? Punishing the sinners?

But anyway, yes, besides being long overdue, it would help the economy by increasing demand. Republicans seem to have a real hard time understanding the demand part of supply and demand. We've had way more than enough supply-side nonsense.
 

John Gregoire (262)
Sunday March 17, 2013, 5:30 am
In a sense, Diane is correct. Business response to increased min wage or mandated health care is to move an employees hours out of the range. Instead of 40hrs/wk with benies the employee gets cut to 39 hours or less with nothing . Many businesses are at the cusp of expansion but found that they can produce at high levels with fewer people. They've also discovered that without union padding, many fewer people are needed. yes, more jobs have been created but they are mostlly low-shill, low pay Mcjobs and that's not what we need.

Heidi, lots of people work at salary or over the allotted hours to simply keep their good jobs. Hiring and production will rise when the administrations and Congress agree on a solid plan upon which all can plan. The administartion also needs to pay for its spending.
 

Michelle R. (5)
Sunday March 17, 2013, 6:46 am
noted.
 

Diane O. (167)
Sunday March 17, 2013, 8:43 am
John, their hours are cut back to 30 making them ineligible for benefits. Some companies will give full benefits to 32 hours but not many. Usually it will be the large corporations that can hire at 32 hours with benefits. Small businesses, where 53% of Americans have jobs have to take more drastic measures.

Here's the story on Obama's 4 years in office and it appears the next four years will follow the same path:

Normally, businesses do a five year plan. They project based on current taxes, growing their businesses and adding employees based on current profit margins. Since Obama took office he delivered a great deal of uncertainty to businesses. Early in 2009, Obama had a supreme opportunity to turn the country around economically. All he had to do was focus on lifting up the small businesses with 0% lines of credit at the banks backed by the government, and assure them that their taxes would not go up. He should've given them an incentive to hire more employees. And then he needed to promise them that while he was in office nothing would change. That's called delivering "confidence" to the business owners that they could move forward with their 5 year plan to grow, prosper and add more jobs. Instead of protecting the middle and lower middle class Americans Obama went full throttle to do something that a narcissist would do....focus an entire year on himself putting forth his "legacy" healthcare bill which we now refer to as Obamacare or The Affordable Care Act. That being said, since then he has raised taxes on the small business owners those earning over a certain amount and then he ambushed them with the healthcare penalty tax which is somewhere around $2,800 per employee if they don't provide healthcare.

So, what has this done to our economy? We still have low growth and high unemployment. We now have the government shedding jobs by the thousands due to the sequester. Obama got his tax hike and now he intends to get another one. He isn't the slightest bit interested in cutting anymore spending. Meanwhile, our small businesses and large corporations sit idle not moving forward and, in fact, businesses have closed their doors and/or laid off employees and now with the minimum wage hike a sharp reduction in employee hours.

I am amazed at the lack of economic skills from the left. They see what is happening and instead of blaming Obama they blame the republicans. George W. Bush can no longer be blamed. He had TARP on his deficit and most of that has been repaid greatly reducing the deficit he handed Obama. What Obama has done is whine, complain and blame Bush while raising taxes, creating private sector green companies which have failed miserably and, yes, I could go on and on like I always seem to do trying desperately to educate the left with the truth.

If an employee is lucky enough to work overtime for a company, which is rare these days, it may be because the company had to shed a few employees and it's less expensive to pay the overtime than to keep those employees who were receiving benefits.

Doom and gloom....four more years of no growth and four more years of gridlock. The American people in November of 2010 sent a message to Obama, a message that follows him constantly and that is they replaced the spending democrats with no more spending republicans. This is why we have gridlock. Those elected are doing exactly what they campaigned to do and that is why they were elected in 2010.

Obama is toast on many levels. He has been a colossal failure on his own and I thank God every day that the American people in 2010 did what they had to do to stop the outrageous spending. We still don't have a budget from Obama but we are told it will be submitted in April. The first budget he delivered couldn't get passed by his own democrats in the Senate. It will be interesting to see if this budget is exactly like the first one because, after all, a narcissist can't accept that his idea isn't the best idea. Obama is a pure narcissist, and not a smart one at that, and he will continue to believe that when he walks into a room he is the smartest man in there.
 

Dorothy N. (63)
Monday March 18, 2013, 4:59 pm
Of course the Republicans voted against it.

If they could manage it, they wouldn't even pay 'the lower classes', and would probably grind their bodies into burgers when they starved.

Nothing they say or do could could really surprise me anymore...
 

JL A. (276)
Monday March 18, 2013, 5:46 pm
I am amazed at the unwillingness to pay attention to the actual, statistically valid research provided by some--like that posted above and to spout myths unsubstantiated by valid research instead:
FactCheck: nope, raising minimum wage doesn't reduce jobs

A new paper from the Center for Economic and Policy Research finds that modest increases in the minimum wage – such as the one proposed by President Obama in his State of the Union address - have little impact on employment, due to adjustments by employers and workers. The paper, “Why Does the Minimum Wage Have No Discernible Effect on Employment?” by economist John Schmitt reviews evidence on eleven possible adjustments to minimum-wage increases that may help to explain why the measured employment effects are so consistently small. It finds that the strongest evidence suggests the most important adjustments are: reductions in labor turnover; improvements in organizational efficiency; reductions in wages of higher earners ("wage compression"); and small price increases.

http://www.cepr.net/index.php/press-releases/press-releases/new-paper-finds-modest-minimum-wage-increases-have-little-impact-on-employment
 

Nancy C. (810)
Monday March 18, 2013, 5:52 pm
I'm tired of the lies. Washington does not have our lives, liberty or happiness??? in mind.
 

Bryan S. (105)
Monday March 18, 2013, 6:10 pm
So true JL A, but i think many conservatives are so stuck on the notion of trickle down supply side economics (even though it's been proven a complete failure) that they reflexively criticize anything that doesn't fit that model. They trot out the same myths about "job creators," "welfare queens," minimum wage, socialism, etc., and claim to be educating people. Maybe it just all comes down to being enamored with the rich and having a certain amount of contempt for the poor.

Though an increase in the minimum wage would be a small profit decrease for some businesses, it would also be a definite benefit for many businesses due to the increase in spending by low-income workers -- a definite stimulus. And there's the cost benefit of increased employee morale and lower turn-over rate.

Of course it's the decent thing to do since the minimum wage is now far below any sort of living wage. But that doesn't seem to register with a lot of conservatives.

http://www.raisetheminimumwage.com/pages/job-loss
 

JL A. (276)
Monday March 18, 2013, 6:13 pm
You cannot currently send a star to Bryan because you have done so within the last day.
 

JL A. (276)
Monday March 18, 2013, 8:07 pm
For how Elizabeth Warren factually debunks the mythical basis of GOP talking points on minimum wage:
http://www.care2.com/news/member/864072146/3549607
 

Robert K. (31)
Tuesday March 19, 2013, 1:36 pm
Excuse me, if you do your research what you will find is that the places with the highest minimum wage are also the places with the healthiest economies.
 

Jae A. (321)
Tuesday March 19, 2013, 1:53 pm
Here is someone who has done the research....has the facts and knows what she is talking,unlike ...say like that of ........Diane O. in my opinion.

izabeth Warren: Minimum Wage Would Be $22 An Hour If It Had Kept Up With Productivity
http://www.care2.com/news/member/775377582/3549735

Elizabeth Warren Debunks GOP Talking Points on Minimum Wage
http://www.care2.com/news/member/864072146/3549607


 
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