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Ancient Spider Rock Art Sparks Archaeological Mystery


Science & Tech  (tags: archaeology, discovery, study, world, Egypt, panel, spider rock art, interesting )

Giana
- 281 days ago - news.yahoo.com
Archaeologists have discovered a panel containing the only known example of spider rock art in Egypt and, it appears, the entire Old World.



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Evelyn B. (44)
Monday December 23, 2013, 2:27 am
Very interesting! Have to take the experts' word that these are spiders, though!
 

Theodore Shayne (56)
Monday December 23, 2013, 9:20 am
Hmmmm.....
 

Roger Garin-michaud (63)
Monday December 23, 2013, 1:34 pm
noted, thanks
 

Kara C. (15)
Monday December 23, 2013, 6:25 pm
Interesting stuff but looks more like scratches then spiders to me.
 

Dale O. (190)
Monday December 23, 2013, 9:11 pm
Fascinating. The one in the circle does have that spider like look to them, reminds me of a few visitors on my ceiling during the summer time.
 

Helen Porter (40)
Monday December 23, 2013, 9:40 pm
The captivating beauty of mystery.....
 

Lona Goudswaard (71)
Monday December 23, 2013, 10:05 pm
Very interesting and certainly very old, but spiders? No one is ever going to be able to verify that, so it'll always remain just a guess.
 

Jonathan Harper (0)
Tuesday December 24, 2013, 4:21 am
interesting
 

John Gregoire (255)
Tuesday December 24, 2013, 4:48 am
you are on a roll Giana -great posts! Thank you and Merry Christmas.
 

Lloyd H. (46)
Tuesday December 24, 2013, 6:50 am
Interesting, but not accurate. The oldest known spider art that I know of predates the above and Stonehenge by at least 6,000 years and makes this and Stonehenge look like kindergarten projects. Gobekli Tempe, South Eastern Anatolia in Turkey dates from 10-12,000 BCE that is 12-14,000 years old. Archeologists are being forced to rewrite the history of construction, religion, society, and the rise of civilization as it has been viewed. And the Neolithic art at Gobekli Tempe does not require any guess work as to what is depicted. Klaus Schmidt began excavation in 1994 and as of today says there is at least 50 years of work left to sort out all of the layers then the work of understanding what it was built for and by whom can go forward. Even the newer levels predate the agricultural revolution and cities as we understand them.
Yes I do get excited by archeology and ancient history. Look it up it might just blow your mind.
 

Winn Adams (192)
Tuesday December 24, 2013, 7:13 am
Interesting, thanks.
 

Pogle S. (88)
Tuesday December 24, 2013, 9:42 am
Curious and fascinating! Lloyd H has made a great comment. I must go look that one up!
 

Kerrie G. (135)
Wednesday December 25, 2013, 1:58 am
Noted, thanks.
 

BMutiny TCorporationsEvil (467)
Wednesday December 25, 2013, 8:18 pm
To me it looks more like a map, or some sort of counting or measuring system. The ancients needed ways to keep track of Time, for example, to know about growing seasons and seasons when the animals they hunted would be migrating. It was a matter of life and death, eating or not eating.

Actually to get a clearer view the photo would have to be "enhanced". But I see more Abstractions than something "in nature" portrayed. Our "primitive" ancestors were quite capable of Abstract Thought, and even of Mathematics. As, it turns out, are also many of the non-Human beings we share the Planet with.

The "several parallel lines" design has also been found in Cave Art in Europe. At first, archeologists thought that represented a "trap" for animals. Later {mathematical} research linked the lines, their placement and number, with phases of the Moon and the Stars... very clearly visible, of course, during nights in the desert...
 

BMutiny TCorporationsEvil (467)
Wednesday December 25, 2013, 8:33 pm
Other "lines" in very early and "Primitive" art, have been found eventually to actually be quite Abstract and geometric drawings of Plants, that were important to the people at that time.

Other "lines" represented the Menstrual Cycle of Women, linked to the Moon Cycles {and, of course, Fertility}.
Some seemed to be "sky maps" at certain seasons. Others seem to represent counting symbols, and even very, very early symbolic written Language!
Those "round" things, with "rays" going out, could be Suns, or Stars, or Women's Vaginas....

I think if those early people wanted to make "spiders", they could have made very realistic unmistakable ones! On the other hand, those "line carvings" could have been the bases of PAINTINGS, which, if the paint had only lasted all these Millenia!, might indeed have been more realistic-looking depictions of Nature.

Lloyd, thank you for telling people about Gobekli Tempe. That is indeed the SPECTACULAR archeological discovery of this era!
 

Suzanne L. (155)
Thursday December 26, 2013, 10:00 pm
Thanks for posting Giana. It was hard for me to get a good take on the panel but I did see what might be spiders in a couple of figures that looked like orbs with legs. The parallel lines were interesting because most of the "combs" had 7 lines - a week? a menstrual period? something completely unrelated? Like others I will look up the reference that Lloyd H. commented about. All thought-provoking stuff.
 

BMutiny TCorporationsEvil (467)
Saturday December 28, 2013, 2:48 pm
A "week" is of course a time-frame completely artificial and arbitrary - unlike a day, or a "month", a WORD which is derived from "moon cycles of 28point something days. {I think, don't hold me to that number of days!}
A "Year" is of course not arbitrary, but depends on the sun; but "seasons" depend on the place and climate - "wet" and "dry" seasons, for example.

When seeing the parallel lines, we don't really know whether to count the LINES as important, or the SPACES BETWEEN THE LINES as important - or maybe both, or neither! The REPETITION of the identical figure, tho, must be important. Also, the spacing of the lines with regard to relative placement of each group, has probably some significance - maybe.
What is CERTAIN, is, that these guys didn't "doodle". Each element in Nature was Sacred - and if they were going to mess with Nature to the extent of daring to add lines, symbols, figures, etc. to a rock - that had to be Sacred, too.

It isn't clear, but possibly those "round things" are natural depressions in the rock made by Nature - and that suggested a "figure" already in the rock, only to be "brought out" by adding lines to make it clearer that this was a Sun, Star, Sacred Spider, Sacred Woman's Vagina, or whatever they conceived the roundish hole or depression to suggest...
 

Melania Padilla (179)
Thursday January 9, 2014, 1:35 pm
If it is real then it is cool!!!
 
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