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Geithner Hints Dems Will Move Ahead On Health Care Without Republican Support - If They Must

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When I think of how much the Bush administration shoved down the country's throat on strictly partisan votes, it makes me crazy when Democrats start talking about being bipartisan. This kind of talk by Tim Geithner on This Week with Geo. Stephanopoulous

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Blue Bunting (855)
Monday August 3, 2009, 5:34 pm
When I think of how much the Bush administration shoved down the country's throat on strictly partisan votes, it makes me crazy when Democrats start talking about being bipartisan. This kind of talk by Tim Geithner on This Week with George Stephanopoulous is more like it:

STEPHANOPOULOS: Let me ask you about health care. The negotiations seem to stall out in the Senate, they are going to try to come back by Sept 15th. The House committees have all passed the bill. One of the things that, Senator Grassley, we just saw, is asking about is that he says he wants some assurance, some guarantees really, that whatever deal, if they strike a deal, a bipartisan deal in the Senate finance committee it's going to hold all the way through the process. The Senate floor, the House floor, the conference committee, can the administration give him that assurance?

GEITHNER: I think that is what every legislator wants. They want that to be of confidence.

STEPHANOPOULOS: They are not going to get it through?

GEITHNER: You know, (chuckles), we want to have an outcome that meets these core principles the President laid out. Which is we want to make sure that we're doing something that is going to reduce the growth in cost over the long term, expand access, improve the quality of care. Do that in a fiscally responsible way that does not increase, increase unduly the burden on average Americans today. That's the basic test. And we're going to try to make sure that we achieve that with the broadest consensus as possible.

STEPHANOPOULOS: You want broad consensus but Senator Grassley, his colleague Senator Enzi are saying that they need those assurances, that can't get them?

GEITHNER: Well again, you know (laughs) we want to make sure we get this done. And we're gonna- as the President's said, we're going to look at anything reasonable, consistent with those principles that's going to get this done.

STEPHANOPOULOS: You want it to be through consensus, the President has said he wants a bipartisan bill if possible, but do you believe it is possible if necessary to get meaningful health care reform with democrats only?

GEITHNER: George, I think that again this is a big consequential reform of the country. And as many people observes, ideally you want to do this with as broad a base of consensus as possible. But people on the hill are going to have to make that choice, do they want to help shape this and be part of it. Or do they want this country, the United States of America, to go another several decades without doing whatever other serious country has done, which is to give their citizens access to basic quality of care.

STEPHANOPOULOS: But if Republicans can't come to an agreement with the democrats are the Democrats and the White House willing to go it to alone?

GEITHNER: George, again, we're going to try and get this done on the best possible terms consistent with those principles. Can't tell you what it's going to take. But you see what the President is trying to do.

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Roseann d (178)
Monday August 3, 2009, 9:28 pm
Who cares what that washed up party has to say. Irrelevant, obsolete, and good for nothin' Get on board or get run over already!

Roseann d (178)
Monday August 3, 2009, 10:18 pm
It's a pretty "sick" system that someone gets to profit off of people's life-threatening illnesses or even a broken bone. Healthcare should be a service, a basic right, NOT a "for profit" venture that looks at patients as consumers like that new emerging NUT from the Repub side Pawlenty purports. Human exploitation from the Repubs as usual.

Blue Bunting (855)
Monday August 3, 2009, 11:10 pm
So, thanks to Rep. Anthony Weiner (D-NY), Speaker Pelosi says she will bring a vote to the floor on single-payer after the recess. Are you all ready to make those phone calls and write those letters?

Nancy's contact info..
Send our speaker an e-mail of encouragement.


Blue Bunting (855)
Tuesday August 4, 2009, 1:28 pm
White House takes on Drudge, slams healthcare 'scare'

Blue Bunting (855)
Tuesday August 4, 2009, 2:53 pm
* The Democratic National Committee released a pretty hard-hitting statement this afternoon, slamming Republicans for "inciting angry mobs" or "rabid right-wing extremists."

* On a related note, "Town Halls Gone Wild" continued today in a variety of locations.

* CBS News offers a good example of how not to report on the right-wing harassment strategy.

* Rep. Lloyd Doggett (D) of Texas hasn't changed his mind
at all after his run-in with a right-wing mob: "I am more committed
than ever to win approval of legislation to offer more individual
choice to access affordable health care. An effective public plan is
essential to achieve that goal."

* What's more, Doggett told CNN
today, "I'll tell you, unless more Americans who are suffering under
the insurance companies get out there and express their opinion, write
their letter to the editor, call these talk shows -- if they don't get
their message out the insurance companies will win in September and we
just cannot let that happen."

* HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius reminds folks of "the reason we're even having this conversation" about reform in a WaPo op-ed.

* Nice to see Blue Dog Rep. Mike Ross (D-Ark.) have a few unkind words about George W. Bush and health care today.

Blue Bunting (855)
Wednesday August 5, 2009, 12:59 pm
Tales from the Lobotomy Ward: The Stupidest Republican Talking Point I've Heard in a Long Time

It's moronic for conservatives to believe that they will derail a proposed universal health care system by likening it to a program whose only problem is that the public loves it far too much.

Blue Bunting (855)
Wednesday August 5, 2009, 1:08 pm

The Ugly Racism of the Right Will Be Their Undoing

Every day it gets harder to think of the whiny Republican hate speech as sheer coincidence. Instead, it's beginning to look inevitable -- so much so that maybe the real question is, What is it about health care that brings out the latent racism in the GOP?

Blue Bunting (855)
Wednesday August 5, 2009, 10:10 pm
Grassley Uses Kennedy's Brain Tumor To Spread Fear Of Rationing

Blue Bunting (855)
Wednesday August 5, 2009, 10:39 pm
Steele Distances Himself From Town Hall Mobs: ‘We’re Not Encouraging People To Be Angry’

Boehner Cheers Townhall Shout-Downs
House Minority Leader John Boehner's office has chimed in cheering on the campaign.

Blue Bunting (855)
Thursday August 6, 2009, 3:01 pm
Contrary to Steele’s Claim, State Republicans Are Actively Promoting Town Hall Mobs and Violence

Blue Bunting (855)
Thursday August 6, 2009, 10:51 pm

Republican Teabaggers yell "Kill Your Parents" at Monday's Health Care town hall with Rep. Steve Driehaus (D-OH)

Blue Bunting (855)
Thursday August 6, 2009, 11:25 pm
Fox News' Glenn Beck's Republican fans turn health forum into 'near riot'

Blue Bunting (855)
Friday August 7, 2009, 3:55 am

Right-Wing Turncoat Gives the Inside Scoop on How the GOP Is Screwing Its Healthcare Baby

The GOP is willing to disrupt the health care debate if they can't win it. Yesterday in Tampa, a mob of Glenn Beck supporters nearly caused a riot. The Republican is an uncaring idiot who cares for no one but itself? To hell with the guy in the street!

Blue Bunting (855)
Friday August 7, 2009, 6:28 am

SICK FOR PROFIT : Fight Back Against Health Insurance Lies
The Democrats should've launched this campaign six months ago, easy. Take a look at what you're fighting for, teabaggers.

Blue Bunting (855)
Friday August 7, 2009, 1:36 pm
Anti-Reform Group Takes Credit For Helping Gin Up Town Hall Rallies

Conservatives for Patients’ Rights, the operation that’s running a national campaign against a public health care option, is now publicly taking credit for helping gin up the sometimes-rowdy outbursts targeting House Dems at town hall meetings around the country, raising questions about their

CPR is the group headed by controversial former hospitals exec Rick Scott that’s spending millions on ads attacking reform in all sorts of lurid ways, a campaign that’s being handled by the same P.R. mavens behind the Swift Boat Vets.

In response to my questions, a spokesman for the group confirmed that it has undertaken a concerted effort to get people out to the town hall meetings to protest reform. The spokesperson, Brian Burgess,
confirmed that CPR is emailing out “town hall alert” flyers, and schedules of town hall meetings, to its mailing list.

These efforts — combined with CPR’s effort to enlist Tea Party-ers, as reported yesterday by TPM — provide a glimpse into the ways anti-reform groups are trying to create a sense of public momentum in their favor.

CPR spokesman Burgess confirmed that the group had set up a list serv designed to reach out to “third party groups” involved in the health care fight, including the Tea Party activists. And in a statement emailed to me, Scott, who was ousted as a health-care exec amid a 1990s fraud probe, took credit for the town hall showings.

“We have invested a lot of time, energy and resources into educating Americans over the past several months about the dangers of government-run health care and I think we’re seeing some of the fruits of that campaign,” Scott said, though he claimed outrage was spontaneous.

Similarly, America’s Health Insurance Plans, or AHIP, the insurance industry group, has stationed employees in 30 states to track local town hall events.

The question is whether these uprisings are actually helpful to the anti-reform cause, or whether their raucus agitprop will work againt them. Dems have blasted out to reporters examples of protestors harrassing House Dems.

“The more you dig the more you learn that this is a carefully orchestrated effort by special interest lobbyists and the Republican Party, who are using fringe elements on the right to protect insurance company profits and defeat health care reform,” said House Dem leadership aide Doug Thornell. “The anger at these events looks very similar to what we saw at McCain/Palin rallies in the fall.”


Update: The White House attacks CPR for manufacturing anger.

This blog’s homepage is here.

Posted by Greg Sargent | 08/04/2009, 12:12 PM EST | Categories: House Dems, health care, political advertising

Blue Bunting (855)
Saturday August 8, 2009, 8:32 am
You Do Not Have Health Insurance
The Baseline Scenario: "Right now, it appears that the biggest barrier to health care reform is people who think that it will hurt them. According to a New York Times poll, '69 percent of respondents in the poll said they were concerned that the quality of their own care would decline if the government created a program that covers everyone.'

Since most Americans currently have health insurance, they see reform as a poverty program - something that helps poor people and hurts them.

If that's what you think, then this post is for you. You do not have health insurance.

Let me repeat that. You do not have health insurance. (Unless you are over 65, in which case you do have health insurance. I'll come back to that later.)"

Blue Bunting (855)
Saturday August 8, 2009, 11:52 am
Michael Moore's health care documentary 'Sicko' can be viewed online in its entirety here.(Hat tip to 'citisven' at Daily Kos.)

Blue Bunting (855)
Monday August 10, 2009, 6:32 pm

$1.2 TRILLION WASTED : The 6 Biggest Ways Our Health Care System Throws Away Money

More than $1.2 trillion spent on health care each year is a waste of money. That's half of the $2.2 trillion the USA spends on health care each year, according to the most recent data from accounting firm PricewaterhouseCoopers' Health Research Institute

Blue Bunting (855)
Wednesday August 12, 2009, 10:23 am
Whistleblower: Insurance firms behind town hall disruptions
Man arrested at Obama event had loaded gunHeld in police custody; was also carrying pocket knife...
Stewart recalls conservative attacks on anti-war protesters

Blue Bunting (855)
Wednesday August 12, 2009, 11:43 am

Health Insurance Reform Reality Check
Get the facts about the stability and security you get from health insurance reform instead of listening to industry and right wing hype.

* Nice work from the LA Times fact-checking common health care claims. (thanks to reader T.C. for the tip)

For some factual info on Health Care Reform go to:

The only way to fight this is with facts

Blue Bunting (855)
Wednesday August 12, 2009, 3:01 pm

Professor Stephen Hawking Enters U.S. Health Care Debate
"I wouldn't be here today if it were not for the National Health Service," he told The Guardian. "I have received a large amount of high-quality treatment without which I would not have survived.

Blue Bunting (855)
Sunday August 16, 2009, 12:54 pm
The argument over which system is better at this point is like arguing whether or not global warming is real and human caused. Everyone knows the answer, but some people can turn a profit by denying it.

Who, in the eyes of Canadians, is THE most popular Canadian? Tommy Douglas, the father of the Canadian Medicare System. Watch this video.

(Also posted at

Remember, Canada didn't get UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE all at once; it happened Province by Province nd the government could no longer deny Canadians the health care they demanded.

Blue Bunting (855)
Sunday August 16, 2009, 2:26 pm
The brutal truth about America's healthcare vs Stephen Hawking, who said, "I wouldn't be here today if it were not for the NHS. I have received a large amount of high-quality treatment without which I would not have survived.." And a student who suddenly found himself unable to move and had to be supported by his wife would not have been able to get that sort of care in the United States at all, let alone be kept alive and allowed the time to think that made it possible for him to become *the* Stephen Hawking.

Blue Bunting (855)
Sunday August 16, 2009, 4:36 pm

Blue Bunting (855)
Monday August 17, 2009, 11:13 am
Krugman: All That Stands In Way Of Universal Health Care Is Greed, Lies And Gullibility

Howard Dean On Public Option: "You Can't Really Do Health Reform Without It"

Blue Bunting (855)
Thursday August 27, 2009, 8:33 am
McCain Evicts Angry Woman From Town Hall

Blue Bunting (855)
Thursday August 27, 2009, 9:53 am
McCain jokes about taking hundreds of thousands from healthcare lobby

Blue Bunting (855)
Wednesday September 2, 2009, 10:26 am

Who Will Be Hurt if the Democrats Pass Health Care Alone
If the Democrats pass the health care bill, and are able to do it with a public option, the Republicans will have once again put themselves on the opposing side of groundbreaking legislation.

Blue Bunting (855)
Wednesday September 2, 2009, 5:54 pm
When it comes to healthcare, there is no lie a conservative will not tell.

Blue Bunting (855)
Thursday September 3, 2009, 9:56 pm
Why Health Insurance Reform Will Pass This Fall -- It's the High Political Ground

Health insurance reform represents the high political ground for four major reasons:

1). Most Americans - including swing voters - can't stand the health insurance industry. As Congress reconvenes, the Administration and its allies will unleash a major drive to correctly define the battle as a contest between the interests of private health insurance companies and ordinary Americans. Health Care for America Now (HCAN), the big coalition of progressive organizations and Labor, will put it this way: If the insurance companies win, you lose. ....

2). The Obama Administration will use every ounce of its political capital to win this battle. The President and his top advisors understand that -- when it comes to health care -- failure is simply not an option. They know that defeat on health care would be a huge blow to the President's ability to pass his entire agenda and his own standing with the voters. People follow successful leaders - not those who fail.

As a result, the President will use every bit of his charm, his persuasive ability and the formidable powers of the Presidency to secure the votes to win.

And make no mistake. While Barack Obama would prefer a bi-partisan bill passed through the regular order with broad consensus, he has an iron will and will pass a bill by one vote using special budget procedures if that is necessary to win. He is a huge fan of Lincoln's Team of Rivals, but in matters of legislation his model is Lyndon Johnson.

Anyone who doubts the strength of his resolve - or his resourcefulness - doesn't yet understand Barack Obama.

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