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Emperor penguins,whose long treks across Antarctic ice to mate have been immortalised by Hollywood,are heading towards extinction,scientists say.Based on predictions of sea ice extent from climate change models the penguins are likely to see their number

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Joycey B (750)
Tuesday January 27, 2009, 7:25 pm
This is so heartbreaking. Sadly noted. Thanks Thunderr.

Judy Cross (83)
Tuesday January 27, 2009, 8:41 pm
It's only a climate has no reality whatsoever!

The Antarctic is as cold as it ever was and a little warming might be very welcome to the Emperors given the -50 C average winter temperature.(-58F)

Modellers Remove Evidence of Cooling and Editor Removes Comment by Climate Sceptic

WITHIN the scientific community it has generally been accepted that as a continent, Antarctica, has been getting colder – or at least not warming. Those who subscribe to the general consensus that climate change is driven by manmade carbon dioxide emissions, and that the world is generally getting warmer, have claimed this is not inconsistent with their greenhouse gas theory or the United Nation’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) models. They have explained that Antarctica is a general exception to the global trend because of a loss of ozone in the polar stratosphere. [1]

When communicating with the general public, however, some high profile scientists, including from the CSIRO, have been so bold as to falsely claim even the Antarctic is warming. Perhaps because they wanted to avoid appearing inconsistent or having to explain such an annoying exception to the generally accepted global warming trend over the last 100 or so years. [2]

Now the prestigious journal Nature has published an article explaining that the Antarctic has been generally warming and at about the same rate as the rest of the planet. [3] This news made the cover of the latest issue of the journal with a dramatic graphic illustration of the new reconstruction of Antarctic surface temperature trends for 1957–2006.

One of the authors of the new paper, Michael Mann, director of the Earth System Science Center at Pennsylvania State University, has explained that he is pleased that the previous inconvenience of a cooling trend in Antarctica can now be dismissed. Indeed he now has a paper published in the prestigous and peer-reviewed journal Nature claiming as much. But this does not necessarily make it true.

Dr Mann is famous for managing to falsely recreate past temperatures so they accord with the popular global warming consensus. Indeed Dr Mann is responsible for the infamous hockey-stick graph that suggested the medieval warm period did not exist.

In this new study Dr Mann and others have combined incomplete data from both satellites and weather stations with some complicated statistics to generate a model of climate for the continent for the period 1957-2006.

Bill Kininmonth, formerly of the Australian Bureau of Meteorology, was interviewed on Australian national radio as part of a segment on the new findings. Mr Kininmonth explained that there has been no reduction in the cycle of Antarctic sea ice and that he was generally sceptical that the west Antarctic ice sheet was likely to melt – a claim made earlier in the segment by Dr Barry Brook from Adelaide University.

In apparent contravention of ABC Broadcasting principles, the comment from Mr Kininmonth has been expunged from the transcript and the podcast. [4]

It seems computer models can remove evidence of cooling and editors can remove comment from climate change sceptics – but of course the truth does not cease to exist because it is ignored.

. (0)
Tuesday January 27, 2009, 8:45 pm
This is tragic but it is also misleading in that it blames global warming when in fact it is the expanding ice pack that is causing the problem. The Emperor penguins have to make longer treks as the winter sea ice extends further out and the areas they once searched for food in are now covered in ice during the winter.

Lori Werner (7)
Thursday January 29, 2009, 5:12 pm
Global warming has influenced and altered weather patterns around the globe. Normal weather patterns are being altered everywhere around the globe, some areas experience greater rainfall, less rainfall, and temperature extremes, hot and cold, that have never been seen before in modern history. Global warming can lead to an increase in the ice pack, in this case affecting penguins, and has already led to the decrease of ice packs affecting polar bears. In this case, it is unlikely the ice pack would be expanding of it's own accord, something has triggered that expansion, and is most likely global warming.

Judy Cross (83)
Thursday January 29, 2009, 5:21 pm
Lori, it stopped warming 10 years ago and started cooling in 2002. The Arctic warmed in 1922, so what happened recently was not unique. It is a cycle that we are just beginning to understand. In the meantime the Antarctic continues cold and colder at around -50C.

It's a scam, my dear.

serge vrabec (278)
Thursday January 29, 2009, 6:05 pm
The penguins WILL survive as long as we do, lets not be afraid, like some folks with their head nestled comfortably in the sand,and keep taking bthe actions and responsibility that is starting to turn the tide. WE ARE6 making a difference and are not afraid. Thank you my brother wolf!

P.S.- Those Happy feet are still dancing, lol......

. (0)
Thursday January 29, 2009, 9:05 pm
Lori, you need to take a look at a recent satellite image of the Arctic ice pack. It has recovered to 1979 levels in just the last two winters. Explain to me how global warming allows ice to increase in both the Antarctic and Arctic.

You are right Serge, they will survive and so will the expanding population of polar bears.

Chris Otahal (507)
Friday January 30, 2009, 12:27 am
and Ralph and Judy - you both need to read more than what is presented on your denialist sites LOL

Antarctica is cooling/gaining ice

The skeptic argument...The amount of ice surrounding Antarctica is now at the highest level ever measured for this time of the year, since satellites first began to monitor it almost 30 years ago. All of the IPCC’s models of Antarctica in the twenty-first century forecast a gain in ice, as a warmer surrounding ocean evaporates more water, which subsequently falls in the form of snow when it hits the continent. Other studies, such as Peter Doran’s in Nature in 2003, show actual cooling in recent decades. It’s simply too cold for rain in Antarctica, and it’ll stay that way for a very long time. The bottom line is that there is more ice than ever surrounding Antarctica (source: Patrick Michaels).

What the science says...

Antarctic cooling is a uniquely regional phenomenon. In fact, the case of Antartica cooling is a great case study on how the media and global warming skeptics seize upon a study and interpret it inappropriately. The original study observed regional cooling in east Antarctica. The hole in the ozone layer above the South Pole causes cooling in the stratosphere. This increased circular winds around the continent preventing warmer air from reaching east Antarctica and the Antarctic plateau. The flip side of this is the Antarctic Peninsula has "experienced some of the fastest warming on Earth, nearly 3°C over the last half-century".

While East Antartica is gaining ice due to increased precipitation, Antartica is overall losing ice. This is mostly due to melting in West Antarctica which recently featured the largest melting observed by satellites in the last 30 years. As well as melting, Antartic glaciers are accelerating further adding to sea level rise.

Climate myths: Antarctica is getting cooler, not warmer, disproving global warming

"Lori, it stopped warming 10 years ago and started cooling in 2002."

Still ignoring the 30-year and 100-year trends shoing a WARMING trend I see - and using the same cherry picked data to show a "cooling trend"? (the "cooling trend is caused by a SINGLE cool year in 2008, which is WAEATHER VARIABILITY, not CLIMATE - you still don't understand that concept either Judy)...

"Lori, you need to take a look at a recent satellite image of the Arctic ice pack. It has recovered to 1979 levels in just the last two winters."

obviously you have not seen the data and are making things up again Ralph - here are the data for the artic sea ice extent:

There were SLIGHT INCREASES in extent in 2008 and 2009 but certainly not back to 1979 levels as you claim!!!! There was a SLIGHT recovery in those years due to WEATHER VARIABILITY....

Past Member (0)
Friday January 30, 2009, 5:45 am
Sad ...all because human are playing with mother nature ...there is no place for animals to live...penguins...rattle snake....and many more....facing extinction...people should try to reduce the rate of global that this animals..can stay and seen by our kids in the future..


Lori Werner (7)
Friday January 30, 2009, 12:07 pm
Chris, thank you, I know you are right on with what you say. My own investigation into this matter found the same results. It's amazing how people can argue that cooling can't be a result of global warming, and then focus only on aspects which support their point of view.

Certainly while we know cooling and warming trends have occurred throughout the history of the Earth, why can't people seem to get it through their heads that human actions are at the very least contributing to this current cycle of global warming.

Dale Husband (123)
Friday January 30, 2009, 8:46 pm
"It's only a climate has no reality whatsoever!"

That's as ignorant as saying "Evolution is only a has no reality whatsoever!" But the physical and chemical laws that are the basis of the climate models are indeed real, so that knocks out that claim immediately. Next fallacy....

"The Antarctic is as cold as it ever was and a little warming might be very welcome to the Emperors given the -50 C average winter temperature.(-58F)"

That's a half truth. Yes, Antarctica is still extremely cold, but if we do not stop global warming, eventually the continent will warm up like the rest of the Earth has. The article specifically says the penguin populations will plummet by 2100. That's over 90 years from now. Knowledge of the laws of chemistry and physics enable such predictions. Plus, Emperor penguins are highly adapted to the cold and would be at a serious disadvantage if Antarctica warmed up over the next century or so. Assuming that warming would benefit them is just plain ignorance. Would deserts animals sutomatically benefit from lots of rain in their habitat? No, most of them would DIE OUT!

And Judy misleads some more: "it stopped warming 10 years ago and started cooling in 2002."

WRONG! It NEVER stopped warming and any "cooling" can only be said to have begun in 2006 (because of the Sun's activity dropping), and it is not nearly as much as the warming over the past several decades (caused by human CO2 emissions).

"The Arctic warmed in 1922, so what happened recently was not unique."

Non-sequintur! The industrial revolution and its dramatic increase in greenhouse gas emissions by human civilization began long before 1922. LOL!!!

"It is a cycle that we are just beginning to understand. In the meantime the Antarctic continues cold and colder at around -50C. It's a scam, my dear."

We make a careful distinction between natural cycles and what's been happening since the mid-20th Century. And we DO know enough to tell the difference. The claim about a scam is an outright lie, of course. Repeating that lie a bazillion times will not make it true.

"you need to take a look at a recent satellite image of the Arctic ice pack. It has recovered to 1979 levels in just the last two winters. Explain to me how global warming allows ice to increase in both the Antarctic and Arctic."

Ralph, that is total B S. The SUMMER ice cap proportions have still shrunk greatly since 1979. Don't be trying to trick anyone with cherry-picks like that again! Any ice that increases during the winter months of a global warming phase will be weaker than the ice that is there constantly throughout the summer months, which will continue to shrink during global warming. So each year, the ice cap, whatever its winter size, will melt FASTER in the summer! And if it disappears completely in the summer, the winter proportions will be irrelevant. Polar bears hunt seals in the SUMMER months and hibernate in the winter!

My God, some people just don't get it!

Lori Werner (7)
Friday January 30, 2009, 10:58 pm
Dale, nicely said!

Judy Cross (83)
Thursday February 12, 2009, 10:57 am
Oh, yes, Dale writes very's just that he's usually wrong. He should take up writing SciFi.

Rapid growth spurt leaves amount of ice at levels seen 29 years ago.

Thanks to a rapid rebound in recent months, global sea ice levels now equal those seen 29 years ago, when the year 1979 also drew to a close.

Ice levels had been tracking lower throughout much of 2008, but rapidly recovered in the last quarter. In fact, the rate of increase from September onward is the fastest rate of change on record, either upwards or downwards.

The data is being reported by the University of Illinois's Arctic Climate Research Center, and is derived from satellite observations of the Northern and Southern hemisphere polar regions.

Each year, millions of square kilometers of sea ice melt and refreeze. However, the mean ice anomaly -- defined as the seasonally-adjusted difference between the current value and the average from 1979-2000, varies much more slowly. That anomaly now stands at just under zero, a value identical to one recorded at the end of 1979, the year satellite record-keeping began.

Sea ice is floating and, unlike the massive ice sheets anchored to bedrock in Greenland and Antarctica, doesn't affect ocean levels. However, due to its transient nature, sea ice responds much faster to changes in temperature or precipitation and is therefore a useful barometer of changing conditions.

Earlier this year, predictions were rife that the North Pole could melt entirely in 2008. Instead, the Arctic ice saw a substantial recovery. Bill Chapman, a researcher with the UIUC's Arctic Center, tells DailyTech this was due in part to colder temperatures in the region. Chapman says wind patterns have also been weaker this year. Strong winds can slow ice formation as well as forcing ice into warmer waters where it will melt.

Why were predictions so wrong? Researchers had expected the newer sea ice, which is thinner, to be less resilient and melt easier. Instead, the thinner ice had less snow cover to insulate it from the bitterly cold air, and therefore grew much faster than expected, according to the National Snow and Ice Data Center.

In May, concerns over disappearing sea ice led the U.S. to officially list the polar bear a threatened species, over objections from experts who claimed the animal's numbers were increasing.

Judy Cross (83)
Thursday February 12, 2009, 11:05 am
BTW, penguins live in the why is the Arctic ice level...summer or winter, even being discussed?

Chris Otahal (507)
Thursday February 12, 2009, 11:15 am
Since when have YOU EVER stayed on topic Judy LMAO ... and you know that article you just posted is a lie - but you continue to IGNORE the REAL data that shows you are wrong ...

"Thanks to a rapid rebound in recent months, global sea ice levels now equal those seen 29 years ago, when the year 1979 also drew to a close."

That is a repeated PURE BULL statement you keep repeating. Here are the data from the National Snow and Ice Data Center:

In particular, look at the current conditions:

The current conditions are NO WHERE CLOSE to 1979 levels - it is way below the 1979-2000 average. In fact it is very close to the conditions found in 2006-2007 which was the lowest leves of artic sea ice in 100 YEARS. You have seen all this before, yet you persistm in repeating the sam dissinformation! You activity goes well beyound "erros" and borders on ACTIVE FRAUD!!!!
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