Tuesday April 17, 2012, 11:41 am
Get more out of yourl smartphone than you ever thought you could. Document a revolution or Big Brother, we are watching youL

Tuesday April 17, 2012, 12:14 pm
`We live in a world where the people capture and distribute visual proof directly back to the people`` Indeed we do. Thank you for reminding us just how powerful we the people are. Very interesting film.

Tuesday April 17, 2012, 12:23 pm
It's very true.

Videos helped us expose the fact that the blackblock posing as violent protesters at the G20 in Toronto were actually cops in disguise.

Someone caught a video of two officers changing into blackblock uniforms and somebody caught the fact that they had the exact same pants and shoes on while they were coming into the crowd under a black tarp.

Unfortunately, nothing really got done about it seeing as Harper wouldn't allow a full public inquiry to go forward in time, but there are lots of incidents where it really pays off to get proof of the act.
Most of the scandals we hear about would never see the light of day if it weren't for the cameras in phones.

If you don't have proof, you don't have a viable story
so the lesson is
take videos when you see it happening!

Tuesday April 17, 2012, 12:38 pm
Very helpful, but very sad for a grandmother in her late 60's to realize that we are going back to the 60's & 70's to document the horrors that are happening in the United States, the best country in the world; the United States, the home of the brave and free. When I was young, I thought we would fight the battle and win, and that it would become unacceptable for police to attack peaceful protesters. And now, it's happening again! Kent State was repeated last year when the police attacked protesters in Oakland with clubs and gas. Sad, we have to change this; we need to elect people who are more tolerant. In other words, we need more democrats and independents.

Tuesday April 17, 2012, 1:14 pm
noted

Tuesday April 17, 2012, 1:17 pm
Noted...

Tuesday April 17, 2012, 1:25 pm
Noted. Super idea. The 'establishment ' do not like the light of publcity. Thanks Beek.

Tuesday April 17, 2012, 1:25 pm
Nancy, you are so right, we are fighting the 60's fight again.

Cam, an I-phone or mobile telephone with many functions: motion picture recorder, still camera, scientific calculator, calendar, GPS device, memory storage for such personal things as a recipe book or ice hockey statistics.

Tuesday April 17, 2012, 1:32 pm
Thank you, Craig. If I still had my bee hives, I would "Occupy" them by filming them and putting the video on YouTube, Care 2, etc. You grow some beautiful produce from the lovely photos on your profile. I think sharing photos and films about how we are getting less ensnared by their system is revolutionary. I am sure they hate those who rely little of their traps.

Tuesday April 17, 2012, 1:34 pm
thanks

Tuesday April 17, 2012, 1:38 pm
Cam, since I was a commercial honey producer, I love "You catch far more flies with honey than you do with violence". Problem is that our lawmakers are shills of the banking plutocracy and they no longer obey "we the people". They continue to make laws that sell us into deeper and deeper taxpayer funded ruin, I am sure you do not approve of that. No patriotic citizen can obey 80% of the laws made since 2008.

Tuesday April 17, 2012, 2:00 pm
interesting, thanks

Tuesday April 17, 2012, 3:24 pm
Some people have to work at being blind, deaf & dumb - some people are born RepubliCON...
We MUST watch the watchers & record the Facts that FAUX "News" won't tell or show you!

Tuesday April 17, 2012, 3:30 pm
Now days you have to cover your back in anything cause you have too many back stabbers out there. The 99% are to smart for the 1% and they envy us with fear. Don't know why that is since were the peace makers.

Tuesday April 17, 2012, 3:33 pm
If you have GPS on your smart phone, they already know your where abouts when you google for a location. It a tracking device. Also their is a website that you can go to that you can get into anyones cellphone e-mails or text messages. Sneeky but Bogus.

Tuesday April 17, 2012, 4:00 pm
Excellent tutorial. Do they have cellular phones in Canada? If they do... Please film yourself minding your own business!

Tuesday April 17, 2012, 4:12 pm
Terry King you are so irrelevant to what is going on right before your very face.

Tuesday April 17, 2012, 4:37 pm
Cam: My smartphone is a cute little thing. The Anonymous protesters with the face masks have taught me lots of neat things to do with it.

The police, who have arrested over 2,000 Occupy protesters and then did not place any charges against them at arraignment, have wasted my taxpayer money. Why did they make frivolous arrests? They are just trying to be visible to serve the interests of somebody.

Then, at Occupy DC, the Park Police called in a Hazmat Unit to remove the belongings of protesters because Fox News had talked about how dirty the "hippies" have been ever since Viet Nam protests....that would be very dirty. But the Hazmat Unit costs $3,000. which was taken away from the operational costs of all national parks. As a taxpayer, I am outraged.

Ah, the Bank Bailout in 2008. That costs me and my children and my grandchildren $82,000. each. I am really burning about that one. Since our lawmakers now represent the banks and not us, that is taxation without representation...fighting words to the south of you, Cam.

Tuesday April 17, 2012, 4:38 pm
Excellent!

Tuesday April 17, 2012, 5:07 pm
Craig
What the Hell are you talking about?

Tuesday April 17, 2012, 5:24 pm

I think politics in Canada must be very boring. Or is it that the area is so vast compared to the population that they ignore their political situations, while injecting into ours?

I do love that the Smart phones can be used as more then silly stuff on You Tube and wise protesters will learn to use them properly to insure the facts get out.

Thanks for sharing this, Bee.

Tuesday April 17, 2012, 5:46 pm
Thanks Betsy

Tuesday April 17, 2012, 5:48 pm
Thank you, Ms. Bee for this one.

Tuesday April 17, 2012, 5:50 pm
Our politics are different ..... quite different from yours Kit. Boring? I am sure the left thinks so as we have now given the government absolute power to move things forward for us with no more game play. Things are moving along quite nicely here in Canada. Our dollar is strong. Our debt is coming down.

What happens in America affects everyone in the world. It is your currency ours is based on. A weak America benefits no one Kit. Least of all Americans.

We do have the 99% here but they have pulled so many criminal actions they do not have the public sympathies behind them.

Tuesday April 17, 2012, 5:55 pm
Cam, I lived very close to your border for many years, I have friends in your 99%. A person who has commented on this thread is a member of the BC 99%. Could you be more explicit about their many criminal actions? Were there any convictions?

Tuesday April 17, 2012, 6:07 pm
You can read through Wiki to look at what some of the groups did.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupy_Canada

Here in Vancouver they parked their mess in front of the Art Gallery of all places. It really upset a lot of people and brought drug busts and rats into the fray. When they finally broke them up they tried to move it into the front of the Vancouver court house. Public sympathies were not on their side.

Tuesday April 17, 2012, 6:21 pm
A Wiki reference is no reference at all, you or I could have written it. Wiki requires no expertise.

Drugs, rats, your police should have spent thousands on a Hazmet unit to dispose of their waste. Cam, do you need to think people of different political beliefs are inferior to you?

Tuesday April 17, 2012, 6:41 pm
Kit? Could you clarify your comment for me please - "Or is it that the area is so vast compared to the population that they ignore their political situations, while injecting into ours?" I hate making assumptions, and so would like to think that you didn't mean that quite as snottily as it sounded. As an FYI, Canada IS a very large country (much larger than the U.S.A.) but you already knew that. Our two countries share more than one of the largest undefended borders in the world - we also share the infamy of corporations such as Monsanto and others of its ilk. The muchly touted Free Trade Ageement between our nations, very much makes the lunacy infected your country the business of people living in mine. Unfortunately we are living in what might be called a global universe now - and the corruption which seems to be rife in your country does effect me personally. Actually, it occurs that compared to much of the American populace, I and many others I know are probably much more informed about "world events"than the average American. (not meant as a slam - just a fact) We have shaken our heads in stunned amazement at the stupidities being uttered (and inflicted) upon your citizenry - the FDA, the pink slime, the war on women, the arguement about health care - and we are boggled by most of it, and thus the comments. Perhaps, when the topics are meant to be closed to people from other countries from commenting or offering their own personal opinions they could be labelled? Try to remember, that (metaphorically) no country is an island unto itself anymore. Shit does indeed float downstream - and some of us are tired of the stench emanating from yours. Maybe that gives us just as much right to comment as anybody else, no?

Tuesday April 17, 2012, 7:22 pm
I actually do not believe that Bee. I am a fiscal conservative only but very liberal in every other thing. Pro gay marriage - we have it legalized here in Canada on the civil level and left the churches to do as they may. I am proud that we recognized a humans right to live their life with whoever they love. Pro choice - who am I to tell a woman what to do? Lots of things actually but our governments have to stop spending more money than they bring in.

The 99% here never made it clear what their beef was. I even went down to their site and engaged in conversation with them. I cannot make head nor tails out of what it stands for. Equality? What kind of equality? The kind that says I can reach into your pocket and take money out of it so we have the same amount? I do not hold with that kind of thinking.

Free trade agreement - it hurt us Dare ..... would like to see that negated for sure. I never knew until I came to Care 2 how much corporations and their money had their fingers in our governments. I am working hard to change that here but it will take time. So I am willing to learn. I will change my opinion on things if someone makes a good argument for that cause. To block a publicly funded Art Gallery? I have seen the riots that have ensued in America. Cripes we had a very destructive one here over a stooped hockey game.

If we want real change in our countries then we have to take our governments back at the grass roots level. That is the only way we can really bring about change to benefit the many and not the few. No I am no better or worse for that matter than anyone else. I will go out of my way to help someone up that needs it and support taking care of those in our society who will always need our care. But thinking that government is the answer to our problems IS the problem. Yours is not involved in your lives the way mine is here in Canada. For cripes sakes I have a problem understanding your free speech there. Some of what is said in these very threads could be deemed polically incorrect or racist etc. and get me arrested or sued here in Canada. Is that the kind of society you want in America?

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Tuesday April 17, 2012, 8:47 pm
Noted, thanks.

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Tuesday April 17, 2012, 9:40 pm
"Videos helped us expose the fact that the blackblock posing as violent protesters at the G20 in Toronto were actually cops in disguise.

Someone caught a video of two officers changing into blackblock uniforms and somebody caught the fact that they had the exact same pants and shoes on while they were coming into the crowd under a black tarp."

Yes, Michael, and that happened also in the Battle of Seattle, the WTO demos, and IT'S STILL HAPPENING.
And still being caught on video, too!
Violent tactics -- random violence like breaking windows, throwing things at cops, etc. -- are LOVED by the police Agents Provocateurs, who both instigate them, and encourage these tactics in their impressionable DUPES. They are intended to scare people off from the Movement. And that works, too!
These Agents Provocateurs need to be ISOLATED while the REST of the demonstrators do NOT fall for the BAIT of breaking their discipline and re-acting violently. Then it will be OBVIOUS what is really happening.

Videos can be used to EDUCATE both the Public, AND the Demonstrators themselves -- in recognizing Provocateur TACTICS, if not the Agents themselves.

Tuesday April 17, 2012, 10:33 pm
My dream is to fulfill Isaiah 23:17-18 and 24:21-24 where the kings of the earth are thrown in jail and the profits of this Beautiful Planet are used for food and fine clothing for those who need it. Then we can have that big party of Isaiah 25. That will be when the veil will be lifted from all nations eyes, and they understand what they have never heard before.-That last part about understanding has to be what is meant, at the end of Isaiah 52.

Tuesday April 17, 2012, 10:38 pm
OWS-Empire's-Territory is going to be what the people make it. I will try to promote these simple structural changes, basically from out of DC, to helping Cities, States and Towns, be able to take care of themselves.

Tuesday April 17, 2012, 10:46 pm
I do not normally carry a cell phone or anything similar. I find it important to detach from all loops and all the hecticity at times. But at protests they are essential. Just be careful. Hell, be sneaky and covert as possible. That dodge from last year of arresting people for simply recording police actions was repeated this week here in Arizona. Same bs as before: Although person recording the scene was not physically impeding the arrest and was on public property, the police ordered him to desist and, when he did not, busted him for obstruction. Almost certain to be thrown out of court, but it's on his arrest record and is a hassle. It's not about law enforcement, it's about police non-accountability. Cops really need to be sued for false arrest when they pull that nonsense.

Tuesday April 17, 2012, 10:58 pm
Thanks Bee. This video offers many great tactics.
All actions taken.
When the gov't tries to silence you, let your
camera be your weapon and your voice!

Tuesday April 17, 2012, 11:04 pm
BTW, don't get fooled; it doesn't have anything to do with Democrats v. Republicans. Oakland Mayor Jean Quan is a Democrat. NYC Mayor Bloomberg is something of a liberal. It has to do with corporatists, elitists and just plain phonies. There are a lot of phony liberals, and most of them are Democrats.

Wednesday April 18, 2012, 12:12 am
Great video, Betsy! I remember viewing footage that was posted here on Care2 of peaceful protesters in NYC being removed from the crowd by NY's finest to be arrested. As I was watching, I saw an attractive young woman who appeared to be doing nothing more than carrying a sign being surrounded by police, one of whom had reached over her shoulder from behind and was fondling her breasts while the others were busy herding the crowd. Now THAT's an image that will always stay with me forever! I couldn't help but wonder if anyone else noticed this sexual assault taking place and if the officer was charged. I hope he was. And if he was, would anyone have believed this woman if there hadn't been actual footage of his blatant assault?

We're always under surveillance every time we leave the privacy of our homes because surveillance cameras are everywhere we go. Since it appears that everyone is suspect, we really need to defend ourselves. Remember the old adage, "A picture is worth a thousand words."

Wednesday April 18, 2012, 4:48 am
That is pretty blatant abuse, Susanne. Not much can surprise me anymore.

The 1% have a death grip on this country. It really is chilling. I should say, more accurately, that the .01% have the rest of the 1% keeping them in power. Then anyone in the 99% who is deluded enough, in denial and/or fear, prop up the 1%.

Thanks Betsy.

Wednesday April 18, 2012, 5:14 am

They know more than you think,,,

Wednesday April 18, 2012, 5:55 am
Noted with thanks Bee!! :)

Wednesday April 18, 2012, 7:06 am
Noted, thanks.

Wednesday April 18, 2012, 9:17 am
This video is informative indeed. Was it submitted by a relative, Bee? I don't understand the anti-Canadian flavor of some of the talk here. Where in heck did it come from. My friend Terry K's remark did seem to come out of left field and was followed up by continued venom...totally uncalled for, IMO. It has occurred to me that the Canadians I have noticed who have become involved on Care2 have been some of the most clear-headed speakers for and against American life (whatever the context may be). I think we should be very thankful for the input and comparison of their system and ours. Theirs is a little more objective than ours, I think, and we could learn a lot if we dare listen. That's the trouble with America in general, IMO: We think we know it all. Well, we don't. So let's learn to listen once in a while before we accuse others of being less "anything" than we are! IMO, we don't have a lot to be proud of these days except for such movements as Occupy and 99% Sprint. Those organizations of the people will save this country, if we stand behind them and become one with them.

Wednesday April 18, 2012, 9:20 am
Oh, Lord, I've invented a new phone company (99% Sprint) LOL. Of course I meant 99% Spring above!

Wednesday April 18, 2012, 9:26 am
Well that was quite amazing! Thanks Betsy. (Ogilvie is very impressive)

Wednesday April 18, 2012, 9:31 am
Thanks, Susanne, for your reminder of the importance of some videos taken for entirely different purposes. I don't know if that officer was ever reprimanded in the least for his behavior, but he should have been prosecuted.

Wednesday April 18, 2012, 9:35 am
Enjoyed the video.

Question: Was anything said about sending a copy of video footage capture to a friend(s) just in case your
phone is taken away from you... .???

Ty, Bee.
.

Wednesday April 18, 2012, 9:58 am
Great point, Jim (just as I would expect from you)! Like saving your files as you work on your computer and then saving the finished product to a CD or flash drive, Jim's suggestion of sending your video footage to a trusted source is an excellent one!

I'll send you a star, if I can, but I think I've exhausted the quota they allow per individual per week on you already!

Wednesday April 18, 2012, 10:45 am
great video, thanks Betsy for sharing it

Wednesday April 18, 2012, 11:55 am
@Susanne. horrible account of the sexual assault. That is what filming is for.

@Myron, you said it well...it is not Democrats or Republicans or liberals.

@Michael, thank you so much for your reference. The video on the site explains it all and is appropriately named "The Web of Debt". The crisis is unsustainable currency systems in many countries including the US.

@Caitlin, the young film maker, who shares my family name, is a very distant relative. He is a native of British Columbia. His political and environmental Indie films have captured the interests of Canadian audiences who share his beliefs. His work has been subtitled quite a bit and is drawing increasing international audiences.

@Cam, I can know why you did not understand any answers you received when visited Vancouver Occupy. Your questions were framed in the ever narrowing lens of an out of touch fiscal conservative. The people you questioned did not understand your questions (Myron wrote it is not Republican or Democratic). You did not understand their answers.

The crisis is an unsustainable currency system.

Watch, with an open mind, the video "Web of Debt" on Michael Dewey's link, if you want to be on the same page as people who are making Occupy comments, if you want to understand a movement in the US with an agenda different than any social movement before it.

I am sure you are sensing the anger in many US comments. Think about the situation as a ice hockey game. The 99% vs the corporate plutocracy. They are beating us 50-0. It is the very end of the third period and they pull their goalie to get one more goal. Yep, they are being that nasty.

Wednesday April 18, 2012, 1:36 pm
Noted and great feed back, work it out it will be okay. same pages we turn on a different book.

Wednesday April 18, 2012, 4:52 pm
Just to clarify... My Canadian comment was in response to several Teabagger comments which have subsequently disappeared.

Wednesday April 18, 2012, 6:47 pm
The most crucial thing that the video does not mention, is that everyone with cameras/video should get together asap upon arrival and should coordinate their efforts ahead of time to insure that the coverage is as through and complete as it is described in this video.

In a very real sense, this is a tactical situation and should be treated as such by all who are doing the shooting of the pics or video.

Wednesday April 18, 2012, 6:57 pm
Thank you! There haven't been many public police brutality videos recently, but this tutorial will come in handy during the upcoming elections and other demonstrations. Free speech should be protected, and we will not let others fight dirty without us being prepared to defend ourselves!

Wednesday April 18, 2012, 8:07 pm
TY Bee for posting.... Noted!

Also ty BMutiny for posting about the spam ad on this thread... I do hope everyone took the time to flag it!

Thursday April 19, 2012, 1:42 am
Thank you BetsyBEE. I've read every word and learned much! I send a STAR for your last post! I've flagged the creep so many times as I've found using different terminology gets different (quicker) results. The problem is it is always changing. ThankX Jim for your brilliance. I'd like to say I am very disgusted at the Canadian woman who slammed Kit. I think she is one of the most brilliant women on the planet. And Myron thank you for the repug/dem/lib clarification, as it was driving me crazy.
THANK YOU BMutiny for returning back to C2. You were my first friend, my first STAR! And Thank You to all whom taught me so much.

Thursday April 19, 2012, 1:54 am
excellent Betsy

Thursday April 19, 2012, 1:56 am
Very interesting noted thanks

Thursday April 19, 2012, 4:02 am
People that say they don't understand what the occupy movement is about or they think the people of the occupy movement don't know what it's about, are people that don't want to understand, because it's not hard to figure out unless you are ignorant.

Thursday April 19, 2012, 8:37 am
Great video ! Thanks Bee.

Thursday April 19, 2012, 12:14 pm
SuSanne P - If you are referring to me": the Canadian woman who slammed Kit. I think she is one of the most brilliant women on the planet" - I take issue with your perception of my post. It is not slamming someone to ask for clarification when one doesn't understand a comment posted by another. I agree - Kit is a brilliant writer . I believe I came upon this story through a mass mailing sent by the author - perhaps you missed Kits comment to which I was responding? "I think politics in Canada must be very boring. Or is it that the area is so vast compared to the population that they ignore their political situations, while injecting into ours?" I suspect from a comment posted by Terry King that they might have been responding to a post(s) which were subsequently removed, none the less - how is it disgusting to ask someone to explain something which one does not understand? The rest of my comment I stand by. What happens in the United States DOES affect what happens in Canada whether you or I like it or not. Considering the things going on in the world at large , this video is a timely one, and I am sure that we have all learned something to our benefit from viewing it.

Friday April 27, 2012, 8:11 am
Thank you for this. We need to document every abuse and get it out there. The press made a difference during the Civil Rights movement and Viet Nam, so Big Business bought the press to shut them up. Now it's up to us, The People, the 99%, to make sure "they" are held accountable during this movement.