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Kit
- 2183 days ago - action.ourfuture.org
The so-called Super Committee took a disturbing step this week, when Democratic members made a major concession to Republicans - proposing $200 billion in cuts to Medicare. And, there are reports that Democrats will make CUTS in S.S. Pleas sign!



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Terrie Williams (798)
Saturday October 29, 2011, 7:38 am
Thanks for taking action. Now we need your support to finish the fight.
Siged, noted and posted to FB! Thanks, Kit.
 

Terry King (113)
Saturday October 29, 2011, 8:04 am
Certainly signed but I'm afraid the cuts are inevitable unless the Progressives can regain control of congress.
 

Kit B (276)
Saturday October 29, 2011, 8:07 am

Thanks Terrie and Terry - let's hope that with enough signatures and an election just a year away these guys wake up and smell reality.
 

Arielle S (313)
Saturday October 29, 2011, 8:12 am
Well, I would like a refund of the money I paid into Social Security - plus interest, of course - Then I could use the money to move to a country that has a health care program and that takes care of its elderly. I suspect there are many to choose from...
 

Ben O (189)
Saturday October 29, 2011, 8:14 am
Signed. (Since I'm not a US citizen;- "Zip/Postal code 60601" does it!)
 

Kit B (276)
Saturday October 29, 2011, 8:15 am

I'm thinking Canada or France. If this country is going to continue on a run away train to self destruction, I really don't want to be a part of that.
 

Suzy F (94)
Saturday October 29, 2011, 8:19 am
Thanks!
 

Barbara K (60)
Saturday October 29, 2011, 8:20 am
I think this committee is the stupidest thing in our government. It should be abolished immediately. We should not have so few people making decisions that will affect the rest of us for decades to come. How about putting it to a vote of the people? Whatever they come up with, we should all get a vote on.
 

Ben O (189)
Saturday October 29, 2011, 8:24 am
If You don't mind, here's some info on Swedish health care and social security:
http://www.sweden.se/eng/Home/Society/Health-care/Reading/Swedish-health-care-and-social-security/
(One US Dollar is about 6,50 Swedish Kronor, -SEK)
 

Kit B (276)
Saturday October 29, 2011, 8:35 am


Sweden, Denmark so many countries that use tax money for the people. Though we are by far a larger country, I am not convinced that we too could not provide for our people. Also I don't really care what name it's called, taxes for the good of all, provide for the collective good, socialism, the point is that it works and works well. Thanks Ben, interesting article all should read.
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday October 29, 2011, 8:37 am
Signed/thanks Kit
 

Vallee R (280)
Saturday October 29, 2011, 8:59 am
Signed - love when it asks me to chip in - I live on disability - one of the 99% -

Kit we have thought about moving to a different country - but there seem problems everywhere and mith no money and my husband's health - I guess we are stuckk here.
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday October 29, 2011, 9:13 am
done. im another one who is thinking of another place to call home..the expense of moving is too high though.
 

patricia lasek (317)
Saturday October 29, 2011, 9:18 am
Signed. Thanks for the post Kit.
I am so sick of them threatening seniors and the disabled. What would they do if they were in our shoes instead of in the priveledged class?
 

Brad Miller (120)
Saturday October 29, 2011, 9:43 am
Signed. Thanks Kit. Thanks to Ben also. We must keep trying.
 

Gary L (138)
Saturday October 29, 2011, 9:46 am
signed and noted this super committee is a joke just another excuse to pick on the 99%
 

Terry King (113)
Saturday October 29, 2011, 10:14 am
We all have an obligation to stay here and clean up our own mess! We, collectively, are responsible for the condition our country is in.
 

Robert B (60)
Saturday October 29, 2011, 10:46 am
Social Security can be saved by simple tweaks. Like merely increasing with holding taxes by a mere half percent and increasing the taxable income threshold beyond the current $105,000. In other words, the wealthier people should be paying more and sharing the burden along with the 99%. I'm sure Medicare can be fixed in similar fashion.

 

Kamila A (141)
Saturday October 29, 2011, 11:10 am
done, thanks Kit
 

Yvonne White (229)
Saturday October 29, 2011, 11:35 am
Do the Democrats REALLY want to see Class Warfare? Cutting Medicare & even Threatening to cut Social Security WILL be the end of it for them - I believe we CAN find Progressives to take the place of Every Do-Nothing Blue Dog in CONgre$$ & I would help hunt every blue dog down! I am sick to death of half-a$$ed democraps - Dick Durbin has done so many flip-flops over the years he Must be a circus freak.. he's only Marginally better than the full-on RepubliCON ba$tards I'm saddled with..*heavy sigh*
 

Carole K (195)
Saturday October 29, 2011, 12:06 pm
Noted & signed. TY very much, Kit! Appreciate the opportunity to sign to preserve Medicare & Social Security every chance I get bc these programs are my lifeline & I know there are millions more like me.
 

Susanne R (237)
Saturday October 29, 2011, 12:30 pm
I don't want my tax dollars spent on keeping the military-industrial-congressional complex strong. Nor do I want them spent on corporate welfare. Most of us have contributed PLENTY out of every paycheck we've ever earned to ensure that we have a safety net in our senior years or, God forbid, in the event that we become disabled before then. I want a say in how my tax dollars are spent! Why is lobbying legal? How dare the lobbyists grease the palms of greedy and corrupt politicians who give their masters what they pay for! Let the Super Committee cut costs by fixing and improving the system by providing better oversight and eliminating the corruption and/or mismanagement within it, but we can't allow them to make cuts in services that we've paid for and that most of us will one day need. The 1% have everything they need and more --and much of that came at the expense of those who could least afford it. It's time they gave something back.

Signed with much hope! Thank you, Kit, for the post and for your tireless efforts at not only pointing out what's wrong with this country, but for always doing what you can to correct those wrongs as well! Everyone here (trolls excluded) is trying to facilitate much-needed change and deserves recognition for their efforts. And some stand out in the crowd. You are one of them!
 

(0)
Saturday October 29, 2011, 12:51 pm
Noted and signed,Kit.
 

donald Baumgartner (6)
Saturday October 29, 2011, 12:52 pm
Signed!!
 

(0)
Saturday October 29, 2011, 12:59 pm
We also can provide for our our people Kit. The United States of America is the most powerful country upon the face of the earth. The answer is that the powers that be do not want to provide for the people. This is all a fraud setup to rip off the money of the general population, and to keep them running like little hamsters on individual wheels of misery and misfortune!
 

Robert O (12)
Saturday October 29, 2011, 1:13 pm
Thanks Kit.
 

Esther S (45)
Saturday October 29, 2011, 1:18 pm
Yvonne White and other liberals, it is because liberals refuse to vote for the "blue dogs", etc. that we have the ultra-conservatives in control of the House of Representatives. The fact is that in some Districts and some States a liberal cannot be elected. In those areas, a middle of the road candidate might have a chance to be elected. However if the liberals refuse to vote for him or her, you get an ultra-conservative. Then if those ultra-conservatives control both the House of Representatives and perhaps the Presidency, they will do away with Social Security and Medicare completely because that is what they want to do. I am not stating that we should not let our Representatives know how we feel, but do not abstain from voting for someone because he or she is not liberal enough for you because think of what you will get. .
 

Elizabeth S (0)
Saturday October 29, 2011, 1:25 pm
Perhaps super as in Super Committee is meant to stand for Supercilious (dictionary meaning: coolly and patronizingly haughty). Seems to fit their attitude toward the 99% doesn't it!
 

Jae A (320)
Saturday October 29, 2011, 1:36 pm
...and as pointed out..still no cuts in Welfare checks for Corporates ...via tax breaks or even cash back even when nothing paid in, all too often. Just cuts for social services....can we all say.."pethetic"... as in the bunch of corporate toads we have in our Congress.

Corporate dumb beat for the fascist marching boots appears to be all that we are left with in Congress now.
 

Jae A (320)
Saturday October 29, 2011, 1:48 pm
..that was suppose to be ..."corporate drum beat" but dumb beat sort of fits also....it is after all their hopes that we all will do our best to stay dumb as to their many ills... of which some are their death and destruction for the profits of a few etc. Now they want to help that death count for sure by cuts in Medicare...their insanitea has no boundries,morals, or conscience obviously.
 

Mary Donnelly (47)
Saturday October 29, 2011, 2:10 pm
Thanks Kit. Signed and sent.
 

kaisuorvokki m (26)
Saturday October 29, 2011, 2:33 pm
Signed, thank you Kit. I hope all the best for you!
 

Dandelion G (373)
Saturday October 29, 2011, 2:35 pm
Thanks for taking action.
 

Bruce Van Tassell (7)
Saturday October 29, 2011, 2:45 pm
Tax the 1 % till the water drains from their pool till they think twice about filling up the limo this week till they wait in the hospital hallway for 8 hours. Then when they feel the pain redistribute their wealth make a few friends this Christmas.
 

Kit B (276)
Saturday October 29, 2011, 2:52 pm

I get a very strong sense that people are indeed fed-up. Special committees for this and super committees for that, all so much fluff and patronization for what DC thinks are their lap dogs. How very wrong they are. Revolution may come wrapped in many different ways, and that is not to say I want to see blood in the streets. I do want to see people organize and even if we form a 3rd party, fight back.

Though every now again I do think about that unused guillotine in France.
 

Kit B (276)
Saturday October 29, 2011, 2:53 pm

Sorry about the shortage of Green Stars, so many are deserved.
 

Ann Breeden (65)
Saturday October 29, 2011, 3:32 pm
Signed and noted. Green stars to all.
 

Cam V (417)
Saturday October 29, 2011, 3:33 pm
I wonder what you think of Ryans plan for folks to be means tested in order to get these here benefits Kit? It would cut out the ability of billionaires etc. to get these benefits which would be a good thing no?
 

Nelson Baker (0)
Saturday October 29, 2011, 3:42 pm
Signed
 

Kit B (276)
Saturday October 29, 2011, 3:47 pm

Honestly Cam, I don't trust any form of "acid test" they can be changed or altered as suits those who create them. The benefits of Social Security and Medicare are paid for through the working lives of all Americans, why go after that? Because it's an easy mark, has been for years.
 

Judy C (97)
Saturday October 29, 2011, 3:51 pm
You're right, Kit. We are fed up! Medicare and Social Security is already inadequate for those without other resources. Signed. Thanks Kit.
 

Cam V (417)
Saturday October 29, 2011, 3:54 pm
I still think that the rich should not get these benefits. They do here in Canada and even though I am a fiscal hawk I think they should be taken away from them. Anyone who is a millionaire does not need these benefits. I think a means test is a good idea as long as the scale is over a few million.
 

Kit B (276)
Saturday October 29, 2011, 4:05 pm

Though I agree the wealthy should not have Social benefits, they don't need them. I wonder just how one can prove that Mr X once a millionaire is now bereft of financial standing. I think we agree on content, I wonder about fair methods for application.
 

Michael C (218)
Saturday October 29, 2011, 4:54 pm
Noted, and signed...If those Democrats agree to cut SS, and Medicare, I hope they realize, they'll have also given up their offices...They'd never be elected for anything again...Although I know they wouldn't need their Social Security benefits, I'm sure they are all Millionairs as well, and most of them,getting rich, and taxpayers expense, so I'm sure they wouldn't really care anyway...
 

Terri Hughes (416)
Saturday October 29, 2011, 5:16 pm
How do they think people that are disabled and retired are supposed to live? BIG CHANGES need to be made NOW. I'm talking about republicans and democrats. All this arguing with each other needs to STOP. They need to work together to get things done to help the people. They don't have to worry about getting a pay check every week. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!!!
 

Barbara Chally (10)
Saturday October 29, 2011, 5:25 pm
If the best Democratic members that could have been named to this committee in fact made a major concession to Republicans that will stand no matter what concessions the Republicans commit to, why does work continue?
 

Carlene V (202)
Saturday October 29, 2011, 5:41 pm
Thanks Kit. Signed and forwarded.

Terry King is right in that "we, collectively, are responsible for the condition our country is in. PLEASE remember that when you vote in 2012 and vote every last one of the obstructionist thugs out! We can take back our country, cutting and running is not the answer.
 

Ralph R Sutton (56)
Saturday October 29, 2011, 6:26 pm
Signed.
 

Kevin Lewis (1)
Saturday October 29, 2011, 7:19 pm
Signed, GOP the party of NO!!!!!
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday October 29, 2011, 8:13 pm
TU Kit, signed (2 signatures); SS is the only income I have and it's not enough to make ends meet.
 

Dogan Ozkan (5)
Saturday October 29, 2011, 8:21 pm
noted and signed
 

Carol H (229)
Saturday October 29, 2011, 9:08 pm
signed and noted, thanks
 

Janet G (2)
Saturday October 29, 2011, 9:16 pm
Signed.
 

TERRANCE N (65)
Saturday October 29, 2011, 9:45 pm
Gladly signed. Thank God the occupy wall street came right on time. The Super s@*t committee was set up to either cut SS, invest it in wall street, and/or raise the age of eligibility. When Bush tried it, he was almost ran out of town. So the ruling elite figure that Obama as our " black president" would be able to do it. Americans don't realize it, but Obama has gotten away with things Bush would never have thought of.

They are not going to touch SS. This would even re ignite the Koch brothers bought off sellout Tea party and occupy wall street to form a coalition. This is the last thing the millionaire politicians want to deal with.

Medicare is a different story. The over cost of medicare come from the corruption of the insurance companies, and hospitals and doctors over charging for routine services.This has gone on for so long because politicians recieve handsome kickbacks from each of these entities. but you would get the impression from our corporate media that it's the people who are costing the unsustainability of medicare.

Go to www.getthemoneyout.com and lets take our government back from the money changers just montioned.
 

Colleen L (3)
Saturday October 29, 2011, 9:55 pm
Petiton signed. This is something I've always had problems with, when I'd hear about how they want to keep taking more and more away from people who worked all of their life here to pay into the so-called system. They have no right to deny or take away one penny from the people. Our govenment needs to start taking away all of the freebies their employees get, especially the free healthcare, monies for only serving a few terms/years. They get paid way too much and need to cut back at their salaries as it is.
Thanks Kit
 

TERRANCE N (65)
Saturday October 29, 2011, 10:06 pm
SS shouldn't even be on the table because it's solvent all the way to 2030. SS adds nothing to the deficit. Remember, it was Obama with no pressure from the republicans who formed this so-called "debt commission" when he should have been concentrating on jobs and raising taxes on the rich. As soon as Obama gains our confidence he knifes us in the back. He sneaks up on us like a slittering snake.
 

Agnes N (703)
Saturday October 29, 2011, 10:23 pm
thanks Kit
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday October 29, 2011, 11:30 pm
We do not want grandmothers with their grand daughters starving on the streets.
 

Patricia E G (63)
Saturday October 29, 2011, 11:46 pm
I totally agree with Cam.
The system was designed for the NEEDY not the rich.
The rich do not need Medicare or Social Security.
Eligibility is checkable or you will get busted....eventually.
Noted & Signed
Thank you Kit

 

Cam V (417)
Sunday October 30, 2011, 1:18 am
It is the Republicans who are trying to do just that Pat and the Dems are blocking the whole thing. It was sent out of Congress months ago and Reid is just letting it sit there. So the left becomes the right eh?
 

Ruth R (250)
Sunday October 30, 2011, 1:38 am
Noted and signed.
 

Esther Z (94)
Sunday October 30, 2011, 5:31 am
Noted and signed.
 

LeMoyn Salmonsen (88)
Sunday October 30, 2011, 6:49 am
Thanks Kit, signed
 

Past Member (0)
Sunday October 30, 2011, 7:46 am
We are screwed.
Democrats are useless.
the rich own you, face it.
 

David Johnson (15)
Sunday October 30, 2011, 7:49 am
thanks for the heads up Kit. signed and noted.
 

. (0)
Sunday October 30, 2011, 9:42 am
noted, signed and forwarded, thanks, Kit....Super Committee my 3rd foot.....so the rest of congress decided they didn't want anything to do with what they were sent to Congress to do...oh wait, I forgot, eat those expensive breakfast goodies we all are paying for....
 

Rita White (55)
Sunday October 30, 2011, 10:24 am
noted and signed
 

Barbara W (342)
Sunday October 30, 2011, 10:50 am
Signed and shared.
 

Kenneth L (314)
Sunday October 30, 2011, 11:37 am
I have an uncle in the States who is on Social Security. I assume it's the same as Canada Pension Plan where you get so much when you retire and reach a certain age (62 or 65 here whichever you choose).
Here it's guaranteed to everyone though the benefits depend on how much you paid into it through the years. Could be adequate or could be pretty inadequate, though it usually supplements other gov't. plans.

As for healthcare in my province regular doctor and hospital treatments are always all free (paid through some tax) but prescriptions aren't (unless you're a senior). Certain special treatments and care aren't covered either.

 

DORIS L (61)
Sunday October 30, 2011, 11:48 am
Signed.
 

Samantha Trosky (152)
Sunday October 30, 2011, 1:25 pm
Thanks Kit!!! I not only signed that petition, but I click on the "take action" button and signed 3 other great petitions on that site! Thanks! :)

 

Shelli S (374)
Sunday October 30, 2011, 1:49 pm
Signed and noted, with disappointment.
 

Jim P (3259)
Sunday October 30, 2011, 5:09 pm
Petition signed.

Some good comments above.

If anything that should get cut is the bloated military budget and it should be cut by 50%!

Ty, Kit.
.
 

Cam V (417)
Sunday October 30, 2011, 5:44 pm
Had to look where you were located Ken because I could not remember where you hail from our side of the border. Here in British Columbia I have to pay a monthy amount for my health care. Is it free in Ontario? I was not aware of that.

As well the biggest difference between the solvency of our SS plans is that in America the government there borrowed from it and replaced that money with bonds that are now useless. Here in Canada our government has been locked out of it since it began. They could not borrow the money and I think that is what saved it for us.
 

Cynthia Davis (340)
Monday October 31, 2011, 4:43 am
Signed TY Kit
 

Kit B (276)
Monday October 31, 2011, 10:01 am

Cam, this article clearly addresses the turn-coat democrats. Those democrats who were appointed to find ways to secure Medicare and Social Security. So your comment that only republicans are in the fight is obviously not accurate. Republicans have offered a great deal of rhetoric about both programs but to date have offered no real, workable comprehensive plan that would actually function. Words and chattered just don't get the job done.

To address the idea that I have a duty to stay put and fight on. I have been fighting the system that steals from the poor and middle class to give to the wealthy since I was in high school. I am and have been a life long - in the streets - activist. I can not see how I have, personally, contributed to this disaster we are in, so careful tossing those stones. I do not fight this only from a computer, as many who know me are aware. Should I come to the decision to spend my waning years in peace and away from the country of my birth, I see that as a personal choice that each should have the freedom to make, without condemnation or attempts at guilt tripping.

I am recharged by the current OWS movement, thrilled that some are getting off their asses and on/in the streets. That gives me hope that we might just have a future. I fully expect this movement to slow down during the harsh winter months, that does not mean it will end, only re-group in the spring. Now as to how to support OWS - if you can afford to be on the Internet you can afford to send $5.00 a month to support OWS, and send a blanket for the winter cold.
 

. (0)
Tuesday November 1, 2011, 8:57 am
2 sigs
 

MarietteAWAY G (175)
Tuesday November 1, 2011, 3:33 pm
Thanks Kit! Sorry I can't sign - US only. Good luck!
 

MmAway M (501)
Friday November 4, 2011, 12:29 pm
Thank you Kit for this, and gotta say I do agree with "CAM" I really get upset when I see a BIG CORPORATION President getting SS when they aready have MILLIONS of $$$! The middle class and poor (those that worked) need help. The Seniors that have worked their entire life have had cuts to their SS, then had raises in premiums to a secondary or even their "Pension" health Insurance. No wonder I see so many foreclosures here in So. California.
 

Pat B (357)
Tuesday November 8, 2011, 5:35 pm
Thank you, Kit for this one. Signed. "Thanks for taking action".
 
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