Tuesday July 10, 2012, 10:34 am
This situation is one of grave errors, and the embodiment of Israel of tactics and behaviors that were once leveled against them. I suspect that their paranoia throughout the ages and specifically in regard to the previous century has led to this. I am generally pro Israeli. They live in a very difficult, unsavory, and politically and militarily unhealthy area of the world especially because of their nationality and history.

But, that being said, I cannot condone what they are doing and have done to the Palestinians. Granted the Palestinians have caused much of their treatment, but there are those that can say that the Palestinians behaved the way they did because of how the Israelis treated them. It gets to be one of those crazy Hatfield and McCoys feuds.

The recent acknowledgement from a news source that we aren't hearing much about Israel and what is going on there lately is because of a willing news blackout of such information being delivered to Americans via their tvs and news media.

I learned there were recent riots by Israelis which seemed to echo Crystal Nacht, and event perpetrated on Jews in Germany. Only this time it was Israelis against Sudanese immigrants who sought and found safety in Israel. No matter where you look the term cooler heads prevail seems lost to every society.

Tuesday July 10, 2012, 1:08 pm
I agree Kit. Maybe I wasn't as clear about it as I could have been.

There comes a point where you keep writing off an ally's bad behavior because of the rough go they were given. But there also comes a time when you have to tell that ally to stop and say.

"You can't do this any more Israel. Half your country sees the folly of this of this behavior. Learn to live with your neighbors equally."

Tuesday July 10, 2012, 3:21 pm
Kit, Israel treats its Arab pouplation much better that the most democratic nations - US or Canada treated their enemy aliens during WWII.

I think that not only Israel is within its rights. I think we should learn from them in many aspects. There is not sense to check everyone at airport security when it is proven that the danger comes from Islmists, trained in militant camps. I am sure those Islamists are having a great laugh watching humiliation and troubles of regular Americans. Israel knows whom to check, and peaceful people do not have to experience all that nonsense.

I am more concern about worse results of colonialism: 22 Arab states, each having a separate vote in UN and getting a huge bias for this supposedly neutral organization. Created by British, Arabs got all the lands while many other nations got nothing - Druze, Azeris, Kurds, Ishmaelis, Ahmadis. This is grossly unfair and needs to be revisited.

So much empty talk about Israeli colonialism, while Israel got only 1:10,000 of Arab land mass. Arab states greed for the land has to be stopped. They should be reminded that they are TRUE consequences of the colonialism, and behave accordingly.

Tuesday July 10, 2012, 10:12 pm
Find an old Encyclopedia before 1940- look up Palestine.

Wednesday July 11, 2012, 2:27 am
Hi Kit--You know I think we can agree with some of the ideas of this article, but I believe the author through either laziness or misdirection, has a faulty premise--that all of the settlement of Palestine was by settlers rather than an extensive-gathering of a previously indigenous population back to its home base, Israel/Palestine.

Let me show you what I mean--this from WIkipedia:

Demographics in the Ottoman period

In the middle of the first century of the Ottoman rule, i.e., 1550 CE, Bernard Lewis in a study of Ottoman registers of the early Ottoman Rule of Palestine reports:[6]
From the mass of detail in the registers, it is possible to extract something like a general picture of the economic life of the country in that period. Out of a total population of about 300,000 souls, between a fifth and a quarter lived in the six towns of Jerusalem, Gaza, Safed, Nablus, Ramle, and Hebron. The remainder consisted mainly of peasants, living in villages of varying size, and engaged in agriculture. Their main food-crops were wheat and barley in that order, supplemented by leguminous pulses, olives, fruit, and vegetables. In and around most of the towns there was a considerable number of vineyards, orchards, and vegetable gardens.
In his paper 'Demography in Israel/Palestine: Trends, Prospects and Policy Implications'[7] Sergio DellaPergola, drawing on the work of Bachi (1975), provides rough estimates of the population of Palestine west of the River Jordan by religion groups from the 1st century onwards summarised in the table below.
Year Jews Christians Muslims Total1
First half 1st century CE Majority - - ~2,500²
5th century Minority Majority - >1st century
End 12th century Minority Minority Majority >225
14th cent. before Black Death Minority Minority Majority 225
14th cent. after Black Death Minority Minority Majority 150
1533–1539 5 6 145 157
1690–1691 2 11 219 232
1800 7 22 246 275
1890 43 57 432 532
1914 94 70 525 689
1922 84 71 589 752
1931 175 89 760 1,033
1947 630 143 1,181 1,970
1. Figures in thousands.
According to Alexander Scholch, Palestine in 1850 had about 350,000 inhabitants, 30% of whom lived in 13 towns; roughly 85% were Muslims, 11% were Christians and 4% Jews[8]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Palestine


So, Kit, his premise is that all of the immigrant waves, like the waves of white immigrants to Turtle Island and NorthAmerica generally are strictly outsiders here to replace one indigenous sovereignty with another. That's garbage--there was a Jewish majority centuries ago in Israel/Palestine, unlike in Turtle Island and North America, where there was nary a white man or woman to be found until they started their voyages of exploration" that we were all taught in grade school!

Those Jews living in the Palestine area before the arrival of the first true Zionists were integrated into the population also and thus were absolutely and truly part of the indigenous population.

It is precisely the battle for the same piece of land both literally and historically, which frames the Arab-Israeli conflict and predates zionists arrival in the area during the late 19th and 20th Centuries. The author would and should have known that!

The historical recored proves the comparison to the white settlers in North America and their colonization and repression of the native culture and indigenous populations there false.

I do share with you that my fellow Zionists wanted to establish a separate set of enclaves and not integrate into the Arab population. I do not approve of all of the methods of their doing so, but as you know, do approve because of the Holocaust especially of the need for a separate haven for the Jews.But this was not the case of a non-indigenous population invading a new territory completely as Jewish settlement in Palestine was a constant for many centuries as the Wikipedia figures reveal.

Wednesday July 11, 2012, 3:44 am
I'm coming in from a different (and, perhaps, unpopular) perspective. You can discern a lot about a country by its Total Fertility Rate. In the 21st Century, iI a "developed" country has a Total Fertility Rate higher than 1.6-1.8, one of two things is going on: (1) Its Total Fertility Rate is transitioning down, or (2) It intends to expand its territory.

Israel's Total Fertility Rate, at 3.0, is extremely high for a "developed" country--so high that it's an anomaly. (The arab population of Israel, with its higher birthrate, is less than 21%.) So, the government of Israel is rewarding its 75%+ Jewish population for being hyperfertile. Israel is set on expansion, and since there are no unsettled lands in its viciinity it is hellbent on displacing the people who are already there.

Wednesday July 11, 2012, 3:46 am
thanks for the fair comments. will re-post.

Wednesday July 11, 2012, 6:38 am
This is a report published by Humanitarian news and analysis,a service of the UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs about a sample of Israeli behavior toward Palestinians in area "c" of the occupied Palestinian Terretories (OPT)in the west bank.Please read.

OPT: Demolitions, drought and displacement in West Bank Area C

Saleem Hadaleen: “My cistern was bulldozed by Israeli authorities without warning in December”
RAMALLAH, 18 February 2011 (IRIN) - Demolition of livelihood structures and drought are hitting already impoverished Palestinian communities living in Area C of the West Bank hard this year, according to UN agencies and international aid organizations working in the occupied Palestinian territory (OPT).

Demolition of livelihood structures - including commercial structures, educational facilities, wells, water cisterns, water storage tanks, farmland and animal pens - by Israeli authorities in the West Bank and East Jerusalem increased by about 85 percent in 2010 and so far in 2011, the UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA) told IRIN.

“Over 12,500 Palestinians were affected by the demolition of livelihood structures in the West Bank and East Jerusalem in 2010,” Ramesh Rajasingham, head of OCHA in Jerusalem, told IRIN, and “the majority of people effected, were impacted by the demolition of water cisterns in Area C.”

During 2010, 21 cisterns were demolished by the Israeli army, of which 9 were built thanks to funding from international donors. Of those demolished, 20 were in Hebron and one in Bethlehem, and two were built before 1948, OCHA says.

Cisterns - used to collect rainwater - are the only water source for livestock in these herding communities and the demolitions create economic hardship for thousands of people. During summer cisterns are also a domestic water source.

Forced to buy costly fodder, water

The West Bank is facing a rainfall shortage this season (September-March), which decreases grazing pastures and water levels in cisterns, forcing herders to purchase costly fodder and water from private tanks to sustain their animals, said the Palestinian Authority (PA) agricultural ministry.

About 150,000 Palestinians and 300,000 Israeli settlers - out of the West Bank’s 2.5 million people - live in Area C, according to UN estimates, while a total of 500,000 settlers live in occupied Palestinian land in the West Bank.

“My cistern was bulldozed by Israeli authorities without warning in December,” said goat herder Saleem Hadaleen, 32, from Khashem ad-Daraj in south Hebron. About 1,200 people live in his herding community.

“The Israelis claim they tacked a demolition order to the cistern, but I did not receive it,” he said, “and now the animals have to walk twice as far to reach a water source.”

Saleem and his flock have been forced to return home, struggling to support his family of eight.

Saleem and many community members say their proximity to the construction of the “barrier” to the southeast and the expansion of the Israeli settlement Karmel to the northwest account for the demolitions which are forcing them to relocate.

Livelihood structures demolished

Two hundred and ninety-four livelihood and services structures in the West Bank were demolished by Israeli authorities in 2010, including 240 in Area C and 54 in Jerusalem, said OCHA.

UN Humanitarian Coordinator for oPt Max Gaylord told IRIN some 3,000 outstanding demolition orders remain for various residential and livelihood structures across the West Bank and East Jerusalem.

“There is a clear increase in the demolition of livelihood structures in 2010 and 2011. This is happening mostly in the Jordan Valley, Area C, and in areas adjacent to settlements and the `barrier’ and in occupied East Jerusalem,” said Ghassan Al-Khatib, an official from PA prime minister Salam Fayyad’s office in Ramallah.

“Israel is trying to prevent economic and infrastructure development in these areas to reduce the Palestinian presence on the land to allow for further settlement expansion, and construction of the barrier,” said Al-Khatib.

Maj Guy Inbar, the Coordinator for [Israeli] Government Activities in the Territories, told IRIN: “In 2010, 172 warrants for the dismantling of structures [including houses] belonging to Palestinians were issued in Area C, an almost identical figure to the number of structures belonging to Israelis that were dismantled in the same time period.”

Another 150 such structures were removed from firing (closed military) zones, said Inbar.

“The legal standing of the firing zones is exactly the same for both Israelis and Palestinians,” he said.

Areas A, B and C

The 1995 Israeli-Palestinian Interim Agreement on the West Bank and Gaza Strip (also known as Oslo II) categorized land in the West Bank into areas A, B and C.

According to the agreement, Area A is under the control of the PA, and Area B under the joint control of Israel and the PA. About 95 percent of the Palestinian population live in these two areas, though they make up only 40 percent of the land area.


In Area C, Israel retains military authority and full control over the building and planning sphere, while responsibility for the provision of services falls to the PA.

About 70 percent of Area C is classified as a firing zone, settlement areas, or nature reserves, and is inaccessible to Palestinians, said OCHA’s Rajasingham.

Yousef Hadaleen, `muktar’ (community leader) of Khashem ad-Daraj in south Hebron since 1979, said only two families and the elementary school are connected to a water network in his community located 3-4km from where the “barrier” will be constructed.

“The movement of our community is restricted within a master-plan given to us by the Israeli authorities in 2008,” he said.

“Herders move seasonally, and we are continuously fined 750 NIS [Israeli New Shekels, about US$200] by Israeli authorities for being in areas near the ‘barrier’,” he added.

However, even structures within the “master-plan” are not guaranteed security from demolitions, said Rajasingham.

OCHA is monitoring displacement risks for the population in Area C through community profiling exercises with other agencies.

Eight cisterns in the West Bank recently received demolition orders.

NGO dilemma

International NGOs working in Area C are struggling to find a compromise between meeting the emergency needs of the population, and building within the legal framework outlined by the Israeli Civil Administration, according to a recent study published by Italian NGO GVC.

NGOs want to rebuild livelihood structures, but fear they will be re-demolished.

UN agencies and aid organizations view Area C as one of the biggest humanitarian concerns in the West Bank due the threat of demolitions, lack of access to basic services, particularly water and sanitation infrastructure, and movement restrictions.

An inter-agency assessment in February 2010 found that 79 percent of the herding population in Area C is food insecure, citing the erosion of livelihoods due to a lack of access to land, and water scarcity, as the main contributing factors.


Humanitarian news and analysis
a service of the UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs

Wednesday July 11, 2012, 6:45 am
Thanks Kit for this valuable post.Highly appreciated.Spreating the truth about Israel's occupation sheds the light on the tragedy the Palestinians are living under Zionist's occupation for more than 45 years. Thanks to US political,economic and military support.

Wednesday July 11, 2012, 7:25 am
Saying that people who live in Israel are not Zionists is the weirdest thing one could say! Who are they then? If they were not Zionists, if they din't think Jews should live in Israel, they would move somewhere else.

Keep blaming Israel and Jews for all the troubles is a usual motto of Islamic PR workers, trying to divert attention from the real problems of the world, like suffering of the population of Islamic countries under the merciless dictate of their theocracy.

The real consequence of Colonialism - 22 Arab countries given by British to their Arab buddies-rulers as a return for personal favors, while Brits gave nothing to all other nations - Druze, Azeris, Kurds, Jews - that injustice lasts up to this day, with those countries fighting for their right to have their own states.

Speaking of human rights, Arab states are much worse offenders than Israel, and any honest person would ask those colonial leftovers: what are you doing guys while getting our tax money! But that would require bravery of going against the tide organized by and paid for by Saudi lobby, and money stolen from unsuspecting union members and university students by the Islamists.

Wednesday July 11, 2012, 7:39 am
One person here comments using a 19 century broken gramophone that he can't stop. Repeating again and again the same old records that makes people laugh when they hear them in the 21 century.

Wednesday July 11, 2012, 8:23 am

Here we see the usual funny kill2 Zionistcomments to cheer the day.
Thanks for the laugh, chosen aryan fellow lodgers of the tiny blue.green dot in Gods universe

Yes, God loves you too, because She loves everyone, even your fellow combatant Kissinger.

Just two short notes:
1. You should not stick soo rabid to your inborn victim role
2. Try truth

Wednesday July 11, 2012, 12:06 pm
No, Kit, the fact that HUMAN RIGHTS in Israel are much better than in Arab countries kill your agenda.

I don't think a person taking out Islamist-run countries out of the spotlight of Human Rights violation has even a right to use these words. Because the true agenda of such people is weakening the only American ally in the Middle East and helping Islamist regimes to invade and enslave it.

Islamic militancy is not hard to understand, and it does not require any studies. It is just hard to fight, as it is brainwashing and indoctrination.

Wednesday July 11, 2012, 2:16 pm
This is not about Islam, but Human Rights. The victims happen to folow Islam; that can't be a reason to steal their land. What if the besieged were Christians or something else - would it be the s a m e or would there be a force to stop the
settlements, because of Human Rights ? 'til now the Palestinians are treatened "low", like they were beasts. The U.S. seems not to be a good world leader, because they turn a blind eye on one side, but supporting Israel on the other. This has nothing to do with fairness and Human Rights anymore. The Palestinians have rights, too, that must be respected. I can't condemn people only because they follow Islam; that's plain sick. I'm also tired of excuses like "Holocaust" and "the only democracy in the Mid-East". Who are we to oppress people with our concept of democracy ? Who says that we are right and they are wrong ? When does the conflict stop ? Is that when the Palestinians are exterminated, or left to live in reservations like the Native Americans ??

Wednesday July 11, 2012, 3:01 pm
thanks Kit for this informative article. So, let's take a guess how many Palestinian lives and livelihoods were eliminated with those 6+ acres stolen? It is them and their fate that matters after all, but sadly not to the Israeli govt.

Wednesday July 11, 2012, 6:32 pm
Noted , thanks !

Wednesday July 11, 2012, 9:53 pm
" human rights in Israel and good when compared to...The Sudan?"?? Not only, Kit. Human Rights of people in Israel are not only by far better off than in all Arab states and Islamic countries. Israel treats its Arab citizen by far better than that even Arab countries treat their own of some clans, like Lebanese Arabs treat Palestinian Arabs, etc.

Israel still maintains Arabic as an official language, even though the Russian speaking population is now #2, and not Arabic speaking. Arabic schools are free, and this is something Arabs don't get in US or Canada, so leave alone Sudan and compare what Arabs get in Israel to what they get in the most democratic countries.

Wednesday July 11, 2012, 10:02 pm
Monka, in fact Arabs stole about 60% of land designated for Israel at the San-Remo conference, Transjordan somehow got 80% of lands allocated to Arab and Jewish states, and now Arabs again are not happy and demanding more and more land from tiny Israel.

In turn, they are not willing to share their huge land mass with other nations: Kurds, Druze, etc - none of these nations fighting for their independence is given that by any of their host countries.

As Kurds, Druze and Bahai are all types of Muslim, my support for their rights cannot make my anti-Muslim, as you claim and as the typical tactic of all Islamists - attack the opponents.

For the Islamists, US was a great world leader: Obama bowed to Saudi King, stopped Canadian pipeline to make favor to Saudi oil interests, didn't mind the whole Middle East being turned over to Muslims Brotherhood.
Clinton was no much better, starting the war with Serbia and forcing it to give away Serbian homeland to Muslims, who quickly ethnically cleansed all the captured lands, burnt hundreds of monasteries and now are planning to create an independent state, thus breaking all given promises.

Islamists can't rely be upset at America.

Wednesday July 11, 2012, 10:08 pm
Angelika, if you follow news you can see how often Israeli courts are evicting Israelis who don't have 100% complete proof of lands purchase. This is in the land, where many arguments go back to Ottoman empire time, its bribery and incomplete land registry. If that land was finally confiscated, then the chances are high it was occupied by the Arab squatters. They know that when Jewish squatters are evicted nobody gives a damn, but when Arab squatters are evicted they can play a nationalistic game and win some sympathy from good-hearted and mis-informed folks.

The article is so dirty and biased, and taken from so well known hate web site, that I do not trust a word from it.

Thursday July 12, 2012, 12:17 am
Noted, thanks.

Thursday July 12, 2012, 4:42 am
Sending a Green Star is a simple way to say "Thank you"
You cannot currently send a star to monka because you have done so within the last week.
YES I can

Thursday July 12, 2012, 5:13 am
Thank you Charles for you logical and informative comments.

Thursday July 12, 2012, 5:17 am
Here is an other report about the Palestinian detained/prisoned by Israel published by Humanitarian news and analysis,a service of the UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs. Please read


The prisons

About 4,500 Palestinian prisoners from the occupied Palestinian territory (oPt) are currently held in some 17 of the 32 Israeli prisons. In addition, a small number of detainees are held in four military detention centres and four interrogation centres. Some of the 17 prisons used for Palestinians have a mixed population, but others are explicitly used for Palestinians, such as the Megiddo, Ofer, Ramon, Nafha and Kitziot prisons, the IPS said.

Only one prison, Ofer, is located inside OPT. NGOs have repeatedly noted in this regard that the transfer of civilians out of the occupied territory to the territory of the occupying power is viewed as violating international humanitarian law, [ http://www.icrc.org/ihl.nsf/WebART/380-600083?OpenDocument ] or Article 49 and 76 of the Fourth Geneva Convention.

"The Israeli prisons were established many years ago. Such places of detention, in accordance with the Fourth Geneva Convention, must be placed within oPt," Noora Kero, media delegate at the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) in Jerusalem, told IRIN. However, Israeli government officials pointed out that the building of new prisons inside oPt would equally spark international and Palestinian criticism.

Political prisoners versus security detainees

"In Israel, the legal term for Palestinian prisoners is security prisoner. Political prisoners don't exist. But we say that all those who fought against the Israeli occupation and were arrested because of their role in resistance are political prisoners," Amany Dayif, intervention coordinator at the Prisoners and Detainees Project of NGO Physicians for Human Rights-Israel Section, told IRIN.

Israeli prison authorities often isolate prisoners with a political leadership role, NGOs said. "So-called prisoner chiefs and political leaders are often put into difficult detention conditions like physical isolation and solitary confinement," Dani Shenhar, a lawyer at the Israeli human rights NGO Hamoked, said.

Solitary confinement

Ending solitary confinement was one of the hunger strikers' demands Israel met in the agreement. Most prisoners previously held in isolation had already been released from solitary confinement and moved into the general prison population. "We assess the release of prisoners from solitary confinement on an individual basis," said Sivan Weizman, spokesperson of the IPS, adding that these releases do not necessarily imply any changes for future practice.

According to analysts, only those prisoners whose solitary confinement was ordered directly by Israel's intelligence agency were moved into the general prison population , while others remained in isolation. One of them, Dirar Abu Sisi, a Palestinian engineer accused of Hamas membership and kidnapped from Ukraine in February 2011 [ http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/court-extends-remand-of-gazan-engineer-held-in-israeli-prison-1.351622 ] who is still in solitary confinement, began an individual hunger strike on 30 May to protest his isolation.

"The IPS used solitary confinement to punish prisoners. Sometimes they are denied money for the canteen. Some are denied books and higher education. Isolation is always a tool of pressure," Amany Dayif said.

Nazmeh Mustafa, the wife of an imprisoned Hamas leader from Jenin, is familiar with such isolation. "My husband was denied media and books. A dictionary I brought him was once not allowed in because it had a hard cover. When I took the cover off, they still denied it, without explaining why," she said.

"Much of what is done in Israel's prisons runs under the pretext of security. IPS views good conditions of detention more as a favour to prisoners than as a human rights obligation," said Dani Shenhar, a lawyer for prisoners at Hamoked.

Israeli law allows for three kinds of solitary confinement: [ http://www.adalah.org/upfiles/2011/Solitary_confinement_position_paper_English.pdf ] during interrogation up to 30 days; complete isolation as a disciplinary measure; and long-term and prolonged solitary confinement, referred to as "separation".

Prisoners in "separation" are held alone in a cell or together with another prisoner, either when the security services believe that a prisoner poses a threat to the safety of others, to "state security", or when he or she is threatened by others; or when a prisoner suffers from mental health problems and is thus believed to pose a threat to the remaining prisoner population.

Health impact of prolonged solitary confinement

Past research [ http://solitaryconfinement.org/uploads/sourcebook_web.pdf ] provides much evidence of the negative health impacts of solitary confinement, particularly for those with pre-existing mental health disorders.

"Prisoners put in solitary confinement because of mental health issues see their condition worsening. Those put in isolation when still healthy become mentally ill," Amany Dayif said. Possible effects of solitary confinement [ http://solitaryconfinement.org/uploads/sourcebook_web.pdf ] are sleep disorders, depressions, psychotic disorders, such as visual and auditory hallucinations, paranoia, disorientation, confusion and cognitive disorders.

According to Physicians for Human Rights-Israel, IPS has also kept prisoners with "adjustment problems" in separation, who have difficulties integrating into the social environment of the prison. After prolonged isolation, they often develop serious mental health problems.

"Administrative detention"

"Administrative detention" is a form of detention without charge or trial that is authorized by administrative order instead of judicial decree. According to the Israeli human rights NGO B'Tselem, international law allows "administrative detention" as a last resort to prevent danger, but Israeli practice violates these restrictions. [ http://www.btselem.org/topic/administrative_detention ]

"If there was a clear charge, if I would only know why. Why don't they send my husband to court? But this never happens. Instead, his detention is based on a secret file and no one knows what that file is," Nazmeh Mustafa said. Her husband, Wasfe Kabaha, was meant to become minister of prisoner affairs after Hamas won the 2006 Palestinian legislative elections. But he was soon arrested during a wider Israeli crackdown on Hamas. Released after three years in 2009, he was put under "administrative detention" several times since then.

Over the years, Israel has put thousands of Palestinians under "administrative detention", based on secret intelligence information and without charge or trial, thereby denying detainees proper legal defence, B'Tselem said. [ http://www.btselem.org/administrative_detention ] The legal basis for "administrative detention" lies in Israeli military legislation applied on all Palestinians in the West Bank. The so-called Administrative Detention Order allows military commanders to order the detention of a Palestinian if he has "reasonable cause to believe that reasons of security... require that a particular person be detained". [ http://www.btselem.org/sites/default/files/administrative_detention_military_order_1591_eng.pdf ] The maximum period of six months can be extended if the "cause" persists.

The Israeli army has justified the use of "administrative detention" under the pretext of security in the past.

"The army must have evidence that people in administrative detention pose some kind of security threat," Yoram Schweitzer, an expert at the Israeli Institute for National Security Studies (INSS), told IRIN.

The information underlying administrative detention is usually collected by Israel's intelligence network. Presenting such information during a fair trial could also reveal much about the network itself, said an Israeli army official who preferred anonymity.

However, the UN Committee for the Elimination of Racial Discrimination (CERD) concluded [ http://www2.ohchr.org/english/bodies/cerd/docs/CERD.C.ISR.CO.14-16.pdf ] that Israel's policy of "administrative detention" is not justifiable as a security imperative, and expressed concern over "the existence of two sets of laws", for Palestinians and Jewish settlers, who reside in the same territory, but are not subject to the same justice system.

"Administrative detention" has also provoked international criticism. UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon called on Israel [ http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=41959&Cr=palestin&Cr1 ] to either release or charge the administrative detainees and put them on trial. EU foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton expressed similar criticism. [ http://eeas.europa.eu/delegations/israel/press_corner/all_news/news/2012/20120217_02_en.htm ]

A major concern about "administrative detention" has been its use for detaining Palestinian minors, often because they threw stones at Israeli soldiers. Ill-treatment during their detention has been documented [ http://www.dci-palestine.org/sites/default/files/report_0.pdf ] and often results in traumatic repercussions after their release. [ http://www.irinnews.org/Report/95161/ISRAEL-OPT-Helping-ex-detainee-children-cope-with-trauma ]

Prisoners from Gaza: "Unlawful combatants"

Similar to the conditions under "administrative detention", some Palestinians from the Gaza Strip can be detained without being charged or put on trial for an unlimited period of time under the so-called Unlawful Combatants Law.

"As Israel doesn't legally consider Gaza as being occupied, they cannot detain people under administrative detention, so they use another law originally created for Lebanese," said Amany Dayif of Physicians for Human Rights, adding that such detention can be renewed for an unlimited period of time.

Currently, only one of the 453 prisoners and detainees from Gaza is detained as an "unlawful combatant": Mahmud Sarsak, a Palestinian soccer player from the Gaza Strip who is still on hunger strike and has been detained since July 2008 without charge. On 1 June, he entered his 74th day and reportedly [ http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=491143 ] faced immediate danger to his life.

NGOs have called on Israel to allow independent doctors to examine him, as the physical impact of a prolonged hunger strike is severe and needs proper monitoring.

Managing hunger during the strike

The physical impacts of a long-term hunger strike are intense, while particular danger lies in possible heart failure. According to Physicians for Human Rights-Israel, hunger strikers pass the life-endangering threshold after about 42 days without food, when malfunctioning of internal organs can occur. Most Palestinian hunger strikers took vitamins, minerals and salt, in addition to water. The long-term strikers Bilal Diab and Thaer Halahleh lost the ability to drink properly after 55 days and had difficulties swallowing. As a means to escalate their strike, they sometimes refused taking the supplements.

The long-term health repercussions after the hunger strike need to be monitored too. "After 77 days of starvation, going back to eat is also life endangering. You need specialists, neurologists, internal medicine," Amany Dayif said, adding that IPS medical care was insufficient.

The IPS denied the accusation. "We have doctors in the prisons checking hunger strikers' health every day. Since the strike is over, we are taking care that prisoners are eating slowly and that nothing hurts them," Sivan Weizman, IPS spokesperson, told IRIN.

The right to visit

When Palestinian prisoners went on hunger strike, their relatives pitched solidarity tents in their home towns and were also fighting their own battle for improved conditions of family visits.

For Nazmeh Mustafa from Jenin, visiting her husband in an Israeli prison has become a routine ordeal. She regularly takes a 12-hour-journey, crossing from oPt via military checkpoints into Israel, for a short meeting of 45 minutes.

"Once I left Jenin at 7am and came back at 11pm. The checkpoint was full of people," Nazmeh Mustafa said ahead of a recent visit to the prison. "Only my two youngest daughters and I can visit. My 21-year-old son saw his father once in six years," she added.

Only immediate family members of Palestinians, such as spouses, parents, siblings, and children, are allowed to visit relatives in Israeli prisons. Any over 15 need to apply for a visiting permit through the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC), which forwards the applications to the issuing authority, the Israeli Civil Administration.

There are two kinds of visiting permits: A one-year permit that allows visits about every two weeks, and a so-called security permit, which allows only for a single visit within 45 days, sometimes a few times a year. But for young men aged 16-35, security permits are rare, usually issued only once a year, Dima Mahajneh, field officer at the Jenin office of the ICRC, told IRIN. "No matter if they pose a real security threat, or not."

The ICRC mediates between the relatives and the Israeli authorities in issuing permits and organizes the transportation, but the process is nevertheless difficult for prisoners' relatives.

"The whole mechanism of applying for permits is highly bureaucratic. It takes months and months to get a permit. And most don't get any permit in the end," Hamoked's Dani Shenhar said.

The Fourth Geneva Convention (Article 116) [ http://www.icrc.org/ihl.nsf/full/380 ] regulates the right to visit, saying that "every internee shall be allowed to receive visitors, especially near relatives, at regular intervals and as frequently as possible".

"I really hope that Israel will improve the conditions for family visits after this agreement," said Aber Issa Zakarni. Since her husband was arrested in December 2011, she has not seen him. Her 22-year-old daughter Zeina was denied a permit, too, "because of security reasons", she said. Only Zeina's seven-year-old sister Yaffa has seen her father regularly.

"Once she cried so much that an officer let her through the door to hug her father," Aber said, adding: "I believe that the hunger strike was the only weapon left to the prisoners. Israel can detain us in a cell, but under occupation it feels like in prison anyway."

ah/eo/cb

[ENDS]


This report on line: http://www.IRINnews.org/report.aspx?ReportID=95580

Thursday July 12, 2012, 10:48 am
Charles A writes:

"The article is so dirty and biased, and taken from so well known hate web site, that I do not trust a word from it.

That's exactly how I respond when I read your posts.

I hear a catechism of hatred being recited, over and over, like a broken record. "???

If this is how you answer me, doesn't it mean that you yourself follow exactly that "catechism of hatred" in which you accuse me now?

Charles A writes:
"I'm a critic of Islam. It is my least favorite religion. I admit that my negative view of Islam may be due to prejudice, since I am not well informed.
But at least I can see beyond the negativity: I see that Muslims are still human beings and should be treated as such. Can you say the same? "

For me the question of religion itself is irrelevant. The issue is of what its followers do to themselves and to other people. For me, the woman killed in Afganistan in Honour Killing is no less Muslim than her killers, and yet I will support the woman and accuse the killers. I would not lump them together, the victim and the militants, just because they happen to be Muslims, and I will not use the body of helpless abused victim as a human shield to her murderers.

Charles A writes:
"When Israel treats Palestinians (some of whom are Christians, by the way) like insects to be stomped on and exterminated, I take offense. Do you take offense? "
I take offence, when Israel or any other country, or other person, is accused in something it did not do. As of now, Arabs and Jews are enemies at war. And yet despite than, Israel not only gave its own Arabs much more rights then many Arab countries have, but Israel treats them better than US or Canada treated their enemy aliens during WWII. The fact of growing Arab immigration to Israel from Egypt and other places proves all the nonsense of "like insects to be stomped on and exterminated" to be not a mistake, but a vicious lie, designed to spread hatred, and not to pursue the truth.

I don't think Arabs are entitled to have ALL Middle East land, period. They have to learn how to share it with others - and not only with Jews. Arabs did not give their own state to a single minority suffering under their dictate - to Druze, Bahai, Kurds, Ishmaeli, etc. Arab states either exterminated their own Jews, or ethnically cleansed vast majority of them, leaving the rest to live a live of fear, and yet you don't say a word in support of any of those minorities.

I don't consider Arabs less native people to Palestine/Land of Israel, because millions that now are claiming to be "Palestinian" are simply descendants of those who worked in Israel between Jun 1946 and May 1948, just for two years! That made them "natives", "refugees forever", recipients of our tax money via UNWRA and other bonuses! With 22 votes in UN given to one ethnic group this scam is not a wonder!

Does this racist exclusivity, that Arab "refugees" enjoy while living in Arab countries, while no other ethnic group gets the same upsets you? Or, as long as money comes to Arabs you are OK, and will complain only when Israel, which accomodated much more real refugees from Arab states, does?

Those who spoke about pushing others into the sea was Arafat and his terrorist buddies, not "Zionists". Zionists tell Arabs not to leave, when Arab states tell them to get out so not be hurt when "Victorious Armies of One Arab Nation" will crush Israel. Traitors left their former neighbors to fight and die, those who wanted to live together with Jews - Druze - stood and fought together, and are living peacefully and have exactly the same rights as all the other Israelis do.

Thursday July 12, 2012, 11:23 am
Here is an article how Zionists/Israelis are helping Syrian Arabs - at a time when Syria and Israel are technically at war: http://www.care2.com/news/member/536648089/3409890.

Israel helped Jordanian Arabs and Egyptian Arabs at their times of need to.

"In return", Arab states instigated the Boycott and Divestment Hate campaign, second such major campaign after Nazis.

Charles, where do you expect my sympathy be?

Thursday July 12, 2012, 12:47 pm
So whats your point Bob? Is it to promulgate the destruction of all Arabs, and the elevation of the state of Israel to the status of sainthood?

Thursday July 12, 2012, 1:01 pm
Why??? Let Arabs live, and let those who are fighting for their independence - Druze, Bahai, Kurds - also live.

Let Arab states take responsibility for their people, share their huge land mass with them, stop the nonsense of religious militancy, extremism and barbarity and start contributing to the world civilization better things than advises on how to make home-made bombs!

Israel should be left in peace on its tiny land as well. 22 Arab states have 10,000 more land than Israel, they have room for farmers if they stop wars and militants.

Michael, Is it too much to ask?

Thursday July 12, 2012, 3:47 pm
Definitely not NOTEWORTHY - I wonder why Kit considered it necessary to repeat ad nauseum - what we could read for ourselves by visiting the site? Kudos to Bob A for his input. The rest of you would have been high achievers in Hitler's Germany.

Thursday July 12, 2012, 4:15 pm
...I am speachless...how about if ALL C2 members would prefer to follow the road map for PEACE and respect each other ???!! And those who choose to defend Israel's actions should know they're fighting a losing battle.

Thursday July 12, 2012, 8:49 pm
Sorry Androniki - the Israelis will never lose - they are the only democracy in the M.E. As for Kit blathering about blatant criticism - what are you doing Kit. Your posts spread dissention everywhere. What do the Arabs do for democracy - where have they every achieved anything of note? Israel has- this year saved the lives of 140 sick children from 13 different countries, trained 11 doctors, screened over 450 children. Israel does much to benefit mankind - what do the Arabs do? I can tell you - NOTHING.

Thursday July 12, 2012, 9:16 pm
Charles O.
I usually find your rants about Israel so tedious that I can't be bothered to answer them. You are very fond of using fallacious quotes from Israeli leaders which can be found by anyone at this rabid Israel hate site.

http://rense.com/general77/disturb.htm

These quotes are either totally untrue or taken out of context to show prominent Israelis in a bad light.
I have neither the time nor the inclination to correct all the misleading things you write but I'll give the true version of the Menachim Begin quote above.

First of all, Mr. Begin never said those words and there is no factual basis for that quote. When we searched for the quote, we found that it looped back to the same text by Texe Marrs, who does not say that he is quoting Begin.

Further research at this site showed that the quote was attributed to "Amnon Kapeliouk's article "Begin and the Beasts" (New Statesman, June 25, 1982) which was infamous for having misrepresented some remarks Menachem Begin said in a speech to the Knesset, and there are legitimate sources all over the net that make reference to that incident.

However, the misrepresented quote is not the one cited ("Our race is the Master Race", etc.), but another one entirely (see below). Clearly, someone invented the "Master Race" quote and then tacked on Amnon Kapeliouk as the source, to give it credibility. However, even the REAL (and far less offensive) quote has now been proven to have been misrepresented by Kapeliouk.

The REAL story involving Kapeliouk's article is provided by a media-watch group called CAMERA (Committee for Accuracy in Middle East Reporting in America), which regularly debunks bogus news reports and misquotes.

...Internet hate sites, as well as Fisk, attribute the derogation of Palestinians as “two-legged beasts” to former Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin. The source generally given is:

Menachem Begin, as quoted in Amnon Kapeliouk, "Begin and the Beasts, "New Statesman, June 25, 1982

Indeed, the radical French-Israeli journalist, Amnon Kapeliouk, did attribute such a quote to Begin in his New Statesman article criticizing Israel’s invasion of Lebanon. The author posited:

For this reason the government has gone to extraordinary lengths to dehumanize the Palestinians. Begin described them in a speech in the Knesset as "beasts walking on two legs

However, further investigation by CAMERA reveals that the actual speech upon which Kapeliouk based his quote, as well as news reports at the time demonstrate that the journalist distorted the quote, giving it a completely different tone and meaning. Begin was referring not to "the Palestinians" in a general sense but very specifically, he was referring to terrorists who target children within Israel...Kapeliouk neither recanted nor apologized for his deception...

Charles, you lack either integrity or impartiality or probably both, but then so do many on your side of this divide.

Friday July 13, 2012, 1:23 am

Absolutely ridiculous to call the government of Israel a democracy.
Look how the 'one and only 'democracy' treatening their own people - in fact females:

Women’s rights are under attack in Israel

Friday July 13, 2012, 2:27 am
Here's a few quotes for you, Charles, though I doubt it will make any difference to your entrenched position. I don't bear you any ill will either. Just wish you could take your blinkers off once in a while.
"Israel is not a legitimate entity, and no amount of pressure can force us to recognize its right to exist."
-Dr. Mahmud Al-Zahar, Hamas leader in Gaza, Washington Times, February 4, 2006

"Before Israel dies, it must be humiliated and degraded. Allah willing, before they die, they will experience humiliation and degradation every day."
-Dr. Mahmud Al-Zahar, Hamas leader in Gaza, Washington Times, February 4, 2006

"Neither the liberation of the Gaza Strip nor the liberation of the West Bank or even Jerusalem will suffice us. Hamas will pursue the armed struggle until the liberation of all our lands. We don't recognize the state of Israel or its right to hold onto one inch of Palestine. Palestine is an Islamic land belonging to all the Muslims."
-Dr. Mahmud al-Zahar, Hamas leader in Gaza, The Jerusalem Post, August 18, 2005

"Tomorrow, our nation will sit on the throne of the world. This is not a figment of the imagination, but a fact. Tomorrow we will lead the world, Allah willing."
-Khalid al-Mish'al, leader of Hamas, Al-Jazeera TV, February 3, 2006

"She [Hamas suicide bomber Re'em Al-Riyashi] is not going to be the last because the march of resistance will continue until the Islamic flag is raised, not only over the minarets of Jerusalem, but over the whole universe."
-Dr. Mahmud Al-Zahar, Hamas leader in Gaza, Associated Press, January 15, 2004

If you are an admirer of Robert Fisk then you really are desperate.

Israel is not a legitimate entity, and no amount of pressure can force us to recognize its right to exist."
-Dr. Mahmud Al-Zahar, Hamas leader in Gaza, Washington Times, February 4, 2006

"Before Israel dies, it must be humiliated and degraded. Allah willing, before they die, they will experience humiliation and degradation every day."
-Dr. Mahmud Al-Zahar, Hamas leader in Gaza, Washington Times, February 4, 2006

"Neither the liberation of the Gaza Strip nor the liberation of the West Bank or even Jerusalem will suffice us. Hamas will pursue the armed struggle until the liberation of all our lands. We don't recognize the state of Israel or its right to hold onto one inch of Palestine. Palestine is an Islamic land belonging to all the Muslims."
-Dr. Mahmud al-Zahar, Hamas leader in Gaza, The Jerusalem Post, August 18, 2005

"Tomorrow, our nation will sit on the throne of the world. This is not a figment of the imagination, but a fact. Tomorrow we will lead the world, Allah willing."
-Khalid al-Mish'al, leader of Hamas, Al-Jazeera TV, February 3, 2006

"She [Hamas suicide bomber Re'em Al-Riyashi] is not going to be the last because the march of resistance will continue until the Islamic flag is raised, not only over the minarets of Jerusalem, but over the whole universe."
-Dr. Mahmud Al-Zahar, Hamas leader in Gaza, Associated Press, January 15, 2004

I could add another hundred similar quotes but I know it won't change your thinking one iota.

Friday July 13, 2012, 3:18 am

Or how the RottenChild Fascist Police State with the name Israel ' Bob: The One and only Democracy in the ME'... dealing with all his citizen:

Israel: Violent Protests Across Tel Aviv #J14

Friday July 13, 2012, 3:25 am
Parsifal. Was your's a serious comment?

How many Israeli women have been executed today for alleged adultery?
How many Israeli women have suffered genital mutilation?
How many Israeli women have had acid thrown at them?
How many Israeli women have been subjected to honour killings?
How many Israeli women have been denied the most basic human rights such as driving a car?
How many Israeli women have been denied even the most basic education?
How many Israeli women are treated worse than donkeys or camels?
How many Israeli women have to cover themselves from head to toe and look like cockroaches?

I could go on but I know you won't have any answers to my questions. Perhaps Charles can help.

Friday July 13, 2012, 4:33 am
Send a Green Star to stan b.

Sending a Green Star is a simple way to say "Thank you"
You cannot currently send a star to stan because you have done so within the last week.
Stan also wrote: “I have neither the time nor the inclination to correct all the misleading things you write.”

Absolutely Stan, this whole article and most of the comments on this thread is such an outrageous bunch of lies, so many too, that I can come to no other conclusion than it being strongly anti-Semitic. (One or even two lies that demonize Israel can perhaps be excused as misinformation or ignorance .. but this amount?!)

There is no point in giving anti-Semites correct and true information (it’s a complete waste of time, effort and energy); because they will fly with their demonizing lies to the bitter end.

Friday July 13, 2012, 4:38 am
Kudos to you Stan for your postworthy and honest comments. We would send you more green stars if we could. Charlie O is not one to back down gracefully, unfortunately. It takes a MAN to admit he may have erred in his diatribe.......

Friday July 13, 2012, 5:25 am

And how the 'one and only democracy in the ME' treating its minorities:

Israel set to uproot 30,000 of its own Bedouin citizens

Friday July 13, 2012, 5:30 am

Alexandra R. Friday July 13, 2012, 4:33 am

'There is no point in giving anti-Semites correct and true information...'

albeit I do not answer to shills, your answer doies without any logic, maybe you should start getting educated ?

Just google 'anti semites'.

:-)

Friday July 13, 2012, 8:07 am

Charles, you are so absolutely right about 'Master Race'
I am not so sure what their god promised to the Z'sphere people but MY God is a God of Forgiveness and Love and created never anything like 'races' - but males and females.

Did you, for instance know, the HAMAS is a false flag, run by Tel Aviv (Mossad) to make sure there NEVER ever can be Peace between Palestine and the unlegitime govermnent of Israel ?

It is a long read , however I divided into many chapters, a summary of different worldwide independent researching people coming to the same conclusion:

This is what Israel doesn't tell you about Hamas

Friday July 13, 2012, 8:25 am
Charles wrote:
"Palestinians do not belong to Arabs! " Nobody argues with that.

If you use the word "Palestinians" to address the population of the area called Palestine, than it includes Jordan, Syrian, Lebanon, Israel and some of Egypt.

If you use the word "Palestinians" as limited to "Palestinian Refugees" from Israel, than it is limited to the Arabs, because Druze stood with Jews to fight off the aggression of the Arab states.

I am not sure how Hitler contributes to this discussion, even though his books is bestseller in Arab countiries. Of course, Zionists tried to ransom Jews and negotiated with Nazi, the same way they negotiated with Hesbola and Hamas to save Jews from death.

Charles, you seem to know about Iran more than about Arab affairs, they are Sunni and you support Shia. You need to learn more on the topic. Before people will start talking you comments, you need to erase from people's memory Nasser's movement of One Arab Nation, disband Arab League, reform Islam to not impose Muslim Umma as a Master Race and do lots of other tasks.

Friday July 13, 2012, 8:34 am
Parcifal: "how the RottenChild Fascist Police State with the name Israel "???

Parcifal, which words do you have for iran, Saudi Arabia, Afganistan, Iraq, Lebabon, the rest of the Arab League? It must be much, much worse, for all the stonings, amputations, arsons, honour killings, jealosy and strife they do, than Israel does not.

Friday July 13, 2012, 9:43 am

Latest development, not covered by the media:
Armed Israeli Drones killing a 12 years boy in Gaza Stripe:

DRONES OVER GAZA ('They Have Killed My Only Child')

Friday July 13, 2012, 10:59 am

Yep Ralph.

Also
I am longing expecting and looking forward for the moment, when poor Israelis eventually discover they are trapped like most of the so called 'non rogue states' to excape the Rottenchild bondage of their corrupt government(s) in all ...

Friday July 13, 2012, 1:17 pm
Lebanese hospital refused to treat Palestinian Arab boy, who died at the entrance, while Israel helped Palestinian Arabs in Gaza while at war with Hamas.

The problem is that many uneducated Arabs and Iranians cannot see through the screen of hatred built by Islamists and follow after their murderous leaders to the point of their own misery and destruction, even worse from where they are now.

Friday July 13, 2012, 1:18 pm
Also taken from one of Parsifal's links (http://stommel.tamu.edu/~baum/ethel/2002_03_31_ethel-archive.html):
"QUOTE OF THE WEEK

"Why should the Arabs make peace? If I were an Arab leader, I would never make terms with Israel. That is natural: we have taken their country. Sure, God promised it to us, but what does that matter to them? There has been anti-Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They only see one thing: we came here and stole their country. Why should they accept that?"

David Ben-Gurion

Friday July 13, 2012, 2:33 pm
Kit B: "Political discussions about the policies of any country are fair game. "

The last paragraph: "The lesson is clear. Beware of the Useful Idiots who live in liberal democracies. Knowingly or unknowingly, they serve as the greatest volunteer and effective soldiers of [Political] Islam.
[ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCyA5LmLPhM&feature=player_embedded ]. They pave the way for the advancement of Islam and they will assuredly be among the very first victims of [Political] Islam as soon as it assumes power."

Islam’s Useful Idiots
Posted on July 8, 2011 by creeping
Amil Imani writing at Canada Free Press, Islam’s Useful Idiots.


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Islam enjoys a large and influential ally among non-Muslims: A new generation of “Useful Idiots,” that Lenin identified living in liberal democracies who furthered the work of communism. This new generation of Useful Idiots also live in liberal democracies, but serves the cause of Islamofascism—another virulent form of totalitarian ideology.

Useful Idiots are naïve, they are foolish, they are ignorant of facts, they are unrealistically idealistic, they are dreamers and they are willfully in denial or deceptive. They hail from the ranks of the chronically unhappy. They are anarchists, they are aspiring revolutionaries, they are neurotics who are at war with life, the disaffected alienated from government, corporations, and just about any and all institutions of society. The Useful Idiot can be a billionaire, a movie star, an academe of renown, a politician, or from any other segment of the population. Arguably, the most dangerous variant of the Useful Idiot is the “Politically Correct.” He is the master practitioner of euphemism, hedging, doubletalk, and outright deception.

The Useful Idiot derives satisfaction from being anti-establishment. He finds perverse gratification in aiding the forces that aim to dismantle an existing order, whatever it may be: an order he neither approves of nor feels he belongs to.

The Useful Idiot is conflicted and dishonest. He fails to look inside himself and discover the causes of his own problems and unhappiness while he readily enlists himself in causes that validate his distorted perception.

Understandably, it is easier to blame others and the outside world than to examine oneself with an eye to self-discovery and self-improvement. Furthermore, criticizing and complaining—liberal practices of the Useful Idiot—require little talent and energy. The Useful Idiot is a great armchair philosopher and “Monday Morning Quarterback.”

The Useful Idiot is not the same as a person who honestly has a different point of view. A society without honest and open differences of views is a dead society. Critical, different and fresh ideas are the life blood of a living society—the very anathema of autocracies where the official position is sacrosanct.

Even a “normal” person spends a great deal more energy aiming to fix things out there than working to overcome his own flaws and shortcomings, or contribute positively to the larger society. People don’t like to take stock of what they are doing or not doing that is responsible for the conditions of which they disapprove.

But the Useful Idiot takes things much farther. The Useful Idiot, among other things, is a master practitioner of scapegoating. He assigns blame to others while absolving himself of responsibility, has a long handy list of candidates for blaming anything and everything, and by living a distorted life, he contributes to the ills of society.

The Useful Idiot may even engage in willful misinformation and deception when it suits him. Terms such as “Political Islam,” or “Radical Islam,” for instance, are contributions of the Useful Idiot. These terms do not even exist in the native parlance of Islam, simply because they are redundant. Islam, by its very nature and according to its charter—the Quran—is a radical political movement. It is the Useful Idiot who sanitizes Islam and misguides the populace by saying that the “real Islam” constitutes the main body of the religion; and, that this main body is non-political and moderate.

Regrettably, a large segment of the population goes along with these nonsensical euphemisms depicting Islam because it prefers to believe them. It is less threatening to believe that only a hijacked small segment of Islam is radical or politically driven and that the main body of Islam is indeed moderate and non-political.

But Islam is political to the core. In Islam the mosque and State are one and the same—the mosque is the State. This arrangement goes back to the days of Muhammad himself. Islam is also radical in the extreme. Even the “moderate” Islam is radical in its beliefs as well as its deeds. Muslims believe that all non-Muslims, bar none, are hellfire bound and well-deserve being maltreated compared to believers.

No radical barbaric act of depravity is unthinkable for Muslims in dealing with others. They have destroyed precious statues of Buddha, leveled sacred monuments of other religions, and bulldozed the cemeteries of non-Muslims—a few examples of their utter extreme contempt toward others.

Muslims are radical even in their intrafaith dealings. Various sects and sub-sects pronounce other sects and sub-sects as heretics worthy of death; women are treated as chattel, deprived of many rights; hands are chopped for stealing even a loaf of bread; sexual violation is punished by stoning, and much much more. These are standard day-to-day ways of the mainstream “moderate” Muslims living under the stone-age laws of Sharia.

The “moderate” mainstream of Islam has been outright genocidal from inception. Their own historians record that Ali, the first imam of the Shiite and the son-in-law of Muhammad, with the help of another man, beheaded 700 Jewish men in the presence of the Prophet himself. The Prophet of Allah and his disciples took the murdered men’s women and children in slavery. Muslims have been, and continue to be, the most vicious and shameless practitioner of slavery. The slave trade, even today, is a thriving business in some Islamic lands where wealthy, perverted sheiks purchase children of the poor from traffickers for their sadistic gratification.

Muslims are taught deception and lying in the Quran itself—something that Muhammad practiced during his life whenever he found it expedient. Successive Islamic rulers and leaders have done the same. Khomeini, the founder of the 1979 Iranian Revolution, for instance, rallied the people under the banner of democracy. All along his support for democracy was not a commitment of an honest man, but a ruse. As soon as he gathered the reins of power, Khomeini went after the Useful Idiots of his time with vengeance. These best children of Iran, having been thoroughly deceived and used by the crafty phony populist-religionist, had to flee the country to avoid the fate of tens of thousands who were imprisoned or executed by the double-crossing imam.

Almost three decades after the tragic Islamic Revolution of 1979, the suffocating rule of Islam casts its death-bearing pall over Iranians. A proud people with enviable heritage is being systematically purged of its sense of identity and forced to think and behave like the barbaric and intolerant Muslims. Iranians who had always treated women with equality, for instance, have seen them reduced by the stone-age clergy to sub-human status of Islamic teaching. Any attempt by the women of Iran to counter the misogynist rule of Muhammad’s mullahs is mercilessly suppressed. Women are beaten, imprisoned, raped and killed just as men are slaughtered without due process or mercy.

The lesson is clear. Beware of the Useful Idiots who live in liberal democracies. Knowingly or unknowingly, they serve as the greatest volunteer and effective soldiers of Islam. They pave the way for the advancement of Islam and they will assuredly be among the very first victims of Islam as soon as it assumes power.

Friday July 13, 2012, 4:06 pm
Parsifal. You were unable or unwilling to answer a single one of the simple questions I asked you. Instead you just post more and more rhetoric from Israel hate sites. This is what I expected.
Here's a little news item you might find illuminating.

"Hamas police forces on Sunday brought in bulldozers to begin demolishing houses belonging to Palestinians in the Gaza Strip, forcibly evicting the families authorities said were squatting on government land.

Only hours before on Saturday night, the Hamas forces had arrested many of the male members of the 120-family Abu Amra clan who claim they have been living on this nearly four acre site since 1948.

By Sunday morning, the women of the Abu Amra families and the children clinging to their mothers, watched in disbelief as the bulldozers crumpled their cinderblock homes, filling the air with thick clouds of dust.

The scene was reminiscent of demolition by Israel of illegally-built Palestinian homes, or the destruction of more than 1,000 homes belonging to the Jewish residents of Israeli communities in the Gaza Strip just prior to Israel's unilateral withdrawal from Gaza in 2005.

The demolition followed extended, but ultimately futile, negotiations between the Hamas government's Land Authority and the Abu Amra families. Officials said they had offered alternative housing and compensation, and had also issued eight previous warnings, but all were rejected and unheeded.

Family members said that Hamas offered land near Deir al-Balah next to the Karni crossing into Israel, but they rejected the offer as being too dangerous because the land was close to the border fence where Israel shoots at anyone coming to near.

"Eastern Gaza, near the Karni crossing, is a very dangerous area. It's under constant Israeli activity, whether shooting or invasions. It's also constantly bombed and shelled by Israel. We will not move there and die," one member of the Abu Amra families, who spoke on condition that he not be named, told The Media Line.

The demolition site is on the western side of the coastal city in the Tal Al Hawa district near Al Azhar University. The families claim they have rightfully owned 3.7 acres of the land and have been residing there since 1948, when tens of thousands of Palestinian refugees flooded into the narrow strip."

Friday July 13, 2012, 4:09 pm
Charles. If you used any more spin you'd disappear in a hole in the ground. Please remember that not all Care 2 contributors are naive simpletons.
Interesting article about :" useful idiots " Alex. We are unfortunately seeing more and more of them.
Green star on its way.

Friday July 13, 2012, 10:52 pm

What is this weird Zionist devoid-of-meaning-chatter about ?
It is for money !

Israeli students to get $2,000 to spread state propaganda on Facebook

Reminds me so much to an old Croatian saying:
'If you deal with dirt you will sink into the cesspool'

Saturday July 21, 2012, 6:22 am
Is it 1984? Reject the Levy Committee Report!



It seems to be 1984. George Orwell gave us, in his book by that name, the term “Doublethink,” in which “war is peace, freedom is slavery, and ignorance is strength.” The Levy Committee – an Israeli government Committee- with a straight face expects us to believe that occupation can be erased simply by defining it out of existence. But no one does believe it.


The committee’s report states that Israel is not an occupier in the West Bank. It asserts that establishing settlements in the West Bank does not violate international law. It recommends legalizing illegal settlement construction. It suggests facilitating additional settlement in the West Bank. Finally, it recommends permitting Israeli settlers to register land ownership in the West Bank. This is outrageous!


Prime Minister Netanyahu is preparing the report for government discussion. Right now, some officials are planning to submit a bill to the Knesset that would enshrine the Levy committee's recommendations in Israeli law. Adopting the recommendations of the report would cause terrible damage to Israel’s international standing. The relationship between Israel and the United States would be deeply undermined. Prospects for peace with the Palestinians and the Arab world would be devastated. Adopting these recommendations would be a definitive statement that the current government has no respect for the rule of law, for the commitments of previous governments to remove illegal outposts, or for the interests of the 96% of Israelis who are not part of the ideological settlement enterprise.


Tell Ambassador Oren: The Levy report cannot be accepted as law!

http://wfc2.wiredforchange.com/o/8682/p/dia/action/public/?action_KEY=8765