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Climate Change and the Next US Revolution

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"...the American political system is not ready to agree to a [climate] treaty that would force the United States, over time, to accept profound changes in its energy [coal, oil], transport [trucking and airline industry] and manufacturing [corporate]->

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John F (52)
Sunday July 29, 2012, 8:37 pm
overpowering the fake science and right-wing media - funded by corporate cash - to convince Americans otherwise.
And who is promoting Anthropogenic Global Warming for all they are worth ? A bureaucracy of the United Nations charged with convincing the world to remit a tax on the use of energy to its coffers.

I haven't been chasing the climate chimera this past 2 1/2 years not to realize the Con is On.
Note the avatar on the last link.

Keeping the U.S. outside an international energy treaty gives the U.S. a version of trade advantage difficult for individual nations to deal with. They are signing away ability to deal with changes in fortune for themselves - and freezing the poor to boot. Check out the effects of winter on the reserves. Chavez' cheap oil was a Godsend.

Past Member (0)
Sunday July 29, 2012, 8:54 pm
Raising animals for human food uses 30% of the Earth's land mass. That's about the same size as Asia! The moon has less area than that, at 14.6 million sq miles.
More than 260 million acres of U.S. forest have been cleared to create cropland to grow grain to feed farmed animals. Corn destroys to intestines and stomachs of steers and cows. GMOs and pesticides, whether sprayed or systemic, are destroy bees/pollinators, soil, air, human and animal health, and corrupt organic crops.
The equivalent of 7 football fields of land are bulldozed every minute to create room for farmed animals.
Livestock grazing is the number one cause of plant species becoming threatened or going extinct in the U.S.
70% of grain and cereals grown in the U.S. are fed to farmed animals. 90% of corn is.
Animals eat large quantities of grain, soybeans, oats, and corn; however, they only produce a comparatively small amount of meat, dairy products, or eggs in return.

Eternal G (745)
Monday July 30, 2012, 4:46 pm
It's just appalling what's happening, money over everything... can't help for coming back to Roseanne Barr over and over again...amazed as well that she and/or the Greens aren't mentioned more on this site.
A revolution seems very much necessary but by all means LET IT BE A GREEN ONE!!!

R.B.: "A new method of counting votes, a more intelligent method of counting votes. Say, for instance, say I get 3 percent of the vote, Obama gets 50 percent and Romney gets 47 percent. The winner-take-all system of counting the votes is completely ridiculous. What should happen, as it does in most civilized countries is that each of us receives a vote in the houses of power where public money is apportioned because we were voted by citizens. In other words it should be proportional, not-winner-take all. Every candidate who wins any kind of vote should be included in a parliamentary-style government.

I think this government is broken and unfixable, and it needs to be tossed out and replaced with a parliamentary government. This one is just a whored-out bunch of prostitutes who work for big money. Big money is what’s in the saddle and the citizens of this country are down on all fours."

Vallee R (280)
Monday July 30, 2012, 5:50 pm
Unsure if is climate change or the globalist's tactics gone wrong.... but either case - things are changing and not for the good -

Giana Peranio - Paz (398)
Monday July 30, 2012, 11:51 pm
This is really scary, and I am so pessimistic. As long as man is still man and politics are still politics, I see no changes in the future no matter how loud we scream and yell!! The ones with the dollars are the ones with the power and they only care about their bank account and not about the future of this earth, and what it may hold for their children and grandchildren. A very black future...

Craig Pittman (52)
Tuesday July 31, 2012, 7:51 am
This article is well expressed and points out that it is up to us to demand changes. The corporations have the money but we still have the vote. We desperately need to get involved to save a little something for our grandkids.

Kit B (276)
Tuesday July 31, 2012, 8:58 am

I fully agree Craig, and can not but notice that the two candidates we are told to chose from, steel clear of addressing the real issues. The economy will not heal itself by just continuing on a road that is nothing but a circle. Jobs are readily available by steering this economy and country toward policies that project us into a new future. We don't have to have bloody revolution, a revolution in thinking, attitudes and correct information will be far more productive.

Kit B (276)
Tuesday July 31, 2012, 9:08 am

Oops! that is *steer*

As with all elections the efforts of the candidates are focused on beguiling us with empty words. Spin us a tale of what they decide we should hear without quite getting to real needs or addressing the deeper issues.

We have already reached peak oil, prices will begin to increase as our continued need is reinforced by government catering to the Oil, Gas and Coals companies. Electric cars don't mean much as long as that electricity still comes from fossil fuel. We need to rebuild our city structures to be more toward the future, not just sprawl with out much planning. We must have clean rapid transit available to all.

JL A (281)
Tuesday July 31, 2012, 10:12 am
politicians and corporations need to embrace change, stop attempts to return to a past that not only didn't work but factors needed for the approach no longer exist and begin working towards a future that has a hope of working rather than short-sighted temporary band aids or postponement of tough choices so that there is no future and cannot be any.

Sheryl G (360)
Tuesday July 31, 2012, 3:26 pm
In the article it said: "Since Americans presumed that any sane government would be actively trying to address an issue that had the potential to destroy civilization."

That was our first mistake.

Now if you don't start voting for people who are strong environmentalist, and that may require you to look to a 3rd Party, if you can vote for 3rd Party in your State. Voting in the same jerks that keep us in this mess will be the 2nd mistake, not sure how many mistakes we got left. But I wouldn't wait until millions are going "oh crap."

When is the last time you were able to support a presidential candidate who was named “Greenest Mayor” and “One of the 15 Greenest Politicians in the World” -- and who has had many years of extensive executive and management experience?

Rocky Anderson has it all – and, organizing together, we can proudly make him our president.



Christeen A (371)
Wednesday August 1, 2012, 12:20 pm
All our elected politicians need to be replaced by people who really care.

Kit B (276)
Wednesday August 1, 2012, 12:58 pm

Only with publicly funded elections can we hope to see that change.

Sheryl G (360)
Wednesday August 1, 2012, 1:18 pm
Election Reform....Get the money out. Corporations are NOT friend.

Susan V (80)
Wednesday August 1, 2012, 1:58 pm

McKibben suggests in his Rolling Stone Article ( a divestment movement - beginning with colleges - like the one that helped bring down apartheid.


John F (52)
Thursday August 2, 2012, 5:50 pm
Options for change are being channeled into futility. I know there's a lot of cynicism about truth from Koch Bros - I don't expect it myself - but just because they lie doesn't mean others on are the side of the angels.
Technological change is suppressed. Patent law holds possibility for covert and ignored action. I don't have to go with wild conjecture to show you that either.
Because I was interested in the fate of the EV-1 and Toyota Rav 4 electric vehicles I followed 'Who Killed the Electric Car'. I got more than the story of Stan Myers mysterious death however.
Patent Encumbrance of Large Automotive NiMH Batteries

Past Member (0)
Sunday August 5, 2012, 12:32 am
Thanks for the update.

Penelope P (222)
Monday August 6, 2012, 10:48 pm
Unfortunately some of the wealyhiest people on the3 planet are engaged in oil production and that includes USA politicians and at least one president of USA-What does one expect? Koch Bros are just another lot protecting their interests.

Actually if one was to do a political breakdown of interests and drives-It might be advisable to divide the population into five or six groups with divergent interests
Lumpen prols
Lower middles-small business
Upper Middles-businessand professional
Upper Land(including agriculrure and mining interests
Upper Industrial interests and Banking stock xchange

If you think of the population this way it is easie3r to see how interests work
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