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Crows Understand Cause and Effect, Even When the Cause Is Hidden

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For the New Caledonian crow, birdbrain is a misnomer: These members of the corvid family have proved their problem-solving and tool-wielding abilities again and again.

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JL A (281)
Monday September 24, 2012, 12:35 pm
Fascinating--also aligns with the developmental concept of object permanence, that toddlers do not have (think of the peek-a-boo game)...wonder how old the crows were in the experiment...

Arielle S (313)
Monday September 24, 2012, 1:28 pm
I think ALL crows are amazing - intelligent, clever, and one of my favorites. Thanks for this post, Kit.

Kit B (276)
Monday September 24, 2012, 3:15 pm

Actually most of the crows were of adult age, however more research is expected. I found this a week or so back on web-site that very much enjoy, then found it again here in Discover. Who would expect a bird to grasp the concept of using tools? It does make one think deeper about the beauty of evolution.

. (0)
Monday September 24, 2012, 3:25 pm
Really interesting -thanks Kit.

Past Member (0)
Monday September 24, 2012, 3:52 pm
Thank you Kit. I saw shows on the Discovery Channel many years ago that demonstrated how birds (small birds like England) could learn to get food out of very complicated feeders...complicated to the point that 2 birds had to work together to get the food. And crows are even more amazing. I knew a man who trained one to "say" a few words.

Carrie B (306)
Monday September 24, 2012, 4:03 pm
Interesting. Thanks Kit.

Michela M (3964)
Monday September 24, 2012, 4:25 pm
I knew that Orangutans are known for being capable to put themselves in the other individual's place & perspective.... & being capable to fully realize the cause-effect mechanism.
This is when a child understands "if I steal the biscuits - - - my mother might be angry with me = she is right if she is angry with me --- because I'm wrong...." (i.e. the 1st step for maturity...).

Past Member (0)
Monday September 24, 2012, 5:25 pm

Dominika Styczynska (7)
Monday September 24, 2012, 11:57 pm
Yes, these are clever birds. Thanks!

Frans Badenhorst (582)
Tuesday September 25, 2012, 4:41 am
noted... thanks for a very interesting post.... crows are intelligent hey, like all animals... we underestimate them too often..

David C (131)
Tuesday September 25, 2012, 9:26 am
Crows and Ravens are very are many other animals.....

Christeen Anderson (368)
Tuesday September 25, 2012, 12:52 pm
Very interesting. Thank you.

Margery Coffey (8)
Tuesday September 25, 2012, 1:16 pm
Have talked with crows for years. They are really cool birds as are jays. There is a reason why they are revered by Native Americans. Crows warn the rest of the animals. I know of a kid who used to use his rifle to shoot anything and everything in the woods. Got so that every time he walked into the woods the crows would set up a racket so that all the wildlife would know he was there and take cover.

Kate Kenner (215)
Tuesday September 25, 2012, 1:47 pm
Well, they seem to understand it more than many people do.

John B (185)
Tuesday September 25, 2012, 2:24 pm
Thanks Kit for the link to the article. Good read and a very interesting conclusion drawn from it. Read and noted.

Muriel Servaege (53)
Tuesday September 25, 2012, 3:02 pm

Talya H (10)
Tuesday September 25, 2012, 4:47 pm
Thanks for the share!

Bette-Ann Libin (11)
Tuesday September 25, 2012, 8:02 pm
If not mentioned previously...a group of crows is called a Murder.

janet f (29)
Tuesday September 25, 2012, 8:23 pm
Crows are incredibly intelligent. There was a great PBS program about crows recently. They are ridiculously smart and resourceful. Humans are not the only animal with measurable intelligence...although we seem to think we are.

Kenneth L (314)
Tuesday September 25, 2012, 10:40 pm
I once saw a crow pick up a very hard piece of bread and walk over and drop it in a puddle, to soften it.
I've seen ravens flying upside down. Why? I don't know of any reason other than they were showing they can.
I once saw a loon (big diving bird) imitate a motorboat. I was standing on the shore of a lake when a motorboat came out of nowhere zipping around and doing a few doughnuts and making a big wake, then took off straight around a point. A few seconds later this loon comes out of nowhere flapping it's wings along the surface of the water, zipping all over the place, doing doughnuts, leaving a big wake behind it, then take off straight around a point. It immediately struck me that the boat had 'triggered' the loon sort of to say 'hey that was crazy! I can do that, watch!"

Parvez Zuberi (7)
Wednesday September 26, 2012, 2:29 am
Very interesting study these birds are really amazing

Ruth C (87)
Wednesday September 26, 2012, 5:18 am
They are very smart animals.

Kit B (276)
Wednesday September 26, 2012, 7:49 am

I have often wondered if animals are much smarter than humans and just allow us to think we are so clever.

Judith Emerson (0)
Wednesday September 26, 2012, 9:20 am
Crows are obviously quite intelligent!

Kathleen R (138)
Wednesday September 26, 2012, 5:25 pm
noted & read

Colleen Prinssen (14)
Friday September 28, 2012, 6:07 am
to bad we don't know if ducks or sandpipers do this.
it's just somone will read this and now think all animals can do this.
even a turtle.(not a bird, but still)

Melania P (122)
Friday September 28, 2012, 3:07 pm
Love crows... They remind me of Edgar Allan Poe!!
Thanks for sharing
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