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Gohmert: Time for 'Open-Minded' Conversation on Guns

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"Every mass killing of more than three people in recent history has been in a place where guns were prohibited," he said on "Fox News Sunday." "They choose this place, they know no one will be armed."

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Kit B (276)
Sunday December 16, 2012, 8:24 am
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Kit B (276)
Sunday December 16, 2012, 8:27 am
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Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Texas) said Sunday that lawmakers need to keep an open mind when discussing gun control and that having more guns, rather than fewer, would help protect citizens in future situations like the Newtown, Conn., school shooting.

"Every mass killing of more than three people in recent history has been in a place where guns were prohibited," he said on "Fox News Sunday." "They choose this place, they know no one will be armed."

He argued that if Sandy Hook Principal Dawn Hochsprung, who was killed trying to protect her students Friday, had had a gun in her office, the situation could have turned out differently.

"I wish to God she had had an M4 in her office locked up and so when she heard gunshots … she takes his head off before he can hurt those kids," he said.

Gohmert said any discussion of gun control reforms needs to be an "open-minded" one.

"Sen. [Dick] Durbin’s right, but the conversation we’ve got to have has got to have everybody open-minded," Gohmert said. "We all react emotionally, that’s why we’ve all shed tears and our prayers will continue to go to the people in Connecticut who’ve lost loved ones."


Kit B (276)
Sunday December 16, 2012, 8:37 am

It should be noted that Gohmert has that narrow and stupid point of view that if we all carry a gun no one would die from gun violence. The man has yet to open his mouth and not say something truly outrageous that has the single intention of sucking up to either the GUN or OIL and GAS lobbies.

These are the fools that must be dealt with if we are truly to fight for just the laws already on the books and not enforced because of the Gun lobby. Had a the Principal had a gun in her office she would have been a danger to herself, her students and still been a victim of a terrorist.

These people too are victims, they are victims of years of propaganda and by now, a firmly entrenched belief that only guns owned by everyone, carried at all times are the answer to solving gun violence. That this is a malicious self-serving idealization of a world of peace, created by the NRA to serve the NRA is true, but often wins the day because of huge amounts of cash donated to elected like-minded fools.

Arielle S (313)
Sunday December 16, 2012, 9:43 am
Arrrgggh....Well, gosh, if we just gave everybody big tanks to drive around, we wouldn't have so many car accidents.
People not used to killing will hesitate - the killer will not. The principal would still be dead. And this Rep. still needs some education.

Sunday December 16, 2012, 11:45 am
This brings to mind a recent tweet from Michael Moore written with biting sarcasm, "If only the first victim, Adam Lanza's mother, had been a gun owner, she could have stopped this before it started."

Considering the circumstances of this tragedy, Moore makes an important point. Gohmert and like-minded gun-obsessed NRA worshippers don't get it. They bring an unreasonable solution to a serious problem instead of looking at reality.

Robert B (60)
Sunday December 16, 2012, 12:23 pm
The "Wild West" was called that because every single idiot could carry a gun. Finally towns started to ban guns to cut down on the killings. England has reasonable gun control laws and guess what? A low rate of deaths by guns. The NRA is incompetent and our congressmen on the republican side are 'bought off" by the NRA . GEE, where does all that money come from to fund all of this crap? Gun manufacturers. They could care less about right to bear arms, they just simply want to sell guns. They'd sell them in vending machines if they could get away with it. The pro gun crowd always shrieks "don't BAN guns" when what the public wants are simple, rational and reasonable laws to control the sale of guns. We all know it will not be fool proof, we're not stupid. But the right wing gun nuts can't seem to get that.

Robert Tomlinson (62)
Sunday December 16, 2012, 3:49 pm
This is just another of Gohmert's "Blame the victims" rant. So, this son, who shot his mother, decided to go on a rampage because Conn. has stringent gun laws? Why listen to this character? He has nothing to offer.

JL A (281)
Sunday December 16, 2012, 7:26 pm
You cannot currently send a star to Judy because you have done so within the last week.
You cannot currently send a star to Robert because you have done so within the last week.

Had the principal had a gun, statistics indicate she would have been more likely to harm a student than the gunman--what a solution, eh?

Jelica R (144)
Sunday December 16, 2012, 8:05 pm
Updated list of petitions:

1. Enough vagueness. We want gun control.

2. The PetitionSite: How Many Kids Need to Die? We Need Better Gun Control NOW.

3. The PetitionSite: President Obama: We Need to Talk About Gun Control, TODAY

4. Avaaz: President Obama: Time to Talk About Gun Control

5. Today Is the Day for Common Sense Gun Regulations

6. Mayors Against Illegal Guns: Demand a Plan

7. Newtown, today we tell our leaders "No more!"

8. Daily Kos: Now is the time to talk gun control

9. Faithful America: Mike Huckabee's unchristian rhetoric about school shootings

10. AVAAZ: Tell the NRA: ENOUGH!

11. We the People: Immediately address the issue of gun control through the introduction of legislation in Congress.

Kit B (276)
Sunday December 16, 2012, 8:07 pm

Thanks Jelica - all signed.

People should know that Gohmert does have an open mind - so open that a breeze pass right through.

Greg Patterson (0)
Sunday December 16, 2012, 8:48 pm
If you ever lived in a country where the government killed MILLIONS of helpless citizens, you would realize that guns give us freedom. If you met women who have been raped (or worse) you would probably understand better that guns are good. A few bad people are what make guns "bad." Are you going to outlaw knives? Do you know how many murders every year are from knives? I could go on but it is people like you who are not "open minded" if you cannot see the propaganda AGAINST guns!

Nimue Michelle Pendragon Gaze (339)
Sunday December 16, 2012, 8:50 pm

Gloria picchetti (304)
Monday December 17, 2012, 5:43 am
What an idiot. I hope he doesn't have a gun.

Mitchell D (87)
Monday December 17, 2012, 7:18 am
Oh, yes, here we have a voice from Texas, where it is okay to gun down an innocent foreign visitor, to the U.S., in one's driveway, who is simply seeking travel directions!
Somehow this fool "knows" that perps have sought locations where people would not have their own guns, right!

Kit B (276)
Monday December 17, 2012, 7:45 am

Very poor argument , Greg Patterson. Guns in and of themselves are neither good nor bad. They are machines, some built for home use and should not be taken out of the home. Those are rarely used for self protection, but those and hunting rifle or a shot gun are all that anyone needs. No one needs to own a military grade assault rifle. Your mention rape, just how many women are able to fend off an attacker by the use or brandishing of a gun? Do you also think that we should allow guns in schools or shopping malls? The propaganda about guns comes not from those who support basic controls on the sale and purchase of assault rifles but, rather from a torrent of misinformation, propaganda and out right lies from the NRA.

Terrie Williams (798)
Monday December 17, 2012, 12:03 pm
Sittin here just shaking my head wondering why so many in one spot voted for this IIIIIIIIIIIDIOT....are they drinking the koolaid made with fracked water or what????

I agree, Kit. And we both have guns! I am one of the first in line to want better gun control and SANE ownership/regulations. All assault rifles/shotguns and more than 9 round clips is for KILLING PEOPLE ikn mass for WAR.

Some of the idiotic, careless and insane things coming out of the mouths of politicians, pundits and NRA surrogates and even (as on this thread) common people that more guns are the answer and more guns with principals being trained in and having in thier offices ASSAULT RIFLES is just crazy and disgusting. Conceal/Carry is NOT the answer....especially in schools. It all just leaves me shaking my head and wondering at all the willful ignorance and outright stupidity.

Past Member (0)
Monday December 17, 2012, 1:09 pm
Even the few responses to this post how difficult it's going to be to hold a rational conversation with irrational people.

Greg Patterson (0)
Monday December 17, 2012, 8:16 pm
Rational, open minded people will review the facts instead of getting emotional. My 5 year old is more rational and mature than several of the individuals who have posted irrational blogs against guns. You can review current history from 1,000 years ago, 100 years ago, or the last 10 years and somewhere in the world there are examples of mass genocide because citizens did not possess a means to protect themselves. Yes, their government and passed laws to prohibit guns. So all of you who do not like to live by our constitution, why don't you move to another country where the government will "take care" of you? Irrational people. Yeah, just read history, not blogs to get the facts! And to add to my previous statement, check how many citizens have PREVENTED crimes because they had a gun. Nah, that would be too much trouble, and then you would have to be rational.

Kit B (276)
Tuesday December 18, 2012, 3:09 pm

We do believe in the Constitution, unlike you we are not brain-washed into believing the propaganda issued by and for the NRA. I have taught CHL classes and I know how few people with a license to carry a gun know much about guns. Very few crimes are prevented by citizens, and that Greg Patterson is a fact, not some fiction created for mass consumption by the NRA. I think you need to look up the word rational in the dictionary, it's clear that you haven't a clue. Why don't you find a country more to your liking, we are the face of the United States of America, you are the past, no doubt a part of the Goats Of Past - aka GOP.

Jelica R (144)
Tuesday December 18, 2012, 6:40 pm
Facts, source; data for 2009.

-- UK; 0.3 gun homicides per 1,000,000 citizens (= 18); 6.72 private firearms per 100 ppl;
-- Canada; 5 gun homicides per 1,000,000 citizens; (= 173); 23.82 private firearms per 100 ppl;
-- USA; 30 gun homicides per 1,000,000 citizens; (= 9,146); 88.82 private firearms per 100 ppl.

You can see the chart HERE.

Lois Jordan (63)
Wednesday December 19, 2012, 3:44 pm
How did Gohmer ever get elected? This isn't his first completely idiotic remark on various issues. When people say they need "more guns" to combat gun violence, all I can do is shake my head and look at them like they just wandered up from hell.
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