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Obama Offers to Cut Social Security, Medicare and Popular Programs (Again)


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- 545 days ago - commondreams.org
According to new reports, President Obama is once again offering cuts to popular social programs such as Medicare and Social Security as a bargaining chip in the ongoing sequester debate.



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Kit B. (276)
Tuesday March 5, 2013, 6:46 am
U.S. President Barack Obama speaks about the sequester after a meeting with congressional leaders at the White House in Washington March 1, 2013. (Photo: Kevin Lamarque/ Reuters)


According to new reports, President Obama is once again offering cuts to popular social programs such as Medicare and Social Security as a bargaining chip in the ongoing sequester debate.

Such a move by the president is one that many progressives foresaw and warned against, saying that deficit fear-mongering would only pave the way for an inevitable "grand bargain."

According to White House senior economic official Gene Sperling, Obama "reached out" to lawmakers from both parties on Saturday floating a proposition to cut spending in order to appease Republican demands and the 'deficit scolds' who claim, despite evidence to the contrary, that cutting such programs is somehow fiscally responsible.

"I can tell you for a fact the President was working the phone, talking to Republicans and Democrats who he thought were willing to be part of the type of bipartisan compromise [...]" said Sperling during his Sunday appearance on CNN's State of the Union. Without naming any names he added, "he's reaching out to Democrats who understand we need to make serious progress on long term entitlement reform."

This news does not come as much of a surprise to many despite widespread agreement by economists that these "austerity economics" will only further harm our economy and all but "guarantee a prolonged slump."

"Next to come is the long awaited grand bargain of the austerity lobby, in which Republicans agree to close some tax loopholes (which start out grotesquely swollen) and Democrats agree to breach the previously sacrosanct fortresses of Social Security and Medicare," wrote Robert Kuttner last week, before the cuts went into effect.

He continues:

At stake are not just the programs that progressives care deeply about but also the recovery itself and the success of the Obama presidency. The automated reductions of the sequester are only the prologue to a decade long drama, in which the economy faces one budget squeeze after another, all but guaranteeing a prolonged slump.

Of the run-up to the President's weekend conversation, Reuters reports:

Lately, some rank-and-file Democrats and Republicans have been sending signals that they are willing to compromise to end a two-year-old deadlock over tax and entitlement reforms.

Last week, conservative Republican Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina said he was open to raising $600 billion in new tax revenue if Democrats accepted significant changes to Medicare and Medicaid as part of a long-term budget deal.

A few days later, liberal Democratic Senator Ben Cardin of Maryland told Reuters that he had discussed with Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid the possibility of replacing the automatic spending cuts with a mix of entitlement reforms and tax increases. [...]
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By: Lauren McCauley, staff writer | Common Dreams |
 

Dave C. (214)
Tuesday March 5, 2013, 6:48 am
while I do not encourage cutting SS/Medicare (i.e. they are not entitlements except in the fact that citizens are owed a repayment of the $$$ they paid in) this once again shows Mr. Obama is willing to talk and compromise.....and its the Greedy Outrageous Poisoning party that has a "my way or the highway attitude" --- the GOP needs to get in a time machine and return to either the old Soviet Union or some dictatorial country which they obviously prefer.
 

Kit B. (276)
Tuesday March 5, 2013, 6:51 am

Entitlement, - or a creative use of the American language to belittle those who are something less than wealthy or well off, perhaps even (Oh my...) non white or not Christian. Their money taken for 25 to 40 years from their paychecks in a promise to have services and benefits waiting for them in those waning years of life is now something they want to TAKE from society. Shame on all of us.
 

Kit B. (276)
Tuesday March 5, 2013, 6:55 am

Yes, Dave but compromise is not a one way lane, or dance, it does take two. I see the grumpy grinches wrapped in their flag of righteous indignation, about what exactly even they seem unsure. But compromise with THAT man, now that is asking just too much.
 

Maggie Schafer (1)
Tuesday March 5, 2013, 7:53 am
I saw this coming! The true entitlements are what Obama and Congress get! SS, Medicare are PAID benefits! And then the government borrows from them and does not even pay it back!

Even with the pay in for 25 to 40 years, it is NOT enough to live on. Many seniors who have nothing else are having to go on food stamps, etc. May seniors who HAD investments saw them dry up during the Bush Administration's economic destruction! Many seniors will now outlive their funds and SS does not even come close to supporting anyone! You want good pay and benefits for doing nothing? Get elected to Congress!
 

Angelika R. (146)
Tuesday March 5, 2013, 9:16 am
We ALL saw this coming-too late now to shed tears- as I often commented before: once you offer the devil your little finger he'll take the whole hand! Watch this unfold and srew you completely! Repukes will get their cuts on YOUR expense- tax revenue from their side will end up INVISIBLE. (perhaps on paper smartly disguised as such)
 

janice l. (0)
Tuesday March 5, 2013, 9:16 am
instead of cutting benifits from the elderly the people that need it the most, why don't they cut benifits to the young people that have never paid into the system and are on disablity because they are a drug addict or are too fat to work or are just lazy.
 

Angelika R. (146)
Tuesday March 5, 2013, 9:25 am
please !! please everyone, if you haven't yet, DO SIGN my petition posted

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That is what got to go on the chopping block!
 

Jae A. (323)
Tuesday March 5, 2013, 9:35 am
...I really don't understand why the Rightwingers don't love this guy . He's a centrist....center RIght.
 

Betsy Bee (1050)
Tuesday March 5, 2013, 9:52 am
Which all goes to prove that we do not have anything to vote for. Let's cut out the expense of the phoney elections.
 

Gene Jacobson (251)
Tuesday March 5, 2013, 10:27 am
"Such a move by the president is one that many progressives foresaw and warned against, saying that deficit fear-mongering would only pave the way for an inevitable "grand bargain."

Well, cut it out. There is NO reason, and I don't think he even has the authority, to cut programs that are not entitlements but real retirement programs into which we have been required to pay for our entire lives. We have got to get this "entitlement" beast off our backs. There are entitlement programs out there, but I think of those as corporate welfare. Plenty of room to cut that as if billionaires needed help for anything except building vaults like Scrooge McDuck's.
 

Angelika R. (146)
Tuesday March 5, 2013, 10:37 am
Obama is on the best way to mess up his legacy if this sh%$§ keeps being on the table.
 

Kit B. (276)
Tuesday March 5, 2013, 10:41 am

Angie - got the petition signed thank you.

I have said multiple times that smart republicans would align themselves with Obama. Ten or fifteen years ago he would have been a moderate republican. Then again, he is black and that still "bugs" the republicans. LOL!
 

cecily w. (0)
Tuesday March 5, 2013, 12:06 pm
Our legislators let Social Security Old Age Benefits and Medicare become sitting ducks, so it's not surprising that these programs have been targeted. Here is what has needed to be done for some time

Social Security Old Age Benefits:
(1) Gradually phase up the minimum number of quarters required to collect benefits in one's name from 40 (10 years) to 100 (25 years). This requirement has not changed in 80 years--but a lot of other things have changed.

(2) Gradually phase out benefits for fully-abled, essentially unemployed housespouses. There are 40 years between the ages of 22 and 62 (for reduced benefits) and 45 years between the ages of 22 and 67 (for full benefits). Should be plenty of time to stay home with a young child or two and still pay in a fair share to programs that one intends to be benefited by. Long term housespouses (and ex-spouses) should not continue to be a protected group. Singles and double income couples pay in and future workers are required to work until later ages to support fully-abled people who have not contributed.

Medicare:
The situation here is even more obvious. Fully-abled, long term housespouses get a freebie on Medicare-Part A so long as their spouse is eligible to collect. Again, protected group status.
 

Brian M. (145)
Tuesday March 5, 2013, 12:14 pm
More and more, I have come to see that the historical figure that our President most resembles is Neville Chamberlain. An unreasonable willingness to appease, to collaborate, to compromise appears to be a trait that both men have in common. Austerity is just another tool by which the working class of our nation is going to have to carry the full costs of bailing out the follies of the wealthy elites.

We need to cut out corporate tax breaks and subsidies for Big Oil. We need to cut military spending by at least half. We need to cut the amount of corporate payola funneling into our politicians' pockets. We need to cut so many of the things that have made life in the US so extremely pleasant for the haves because the have-nots shouldn't have to carry all the burden.

Once again, the capitalist two-party system gave us a choice: austerity vs austerity. And, when none of us wanted any kind of austerity, they still shoved it down our throats.
 

Kit B. (276)
Tuesday March 5, 2013, 12:18 pm

Most of the "benefits" for young people are education and without educated young people our society will either stagnant or need ever more immigration.. Either way it's expensive. Why don't we charge everyone - no exceptions for both Medicare and Social Security. Let's not allow Congress to steal from Peter to pay Paul, let's do what needs to be done to have a truly civil society.
 

Past Member (0)
Tuesday March 5, 2013, 1:12 pm
Obama is a corporate puppet, just like the last 8 presidents!
 

Jaime A. (32)
Tuesday March 5, 2013, 1:32 pm
Noted.
 

Anna M. (18)
Tuesday March 5, 2013, 1:38 pm
sadly noted
 

Mary Alexander (23)
Tuesday March 5, 2013, 2:04 pm
This is really sad that he would talk from both side of this mouth. They need to keep their hand off of SS and Medicare. Peroid!!!
 

Kit B. (276)
Tuesday March 5, 2013, 2:15 pm

~~~~Hugo Chavez has passed away. Let him rest in peace.
 

donald Baumgartner (4)
Tuesday March 5, 2013, 2:16 pm
KEEP YOUR MITS OFF SOCIAL SECURITY, MEDICAID, MEDICARE!!!!
 

Wayne W. (12)
Tuesday March 5, 2013, 2:57 pm
I don't see a percentage in making real cuts in response to the latest in a long series of fake, self-imposed crises. That's especially true for SS.SS has no place in debt negotiations. We could raise the SS eligibility age to 150 or eliminate SS retirement benefits altogether and it wouldn't reduce the debt by a dime.The debt isn't even in the top 3 most serious problems we face.

The idea that a family budget and the national economy have anything in common is absurd. Even so, how many families pay cash for a house or a car or a kitchen remodel? Is not doing so a failure of personal responsibility? America has gone insane.
 

Diane O. (149)
Tuesday March 5, 2013, 3:25 pm
Meet Barack Hussein Obama, liberals. You never took the time to know who he is. If you had read his book "Dreams From My Father" you might not have voted for him.

Obama was never presidential material. He never had a meaningful job in his entire life. Obama is a classic narcissist and a bully. He is a loner in the White House because he had to hide his incompetence.

Cutting social security and medicare is not the answer. Reform is the answer. $60 billion a year in fraud and abuse is paid annually by the taxpayers. Clean it up. Fix that fraud and abuse and reform the system to better take care of those who paid into it, need a cost of living raise and better benefits.

It's all right there in front of Obama. It's Obama's "vision for America" that is wrong. And while I'm at it there needs to be reform which states that retiring Americans do not have to go on medicare. The majority of Americans can well afford private healthcare insurance. Why force those who don't have to go on it do just that? Fine....take it out of the paychecks to fund medicare and that will help others. Think about this.....if millions and millions of Americans opt NOT to go on medicare because they want to keep their private healthcare provider....then let them do it.

Reform is the answer....in the ways that matter to Americans. As a republican, I understand that we have Americans who need these benefits and they should have them. Obama is jus too out of touch and incompetent to get anything worthwhile done. Sorry, liberals, but Obama is a colossal failure on every level IMO.
 

Joanne Dixon (38)
Tuesday March 5, 2013, 3:26 pm
I wonder if what he really wants is to have all of us (and anyone else who will) screaming hysterically, signing every petition within reach, emailing and telephoning Congresspersons, etc etc, to provide a show of support for Social Security and Medicare. If so, I'm sure we will be happy to oblige; I know I will. I may be wrong; he is certainly far from perfect. He is better than Romney, though.
 

Diane O. (149)
Tuesday March 5, 2013, 3:46 pm
None of us know how Romney would've been as president. To say that Obama is better than Romney is a stretch.

What we can say, IMO, is that Obama is worse than Jimmy Carter....a liberal president, after one term, who handed President Ronald Reagan 22% mortgage interest rates, inflation, recession and a failed foreign affairs situation. President Reagan, unlike the Whiner in Chief Obama, didn't blame Carter. He simply rolled up his sleeves and turned immediately to our small businesses. Reagan immeidately jump started our economy.

Obama didn't do that. He was too dumb to know what he needed to do. So what did he do? He turned immediately to his "legacy" healthcare bill....think about that. Obama for the American people? I don't think so. Obama is for Obama's legacy.
 

Diane O. (149)
Tuesday March 5, 2013, 3:48 pm
dreaded typos: "immediately jump started our economy." And he turned America around on a dime.
 

Diane O. (149)
Tuesday March 5, 2013, 4:00 pm
Kit, the majority of our young have a college education. The majority of Americans have good jobs, money in the bank, retirement accounts and many do not have a mortgage and those that do are focused on paying it off. When you talk about "uneducated young Americans" you are referring to a small percentage of Americans.

Please understand that republicans aren't racists. If you want to know what a racist looks like read Obama's book "Dreams From My Father." You'll read, in Obama's own words, how racist he was against white Americans and how he distanced himself from his own white mother. Republicans didn't vote for Obama not because he was black but because they believed him to be a nobody who never had a meaningful job in his entire life AND we read his book something it appears that many liberals didn't do. Read the book. See the real Obama.

I believe that GWB created the perfect storm for someone like Barack Hussein Obama to be elected POTUS. He was black. He was a liberal. He had nothing in his background to prevent him from running. As a junior senator, Obama voted "present" over 100 times. Who else has ever done that? Obama didn't want to leave a trail of what it was he did vote for or didn't vote for because it would've hurt his opportunity to be elected....he left no voting record as a senator. Name one other senator who did that. You can't.

Republicans didn't vote for Obama because he was wrong for our country. Now we are watching that in "slow motion." So, please don't even begin to go there that the republicans don't like Obama because he is black. We don't support him because he is grossly incompetent. History will do a bad number on Obama.
 

Diane O. (149)
Tuesday March 5, 2013, 4:18 pm
Young people in America today have to make a hard choice. They can take advantage of the many grants to get an education, take out student loans like many have done and paid them back, or they can sit in a minimum wage job and opt not to do the work to become personally responsible Americans so that they can learn a trade, get a degree, to support themselves and their own families. Obama is a good example. He took advantage of what was offered. He wasn't born into a wealthy family. He charted his path, took out student loans and applied for grants because.....because.....he wanted a better life for himself. And, as a black American, he wasn't the only one to do this. It always comes down to personal choices made by young Americans....what to do....how to do it....and where they see themselves 10 years after graduation. The majority of Americans take the high road, do the work, graduate and chart their life paths.

Not everyone in America will have the home with the white picket fence, two cars in the driveway and a good job. The question is and will always remain..."why wouldn't they move forward with all of the opportunities sitting in front of them to make it so? It's a personal choice. The liberals love the bleeding heart position to scoop these people up who made bad decisions and ask the rich to make it better for them. Meanwhile, the majority of Americans didn't ask for the rich to share their wealth. They wanted to be self sustaining on their own.

I get tired of hearing about the slackards in our society. Everyone in America has the opportunity to be a self supporting American never to become a burden on our society. Some take advantage of what is before them and some don't. We have foreign students who study in our country year after year taking advantage of the excellent education they will receive here. Is it too much to ask, after millions perhaps billions of taxpayer dollars which fund education benefits for the poor to actually take advantage of this opportunity? Obama did it. He is a perfect role model as a foreign student who came back into our country after spending years as a citizen of Indonesia to attend American colleges/universities and became the POTUS.

Dr. Ben Carlson is another excellent example of what an American has at his/her fingertips. It's a personal choice and many have soared in our country by making the right decisions for their futures.

Teach a man to fish....
 

Diane O. (149)
Tuesday March 5, 2013, 4:22 pm
The liberals need to understand that the old worn and tattered "race card" hasn't worked in decades. We have an even playing field in America and it has taken us decades to make it so. We should be proud of that. No excuses today for anyone who is not disabled and cannot get an education to stand before their communities without a way to support themselves and their families. Personal choices define who we are.
 

Birgit W. (144)
Tuesday March 5, 2013, 4:22 pm
Thanks
 

Dandelion G. (386)
Tuesday March 5, 2013, 5:53 pm
For all those that keep voting in the two Parties and think you are doing better all you did was either vote for auterity or austerity light.

A report released by the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) reveals that the Social Security trust fund is actually in better shape than previously thought. CBO now projects the trust fund won’t run out until 2038, a slight improvement over previous estimates and a reassuring reminder of the fund’s solvency for the next several decades.

Under the law, Social Security cannot possibly contribute to the on-budget deficit. It can only spend money that has been collected from the designated payroll tax or from the investment of past surpluses.

If benefit payments exceed current revenue and the money available in the trust fund, as the Congressional Budget Office projects will happen in 2038, then Social Security would not be able to pay full scheduled benefits. It could not force the government to increase its deficit.

Social Security can be corrected so that there will not be a crisis in 2038 but it is not by cutting the throats of the Elders and Disabled today or tomorrow. Why does Obama, a so called Liberal President, keep throwing the Corner Stone of the New Deal under the bus? Another reason I wouldn't vote for the man; and didn't.

I think more people need to look into 3rd Parties, the one's we have stink. We are mired in quicksand and yet everyone defends their given party while both of those Parties got us into these messes. If one side didn't think of something the other side did to cut our throats.

The only reason Obama has last so long is the Liberals think he was the lesser of the "two evils" and that he is the first President of color so the minorities are keeping more quiet than usual.

I'd say that was a good move on the Oligarchy pushing these rigged elections, as they "own" both sold out Parties, to place Obama up there when the crash happened. Instead of people keeping the ball rolling in protests with their frustration of a corrupted Government, a coup by the Plutocrats, the people cheered the fact that a first Black man was elected.

The American people are played like a fiddle and most go dancing to the tune.
 

Yvonne White (231)
Tuesday March 5, 2013, 6:34 pm
The Democratic Party should hire Dennis Kucinich to give the President & certain members of CONgre$$ a Refresher Course on Democratic Values & the Holy Grail of Social Security & Medicare/Medicaid...only a Corporate Stooge would f*$k up a certain Democratic rise to filibuster-proof power by Caving & co-conspiring with RepubliCONs to ruin Social Security, Medicare/Medicaid... :(
 

Robert K. (31)
Tuesday March 5, 2013, 6:48 pm
Congratulations on posting your um[pteenth stupid post Diane.

In the wise words of the Firesign Theater, "Everything you know is wrong!"
 

Kit B. (276)
Tuesday March 5, 2013, 6:51 pm

It doesn't matter what kind of president Romney MIGHT have been, he lost, end of story. The president is Obama, Americans make their decisions for various reasons, none of which have to do with getting "freebies" from government programs. About the only "even" playing field in this country is a football field, time to wake up and smell the coffee, the demographics have changed and will continue to change. As long as the republicans continue to ignore and denigrate all who are not white and Christian, the will lose.
 

Kit B. (276)
Tuesday March 5, 2013, 6:52 pm


***they will lose*** typo - must be more tired then I thought.
 

Julie W. (21)
Tuesday March 5, 2013, 7:15 pm
Kit: ...'creative use of the American language '. Huh? Since when? I thought it was the English language.
 

Kit B. (276)
Tuesday March 5, 2013, 7:30 pm

I don't know about you but, I'm an American and I speak the Texan dialect of the American language. Perhaps a course in college might help you? Or do you just want a fight? If so...I'm not playing.
 

Robert Tomlinson (65)
Tuesday March 5, 2013, 7:58 pm
Leaders will lead only if we put a lot of pressure on them. So, let's push them in the right direction by calling and writing.
 

Deborah W. (6)
Tuesday March 5, 2013, 8:04 pm
Anybody familiar with THE AMATEUR by Edward Klein? The New Party? DSA? Piece by piece whatever hasn't been "sealed", deleted or downplayed if unfavorable to Soros and the other invested bundlers of this inept cheerleader may offer some new thoughts to closed minds ... or not. Just sayin'
 

Julie W. (21)
Tuesday March 5, 2013, 8:07 pm
Kit, I never fight on this, or any other forum. But I do sometimes disagree! A course in college? Been there, done that.

'American English is a set of dialects of the English language used mostly in the United States. Approximately two-thirds of the world's native speakers of English live in the United States.[2]

English is the most common language in the United States. '(Wikipedis)
 

Colleen L. (2)
Tuesday March 5, 2013, 9:09 pm
All I have to add to this is that I pray that they find other sources to cut, like defense funding, etc. They state that they are bringing people home from the wars, but stiill spend excessive amount on fighter planes, dromes, tanks, etc. As the the Medicare/Social Security, people have been paying into it all of their lives and deserve it to the fullest. Thanks Kit
 

Basia P. (0)
Tuesday March 5, 2013, 10:00 pm
I am a Democrat but for the 1st time ever I feel ashamed to be. It sickens me that SS and Medicare and Medicaid are being held hostage. The Federal govenment must stand away from these programs. Getting old is tough enough but to threaten to cut programs that people have put into over their working years is horrendous. Besides the government has dipped its hand into the SS too many times. To be honest I am also sick and tired of the finger pointing and blame game. Congress and the President all need a 20% cut in pay and have to join the healthcare plans we all use and also put into SS and have to rely on it for retirement. Washington needs to come down to Earth.
 

Marie W. (65)
Tuesday March 5, 2013, 10:50 pm
Going the austerity route is a drive off a cliff1
 

John Gregoire (255)
Wednesday March 6, 2013, 5:18 am
Concur with Dandelion! Blind voting for either one of the two major parties is what allowed the Social security turst fund to be continuously raped by admins and Congresses of both parties. Obama wouldn't know ;eadership outside the socialist school where the leaders thrive while the rabble is socialized.

Keep it up Mr. O. Each day we get closer to the "high crimes" threshold.
 

Robert B. (57)
Wednesday March 6, 2013, 6:10 am
It's time to really compromise and cut the pay of congress until they agree to do their damn job. Especially the incompetent Republicans.
 

Robert B. (57)
Wednesday March 6, 2013, 6:14 am
Dianne O is SO OUT OF TOUCH WITH REALITY. 1% own nearly HALF of the wealth in this country. We've been going downhill since Reagan and his Wall Street handlers stole our Democracy.
 

John S. (301)
Wednesday March 6, 2013, 6:45 am
And the "sacrosanct fortresses of Social Security and Medicare" don't also "start out grotesquely swollen"?
 

Arielle S. (317)
Wednesday March 6, 2013, 6:50 am
I doubt Obama has any intention of cutting SS or Medicare - he had to make the offer so the GOP would look bad -- which they do. Obama is not a dictator or emperor or king - he has to work within the confines of our governmental laws - darn it. Blaming him is like cursing the weatherman because the sun doesn't shine.
The one to keep an eye on is that creepy Paul Ryan who is now making noise about cutting medicare for those over 50.....
 

Dandelion G. (386)
Wednesday March 6, 2013, 7:20 am
Cuts to Social Security should not ever come out of the mouths of ANYONE let alone a Democrat, one of the best programs this Country has done for it's citizens, be they in the House, Congress, or the White House. There are in essence some simple solutions that can shore up this program and even be a bit more generous than it is for even with the Social Security many struggle on less than $1,000 a month.

The Elders and the Disabled are already compromised due to health and to hear that the only thing that stands between them and a roof over their head and food in their mouths is to be cut is a horrendous thought to place on these people. IT IS CRUEL! That the Leader of this Country, be it a political ploy or otherwise would even stoop to such low standards is horrible.

If one doesn't understand what it is to be frail and in their later years of life, to not have the strength or the fortitude to be able to carry on if more money is taken from them while prices rise and not being able to do anything about it as the legs don't walk so far, the mind isn't so sharp, and the well worn hands are now that, worn out, the talk out of Washington show total DISRESPECT to those Elders upon whose backs this Country was built, upon whose hands raised the more youthful of today.

Is the problem with this Country, fed this concept that only "new and shiney" is worth anything, that only the youth have a right to live a life, that the old somehow needs to go away and be shunned, mistreated, be used as a tool in their political football game of politics. No, it isn't right, the Elders deserve more respect than that, should be given a protection from such things.

Is DISGRACEFUL what this Country has stooped to and what the people in this Society has accepted as ok to do.
 

Kit B. (276)
Wednesday March 6, 2013, 8:23 am

Actually it is more like 5% of the country own 97% if all wealth created. That is a deficit that should be of real concern. The historical ramifications should be obvious to any one, the United States is not exempt from either verbal or physical revolution.

Though we are a happy to pretend the letter after the name of any candidate, most often a "d" or an "r" we all have realized that they all owe allegiance to powers other than the American people. I have seen and heard Obama called a "puppet" and so are all politicians. We gave up 30 years ago and surrendered our sense of personal power, now we live unhappily with the consequence. Don't bother pretending one party is standing for truth, justice and the American Way, because neither does. They both stand for and are owned by International corporatists, that owe nothing to this or any individual nation.

Worship the all mighty dollar, and those who own the biggest bunch of dollars, your passion for their money or rights is totally irrelevant to them, what they want they damn well buy. Job Creators? Only in the NEW lexicon of the American/English language. A few specialty jobs are created to build new Yachts, and super luxury autos, jets and other one time purchases, a very few jobs. These people have NO sense of stewardship, no sense of loyalty and most certainly are not worthy nor deserving or our loyalty or support. Tax them, as we do any other citizen, And for goodness sake stop whining about the fairness of all Citizens paying their fair share, it's pathetic.
 

Suheyla C. (229)
Wednesday March 6, 2013, 9:49 am
noted
 

Dandelion G. (386)
Wednesday March 6, 2013, 10:27 am
In his Thoughts on Government (1776), Adams wrote that the purpose of government was the "greatest quantity of human happiness." Adams derived that notion from Cicero, the ancient Roman philosopher who said, "The people's good is the highest law."

Not a singular Corporations best Profits, not the right of the mightiest or the wealthiest only.

“When one may pay out over two million dollars to presidential and Congressional campaigns, the US. government is virtually up for sale.” John W. Gardner - American Writer and former Secretary of Health, Education and Welfare

"Give me the right to issue and control a nation’s money and I care not who governs the country.” Meyer Amschal Rothschild, International banker

"If a free society cannot help the many who are poor, it cannot save the few who are rich." John F. Kennedy

There is always a tipping point by the masses when squeezed too hard, when they feel there is nothing left to loose. Those sitting in their gated mansions and ivory towers need to realize that their numbers are small in size, how much defense will their portfolios give to them? It isn't a world I want to see, is this what they want? Like the alcoholic, how much is enough for them? How many more homes, boats, gold toilet seats, rings and necklaces do they need? When is it enough?

Please watch the short video.......a real eye opener and nicely done.
OUR REALITY

So where is our Leadership? Who controls what? Got the picture. Stop pointing the finger at each other and know where the ROOT of the problem is. I'll tell you where it's NOT.....it isn't the Elders on their meager Social Security.

 

Basia P. (0)
Wednesday March 6, 2013, 10:52 am
There is excellent information here and much insight and food for thought, but please do not debase the thread with derogatory name calling. (DW)

To lighten things this link was sent to me and it is humourous but also telling.
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=622708521089003&set=a.478245465535310.132602.468003049892885&type=1&ref=nf
 

Dandelion G. (386)
Wednesday March 6, 2013, 1:28 pm
Congressmen Alan Grayson and Mark Takano are fighting back and asking their colleagues to join them on a letter that states:

We will vote against any and every cut to Medicare, Medicaid, or Social Security benefits -- including raising the retirement age or cutting the cost of living adjustments that our constituents earned and need.

Can you add your name as a citizen supporter of this letter, so other congressional offices see the broad public support?
PETITION No Cuts to Social Security Medicare Medicaid the latter two already saves money by keeping costs down the first doesn't add to the debt

Don't let them fool you, don't let them screw you. We should of long ago been in a Universal Health situation.
 

Kit B. (276)
Wednesday March 6, 2013, 1:40 pm

Thanks Sheryl - petition signed and tweeted.
 

Charlene M. (70)
Wednesday March 6, 2013, 4:56 pm

In a perfect world, we would all be educated in Politics, after all if you work you pay taxes; one would think you would care enough to know. Whether Democrat or Republican if any political is not doing his/her job common sense vote them out! Obviously, this is not a perfect world and most people do not have common sense.

http://www.naturalnews.com/029450_Harry_Reid_Big_Pharma.html




 

Lois Jordan (55)
Wednesday March 6, 2013, 5:05 pm
I saw the article's title and felt that old "we've been had" feeling again. Social Security and Medicare shouldn't even be part of this discussion....unless they want to raise the cap on Soc.Sec. I think it's around $115,000 now, but I think there should be NO cap. Villianaires should be paying the same percentage as someone making $50,000. Waste, fraud and abuse of these programs could be handled with more oversight and accountability.
Signed the petition Dandelion listed. Progressives also had their own bill, which hasn't gotten any media time, so I don't know if it was even introduced, but I asked my member of congress to sign on as a co-sponsor. I guess these things sometimes take time.
 

Robert K. (31)
Wednesday March 6, 2013, 7:10 pm
Debbie W, been a racist long? What a twit you are.
 

l L. (1)
Wednesday March 6, 2013, 7:19 pm
They are always after the big 3 because that is where the money is.. Not was...IS..
The idea is that by any means necessary.. get into it raid it and divide the spoils. Do they care about Americans and America? No.. Bottom line.

Repubs pretend they hate Obama and Obama can't do enough to be accepted by them.. To our hurt..
Their collective love for all things Bush and Bush period shows whose side they all are on.
Now; Romney and the clown show and violence crew are all things bush and neo-conish. This is America's problem.
We don't have any choices in government on our side and on our side to stop anything.
The fact that there are regular people in America , who just don't get it and gloat over that hope and changey thing. They will be whining too, very soon. Nothing is sacred anymore.

Drones anyone? There is serious stuff going on here. We need to all wake up. It is not fun and games anymore and see who the next best candidate is that we can rally around to protect our interest. Fascism ..is.. here.. Ask corporate media America. It is now that it is showing itself and none of us are safe. Not even the ones ushering it in. Just watch.. which ones of us go missing. Better get something in place to report your loved ones missing. Take a head count. even for your self.
 

Patty K. (1)
Saturday March 9, 2013, 3:19 pm
Since Obama does not do a good job, we should first start with cutting all of his unnecessary vacations and stop giving money to other countries; not cutting entitlements that we have paid into for years and been promised by the government.
 
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