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Brotherhood Plans Cairo March After Crackdown


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Kit
- 432 days ago - aljazeera.com
Islamist group calls for rally day after security forces mounted bloody clampdown on its members that killed hundreds.



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Kit B. (276)
Thursday August 15, 2013, 5:43 am
Photo Credit: Al Jazeera and agencies

*** Picture slide show, video at VISIT SITE

Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood has said it planned to march in the capital, Cairo, reiterating it remained committed to a peaceful struggle, a day after hundreds of its supporters were killed in a bloody security crackdown in the capital.

"Marches are planned this afternoon from Al-Iman mosque to protest the deaths," the Islamist group said in a statement on Thursday even as the country remained in a state of emergency.

World leaders condemned the attack on protesters camped out in the Egyptian capital calling for reinstatement of Mohamed Morsi, country’s first freely elected president, who was deposed by the army on July 3.

"We will always be non-violent and peaceful. We remain strong, defiant and resolved," Brotherhood spokesman Gehad El-Haddad wrote on his Twitter feed.

"We will push (forward) until we bring down this military coup," he added.

Nationwide protests, including Alexandria and numerous towns and cities, erupted after the Cairo crackdown that left at least 525 people dead.

An Egyptian Health Ministry spokesman, Khaled el-Khateeb, told The Associated Press on Thursday that the number of injured in the previous day's violence had risen to 3,572.

Al Jazeera's Jane Ferguson reporting from al-Imam Mosque in Cairo's Nasr City, said: "There are absolutely horrific scenes here just as funerals begins. The bodies are all across the floor surrounded by bloody shrouds. Lots of relatives crying, lots of anger."

"We have seen coffins being brought steady stream in here now there are already 100 bodies behind me."

"Funerals of those are about to start in many parts of the country," Al Jazeera's Mike Hanna, reporting from Cairo, said.

The military-installed government defended the clamp down, saying the authorities had no choice but to act.

Al Jazeera's Hanna also said that the "the cabinet was meeting to discuss the present situation. A statement was expected later in the day.

The curfew clamped overnight was relaxed in the morning and traffic started flowing through the areas where clashes occurred on Wednesday.

At the site of one Cairo sit-in, garbage collectors cleared still-smouldering piles of burnt tents on Thursday. Soldiers dismantled the stage at the heart of the protest camp. A burnt out armoured vehicle stood abandoned in the street.

Call for UN debate

In Ankara, Turkish Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan called on Thursday for the UN Security Council to convene quickly and act after what he described as a massacre in Egypt.

"Those who remain silent in the face of this massacre are as guilty as those who carried it out. The UN Security Council must convene quickly," he told a news conference.

The Muslim Brotherhood has said the true death toll was far higher, with a spokesman saying 2,000 people had been killed in the "massacre".

It was impossible to verify the figures independently given the extent of the violence.

The military-installed government has declared a month-long state of emergency and imposed the dusk-to-dawn curfew on Cairo and 10 other provinces, restoring to the army powers of arrest and indefinite detention it held for decades until the fall of autocrat Hosni Mubarak in a 2011 popular uprising.

Vice President Mohamed ElBaradei, a Nobel Peace Prize winner, resigned in dismay at the use force instead of a negotiated end to the six-week standoff.

Other liberals and technocrats in the interim government did not follow suit. Interim Prime Minister Hazem el-Beblawi spoke in a televised address of a "difficult day for Egypt" but said the government had no choice but to order the crackdown to prevent anarchy spreading.

Al Jazeera's Hanna said: "The opinion in Egypt within itself is sharply divided, with the broad opposition umbrella body National Salvation Front welcoming the action, saying that it was necessary to maintain democracy."
*****

Al Jazeera - News Source
 

Abdessalam Diab (154)
Thursday August 15, 2013, 6:06 am
First of all we are all too sad and absolutely sorry for the victims of MBH on both sides . The police and civilians who died yesterday and who might meet the same destiny to day and days to come due to MBH terrorist attacks. That said we have to understand that MBH were not only sitting in, They used to storm the streets daily blocking the traffic, attacking government buildings, attacking innocent people, kidnapping and torturing and even killing their political opponents not only in Cairo and Giza but in different cities and villages around the country not to mention attacking Coptic churches, setting fire in churches and annexed Coptic schools and medical clinics. In the sit-in sites they abused women and children using them as human shields. Twenty four hours before the dispersal of the sit-in They stormed many Egyptian Ministries such as Ministry of Higher Education, Ministry of Justice, Ministry of Wakfs ( in charge of mosques and Islamic call ), Ministry of agriculture and many other governments. It was obvious that they started a new escalation to spread more chaos. This behavior from MBH and supporters of deposed president Morsy constituted an act of terror and had to be stopped as it continued for more than six weeks and started to threaten Egypt's national security putting in mind the terrorist attacks Egypt in facing in Sinai by Qaeda and other terrorists who call themselves Jihadists. What would any State in the world do to face this threat specially after they had refused all proposal to come to a peaceful solution of the problem insisting that Morsi be reinstated ( something they know pretty well is IMPOSSIBLE because it contradicts the will of more than 22 million Egyptian voters? They refused all international, Arab and local mediators proposals to accept the Status Que and continue with the third of July road map towards a real democracy that includes all Egyptian political currents including MBH?
I think any State would put an end to this dangerous situation
 

Abdessalam Diab (154)
Thursday August 15, 2013, 6:24 am
Right now I am watching Tv live and the Giza govern office is being burned by MBH who set fire at it .I live 300 meters from this building. Is this the peaceful struggle they are talking about ?
This is just one example of their terrorist crimes
Look at what their snipers were doing yesterday to the police

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=CFZ5kkkAlm4
 

Abdessalam Diab (154)
Thursday August 15, 2013, 6:49 am
1 - This morning figures of victims ,as per ministry of health,are : 525 dead this number includes 47 policemen who were killed yesterday and who might have increased during last night.
2 -18 churches burned or damaged as well as 25 homes and shops owned by Egyptian Christians.
3 - injuries so far 3717
 

Abdessalam Diab (154)
Thursday August 15, 2013, 7:00 am
When Obama starts his press conference in few hours ,I think he will continue talking about " a military cop" and stand beside the reinstatement of deposed Morsi
 

Kit B. (276)
Thursday August 15, 2013, 7:12 am

Morsi represents a tough non-democratic government but one that smiles kindly on the US, so we will be supportive. The MBH must be pleased with the result of the clashes, they have ordered even more protests to bring Morsi back to his position. Should that happen I do believe Egypt might return to the days of Mubarak.

Thank You for the updates Abdessalam.
 

Abdessalam Diab (154)
Thursday August 15, 2013, 7:24 am
Watch this video. Listen to the voice...... The police calling on pro Morsi protesters to evacuate the place and leave peacefully and safely. Instead they set fire in their tents and burn all what they have in it then accuse the police forces of burning their tents.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pv8YURYb72I&feature=share
 

Alan Lambert (94)
Thursday August 15, 2013, 7:37 am
This whole situation is a dog's breakfast. A mess on steroids. I don't support the aims of the Muslim Brotherhood and the Army has always been the guarantor of the people's rights. That said, Morsi was elected, but I'm not sure he was gonna be willing to turn power over to the next elected government.
 

Abdessalam Diab (154)
Thursday August 15, 2013, 7:41 am
Morsi will never be back. A spy and a Hamas agent will never rule Egypt. He will soon be before a court. He will not even be allowed to run for presidency. Over our dead bodies.
 

Kit B. (276)
Thursday August 15, 2013, 7:52 am

I was pleased the president did acknowledge that Morsi was not moving Egypt toward a democratic government and was not meeting the needs or desires of the people of Egypt. Yes, he was elected, but he did not reflect what the people wanted and now he is a part of the history of Egypt.
 

Abdessalam Diab (154)
Thursday August 15, 2013, 8:00 am
Although he was late ,he said it well. Fair enough
 

Abdessalam Diab (154)
Thursday August 15, 2013, 9:04 am
Christian churches and properties attacked around the country

Joel Gulhane / August 15, 2013

Dozens of churches attacked down across the country following sit-in dispersal

Further reports of Christian churches and properties around the country being attacked have emerged following the dispersal of the sit-ins near Rabaa Al-Adaweya Mosque and in Al-Nahda Square.

The Ministry of Foreign Affairs released a list of 35 incidents of attacks on Coptic Christians around the country that that was compiled on Wednesday by El-Watani weekly. It contains a list of churches, businesses and private homes of Coptic Christians. These were either set ablaze, attacked or looted

Read more
http://www.dailynewsegypt.com/2013/08/15/christian-churches-and-properties-attacked-around-the-country/
 

Birgit W. (147)
Thursday August 15, 2013, 12:49 pm
Thank you Kit for the article, and thank you very much Abdessalam Diab for taking the time to update us what exactly is happening in your country as I don't trust our medias anymore.
 

Abdessalam Diab (154)
Thursday August 15, 2013, 1:19 pm
Attacks on police facilities, churches continue as pro-Morsy sit-ins dispersed by force

Three unidentified people fired at a Central Security Forces (CSF) camp using automatic rifles in Port Said early Thursday. Two soldiers were injured and transferred to a hospital.

Attacks on police facilities continued for a second day after the security forces broke up by force the sit-ins of toppled President Mohamed Morsy supporters in Cairo and Giza Wednesday. According to the Health Ministry, 421 protesters died during the breaking up of both sit-ins.

The streets of Port Said were deserted at night although the curfew was not imposed there as it was in other governorates. The police and armed forces set up checkpoints and intensified their presence in Port Said's streets to inspect cars.

According to DPA, a security source said some pro-Morsy protesters attacked Thursday morning Sahel Selim police station in Assuit using mortar shells.

The incident resulted in the demolition of the station's wall and some policemen were injured, the source said.

There were confrontations between security forces and attackers after the police identified their opponents' location, according to the same source.

The Interior Ministry announced Wednesday that 43 policemen were killed in clashes during the breaking up of the pro-Morsy sit-ins.

Hundreds of pro-Islamist protesters set on fire St. Youhanna Diocese in Abanoub, the source told DPA. It added that security forces were unable to control the fire.
http://www.egyptindependent.com/news/attacks-police-facilities-churches-continue-pro-morsy-sit-ins-dispersed-force
 

Kit B. (276)
Thursday August 15, 2013, 1:28 pm

I was checking the cable media, so far they have nothing equal to the news you have offered us Abdessalam.
 

GGmaSheila D. (172)
Thursday August 15, 2013, 1:30 pm
Read and noted with sadness that a peaceful solution seems unlikely...One can only hope though.
Thank you kit for sharing this article. Thank you Abdessalam for keeping us informed about what goes on there - please stay safe.
 

Mitchell D. (129)
Thursday August 15, 2013, 1:56 pm
What apparently was, indeed, a massacre, in Egypt, is very sad.
Still, Morsey's power grab was very sad, and, I'm going to venture, Theocratically motivated.
Abdessalam, I cry for you.
 

Kit B. (276)
Thursday August 15, 2013, 3:08 pm

Critically, the brotherhood is intentionally asking people to protest. It seems they have agents that are within these crowds firing weapons at the police. The expected reaction is that the police or army will fire back. The sympathy must be with those who lose family members and not with the Muslim Brotherhood or Morsy.
 

JL A. (275)
Thursday August 15, 2013, 3:43 pm
My heart is filled with grief whenever I encounter so much death and violence where no one ever seems to really win anything that they say they want. Clearly an epic story where there is far more than meets the eye or than media can accurately report.
 

S J. (119)
Thursday August 15, 2013, 4:50 pm
My heart goes with those affected by violence and their family. I can't accept any government, nor group nor government offices to kill people especially its own people. I have direct experience with the same situation for few times in my life, I still have the sound of guns in my ears every single day. I was a student at that time, no weapon, not a terrorist. I have a bad luck that I am still alive!

Noted, thanks Kit.
 

marie c. (168)
Thursday August 15, 2013, 5:17 pm
Thank you Abdessalam for keeping us informed
As always thank you Kit for bringing to our attention
I feel dreadful tonight sitting in my comfortable home knowing what these poor people are going through
JLA thank you for your comments I totally agree
 

Roger Garin-michaud (68)
Thursday August 15, 2013, 5:42 pm
noted, thanks
 

Past Member (0)
Friday August 16, 2013, 2:57 am
Sadly noted, appreciate the comments being made.
 

bob m. (32)
Friday August 16, 2013, 7:42 am


Gee willikers Mr. Smith!... the Brotherhood is doing what?
Of course the media is not putting out what A.D. is saying.....they are largely apopgists to most of jihadi movement...everywhere....agents of tyranny.
The fact that people (Christians?) were being crudely slaughtered and even crucified outside the Pres. buildings almost immediately after election was hardly mentioned at all ... it was left to "PHOBIC" sites to expose...
Be safe Abdessalam Diab.!
 

Helen Porter (40)
Friday August 16, 2013, 11:13 pm
Bloody is the karma.
Loud the lamentation.
Is peace to be thus
purchased?
 

Abdessalam Diab (154)
Saturday August 17, 2013, 5:26 am
MBH Terrorists are spreading terror over Egypt > Obama,Eu and UN security council is giving them a cover. This is the situation now.
 

Abdessalam Diab (154)
Saturday August 17, 2013, 5:30 am
Yesterday Avaz.org sent me a petition to sign. The petition calls on the Egyptian Government to stop its attacks on peaceful protesters and the Muslim Brother Hood members to stop attacking Churches. It also calls to what it calls "a non military government " to negotiate a peaceful resolution for the existing problem. This was my response to Avaz.org yesterday :

Abdessalam Diab Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 3:59 PM
To: "Mais A. - Avaaz.org"
Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Delete | Show original
I have been an active supporter to Avaz for more than 3 years. Thus
signed hundreds of Avaz.org petitions. I think that this petition is
unbalanced. It blames the government for dispersing a sit-in that
continued for more than six weeks.Women and children had been abused
in that sit-in .They had been used as human shields for some
terrorists who used to march daily on the streets daily ..day and
night blocking the traffic in the already heavy traffic streets of
Cairo metropolitan area,horrifying innocent people ,kidnapping their
political opponents,torturing and killing many of them. Many corps of
these opponents were discovered near their sit-in at Nahda square and
behind the terrorists stage in Rabea sit-in as well. Pro Morsi
protesters turned their sit-in places to a war field and stationed
snipers on the roofs of several buildings. They also infiltrated the
privacy of people living in the neighboring residential
building,harassed them and turned their lives to a hell. Pro Morsi
terrorists were not sitting in peacefully with all the dirt,middle
ages type of life and noise they caused to the people living
peacefully there. Those people reported several time to the police and
general prosecutor that they can't live their normal life in their
houses.They refused all advises given by the government to end their
sit-in and leave peacefully. The government guaranteed safe passage
for them till the last minute before the dispersal and even during the
dispersal but many of them refused while the government kept its
promise for those who preferred to chose leaving peacefully with their
children .
I am very sorry that you call those terrorist political protesters.
They are not. They had planned to spread chaos all over the country
storming and setting fire not only in churches but also public and
private building ,houses and shops and police stations killing
hundreds of innocent people . They are trying to punish 22 million
Egyptians who politely and peacefully asked the deposed president to
call for early presidential elections after he had failed to meet
Egyptians demands but he denied their call .
I certainly agree that a national recons elation must be reached but
we all know that both International and local mediators failed because
of the stubbornness of those terrorist's leadership who insist to
reinstate Morsi, something that the MAJORITY of Egyptians do not and
will never agree to.
I am sorry. This is one of the few times I deny signing one of your petitions.
Abdessalam Diab
 

bob m. (32)
Saturday August 17, 2013, 7:28 am


The Blood of only One has purchased true ..everlasting peace...........upon His shoulders retribution fell.....The Lamb of God.....be well Abdessalam D.
 

Abdessalam Diab (154)
Saturday August 17, 2013, 11:25 am
“Egyptians today know who has let them down and who stands by them as well as who provides financial and moral cover to those who exercise violence,”
 

Abdessalam Diab (154)
Saturday August 17, 2013, 11:28 am
Determined to defeat terrorism

Mostafa Hegazy, political adviser to interim President Adly Mansour, said the massive protests staged on 30 June were an expression of the Egyptian people's desire to rid the country of "religious fascism."

The presidential staffer issued a strongly-worded statement addressing developments over the past few days in Egypt which have seen hundreds killed and the polarized divide between government and Muslim Brotherhood ever larger.

The state is determined to defeat terrorism with the help of security forces and the law, all while upholding human rights, he said.

At an international press conference held on Saturday, Hegazy added that the Egyptian state supports freedom of expression and the right to stage sit-ins provided they are peaceful, adding that the dispersed sit-ins in Rabaa al-Adaweya and al-Nahda were in fact not peaceful.

Read more about the press conference here

http://www.egyptindependent.com/news/presidency-determined-defeat-terrorism
 

Kit B. (276)
Saturday August 17, 2013, 11:36 am

We could see they were not peaceful protests but I think the problem is most are assuming and the news is not adding anything to help, that these protests represent not the few but the many Egyptians. Rather than following the correct information, even from their own reporters, too many news reports are misleading people in the US and Canada to believe that the military is on a wild shooting spree, while brave Egyptians are begging for the return of Morsi.
 

Kit B. (276)
Saturday August 17, 2013, 11:38 am

Thank you Abdessalam, your updates do help keep us informed.
 

Abdessalam Diab (154)
Saturday August 17, 2013, 1:03 pm
@ Kit " Too many news reports are misleading people in the US and Canada to believe that the military is on a wild shooting spree, while brave Egyptians are begging for the return of Morsi." That may be right Kit. The evidence ?
1 - Al-Qaeda flags black were flied yesterday during the clashes between Morsi supporters and security forces in Ramses square ( One of the main squares in Cairo when the attacked a police station and set fire in a high building where a government blood bank exists . Obama still calls them peaceful protests !!!!!
2 - After that crime they took shelter in a big mosque overlooking the square. Egyptians from the neighborhood gathered,wanted to storm the mosque and kill them. The police and military interfered,,stopped angry Egyptians and prevented a massacre.Today afternoon the police checked the mosque and pro Morsy protesters,arrested those who are armed and secured a safe passage for more than 150 of those protester.

See how reporters give a blind eye to such stories and mislead readers or viewers.
 

Abdessalam Diab (154)
Saturday August 17, 2013, 1:38 pm
Watch : The dirt Muslim ??? brotherhood terrorists left behind in the mosque

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zE2e7ckO07A&list=UUP4rilfFKdjXRC1guWNZ85g
 

Kit B. (276)
Saturday August 17, 2013, 5:37 pm

Yes, I see how just a little information fills in the blanks or can turn a story into something else. Thank you, again Abdessalam, and for the video.
 

Abdessalam Diab (154)
Sunday August 18, 2013, 4:31 am
1 - Isn't this wonderful and raises lot of questions? Obama administration and Taliban are on the same side against Egyptians will to depose Morsi ?
2 - What would the white house do if Al-Qaeda flags were flied in a march on constitution avenue or Pennsylvania Avenue in Washington DC ? How is it going to deal with terrorists sit-in that might OCCUPY Washington DC mall from Abraham Lincoln memorial to Capitol Hill for more than six weeks and refusing to leave peacefully ?
3 - Today BH terrorists are planning to put a siege around the supreme constitutional Court for the third time in a year ? Would this be acceptable by US government considering that they had set fire in a number of courts and attacked the Ministry of Justice on Tuesday August 13,2013 ?
 

Abdessalam Diab (154)
Sunday August 18, 2013, 5:48 am
Al-Azhar urges Brotherhood to renounce violence

Al-Azhar, Egypt's leading Sunni Islam authority, has urged the Muslim Brotherhood to renounce violence as protesters continue to engage in bloody clashes with local residents and security forces following the dispersals of two sit-ins last week.

Nearly 800 were killed during the dispersals and subsequent violence across the country.

On Saturday, Grand Sheikh of al-Azhar Ahmed al-Tayyeb, urged the Brotherhood to avoid bloodshed and to protect their country.

In a recorded message aired on state TV, Tayyeb said: "Scenes of violence will not win rights for anybody. Legitimacy cannot be acquired through bloodshed.”

"There is still a chance and a hope for many of you who have not been involved in instigating violence," he added, addressing Brotherhood supporters.

“Come to the protection of Egypt, the country where you were born and brought up, hurry to protect your country from sliding into a blind sedition that could set the nation on fire," Tayyeb warned.

Tayyeb stressed that al-Azhar still resists attempts to "polarize" and "influence" religious scholars by parties in the Egyptian crisis.

http://www.egyptindependent.com/news/al-azhar-urges-brotherhood-renounce-violence
 

Abdessalam Diab (154)
Sunday August 18, 2013, 6:34 am
Council of Egyptian Churches rejects foreign intervention

Basil El-Dabh / August 18, 2013

A statement from a council comprising of various churches announces support for police and army

The Council of Egyptian Churches rejected foreign interference in domestic affairs in a statement issued on Saturday evening.

The council, which includes representatives from the Coptic Orthodox, Catholic, Evangelical, Episcopal and Greek Orthodox churches, “affirmed the right of its citizens to defend themselves against terrorism.”

The statement issued by the group also condemned attacks on police stations, public property and citizens.

The Council of Egyptian Churches condemned continuous attacks on churches throughout the country, along with Christian property, calling on the armed forces to support police in their efforts to restore security and stability to the country.

The council is currently lead by the head of the Coptic Orthodox Church Pope Tawadros II.

The statement also accused western media of spreading misinformation and possessing “stubbornness against the free people of Egypt.” You may read more here :

http://www.dailynewsegypt.com/2013/08/18/council-of-egyptian-churches-rejects-foreign-intervention/
 

Kit B. (276)
Sunday August 18, 2013, 7:08 am

Thanks Abdessalam. Richard Engel has been giving excellent reports, though only as good as the time given to him, which is not nearly enough. He has addressed the terrorist tactics used by the Muslim Brotherhood, including attacks on government buildings, mosques and churches.
 
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