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Still Fraught: The Idea of a Black President

US Politics & Gov't  (tags: abuse, americans, dishonesty, ethics, Govtfearmongering, obama, politics, propaganda, republicans, right wing, media )

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The President stirred right wing media with recent comments. Chris Hayes weighs in.

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Past Member (0)
Wednesday January 22, 2014, 7:50 am
Repeating a comment I made on another article: There are whole generations of the U.S. government and other entities that are methodically breaking down our freedoms. Obama is just another puppet of the global powers that be. The pressures must be enormous. Nixon was the only president, that I remember, that did not go grey while in office. He didn't go grey until Watergate and possible impeachment.

Kit B (276)
Wednesday January 22, 2014, 8:33 am

If you watched the video and think that is not enough crazy:

The Right is no stranger to extremist views against President Obama. It is not very often, however, that one of those Republicans are a candidate for higher office and call for President Obama to be executed for treason. That is exactly what one wannabe GOP candidate is saying, and he is refusing to back down from his statement.

Joshua Black, 31, from Florida’s 68th district has sent out a tweet calling for President Obama to be hung for treason against the United States. On Mr. Black’s Twitter page, he said,

“I’m past impeachment. It’s time to arrest and hang him high.”

This brought immediate condemnation from both sides of the aisle. One Republican candidate, Chris Latvala of Florida’s House District 67, tweeted back,

“You aren’t seriously calling for the killing of Obama are you? I know you are crazy but good heavens. U R an embarrassment.”

Latvala then added,

“I make it my business when so called GOP candidates become an embarrassment to my beloved party.”

According to Black’s Facebook page, he believes, ” Republicans have a serious communication problem. Everything we say sounds like spears.”

Later in the evening, Black tweeted out,

“He should be executed for treason. I think the appropriate punishment is death. They killed Benedict Arnold. (Obama) shouldn’t be allowed to kill Americans without a trial.”

The irony in this statement is that Black is calling for President Obama to not receive a trial for impeachment or anything else, and taken out back to be lynched. However, reason is not something we should expect from somebody willing to make such inflammatory statements.

Black also added, “I guess they’re going to call me racist now.”

Black, being African-American, said this as a dig towards Liberals that often call out racists for racist statements made by the right. While his comments are not directly related to race, they are dripping with hatred. Considering the long history of lynching of blacks, racism is bound to be tied in. Further, the last time there was a state sanctioned execution by hanging, was 1996. We no longer hand criminals in this country, because it falls under cruel and unusual punishment.
This crazy continues with a Face book comment. You can read more at:

donald Baumgartner (6)
Wednesday January 22, 2014, 12:32 pm
The GOP is disgusting!!! Why don't they renounce these extremists remarks!! Hope they lose teir majorities in 2014!!!!

Birgit W (160)
Wednesday January 22, 2014, 1:35 pm
Scary indeed. Hate does not solve anything. Only compassion and love does.

ewoud k (68)
Wednesday January 22, 2014, 2:09 pm
In other words: in a polarized society like the US the right (GOP, Tea Party and equivalents) just hate everybody who thinks otherwise than they do, even if it's the president, even if he's black.

It's just that a democrat as president is considered as a socialist, a left-winger, in short: an adversary.

In France it's not much different, the right cries harder for Hollande to step down than the left asked Sarkozy to quit presidency. The critics are much harder now as well (not so much the contents, but the form, the words used).

Maybe the Dems (and the left in Europe) are just more tolerant....


Terry King (113)
Wednesday January 22, 2014, 2:21 pm
The president is black???? Who knew?

Stephen Brian (23)
Wednesday January 22, 2014, 3:18 pm
The president's words were taken out of context and that is dirty, dirty politics. It's the most common kind of attack in all of Western politics, but that doesn't make it any cleaner.

That said, I would have to see or hear more context about the president's statement to know if he really said race was not a big deal as far as support or opposition to him go, or if he said it was a major factor that happened to swing both ways or "a small, trivial concern". We are talking about, what Hayes calls the "single most explosive issue in American life",

Hayes starts his presentation, however, by saying he lost track of the number of race-based panics from the Right. That's pretty much him saying exactly what some people on Fox accused Obama of saying. This reminds me of a recent accusation of bigotry in a Chilean soccer-team: They were accused of bigotry due to a design on their jerseys. The accusation was pretty silly, but then the team's coach responded with what effectively amounts to a call for genocide against the alleged targets of that bigotry. Had Hayes just stopped at saying that the quote was taken badly out of context and this was dirty politics, restricting his commentary to the nature of the politicking, that would have been perfect, but he had to go and confirm exactly what the people on Fox believed about what liberals think because he's Chris Hayes, practically a caricature of modern liberals.

That said, his commentary at the end, about politics being interested in you whether or not you are interested in it, is absolutely accurate and it's something a lot of Americans need to hear. The clearest example that I can give of the difference between the American average and a group that gets this message hammered in is here:

Joshua Black called for a trial for treason, not a lynching. That said, he clearly fails to comprehend one of the basic foundations that keep democracy functional: Bad policy is not criminal. Illegal acts have certainly occurred under the Obama administration, but I do not believe any have been clearly tied to the president. Bad policy has, but that's not treason. When a leader's faction believes it stands to lose too much following the loss of an election, or that it could never hope to hold power again, the election becomes a potential catalyst for civil war. This has happened in Egypt, the Ivory Coast, and many other places recently.

. (0)
Wednesday January 22, 2014, 4:45 pm
Great article, Kit. Thanks for sharing.

JL A (281)
Wednesday January 22, 2014, 5:30 pm
Racism is alive and well in the US but many are blind to their own biases and bigotry.

Emma S (239)
Thursday January 23, 2014, 1:18 am
Only slightly less terrifying than the idea of a WOMAN president!

Angelika R (143)
Thursday January 23, 2014, 8:03 am
If the ongoing limitation of free speech would INCLUDE STUFF LIKE THIS, I'd be all for it.. Thx Kit!
@ Emma-??? are you thinking of a PARTICULAR woman prez? Who could mind Elisabeth ??

Angelika R (143)
Thursday January 23, 2014, 8:05 am
Ok, perhaps that was sarcasm, the right's view,..then I get you Emma! :)

Kit B (276)
Thursday January 23, 2014, 8:09 am

Actually I have a different candidate in mind, and one that comes with less enmity attached. I think we will have a woman president, and in the not too distant future. Though she will probably face the same resentments as Obama. Being first is not easy. Elizabeth Warren? She has stated that she will not run, I believe her.

Sorry to burst that bubble, Terry but yes, Obama as it turns out is a black man. I know it almost escaped awareness.


Regan Copple (16)
Thursday January 23, 2014, 8:49 am
Regardless of how many people are uneasy with the idea of Hillary Clinton as the first woman president, I think it's definitely going to happen. Hill & Bill & headed for the White House again in 2016, it's only 2 more years until the election cycle starts all over again & we have to endure the RepubliKan Klown Kar (note the 3 K's) with idiots such as Santorum, Bachmann, Huckabee, Rubio, Paul or Cruz (shudder), or any other looney-tunes Tea Party candidates the GOP feels like nominating. I think that most of these potential Republican nominees are going to be the gift that keeps on giving, because the country is going to soundly repudiate them at the polls, then they can go out into the wilderness for another term & shout at themselves why they lost, meanwhile all of thee Frothing-At-The-Mouth Clinton-Haters (FATMCH® - Patent Pending) will be driven barking mad by the thought of the woman they hounded all this time is now in the seat of ultimate power in the Western World. It should be a delight, I personally expect heads to explode at the prospect, garments will be rent, pearls will be clutched, bibles will be thumped, fainting couches will be occupied, & the shrieks of the rightwingers will echo across the land for many years.

Regan Copple (16)
Thursday January 23, 2014, 1:43 pm
Mmmmmmmmmmm, that's good shadenfreude!!!

Stephen Brian (23)
Friday January 24, 2014, 8:50 pm
I don't know if the nutcases would freak out quite enough about a female president. How about a homosexual one? I actually have a guy in mind, definitely a Democrat, but generally trusted and respected by Republicans outside of the crazy fringes. With experience on the business-end of a lot of major issues and policies gone wrong (and even some gone right) and a history of holding both parties to account, he would be one of my top picks if I could choose the next U.S. president. I'll let you guess who he is. :)
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