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Israel: Small But Beautiful


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Kit
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Israel is located in the Middle East at the Eastern part of the Mediterranean Sea.



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Kit B. (276)
Thursday March 20, 2014, 1:46 pm
Map Credit: Temple builders.com


Israel is located in the Middle East at the Eastern part of the Mediterranean Sea. There are over 8,000 people in Israel, 3/4 of the 8,000,000 are of Jewish origin and Israel is known as the land of the Jew. Israel has two nation languages, Hebrew and Arabic. Israeli life revolves around the Hebrew calendar and work and school days are scheduled around the Jewish Holidays. Israel has the highest life expectancy then any other city in the world. Some other known and lesser known facts about Israel are too numerous, however a few of these facts are as follows:

--- 5 Facts You Might Not Know

1) A student in Israel can expect to attend school for 15 years and education is mandatory. Israel is third in the world with students who earn academic degrees, which makes it easier to understand how six Nobel Prize winning scientists have come from Israel, since 2002.

2) In 1948 Israel became an independent state and the Jewish population since 1948 has been returning to their home country. The Jewish Nation is known in the Bible as the Kingdom of Israel or The Holy Land. Other nations have been trying for years to take Israel from the Jewish people and have been unsuccessful, as God had rendered Israel as the country land of the Jewish population. For this reason Israel has a long history of conflict.

3) Israel receives snow at least once during the winter months. The more mountainous areas can be cold, windy and snowy.

4) Court systems defend freedom of human rights and liberties in Israel. Defense forces include the Israeli, Army, Air Force, and Navy.

5) Israel is one of the most advanced industrial and economic developed countries in the Middle East. Israel is strong in the theater arts. Israel is self sufficient in production of food. Music and dance is a big part of Israel and stems from all over the world. Religions in Israel include Jew's, Christians, Muslims and Bahai's. Israel has large religious tourisms with the largest number of museums of any other city, and has two international airports.
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The modern country of Israel includes two distinct nationalities, the Palestinian and the Jewish. Each nationality is inextricable from its religious identity. The Palestinians are Arabs whose traditions are founded in Muslim culture; the Jews define their culture in large part around their religion as well. Each group identifies as part of a larger, international religious and cultural community, and each has a history in the region that goes back to ancient times.

Location and Geography.

Israel is in the Middle East on the Mediterranean Sea, bordering Egypt, the Gaza Strip, Jordan, Lebanon, Syria, and the West Bank. Its total area is 8,019 square miles (20,770 square kilometers), slightly smaller than New Jersey. The Negev Desert covers the south of the country. Mountains rise in the central region from the low coastal plain along the Mediterranean. The Jordan River stretches 200 miles (322 kilometers) from Syria in the north, emptying into the Dead Sea. The Dead Sea (technically a lake) is, at 1,312 feet (400 meters) below sea level, the lowest inland sea on earth.

Emergence of the Nation.

There is archaeological evidence of settlements in Israel dating from nine thousand to eleven thousand years ago. It is thought that the first people of the kingdom of Israel migrated from Mesopotamia. Much of the history of ancient Israel is laid out in the Bible. The Israelites were slaves in Egypt from about 1750 to 1280 B.C.E. , when Moses led the Jewish people in Exodus. They wandered in the desert for forty years. Moses died, and Joshua took the helm and led the people into the land of Canaan, or the Promised Land. The epoch that followed was known as the period of the judges, when Israel was ruled by judges and priests. Saul became the first king of Israel in 1020 B.C.E. He was succeeded by his rival, David, in 1004. Under David's rule, Jerusalem became the capital. Solomon ascended to the throne in 965 B.C.E. , and ruled for nearly forty years, during which time the First Temple was built. In 925 the kingdom split into two parts, Israel and Judah. In 721 Israel was conquered by Assyria, and in 586 it was taken over by Babylonia. The city of Jerusalem was destroyed, and the Jews were exiled to Babylon.

Food in Daily Life.

Falafel, ground chickpeas mixed with onions and spices formed into balls and fried, are served in pita bread as a sandwich. Other popular dishes include tabuleh (a salad of bulgar wheat and chopped vegetables), hummus (chickpea paste), grilled meats, and eggplant. Cumin, mint, garlic, onion, and black pepper are used for flavoring. Baklava is a popular dessert of Arabic origin and consists of flaky dough layered with honey and nuts. Coffee is often prepared in the Turkish style, extremely strong and thick and served in small cups.

Jews are bound by a set of dietary laws called kashrut , which, among other restrictions, forbid the consumption of pork and shellfish, as well as the consumption of both meat and milk products at the same meal. Not all Israelis observe these rules, but many restaurants do.

Food Customs at Ceremonial Occasions.

Food plays an important role in nearly all Jewish celebrations. The Sabbath, observed on Saturday, is ushered in on Friday evening with a family meal including an egg bread called challah. At the Jewish New Year the challah is baked in a circle, symbolizing the cyclical nature of life. Apples and honey also are eaten, symbolizing the wish for a sweet new year. Hamentaschen are traditionally served at Purim, the celebration of Queen Esther's triumph over the evil Haman, who was trying to annihilate the Jewish people. These are cookies filled with lekvar (prune preserves) and baked in the shape of a triangle. Some believe hamentaschen symbolizes the tricornered hat of Haman; others think it is his pockets, and still others think it represents his ears, which were clipped as a sign of shame. During Passover, Jews abstain from eating all leavened foods (bread, pasta, etc.). Instead they eat matzoh ,a flat, crackerlike bread. This is in memory of the Exodus from Israel, when the Jews could not wait for their bread to rise, and so carried it on their backs to bake in the sun. Passover also is observed with a ritual meal called a seder. Four glasses of wine, representing God's four promises to Israel ("I will bring you out of Egypt;" "I will deliver you;" "I will redeem you;" and "I will take you to be my people"), are drunk throughout the evening. Other symbolic foods at the occasion include boiled eggs (symbolizing new life) and charosis (a mixture of apples and walnuts, representing the mortar the Jews used as slaves). On Shavuot in the late spring, dairy-based treats are served. Because cooking is forbidden on the Sabbath, a traditional Saturday meal is cholent , a thick stew that is left in the oven to simmer overnight.

Government. Israel is a parliamentary democracy, divided into six administrative districts. There is no formal constitution; instead, there is the Declaration of Establishment, from 1948, the Basic Laws of the parliament ( Knesset ), and the Israel citizenship law. The head of government is the prime minister, elected by popular vote for a four-year term. The 120 members of the Knesset also are elected for four years. The Knesset selects the president, who serves as chief of state.

Leadership and Political Officials. There about twelve political parties represented in the Knesset, ranging from the far right wing to the far left, and many in between. The most powerful of the conservative parties is the fairly centrist Likud . The Labor Party is the liberal party with the most clout, and the one Palestinian Israelis tend to support. The Palestinian Liberation Organization, headed by Yassar Arafat, is the main political representation of Palestinians seeking the formation of a separate state.

Medicine and Health Care

Israel has a well-developed health care system. It has one of the highest ratios of doctors to general population in the world. Since independence, sanitation has improved, and the rate of infectious diseases has decreased. Histadrut, the labor federation, runs Kupat Cholim, or Sick Fund, which provides health care to members through regional hospitals and local clinics. The Ministry of Health provides for those who do not receive care from a sick fund. In general, Jews receive better health care than Arabs. The life expectancy is longer for Jews, and the infant mortality rate is significantly lower.

Read more: http://www.everyculture.com/Ge-It/Israel.html#ixzz2wXPm5NUX
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Kit B. (276)
Thursday March 20, 2014, 1:52 pm

First, this is a part of our virtual travel, therefore it is not posted for any form of political discussion. Second, I often use the site "every culture" because it usually gives some good, if generalized information. I am not a biblical literalist and find much of the historical information above to be poor quality academic study. Either way it is a touch of information about one of many countries with an ancient history in the middle east.

Enjoy your trip.
 

Barbara D. (79)
Thursday March 20, 2014, 3:03 pm
Obviously I'm not impartial, but I do have to say that Israel is very high on my list of countries I've visited/lived in.
Hauntingly beautiful, the people very hospitable, and extremely advanced in science, medicine, and technologies.
The food is generally spicy and boring, but international cuisine is readily available
.If you can only get passed the incessant raid sirens........
 

Pat B. (355)
Thursday March 20, 2014, 3:34 pm
I would go on a nature walk, see the ruins and the Dead Sea, watch the bird migrations, explore the Red Sea, take in a show or play, and relax with a bike ride. Very nice visit, I enjoyed my trip to Israel. Thank you, Kit for our tour.
 

Natasha Salgado (578)
Thursday March 20, 2014, 5:46 pm
I'd love to drop in the Dead Sea before it perishes. Thx Kit
 

JL A. (276)
Thursday March 20, 2014, 7:51 pm
One of many places well worth a visit if only to become better informed.
 

walter f F. (77)
Thursday March 20, 2014, 10:50 pm
Thanks for posting Kit Like all others with Jewish blood in their veins I can take pride in this nation and its people.Far too many negative comments are made about Israel and its people in care 2 posts.It is good to see something positive an praising.
 

Glenn Byrnes (192)
Friday March 21, 2014, 12:13 am
It is a beautiful country. I should know. I lived there for a year.
 

Robert O. (12)
Friday March 21, 2014, 12:38 am
Fascinating place. Thanks Kit.
 

Stan B. (123)
Friday March 21, 2014, 2:27 am
Thanks for this insight into one of the most amazing countries on the planet. I've been there twice and will never forget the friendly people and the places of great historical interest to people's of all faiths which the Israelis go to great pains to protect.
 

David B. (12)
Friday March 21, 2014, 5:04 am
Israel: Small but deadly. Just ask a passing Palestinian.
 

Abdessalam Diab (151)
Friday March 21, 2014, 7:18 am
A state that displaced more than 2 million Palestinians and tuned them to refugees. Go visit it. Steel Palestinians land and build a house.The government will neither blame nor punish you.
 

Kit B. (276)
Friday March 21, 2014, 7:48 am

Just had to bring politics into this. This is (again) a part of the travel articles I have been submitting. Many of the countries I have submitted do have deep political turmoil, most people are able to contain their emotions and just enjoy the virtual trip. If you want to discuss the Israel - v- Palestine question please do submit your own article on that topic.
 

JL A. (276)
Friday March 21, 2014, 8:34 am
When sociologists or cultural anthropologist visit a country or region, what emerges from their interviews and studies is that few people spend much time focused on politics; people spend their time on activities of daily living. Similarly, when asked what makes them proud to be a part of their homeland the answers often focus on natural wonders and historical elements--the kinds of things that make the World Heritage lists. Your travel articles help to strip away the political focus for us all to be able to see the ordinary life and what may be unique in each of the countries. Thank you Kit.
 

Kit B. (276)
Friday March 21, 2014, 8:38 am

Thanks J L. I do appreciate the kind words.
 

Val R. (254)
Friday March 21, 2014, 10:34 am
Wonderful Kit - love the sedar wine drinking idea - not surprised about the academics and "human rights" - what a concept! These are so much fun!
 

Nicole W. (645)
Friday March 21, 2014, 10:58 am
as always, enlightening, ty you for inviting us on this excursion dear Kit
 

Debra G. (0)
Friday March 21, 2014, 2:57 pm
A decent book about the various populations of Israel is "The Israelis: ordinary People in an Extraordinary Land" by Donna Rosenthal (http://www.amazon.com/The-Israelis-Ordinary-People-Extraordinary/dp/0743270355). Druze, Falashim, Haredim...
 

Barbara K. (70)
Friday March 21, 2014, 4:08 pm
Thank you, my friend, for another beautiful vacation, added to my list of some-day vacations. Beautiful country. Glad it is Israels'.
 

Christine Linley (11)
Friday March 21, 2014, 4:26 pm
A very curtailed visit !
I saw no illegal separation wall ,
no illegal settlements,
no child prisoner
s no refugees denied the right of return to the homes they were forced out of in 1948 .
Shame on you to flaunt your "beautiful" spoils of war.
 

David B. (12)
Friday March 21, 2014, 4:29 pm
"I saw no illegal separation wall , no illegal settlements," ... There are none so blind as those who do not want to see.
 

Barbara D. (79)
Friday March 21, 2014, 4:40 pm
David and Abdessalam, Kit graciously gives her time and effort to provide us with educational information and beautiful visuals of areas and countries that we may never see ~ or may be inspired to visit.
Please don't destroy the ambience with discordance and political rhetoric.
Thank you.
 

Angelika R. (144)
Friday March 21, 2014, 4:41 pm
Admittedly hard not to bring politics in here, but, in respect of Kit's first comment, acknowledging this as in each her travel posts, I'll just say thank you for the trip. Wish everyone had the lot of sunshine that country enjoys!
 

marie c. (168)
Friday March 21, 2014, 6:29 pm
Well said Angelika also Barbara D
Thank you Kit for another wonderful trip
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Stan B. (123)
Saturday March 22, 2014, 12:32 am
Abdessalem. Kit asked for no political comments on this thread. You are totally lacking in respect for everything and everyone. Shame on you!!
 

Alfred Donovan (46)
Saturday March 22, 2014, 2:34 am
Several years ago my wife and I holidayed in Israel we were based in Jerusalem and traveled extensivly around the country it was the best holiday I ever had.I would recommend it to anyone.
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday March 22, 2014, 5:13 am
Agreed Boods and Stan B. Thank you Kit.
 

David Foster (0)
Saturday March 22, 2014, 6:48 am
I assume/hope Christine Linley's comments are ironic.
First time I've seen the Bible used as historical and geographic authority.
I thought this was a new article but seeing that Yasser Arafat (Died November 11, 2004) is named as leader of PLO I wonder if other content is also out of date - sorry, because I enjoyed reading it.
 

Abdessalam Diab (151)
Saturday March 22, 2014, 6:52 am
16 days ago my friend Kit post a similar post about Hungary .
http://www.care2.com/news/member/451276626/3748943
My comment there was " Thursday March 6, 2014, 6:11 am
Thanks Kit for this information. You know that in October/November 1956 while France,Britain and Israel launched their aggression against Egypt after President Nasser nationalized Sues Canal, Hungarians revolted against the communist authority but the Russians interfered and crushed that revolution. "

My friend Kit and other commentators didn't say any thing about that comment. I wonder why when it comes to Israel, she and others are so angry? Is there some sort of immunity given to the Zionist entity ? Why did you flag my comment here and didn't on the post about Hugary ? Apparently you don't want to see the truth. The text posted about that Zionist entity is full of propaganda. " Small but beautiful " . Isn't it the only country that is occupying other people's land?
Kit herself posted before about this " *Take Action* 40,000 Bedouin People Displaced = Human Rights Disaster!

http://www.care2.com/news/member/451276626/3600816
 

Barbara D. (79)
Saturday March 22, 2014, 7:30 am
Ab, not a worthy comparison. One comment is historical fact, the other is vitriolic criticism.
 

Christine Linley (11)
Saturday March 22, 2014, 9:02 am
In 1937 my mother's friend visited Germany and came back enthusing about the beautiful autbahns, the cleanlinessof the towns, the serenityof the parks , the happy healthy people .
She brought my mother back a travel article .
 

Kit B. (276)
Saturday March 22, 2014, 9:06 am

David Foster, yes I did notice some information was out of date, but there are few good sites for historical and cultural information.

Abdessalam, I'm not angry. I only wished to keep this thread free of the vitriol so common on threads about the politics of Israel and Palestine. I try to submit a couple of travel videos with some historical, geographical and cultural information twice a week and when that country is in grave turmoil I may opt out of using it for that reason. Others as is true of Israel, Egypt, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan and some others, there is so much history that it is not easy to just pretend the country, the land does not exist. I believe that most have drawn their own ideas about the politics of Israel-v-Palestine. Those are certainly appropriate for discussion on other threads posted for that purpose. This is just a virtual travel video with some information about the country.

Thank you for understanding.
 

Michael Kirkby (86)
Saturday March 22, 2014, 9:14 am
Noted. I got as far as Turkey.
 

Nancy C. (812)
Saturday March 22, 2014, 1:35 pm
Thank you so much Kit! Watching this for some reason reminded me that as a child on our family trips, we'd visit nature, cathedrals and zoos. I became an artist!!!
 

Eleonora Oldani (46)
Saturday March 22, 2014, 3:41 pm
Poor Kit - you sure meant well.

Sorry, but one can't separate things. I'm missing the gender segregation going on inside some of Israel's segments of society among Jewish men and women - not good publicity I guess. Or the separate lines in some supermarkets or the buses, where Jewish (Haredi) women must sit in the back like Rosa Park in her days. Or the "Modesty Patrols" in Jerusalem who make sure that Jewish women dress modestly. Or the roads marked "for Jews only", etc. It's like depicting the South Africa in the 80's ... only showing the "chocolate side" (?)

Most of all you can't separate this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsrVXWBiTfA (a report by the Australian TV "The real Israeli occupation against Palestinian") from Israel. It's part of the daily life there and at the core of Israel's existence.

Peace - Shalom -Salam to all of you.
 

pam w. (191)
Saturday March 22, 2014, 10:03 pm
Interesting video--it reflects the ''small'' perspective.

Things there are so close to other things there....hard to imagine such GREAT mythological events happening in such a small place! If you have a local guide, they'll show you sites ALLEGEDLY in the bible and I watched a group of German people dunk themselves repeatedly in the Jordan river.

When I think of Israel, I remember a MASS of energetic young people and that sense of how SMALL it is!

Not ONLY that....but....having been to Egypt AND Israel.....I laugh a LOT about the old myth describing those poor Jews and how they wandered FOURTY YEARS.....trying to get back home!

 

Giana Peranio-Paz (395)
Sunday March 23, 2014, 1:58 am
A beautiful interesting and very hospitable country to visit! I should know, I have been living here for 60 years!!! I have raised my children here and are raising my grandchildren here as well. They are all healthy, peace loving and wonderful persons. I think that before anyone raises any political views, they should visit and really talk to our Arab citizens and to the Palestinians too, face to face.
 

Abdessalam Diab (151)
Sunday March 23, 2014, 8:59 am
Barbara D.
I am sorry for you because you can't or you don't want to see the fact. That said.I understood the reasons behind my friend Kit point of view which she kindly told me in a separate message
 

Eleonora Oldani (46)
Sunday March 23, 2014, 4:31 pm
To Giana - I don't think that anyone would dispute your first sentence to which I sign too. But that is only one side of the coin and only applies to non-Arab visitors.

I was scheduled to go to a Kibbutz early 70's - due to health reasons I had to cancel and a friend of mine went instead. She - and the whole group - came back totally different persons simply because they had their eyes and minds open. What she witnessed had nothing to do with the Israel most people in Switzerland felt they had to protect in a way or another. Countless people who visit Israel not just as tourists but to live there made and still make the same experience - only that the gap has become wider and the facts on the ground uglier. They not only witness the beauty of Israel - they also witness the ugly and brutal effects of the occupation. What's equally disturbing is the destruction the occupation wrecks among the ordinary Jewish Israeli people. For me my personal experiences meant that I support Gush Shalom and Jewish Voices for Peace. We should stop burrying our heads and face the true problems - only then can a just and viable solution for the long term be found.

But I understand and respect that Kit doesn't want this to become a political debate. Just felt that I should tell you this based on your remark "I think that before anyone raises any political views, they should visit ...".

Shalom and stay safe!
 

Bob A. (13)
Monday March 24, 2014, 1:41 pm
Eleonora,

I visited Israel several times for a vacation spot, and found the people - both Jews and Arabs - living peacefully and hospitable.

I found Israel to be democratic - for the first time in my life I saw a big march of cars, with a plenty of red flag, with riders shouting slogans in Arabic - and all that while protected by Israel police. There was nobody throwing stones at them, or something like that. Peaceful protest running peacefully.

I read various proclamations and appeals from the Arab MKs, posted right on city fences. They attacked Israeli system without mercy and on terms, unheard of here, yet nobody was tearing them down.

When I had to go to a hospital, I saw both patients and doctors wearing traditional Palesitnian dresses, and again, not stoned, or insulted. People just worked together. Whatever you call an occupation, was a very friendly one. The one, that makes lots of Arabs to desire to move into Israel even from Arab countries.

Abdessalam may confirm, Egypt took a law stripping Egyptian citizen marrying Israelis and moving to Israel. This racist Egyptian law applies only to those, who marry Israelis. Those, who marry others are entitled to keep Egyptian citizenship.

I saw buses for religious people in Jerusalem, with separate sitting. There were also secular buses available for secular people. I don't see who that separate seating is different from, say, Islamic rules of gender separation. This is just a service offered to a significant portion of population. Those who don't like it don't need to use it. That's why your comparison with Rosa Park is incorrect - she did NOT have a choice.

Roads marked for "Jews only" were created not because these roads are better, Eleonora. They often run parallel to roads, open for Palestinian Arabs, and Israel could save lots of money NOT building them. The problem is constant terrorism, that Palestinians cause on common roads. You can read stories about Palestinian terrorists throwing boulders at the cars, riding in the opposite directions on a highway, killing peaceful and innocent Israelis. Sometimes, they kill even Israeli Arabs by mistake.

These separate roads are not luxury, they save Israeli lives. Jihad is Jihad, and Israel must be vigilant to defend its people, Arabs and Jews.

Salaam to you. "We should stop burrying our heads and face the true problems - only then can a just and viable solution for the long term be found. "

That is so true!




 

David B. (12)
Monday March 24, 2014, 2:04 pm
"I found Israel to be democratic" ... Palestinians killed by Israeli soldiers might not agree?
 

David B. (12)
Monday March 24, 2014, 2:06 pm
Denial is not just a river in Egypt.
 

Bob A. (13)
Monday March 24, 2014, 2:20 pm
Terrorists, Palestinian or not, trying to kill other people, must be killed, David, to protect the innocent people.

It is fully democratic. Democratic does not mean "stupid", or "reckless". What goes around comes around.

"Denial is not just a river in Egypt." - agreed.
 

Barbara D. (79)
Monday March 24, 2014, 2:37 pm
Merriam-Wbster Democracy:
: a form of government in which people choose leaders by voting
: a country ruled by democracy
: an organization or situation in which everyone is treated equally and has equal rights

Would the Palestinian man in the street consider his OWN government democratic?














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Full Definition of DEMOCRACY


1

a : government by the people; especially : rule of the majority

b : a government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised by them directly or indirectly through a system of representation usually involving periodically held free elections
 

Eleonora Oldani (46)
Monday March 24, 2014, 4:20 pm
Bob - it is quite obvious that you

a) have not watched the linked video about the occupation (which is your good right but then you shouldn't comment on something you refuse to see) or
b) you prefer to stick your head in the sand ... which is your right too but then again you shouldn't ...

I do NOT address the living together of the different people who live in Israel proper and you know that. Your polemic is cheap, sorry to say that so frankly.

Women who have to use one of the 33 segregated bus lines DON'T have a choice - either you know that or you've never been there. Thos who are forced to got to "women only" tilts have NO choice. Those women who are forced to use different sidewalks and entries DON'T have a choice. Comparing such treatment (remember? democracy?) to the Islamic gender segregation - which BTW is only enforced strictly enforced in Saudi, Iran and Afghanistan - is lousy. Now suddenly gender segregation is not a bone to pick on?!

BTW - Apartheid doesn't marry with real democracy. That Israel is a democracy is not denied (only by fools maybe) - but it's only a democracy for Jews as they themselves state so openly.

I did NOT claim that the roads "for Jews only" are better as you like to insinuate. The separate roads are NOT built because of what you love to call Jihad. Neither do Israeli Arabs attack Israeli Jews on the roads. If they were - the news would be filled with nothing but!

You write: "Whatever you call an occupation, was a very friendly one." It's been a long time that I've read such an inhuman comment. I can only pitty someone with such a mindset as you obviously seem to have.


 

Eleonora Oldani (46)
Monday March 24, 2014, 4:24 pm
My sincere apologies to Kit - I shall refrain in the future from replying to political comments even if they're outrageous.
 

Barbara D. (79)
Monday March 24, 2014, 4:36 pm
Bob A, thank you for your well written and thorough comment. I agree, as do my family and friends in Israel.
 

Bob A. (13)
Monday March 24, 2014, 10:49 pm
Eleonora,

a) I did not watch the YouTube video, and have no intention to. Pallywood produces probably thousands of fake provocative videos, and I can't spend my time on them. I did watch a few, found same actors pretending to be dead in several of them, and stopped.

b) Cheap rhetoric does not bring much. I am returning your "you prefer to stick your head in the sand ... which is your right too but then again you shouldn't ... " to you.

"I do NOT address the living together of the different people who live in Israel proper and you know that."??? Please re-read your own post. By comparing Israel to South Africa or bringing up Rose Park you are trying to push an idea that Israeli lifestyle is somehow hosts racial segregation. That idea would be an obvious lie.

The differences between Jews and Arabs are not due to different races - both peoples are Semitic.

Speaking of gender segregation, you again showed that you have no clues on what is going on. There are religious and secular buses for those who want these lines of transportation. The decision to have these two lines was democratically voted by the city council because a significant portion of Jerusalem population wanted it. You or I may not like them, but that what Jerusalemites wanted to have and got.

Why my comparison to similar rules of gender segregation in many Islamic countries is lousy? The gender-segregated buses are optional and exist pretty much only in Jerusalem, while in Arab and Islamic countries way worse rules are way more comprehensive, without alternative options and with cruel physical punishments for their violation.

Only the person who never saw Arab MKs in action can claim that Israel is a democracy only for the Jews. Arab MK got a spy for Hesbolla, who later ran away from the investigation, and yet continue to receive his MK salary from Lebanon. Israel has a proportionate voting system, which allows representation of way smaller population groups, than our system "First past the pole". Tell you frankly, ignorance may be very annoying, especially when it is loud.

Try to think, why would Israelis need to build parallel roads, one for Palestinian Arabs and another for Israelis. If you want to see relevant news - here is a link about a father and his infant son killed by Palestinian terrorists, who threw boulders at their car: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deaths_of_Asher_and_Yonatan_Palmer. The fact that this and many other similar stories are not in the news just shows that local media has huge pro-Palestinian bias.

Calling Israeli life "occupatoin" is most ridiculous and false claim, one can come up with. Arab nation already got 22 states, taking 10,000 times more land than Israel. These 22 states deny minorities suffering under their rule - Arab Christians, Druze, Kurds, Bahai - basic human rights, not even talking about rights for self-determination.

And you know what? I disagree with their sense of entitlement for ALL lands in the Middle East. It is ridiculous that UNWRA is paying subsidies to 5 Million of "Palestinian Refugees", while only 30,000 are the real refugees from 1948. The rest - are descendants of 2-3-4-5 generations of those who ever lived in Palestine between June 1946 and May 1948.

It is ridiculous, that UNWRA keeps these Palestinian Refugees" as World Best Paid Refugees tens years after the wars ended, while the Non-Palestinian refugees, living in much harsher conditions, get way less.

There is nothing "inhuman" in rejecting your motion of "occupation", it is only observation, comparison and common sense.

And I am returning you your conclusion: "I can only pity someone with such a mindset as you obviously seem to have. "
 

Past Member (0)
Tuesday March 25, 2014, 4:51 pm
No comment :)
 

Abdessalam Diab (151)
Wednesday March 26, 2014, 7:51 am
Why then Israel doesn't want the ONE state solution? Remember that that ONE state will be named PALESTINE>. The same name used by League of Nations after the end of WW 1 when PALESTINE was put under the British mandate.
 

Abdessalam Diab (151)
Wednesday March 26, 2014, 8:13 am
Israel cut off refugee camp north of Jerusalem from water supply, activists say
A third of inhabitants of Shoafat have no water at all, and rest can get only very weak dribble.

By Nir Hasson and Chaim Levinson | Mar. 25, 2014 | 3:27 AM

There has been a serious water shortage in the Palestinian refugee camp of Shoafat for almost three weeks, activists in the camp said.

One-third of the inhabitants in the camp north of Jerusalem have no water at all, and the rest can get only a very weak dribble coming out of the faucet, the sources said.

Over the last few days Jerusalem’s Gihon water company has installed an additional line and a tap at the entrance to the camp, but residents say this has not solved the problem.

The Arab affairs liaison at the police force’s Jerusalem district has warned his superiors that leaving the issue unresolved will foment unrest in the camp.

“This year the problems started earlier than expected,” wrote Doron Zehavi, the police liaison. “They claim that Israel is doing this in order to harm their basic rights to receive water, comparing it to what was done in Syria, where food supply to the Yarmuk refugee camp was stopped. All the authorities must find a reasonable solution to this problem, which will only increase with time.”

The police met with Gihon officials over the last few days, but Gihon says someone has to pay for the extra water if the company is to supply it. In the meantime, Gihon is increasing the diameter of a water line near the Shoafat roadblock, in the hope that this will increase the water flow within the camp.

The water shortage in the camp began with the erection of the separation fence, which left the camp, as well as the neighborhoods of Ras Khamis, Ras Shehade and Dahiyat al-Salam, on the Palestinian side of the fence, even though most of the inhabitants have Israeli identity cards and are Israeli residents.

As the Israeli authorities neglected to maintain the infrastructure in these neighborhoods, the number of residents grew sharply due to the removal of any supervision over construction there. This led to a situation in which aging infrastructure that had been intended to serve 15,000 residents now has to serve 50,000.

Nearly every summer there are prolonged interruptions to the water supply, but this year the problems appeared earlier than expected.

Gihon says the state needs to invest large sums of money to solve the problem, and the Israel Water Authority says it cannot resolve the issue with the amount of water currently available.

“Inter-ministerial cooperation is required in order to deal with the problems and risks involved,” the water authority said. “At this stage the Gihon company is making an effort to solve the problem despite the insufficient infrastructure.”

Last week the Knesset’s committee on public petitions, headed by MK Adi Kol, discussed the issue after Kol received a letter from the water authority stating that police had canceled a planned visit by Gihon officials who had been planning to examine the infrastructure in Shoafat. The reason for the cancelation was increased tension following the killing of three Palestinians in Jenin over the weekend.

Residents of Shoafat and adjacent neighborhoods say that over the last two Fridays the police prevented young people under 45 from passing through the roadblock, during morning and early afternoon hours. This resulted from tension on the Temple Mount and a decision to limit the age of worshipers.

However, this was the first time that people were blocked at the entrance to the municipal area rather than at the entrance to the Old City and the Temple Mount. This is “tantamount to the illegal imprisonment of thousands of residents behind a fence without the possibility of leaving for work, for other errands or medical treatment for themselves or family members,” the Association for Civil Rights in Israel said in a letter to the Jerusalem police.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/national/.premium-1.581779
 

Barbara D. (79)
Wednesday March 26, 2014, 8:18 am
Then, Ab, perhaps someone should actually sit down and negotiate an amicable solution with Israel so that the Palestinians can have their own independent state.
Their presence has been noticably lacking...........
 

Bob A. (13)
Wednesday March 26, 2014, 9:47 am
Ab,

One State solution is probably what will really happen. Part of the West Bank will make an Autonomous Region with Jordan, which is another Palestinian Arab state.

Gaza will be returned to Egyptian administration, as it was before 1967. Al-Sisi knows how to deal with Islamists to make Hamas not being a problem, and Egyptians will be happy for the deal, if UNWRA billions are paid to Egypt instead.

Israel will likely want to keep its name, which it had way before Romans changed it to Palestine. It makes no difference to Arab League, though.
 

Abdessalam Diab (151)
Thursday March 27, 2014, 7:40 am
Bob
I am sure you are dreaming. Wake up. Dreams sometimes turn to be nightmares
 

Barbara D. (79)
Thursday March 27, 2014, 7:51 am
Bob, you ARE dreaming!! They will never accept Israel's existence as an independent state in the Middle East.
 

Bob A. (13)
Monday March 31, 2014, 4:56 am
Bob and Barbara,

Sometimes dreams can come up true. Yes, Ab, even the nightmares.

As soon, as western countries place at least responsibilities for the wars against Israel started by the Arab League on the Arab states, with financial duties towards refugees, you will see "refugee" being absorbed into these Arab states in lieu of payments.

Arab states make sound voices, but do not contribute much. As soon, as they are stopped being freeloaders, everyone will see changes, and soon.

This is the only way to end this conflict anyway.
 

Melania Padilla (185)
Tuesday April 1, 2014, 3:33 pm
Thanks!!
 

Stephen Brian (23)
Monday May 5, 2014, 9:47 am
Quick piece of advice when visiting Israel:

Your first excursion into nature there should be at the Dead Sea. Cuts and scrapes are not rare occurrences on hikes, and you really, really don't want to get those before going in the Dead Sea. It's so salty that the density of the water has risen to the point where some people can float sitting up and there were large beautiful salt-crystals on the shore when I went. Just to make things worse, a good swimmer's first reaction is to swim normally, facing downwards with eyes in the water or getting splashed when trying to get out after getting salt in a cut. Go to the Dead Sea first, and then go on hikes.

Also, some visitors get spooked when seeing armed, uniformed soldier in the streets. This is a country with mass-conscription where just about every neighborhood includes veterans and parents of kids in the army, so the sight of soldiers is normally welcomed by the locals, not a cause for concern. Don't worry about it.
 

Clare M. (80)
Saturday May 17, 2014, 10:23 am
Israel would be beautiful without Zionists
Israel would be beautiful without illegal settlers
Israel would be beautiful without an illegal wall
Israel would be beautiful without illegal nuclear weapons
Israel would be beautiful with the returned Palestinian people
Israel would be beautiful with peace for Jews, Muslims & Christians who have their religions based in the region

Sadly whilst 1-4 are still there # 5 & 6 have no chance
 

Clare M. (80)
Saturday May 17, 2014, 10:24 am
And maybe Kit, it would be a good idea to call the country but its real name for the map you used, Israel and the Occupied Palestinian Territories :-)
 

Evelyn B. (49)
Sunday June 8, 2014, 11:51 pm
I understand your main concern here was to provide a tourist guide type information - good for you, Kit

But what you probably didn't realise was that the map you used as a thumbnail IS a political statement!!
Clare is 100% correct: the map should be called Israel and the Occupied Palestinian Territories.
Labelling the Occupied Territories "Israel" is a very political statement - albeit unwittingly, in your case.
 
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