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Creationists Complain Neil DeGrasse Tyson's 'Cosmos' Isn't Giving Them Airtime


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Kit
- 277 days ago - talkingpointsmemo.com
Creationists are accusing astrophysicist Neil deGrasse Tyson's reboot of "Cosmos: A Spacetime Odyssey" of being scientifically unbalanced because it doesn't represent their beliefs.



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Kit B. (276)
Saturday March 22, 2014, 1:34 pm



Creationists are accusing astrophysicist Neil deGrasse Tyson's reboot of "Cosmos: A Spacetime Odyssey" of being scientifically unbalanced because it doesn't represent their beliefs.


Right Wing Watch posted audio of Danny Faulkner of Answers In Genesis and the Creation Museum speaking Thursday on "The Janet Mefford Show,” in which he blasted deGrasse Tyson for ignoring the creationist point of view.

"Creationists aren’t even on the radar screen for them, they wouldn’t even consider us plausible at all," Faulkner told host Janet Mefford.

"But when you have so many scientists who simply do not accept Darwinian evolution, it seems to me that that might be something to throw in there," Mefford said. "You know, the old, ‘some scientists say this, others disagree and think this,’ but that’s not even allowed."

Faulkner said that in the first episode of "Cosmos" deGrasse Tyson talked about all views being up for discussion in the field of science, but said he wasn't following through on that standard.

“I thought to myself no, consideration of special creation is definitely not open for discussion it would seem,” Faulkner said.

As Mother Jones reported, it's not just the explanation of evolution on "Cosmos" that angers the creationist crowd: DeGrasse Tyson was also critiqued for covering global warming and the big bang theory.

And an Oklahoma Fox affiliate raised eyebrows last week when it apologized for cutting fifteen seconds from the "Cosmos" premiere, which contained the episode's only reference to evolution, and blamed it on an "operator error." The mishap came just after an anti-science bill that would make it easier for teachers to critique established scientific theories like evolution passed the Oklahoma House.
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Kit B. (276)
Saturday March 22, 2014, 1:38 pm

There are a FEW scientists that put the bible or creationists ideas before science, very few. This program is science, just science. The best is that for those who cut their teeth on Carl Sagan, Neil deGrasse Tyson has the same ability to put some very complicated science into easy to comprehend terminology.

Should people want to ignore science and believe myths, they are free to do so but not on a program that is factual science.
 

Angelika R. (144)
Saturday March 22, 2014, 3:28 pm
Anti-science bills, i see, ..Wyoming, Oklahoma..any guesses what's next? Like I said on the other thread, war on education creates more war.
 

Virgene L. (17)
Saturday March 22, 2014, 4:36 pm
Mr. Degrasse-Tyson comments didn't cover the origin of the "big bang" as in where did THAT come from.
Many scientists believe in evolution and the big bang, but know there has to be source out there. We creative/evolutions believe in our Creator (God) and rejoice in the completeness of allowing species to evolve according to their surroundings! (How creative is THAT! How can anyone look at the beauty and complexity of our world, at the subtleness of design of structures and not believe in God? We, as humans, are trying to design things based on what we see in other life--and come no where near those abilities and complexities!
 

Barbara K. (75)
Saturday March 22, 2014, 4:39 pm
This is a science show, why should they give equal air time to the anti-science crowd? Thanks, my friend.
 

Dave C. (227)
Saturday March 22, 2014, 6:18 pm
denying scientific facts won't make them go away.......Mr. DeGrasse is creating a science show...there are plenty of "faith" shows and networks preaching their opinions that these crazies can go on.....Mr. DeGrasse is talking fact......
 

JL A. (276)
Saturday March 22, 2014, 7:10 pm
I've yet to see creationists present material that meets a generally accepted definition of science.
 

Kit B. (276)
Saturday March 22, 2014, 8:00 pm

Scientists do not begin a sentence with "I believe in....." Science unlike pseudoscience, does not, can not rely on faith or belief systems. Science is ever growing and changing. It must be so as we learn new information that will lead us to the next step of more information. I have a chart on my profile page that delineates some of the differences between science and pseudoscience. Science is, a willingness to change with new evidence, ruthless peer review, must take account of all new discoveries, invites criticism, must have verifiable results, limits usefulness as each discovery may radically change the older one, requires careful and exact measurements. Pseudoscience is, well nothing more than a hunch or a feeling that something could be or should be, but offers no evidence and rejects peer review. I structure my own thoughts on most topics around solid fact, not a wish or a hope.

There are some scientists that have religious beliefs, the good ones know that when they are in the lab, religion stays at the threshold of the door. Being a scientists does not preclude having belief systems, not all scientists are atheist however, even the priests that work at CERN leave their beliefs at the door. It is is absolutely necessary to keep an open mind about possibilities when exploring any scientific venture.

That being said, it would not make for good solid science to include the radical belief systems of creationism in a program dedicated to pursuit of educating the public about science. Science also has no problem in saying "I don't know". Because there are things we do not know. Humans want a beginning and ending to every story, wrapped up in a package presented with a bow, science does not strive to have all answers, only those available today.


 

DaleLovesOttawa O. (192)
Saturday March 22, 2014, 8:46 pm
JL A, isn't that the truth.

"Creationists aren’t even on the radar screen."

Why would they be when scientific facts are being discussed.
 

pam w. (191)
Saturday March 22, 2014, 9:52 pm
Anyone want to speculate as to potential AWAKENINGS among the idiots who don't accept that "SATANIC SCIENCE?"
 

Vicky P. (466)
Saturday March 22, 2014, 10:15 pm
good, he shouldn't give them time..
 

Regan Copple (16)
Sunday March 23, 2014, 12:13 am
As a fellow physicist, I say good for Neil Degrasse-Tyson, I hope he gives them exactly bupkiss.

Virgene, you could turn that same argument around on the creationists & say where did your god come from? It takes faith to believe that someone just did it, it takes science to find out how & why. That's the important part, so your comment is very derivative of what we've heard come from the god-botherers before, & I've got to say, it's pretty lame.
 

Alan Lambert (97)
Sunday March 23, 2014, 1:35 am
The God on a stick crowd is WAY wrong on this...
 

Nancy M. (202)
Sunday March 23, 2014, 10:43 am
Just the facts.... (well, and the interpretation based on data)
 

Dandelion G. (384)
Sunday March 23, 2014, 1:16 pm
We just covered this in our church today...... I wish I could place his whole talk on here.
About This Sunday
03-23-2014
Topic: “Creationism”
Speaker: Dr. Robert Tucker
Basically, one can have their belief there is God but what one shouldn't do is deny Science.
 

Terry King (109)
Sunday March 23, 2014, 2:58 pm
The Christian Broadcast Network should give Science equal time on their network!
 

Dandelion G. (384)
Sunday March 23, 2014, 3:35 pm
Good one Terry. The Church I attend is Unitarian Universalist and we are just a small group so we rent space in a building. When the other "church" found out we were also renting in the building they would not renew their lease as "we" were there. To the credit of the Church that owns the building they told the other one's "sorry to see you leave."

A couple of the reasons they mentioned why they couldn't share the same roof with us is we allowed gay people to sit with us, we didn't teach Creationism, and we didn't expect our members to believe anything in particular. We follow good manners - respect to others and allow each person to Walk a path of their own that speaks from their Heart. Love and Kindness is presented in big doses towards each other and anyone walking into the door.....I guess that wasn't "churchy" enough to share the same roof at different times.

 

Yvonne White (233)
Sunday March 23, 2014, 4:18 pm
You can't "scientifically balance" something that cannot be scientifically Proven to begin with.
Sorry I can't send more stars Terry!!! Right on Dandelion!
 

Kit B. (276)
Sunday March 23, 2014, 4:33 pm

“Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they're sure trying to do so, it's going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can't and won't compromise. I know, I've tried to deal with them.”

― Barry M. Goldwater
 

Freya H. (313)
Sunday March 23, 2014, 5:05 pm
Tyson isn't giving Creationism airtime for the same reason he isn't giving phlogiston, phrenology, spontaneous generation, alchemy, bodily humors, the geocentric universe, etc. airtime.
 

Bryan S. (105)
Sunday March 23, 2014, 6:41 pm
You know, because religions have always given time and consideration to other belief systems... LOL.

Even if one has religious beliefs or believes there are ultimate limitations in the scientific method, that is not a valid argument to inject belief/faith into the scientific process, and especially not into a program specifically meant to explore scientific findings. I guess let 'em keep coming up with silly arguments when their dogma is rejected.
 

Lois Jordan (58)
Sunday March 23, 2014, 6:46 pm
Oh, how I laughed when I read the article's title! Then, I had to make sure it wasn't from Andy Borowitz or The Onion......Yes, I've seen a couple of these complaints in the past couple weeks....since Cosmos began airing, but they are so ridiculous. I've heard that as the majority gets stronger in the media....with putting out scientific facts and showing the absolute idiocy of anything else, fundamentalists become squeakier wheels and seem to be loudly all over the place. Their last dying breaths.....I hope.
 

Mario Velarde (1)
Sunday March 23, 2014, 7:24 pm
This is just too funny. Yes because saying something happened and proving that it did happen are somehow equal in every way.
 

Hartson Doak (33)
Sunday March 23, 2014, 7:39 pm
This is science based program. Not a superstition based program. Or should I say a stupidstion?
 

Deb E. (63)
Sunday March 23, 2014, 11:43 pm
It is a science show, so why should it say anything about creationism? Science is science. Although, some science is still based on theory because there just isn't any way to prove what actually happened billions of years ago beyond any doubt. One thing this show said about evolution was incorrect. Evolution isn't "random mutations that the environment either supports or throws out". The environment is what causes mutations. It is called adaptation to the environment and is the very premise of evolution. So, not everything in the show is concrete proven science, but the show really shouldn't be talking about creationism. I can't believe how people get all riled up like that about a TV show.
 

Past Member (0)
Monday March 24, 2014, 1:26 am
Give creationists time, just cut off their air.:) De create them :P)
 

Michael Kirkby (86)
Monday March 24, 2014, 9:37 am
This is a show about science and not some pie in the sky crackpot theory.
 

Beverly M. (90)
Monday March 24, 2014, 11:26 am
Absolutely love the show, haven't missed it yet, and like you said Kit the show is about science. There is scientific backing of the big bang theory and climate change, not the theory of creationism or that the earth is actually flat.
 

Robert B. (58)
Tuesday March 25, 2014, 7:40 pm
I'm really upset that "Cosmos" doesn't address the story of the earth resting on the back of a giant turtle. And what about the tooth fairy? :)
 

Terry H. (13)
Saturday March 29, 2014, 3:07 am
I think that's a really big presumption on the part of creationists there...
 

Mitchell D. (132)
Saturday March 29, 2014, 7:08 pm
Creationist Faulkner's statement that there are "So many scientists who simply do not accept Darwinian evolution," seems like a mis-statement of fact to me.
Kit, that is one heel of a quote!!

Sorry I got to this so late, can't be everywhere...been tickling the belly of that last turtle, you know, the one on the bottom?
 

Janis K. (109)
Tuesday April 1, 2014, 1:46 pm
Creationists be damned (lol) this awesome show is about Science! Love Neil DeGrasse Tyson!
 
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