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10th International Animal Rights Gatherings in Austria - 21-24 August Vienna


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Joanna
- 3325 days ago - ar2008.info
recently Austrian animal activists have been jailed as suspected of belonging to a criminal organisation - However, after 4 weeks of keeping these people in custody no charges have been made against them !! - it's great that the event will be there



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Hans L (958)
Monday June 16, 2008, 9:19 am
Animal rights activists also known as terrorists in Austria from all over Europe gathering in Puchberg am Schneeberg!
That will be a very interesting meeting i think that Cobra and other special police units maybe even the military will operate as if the G8 is meeting in Puchberg! I check the news in Austria every day but you dont read anyhting about the activists nothing the government has more urgent problems and the people are watching and enjoying the EURO 2008!
 

Karen M (176)
Monday June 16, 2008, 9:21 am
I have been following this. I think this is a huge case against animal activists that must be dealt with now. It could set an example to other nations as to how to deal with their annoying animal welfare activists. I'm worried about the treatment of those four currently held.
 

Karen M (176)
Monday June 16, 2008, 9:27 am
I hope this gathering will find something to assist the situation and those being held.
I also hope this event will not be interfered with, as the world will see it. I'm concerned that the Austrian government's actions of late may not be intended to be isolated incidents.
 

RIVER F (98)
Monday June 16, 2008, 9:27 am
SCARRY WHEN AR'S R VIEWED AS CRIMINALS..WAT THE HECK??? THX JOANNA, RIV.
 

Hans L (958)
Monday June 16, 2008, 9:31 am
All ten activists will be free by then and the presss will be very interested to hear the real story! No evidence at all just a industry accusing people who fight for animals all of you who sign petitions for animal rights can be caged like these 10 people. Austria is the best nation for animals thats for sure since 2004...and that is the reason why these activists are in prison they have been to sucsessful!
 

Joanna D (216)
Monday June 16, 2008, 9:33 am
The interesting fact is that many (maybe all) of animal activists sitting at prisons are the people involved in actions against big companies...

 

Hans L (958)
Monday June 16, 2008, 9:35 am
Not only criminals, terrorists! Its like guantanamo...rediculous and a shame for Austria!
 

Joanna D (216)
Monday June 16, 2008, 9:41 am
Hans don't be so sure that they will be free, and people don't forget it's not only Austria:
11 June, United Kingdom:
Serious Implications for Freedom of the Net and Civil Rights as Activist Jailed for 4 ½ Years

For immediate release

Following a lengthy police investigation and an 18-week trial costing over £4.5 million, the operator of a website criticising animal testing company Sequani, has been jailed for four and a half years for organising a legal protest.

In an unprecedented case, the press were barred from reporting the trial, witnesses were bussed into the court and mobile phones were even confiscated from the public before they entered the gallery and the jury. The atmosphere was more akin to a terrorist trial than one relating to non-violent protest, which made the charges appear far more sinister than they in fact were. The choice of judge was also considered highly questionable considering he is a keen hunter.

Sean Kirtley was found guilty under Section 145 of the SOCPA law for “Interfering with the contractual relationships of a Laboratory” for allegedly organising protests at Sequani Limited and associated business associates. Police say disorder took place on a occasions during protests and claim as the organiser that Sean is responsible for any criminality that takes place.

The police claimed that during the protests individuals, not Kirtley, had been verbally abusive to staff members and that they had caused them to feel harassed. However, no-one was arrested or charged with such an offence, and prosecution witnesses testified that Kirtley had on most occasions been silent and peaceful throughout protests. Whilst Kirtley contends he did not organise protests at Sequani or its suppliers, he operated a website which effectively campaigned against the company. In a move that will alarm internet publishers and bloggers, posting details of the legal protests and information about Sequani and suppliers was considered key evidence that he was the campaign organiser.

As the supposed organiser of the legal protest, Kirtley has therefore been convicted because of supposed actions by phantom third parties that Sean had conspired with or as the law states “persons unknown”. No evidence was used in the trial that proved he had engaged in anti social behaviour on demonstrations, criminal damage or any other illegal activity.

Kirtley will now be incarcerated for far longer than most dangerous criminals. It appears that after such an expensive and extensive investigation, the CPS needed a conviction to justify such a huge expense of public money. Even then, the sentence passed was unusually severe. Child abusers, rapists and violent criminals are often given far lower sentences for far more serious crimes. In the same week, in two other high-profile cases, a man was given a similar sentence for causing the violent death of his baby son, and two brothers were jailed for only two years for committing serious assault that permanently blinded their victim.

The five other defendants were found not guilty in the, yet the Judge refused to award significant travel costs to them, totalling many thousands of pounds. Even though Pauline Burgess was found not guilty, she was bound over by Judge Ross who prohibited her from joining in the legal protests against the company for a year, and threatened her with a £1000 fine on any occasion that she does.

Aside from the unbelievable sentence, the trial has serious implications for the freedom of the internet and civil liberties in this country.

A precedent has now been set that simply publishing details or sharing information about a protest can be used as evidence that the publisher is the organiser of the event. Worse still, someone can be locked up under SOCPA for an extended period of time for simply organising a legal protest in which, according to hearsay, someone else committed an offence.

Kirtley will be lodging an appeal. Kirtley’s defence lawyer said: “This case sadly goes to show that animal rights campaigners have been singled out and ordinary criminal law principles have been contorted simply because, in the Government’s eyes, powerful commercial interests, founded on animal experimentation, are at risk from effective, open and popular protests.”

We urge the press to cover the case because this is not just an issue of an animal rights protester, whose views we understand many members of the media may not share. But as Voltaire once said: “I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it”. We hope that this proves the case today.

Most importantly, the case has serious repercussions on the freedom of publishing protest information on the net and the right to protest peacefully, particularly where commercial interests are concerned.

It is also extremely relevant in the light of upcoming “terror legislation” because it demonstrates mission creep - how the SOCPA law, enacted under the pretext of protecting the public from terrorists, is now being used to silence non-violent protesters.
more info: http://westernanimalrights.wordpress.com/2008/06/11/warn-press-release-serious-implications-for-freedom-of-the-net-and-civil-rights-as-activist-jailed-for-4-%c2%bd-years/
 

Joanna D (216)
Monday June 16, 2008, 9:44 am
and not only Austria - I tried to add link but my comment dissapeared so:
11 June, United Kindgom
Serious Implications for Freedom of the Net and Civil Rights as Activist Jailed for 4 ½ Years

For immediate release

Following a lengthy police investigation and an 18-week trial costing over £4.5 million, the operator of a website criticising animal testing company Sequani, has been jailed for four and a half years for organising a legal protest.

In an unprecedented case, the press were barred from reporting the trial, witnesses were bussed into the court and mobile phones were even confiscated from the public before they entered the gallery and the jury. The atmosphere was more akin to a terrorist trial than one relating to non-violent protest, which made the charges appear far more sinister than they in fact were. The choice of judge was also considered highly questionable considering he is a keen hunter.

Sean Kirtley was found guilty under Section 145 of the SOCPA law for “Interfering with the contractual relationships of a Laboratory” for allegedly organising protests at Sequani Limited and associated business associates. Police say disorder took place on a occasions during protests and claim as the organiser that Sean is responsible for any criminality that takes place.

The police claimed that during the protests individuals, not Kirtley, had been verbally abusive to staff members and that they had caused them to feel harassed. However, no-one was arrested or charged with such an offence, and prosecution witnesses testified that Kirtley had on most occasions been silent and peaceful throughout protests. Whilst Kirtley contends he did not organise protests at Sequani or its suppliers, he operated a website which effectively campaigned against the company. In a move that will alarm internet publishers and bloggers, posting details of the legal protests and information about Sequani and suppliers was considered key evidence that he was the campaign organiser.

As the supposed organiser of the legal protest, Kirtley has therefore been convicted because of supposed actions by phantom third parties that Sean had conspired with or as the law states “persons unknown”. No evidence was used in the trial that proved he had engaged in anti social behaviour on demonstrations, criminal damage or any other illegal activity.

Kirtley will now be incarcerated for far longer than most dangerous criminals. It appears that after such an expensive and extensive investigation, the CPS needed a conviction to justify such a huge expense of public money. Even then, the sentence passed was unusually severe. Child abusers, rapists and violent criminals are often given far lower sentences for far more serious crimes. In the same week, in two other high-profile cases, a man was given a similar sentence for causing the violent death of his baby son, and two brothers were jailed for only two years for committing serious assault that permanently blinded their victim.

The five other defendants were found not guilty in the, yet the Judge refused to award significant travel costs to them, totalling many thousands of pounds. Even though Pauline Burgess was found not guilty, she was bound over by Judge Ross who prohibited her from joining in the legal protests against the company for a year, and threatened her with a £1000 fine on any occasion that she does.

Aside from the unbelievable sentence, the trial has serious implications for the freedom of the internet and civil liberties in this country.

A precedent has now been set that simply publishing details or sharing information about a protest can be used as evidence that the publisher is the organiser of the event. Worse still, someone can be locked up under SOCPA for an extended period of time for simply organising a legal protest in which, according to hearsay, someone else committed an offence.

Kirtley will be lodging an appeal. Kirtley’s defence lawyer said: “This case sadly goes to show that animal rights campaigners have been singled out and ordinary criminal law principles have been contorted simply because, in the Government’s eyes, powerful commercial interests, founded on animal experimentation, are at risk from effective, open and popular protests.”

We urge the press to cover the case because this is not just an issue of an animal rights protester, whose views we understand many members of the media may not share. But as Voltaire once said: “I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it”. We hope that this proves the case today.

Most importantly, the case has serious repercussions on the freedom of publishing protest information on the net and the right to protest peacefully, particularly where commercial interests are concerned.

It is also extremely relevant in the light of upcoming “terror legislation” because it demonstrates mission creep - how the SOCPA law, enacted under the pretext of protecting the public from terrorists, is now being used to silence non-violent protesters.
 

Joanna D (216)
Monday June 16, 2008, 9:45 am
wow!!!
 

Hans L (958)
Monday June 16, 2008, 9:53 am
I am sure that with the right amount of attention they will be free! I know the green Party especially Peter Pilz! And i can assure you that this could kill the government! Austria is not the USA! Vienna is not GUANTANAMO!
 

Sheila G (267)
Monday June 16, 2008, 10:06 am
terrorists, it almost makes you laugh, doesn't it? aren't we considered to be collaborators just for standing firmly in support of these men and women? what was it Kathy C had posted in another blog, Cheyney said he has "a place for people like you", was it a detention camp? looks like we will have great company. :]
but I am afraid every rule will stand against the members of any group prostesting the abuse of animals.
we have to support our freedom fighters, support our A.L.F.!
 

Past Member (0)
Monday June 16, 2008, 11:34 am
If you look at the role that the green party is playing in the press work for these activists you can be sure that they will take care of this! Its crazy that they are still in prison! Only if they are forgotten they will not be free! Do we forget them? No we dont! We fight for them we spread the news!
 

Dusty K (1339)
Monday June 16, 2008, 12:05 pm
If they are freed by the time this International AR gathering rolls around.....it may get very interesting. We all know that BIG companies are behind the majority of animal abuse and those that fight against them, of course, damage not only their reputation but those of the suppliers. Cut off the money, they cannot operate. You can bet they will use whatever means they can to stop the AR activists from speaking the truth. And who are the terrorists? hmmmmmmm???? Thanks Joanna.....will be watching this one as well
 

Alf I (246)
Monday June 16, 2008, 12:33 pm
Yes Joanna thanx. I'm not as optimistic as Hans on this one. I think the reason they are holding them is BECAUSE of the gathering. They will keep them or as long as it takes to destroy it. It will not stop AR gatherings though and other countries are being looked at now.
I just got back from the UK gathering and as usual the police made themselves a pain, searching all vehicles and even photographing people at the train station. We must not be intimidated into giving up. This shows the powerful force we are becoming and that the 'authorities' are afraid.
I think it is very plain who the real terrorists here are.....
 

Joanna D (216)
Monday June 16, 2008, 3:01 pm
I actually thought about the same Alf, I forgot about the Gathering and when I found it in my dairy yesterday...
 

Morgan Griffith (225)
Monday June 16, 2008, 8:56 pm
Yeah, I thought what a coincidence, police go on a tear just before an important gathering? Me thinks their ability to get out of jail until just after the gathering is in serious jeopardy. My opinion of those who did this to these committed AR's--the BASTARDS. I won't stop,not now, not later. Thanks for keeping up on this. Has anyone from Amnesty International checked in on this? If not they certainly should.
 

Hans L (958)
Monday June 16, 2008, 11:37 pm
Its simple :

Vienna, 16th June 2008
Martin Balluch Needs Your Help!
Martin writes from his cell:

Unbelievable but true: Today I have been a prisoner of the State Prosecution for exactly 3 weeks, and not only as an innocent person, but also without even any suspicion against me.

Last Friday was the first time that a judge looked at my case. I was absolutely sure that after this hearing I would be released, but my trust in our legal system was sadly misplaced. The judge at my hearing had only taken one sided information from the Public Prosecution and arrived at the hearing already firm in the decision to extend the remand for the maximum period of a further four weeks. According to a new paragraph in the law § 176 (4) I had a right to reply to this decision and address the court at the hearing. However, as I began to speak, it was clear that the judge was not listening and after I had spoken a few words, she ordered me to stop talking. As a result of this unlawful proceeding, I was placed once again in remand custody.

How is such treatment possible in a state under the rule of law? The Public Prosecution use this argument: There is some animal rights related criminal activity in Austria, this is not in dispute. However, this is the case in all countries though out the world, where people care about the welfare of animals. The amount of animal suffering and the frustration at being helpless to do anything about this leads some to such acts out of desperation. However, it is precisely because organisations, such as VGT and others have achieved so many reforms here that, compared to international levels, Austria has a very low animal related criminal activity rate. And that, even though the Public Prosecution includes such actions as filming (note: filming, not damage to property) in pig factory farms and the early release of pheasants intended for shooting to their list of illegal activities.

The VGT and I are well known and very active here in Austria in terms of animal welfare. The Public Prosecution Service now conclude from this that therefore, I and the VGT must have something to do with Austrian animal rights related criminal activities. But, amazingly enough, in addition to this the Public Prosecution Service is of the opinion that there exists the suspicion that I, as leader of an imaginary criminal organisation, am responsible for ALL animal related criminal activities that have ever taken place in Austria! Yes, you heard correctly: Without exception, every unlawful act to do with animal rights in Austria could have been committed through me. And in order to establish this “suspicion“, say the Public Prosecution Service, I must remain on remand.

On the other hand there are the police files that document how I and the VGT have been under police surveillance for years; my mobile has been tapped, every e-mail has been read and I have been continuously followed. That the results of these enormous efforts have resulted in not even the slightest shred of suspicion to connect me to any punishable offence should put me above any suspicion. This would be the case if things were being done by the book, but somehow it doesn’t seem as if anything is being done by the book.

It is for this reason that I am on hunger strike and have been now for three weeks. A very long time to go without anything to eat. But, there are many historic examples of people, who managed to expose the brutality of state violence through going on hunger strike. On my thirteenth day without food I was transferred to the prison hospital wing. Two days later I was unable to leave my bed. On day sixteen I had a blackout and lost consciousness. Because of my remand hearing on the seventeenth day I ate a small amount in order to be able to attend. I wanted to make a statement in court and I needed a clear head to do this. But, since the evening of that day I have resumed my hunger strike. I am once again in the prison hospital wing and can see my strength leaving me. I have lost 20 kilos and am taking medication for stomach and muscle cramps. I feel as if I am in a world of cotton wool. But, I am receiving so much support from outside: Prof. Dr Klaus Petrus from Bern University in Switzerland and Prof. Dr Peter Singer from Princeton University in the USA have both made it clear to the authorities that I am anything but a criminal. I have written books about animal protection with both these people. In these books I have stressed how important it is to achieve good animal welfare laws and that any kind of criminal offence is counter productive. My exact words in one of the books are “No realistic level of guerrilla attacks of the kind carried out by the Animal Liberation Front could have hurt the battery farming industry as much as the new Austrian law does. I hope that the kind of campaigns favoured by people in the movement are not determined by what is “cool” and makes you feel better, but, rather, by what is most effective in achieving animal rights. A law banning a whole industry is by far more effective that anything else the animal movement could do“.

Amnesty International has issued a public statement criticizing the Austrian authorities’ dealings with regard to my case. This is the first time that the law; § 278a StGB, introduced in 2002 and aimed at tackling terrorism and Mafia groups, has been used against an NGO and against social activism, although the law was not intended for this use. AI also criticises the fully inappropriate manner in which the police carried out the house searches, and that the confiscation of NGO office equipment has made the completely legal work of the association impossible.

It is worthy of mention that the Public Prosecution Service is obviously supplying certain media with incorrect information in order to justify their actions and to thereby also damage my reputation and that of the VGT. This is also highly questionable behaviour and points to what is actually going on here: namely the intention to damage and silence one of the most successful animal protection organisations. The English newspaper “The Guardian” for example, was aware of this when an article from 5th June drew attention the connection between this police action and the important roll I, and VGT have played in achieving animal welfare reforms that count as being the best in the world.

How will this continue? I don’t know. But, I appeal to you to remain strong in your solidarity. I am convinced that this will not lead to a trial and won’t even come to a concrete charge. Our joint task right now is to get the authorities to release us from remand. When we have achieved that we can begin to repair the damage that has been done to the VGT and make it the effective and successful association it was before this random act of state violence.

DDr. Martin Balluch, Prison Hospital Josefstadt, Vienna, Austria, Zelle 25/04

Read the Guardian article: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/jun/05/animalwelfare.austria
 

Hans L (958)
Monday June 16, 2008, 11:43 pm
Interesting if you visit the VGT site in Austria i now receive this message the first time this happens today...some kind of spyware?
Danger: AVG Search-Shield has detected active threats on this page and has blocked access for your protection. ...

The best help for the activists is the green party thats for sure!

Weinzinger about the animal protectionists: “Scandalous remand in custody continues further”

Green Party demand the release of the activists

Vienna (OTS) – The human rights speaker of The Austrian Green Party, Brigid Weinzinger, protested against the extension of the remand in custody of three animal protectionists today. “To hold people in custody for two weeks without specific evidence and without charging them is a scandal pure and simple.” Weinzinger demanded the immediate release of the activists. “As has been the case, still nothing has been raised that would be grounds for remanding them in custody. Their fundamental right to fair trial, to having an opportunity to respond to charges, and to being able to defend themselves – all of these rights are being massively violated,” Weinzinger said.

“The massive judicial and police actions against the animal protectionists have been excessive, illegal and arbitrary from the very beginning. It is utterly absurd to construct the case that simply because someone has worked for years for the cause of animal protection or for an animal protection organization there is a significant risk that they will perpetrate a criminal offence, and then use this contention as grounds for continuing to remand them in custody.” Additionally, according to Weinzinger, it is absolutely unjustifiable to apply Paragraph 278a of the Austrian Criminal Code to these cases: this paragraph was adopted to enable the authorities to pursue Mafia-like organizations (smuggling of humans, illegal dealing in weapons, counterfeiting, or drug rings). This statutory definition of the offence is certainly not met.

Contact:
The Green Party,
Tel.: +43-(0)1-40110-6697 presse@gruene.at
 

Hans L (958)
Tuesday June 17, 2008, 12:17 am
And look at this list of statements and organisations that speak up!
Even if all Austrian citizens would be silent and look away these activists would still be free because of the international attention to this case!

http://antirep2008.lnxnt.org/?page_id=9

Statements

* Elfriede Jelinek, Schriftstellerin
“Ich finde derartig brutale Aktionen gegen nichtsahnende Menschen skandalös. Straftaten gehören geahndet, aber dieser Einsatz gegen Tierschützer scheint jedes Maß zu sprengen. Jeder Bürger hat das Recht, aktiv für etwas einzutreten oder zu demonstrieren. Für Tierrechte einzustehen ist besonders wichtig, weil Tiere ja nicht für sich selber einstehen können. Also müssen es die Menschen für sie tun. Tiere sind, wie alle Schutzlosen, auf diesen Schutz angewiesen. Solche martialischen bewaffneten Einsätze sind ein Schlag gegen alle Arten von Bürgerrechtsbewegungungen und müssen scharf zurückgewiesen werden.“

* Hubert Kramer, Regisseur
“Es ist erschütternd mit welchen polizeilichen Gewaltmaßnahmen und in welchem Ausmaß Gruppen der Zivilgesellschaft, die sich gegen Tierquälerei und Tiermord engagieren, mißhandelt werden.

* Maria Vassilakou, Klubobfrau der Wiener Grünen
“Das Vorgehen der Polizei gegen TierrechtsaktivistInnen in den letzten Tagen bedarf öffentlicher Beachtung und breitem Einspruch. Zehn AktivistInnen wurden am 21. Mai frühmorgens aus ihren Betten gerissen, ihre Wohnungen durch Hausdurchsuchungen verwüstet und anschließend über sie Untersuchungshaft verhängt. Die Begründung für die Inhaftierung (”Verdunkelungsgefahr” wegen des verschlüsselns von Emails bzw.”Tatbegehungsgefahr” wegen einer Reihe nicht aufgeklärter Delikte im Zeitraum 1997-2008) werden dabei nur unzureichend belegt. Vorgeworfen wird den AktivistInnen eine nicht näher belegte Mitgliedschaft in einer Kriminellen Organisation nach Paragraph 278a.
Ich protestiere gegen diese unverhältnismäßige Vorgangsweise und haben gegen diesen Angriff auf rechtsstaaliche Standards schwere Bedenken.
Ich fordere deshalb
* die sofortige Freilassung aller Inhaftierten, die auf Grund nicht konkreter Anschuldigungen in U-Haft sitzen;
* die sofortige Überarbeitung des §278a. Dieser darf nicht als Gummiparagraph für die Kriminalisierung von politischen AktivistInnen eingesetzt werden!
* die sofortige Überprüfung der betreffenden Einsätze der Polizei, speziell aber Verfassungsschutz, Cobra und WEGA, auf Rechtmäßigkeit;
* die sofortige Aufklärung der politischen Hintergründe in den zuständigen Ministerien für diese offensichtlich lange vorher geplante Kriminalisierungs-Kampagne gegen politisch aktive Menschen und Gruppen.
Ich spreche mich entschieden gegen den Versuch der Kriminalisierung von sozialen Bewegungen aus.“

Organisationen (alphabetisch)
o Amnesty International Österreich: Stellungnahme zur Festnahme von zehn Tierschützern am 21. Mai 2008
o Ernst-Kirchweger-Haus (EKH) Soligruppe: Freiheit für die Gefangenen der Tierrechtsbewegung!!
o EuroMayDay Wien: Repression gegen TierrechtsaktivistInnen in Österreich
o Grüne & Alternative StudentInnen (GRAS): Mit Rammbock gegen Tierschutz
o Grüne Jugend Niederösterreich: Solidarität mit TierschützerInnen
o Grüner Parlamentsklub: Weinzinger: Noch immer keine konkreten Anklagepunkte gegen verhaftetete TierschützerInnen / Weinzinger: Platter bleibt Erklärung zu Tierschützer-Verhaftungen schuldig
o Die Grünen: Grüne fordern Aufklärung nach Verhaftungen von TierschützerInnen
o KPÖ (Tirol): Die KPÖ verurteilt die repressiven Maßnahmen gegen TierschützerInnen
o Liga der Sozialistischen Revolution (LSR): Freiheit für die politischen Gefangenen der Tierrechtsbewegung!
o Orange 94.0: Vorsicht! Kriminelle Organisation!
o Österreichische HoschülerInnenschaft Uni Wien (ÖH Uni Wien): Solidarität mit Betroffenen von staatlicher RepressionUtl.: Auf dem Weg zum Polizeistaat?
o Revolutionär Sozialistische Organisation (RSO): Bedroht werden TierrechtsaktivistInnen, gemeint sind wir alle!
o Die Tier WeGe - Menschenverein für Tierrechte: petra kulmer’s “offener brief” zu den durchsuchungen und verhaftungen vieler tierschützerinnen
o Verband Österreichischer Tierschutzorganisationen: TierschützerInnen wie Schwerverbrecher behandelt
o Verein gegen Tierfabriken (VGT): Unfassbare Polizei-Attacke gegen den Tierschutz / Aktuelle Situation im Fall rund um den Polizeiwillkürakt gegen den Tierschutz
o Vier Pfoten: Stellungnahme zur Verhaftung von Mitgliedern von Tierschutz- und Tierrechtsorganisationen
 

Past Member (0)
Tuesday June 17, 2008, 1:38 am
eagleeyed, and waiting what will be shown on dutch tv, as they seem to brush everything under the carpet. isn't it so that not governments but multinationals run the countries, so is the broacasting run by multinationals. Keep people happy with bubblegum, vodka, bibble whatever it takes, keep them stupid. If any harm comes to the austrian aa'sts, they become martyrs and saints, multinationals not really interested in that, or are they looking for worldwide free advertising space. Hidden agenda's galore, way to go.
 

Past Member (0)
Tuesday June 17, 2008, 1:39 am
fighting for animal rights and multinational makes me a terrorist and anarchist????????, where is my wodka, need a drink
 

Past Member (0)
Tuesday June 17, 2008, 1:41 am
correction fighting for animal rights and against multinationals, who brewed this Wodka, where is the rehab centre
 

Hans L (958)
Tuesday June 17, 2008, 5:11 am
In no uncertain terms Dr Petrovic from the Austrian Green Party once more voices her outrage at the events of the last three weeks concerning the imprisoned animal protestionists.
"Historical comparisons point clearly to the fact that the Animal Rights Movement is obviously so successful that all imaginable obstacles and foul play are being called upon in order that the powers that be and their profitable businesses based on animal suffering can win a bit more time“.
 

Hans L (958)
Tuesday June 17, 2008, 6:21 am
http://www.vgt.at/index_en.php more about the actions and the situation of the AR activists!
 

Teresa Soares (82)
Tuesday June 17, 2008, 6:27 am
Living in Portugal, I would wish a good gatherings with activists working in this important issue. Europe has a déficit of culture in this domain. Portugal, a large déficit in Animal Rights culture!
 

Hans L (958)
Tuesday June 17, 2008, 10:12 am
Maria thats the reason why these people in Austria are in PRISON! Austria is leading since 2004 when it comes to animal rights Holland is also leading.
But i dont know how the rest of Europe will deal with this extreme reaction by the Austrian government...this is just to frighten all the people....
This is intimidation nothing else!
 

Joanna D (216)
Tuesday June 17, 2008, 11:22 am
I hope it's not frighten the people
I know that some AR activists are doing their job anonymously. The site against Sequani had been closed the new site is made in the way to protect the people from "police" observation but...
I think there is a little awarenees of animal testing especially - people simply don't know what's going on - why the demos/protests and that's why they see only a group of noisy people doing a mess in a quiet town ...
It seems to be rather issue omitted by the biggest orgs - stay against big companies testing on animals. The groups who are doing this are small orgs - easier target for police... I suppose also that they have no money for advocates and because they are not popular like let say WWF, WSPA etc. it's difficult to draw the attention of media and public to their case...
 

Hans L (958)
Tuesday June 17, 2008, 11:44 am
Dear Joanna!
I am against all large organisations the WWF i realy hate them IFAW the same but we need professional help people like Peter Pilz and Madeleine Petrovic from the green party in Austria are a blessing for the activists not only in
Austria they will fight for the rights! And it is not difficult to attract the attention of the media! You just need the right people!
I think animal advocacy will be one of the most important groups at the system that will be build for the real activists!
We must create awareness and spread the message...i guess that 80% of the Austrian people dont know about the activists! Thats insane the media lie and are silenced by the animal industry lobby!
 

Past Member (0)
Tuesday June 17, 2008, 1:19 pm
there is me, oldie again, have been at it for 40 years, even the bodyshop sold herself to lóreal, Hans you are 10 years younger then i am, keep on fighting, my fight is half a century, and still got nowhere, must keep at it all time
 

Past Member (0)
Tuesday June 17, 2008, 1:36 pm
you can discuss all you want regarding politics, it is a farce, and as long as you educate your children to work hard to achieve what daddy achieved or mum, you will be running around in circles.
you, all of us, will have to make up our minds once and for all.
this world is not for humans only, you are indepted to animals, all the way. Don't you forget what animals are for us. Imagine a world without animals, just us, scary ain't it. no bird songs, no bees for honey, no dogs to greet you, imagine how it would be, no insects or bacteria to clean up the mess we leave behiod, we are one, and better not forget it.
Apes we are, with no common sense, just accidents, that is what we are, stupid accidents, hysterical accidents, so sorry to say. and ruining the planet, by accident, MERCEY
 

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Tuesday June 17, 2008, 1:55 pm
s;eep well, ttmrw talk again, love, hilke
 
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