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What Are The Supremes Hiding?


Society & Culture  (tags: death penalty, Supreme Court, lethal injection, secrecy )

RC
- 2476 days ago - truthout.org
A look at the death-penalty lethal injection case before the US Supreme Court, with defense attorneys claiimng that the justices are withholding information crucial to their arguments. Do you think the Court is right to do so?



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RC deWinter (418)
Wednesday January 9, 2008, 6:25 am
I am not sure how attorneys can build a credible case if they cannot access vital information regarding execution methods, botched executions and other related information. I oppose the death penalty anyway - but if this country MUST impose it, there has to be a better way to carry it out. When pets are put down humanely, they simply "go to sleep." We do not afford this option to the people we kill. Our current drug cocktail IS cruel and unusual punihsment, IMHO.
 

Carol W. (119)
Wednesday January 9, 2008, 7:08 am

We need a Dr. Kervocian School of Compassion.

What, no criteria?
How surprising.
 

. (0)
Wednesday January 9, 2008, 7:14 am
This is my objection to serving on juries which I have been called to do several times and have been excused due to my belief that I cannot give a fair decision knowing that I may very well not be given all the evidence when coming to my conclusion. I refuse to make a decision that affects the fate of another human when I do not have all the facts. It is unfair to them and unfair to me to be asked to do so. Too many times criminals are allowed to go free just as innocent people are punished because crucial evidence is withheld. How is this considered justice! In my estimation, it is not.
Noted with thanks, Cate.
 

Carolyn T. (234)
Wednesday January 9, 2008, 8:39 am
Noted. I concur with your commments completely, Cate, Carol and Gail. We supposedly are against the use of "cruel and unusual punishment." I am steadfastly opposed to the taking of life, whether one acts individually or collectively. But if the system insists this be in place--it does not say the person must lose his life painfully. Thank you for bringing this submission to us, Cate.
 

Pastor Tim Redfern (581)
Wednesday January 9, 2008, 11:18 am
Clements also asked Annette Viator, former chief counsel for the prison system, what went into developing the state's execution schema. Her reply: "The only thing that mattered was that the guy ended up dead."

The definition of the death penalty:
The government killing people who kill
people in order to demonstrate that
killing people is wrong.
It is the WORST kind of double standard!
The U.S. is one of only 4 or 5 other countries
that continues to kill it's prisoners, among the
others are China, Sudan, and Libya, I believe.
The remainder of the world sees the U.S. as being
backward and barbaric in it's use of the death penalty,
and I must agree.
Thanks, Cate.
noted.


 

Joycey B. (750)
Wednesday January 9, 2008, 12:18 pm
Noted. Thanks Cate.
 

Past Member (0)
Wednesday January 9, 2008, 2:31 pm
THIS IS A TOUGH ONE FOR ME I DON'T BELEIVE IN CAPITOL PUNISHMENT YET AT THE SAME TIME IF SOMEONE KILLED MY MOTHER AND MUTILATED HER I WOULD WANT TO KILL OR HAVEW THEM KILLED SO IT TAKE EACH PERSON TO DECIDE THIS ISSUE BUT NO DOUBT IT DOES NOT DETER CAPITOL PUNISHMENT.CHRIS
 

Past Member (0)
Wednesday January 9, 2008, 2:39 pm
Tim I aggree with you and Cate both we do not even give a humane death to the coctail of drugs we use as we do animals.I live in Texas the Death House of the World (actually Olk. does more per captia but Texas kills more than even Russia . Most countries have decided it is barbaric.We have had some very horrendous mistakes made here in the death chamber .One time they had to shock a man 2 times and since the inception of the injection Texas has had 3 foul ups with it all on Tape. Can you imagine being strapped down and injected and got sick but didnt die and had to go all thru it again later on that day or the next? I say if they don't get themthe first time games over chris
 

Brandy Ramos (235)
Wednesday January 9, 2008, 4:03 pm
Noted. thanks Cate.
 

. (0)
Wednesday January 9, 2008, 7:53 pm
let them have life in jail
 

. (0)
Wednesday January 9, 2008, 7:53 pm
let them have life in jail
 

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Wednesday January 9, 2008, 7:53 pm
let them have life in jail
 

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Wednesday January 9, 2008, 7:53 pm
let them have life in jail
 

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Wednesday January 9, 2008, 7:53 pm
let them have life in jail
 

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Wednesday January 9, 2008, 7:53 pm
let them have life in jail
 

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Wednesday January 9, 2008, 7:53 pm
let them have life in jail
 

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Wednesday January 9, 2008, 7:53 pm
let them have life in jail
 

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Wednesday January 9, 2008, 7:53 pm
let them have life in jail
 

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Wednesday January 9, 2008, 7:53 pm
let them have life in jail
 

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Wednesday January 9, 2008, 7:53 pm
let them have life in jail
 

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Wednesday January 9, 2008, 7:53 pm
let them have life in jail
 

. (0)
Wednesday January 9, 2008, 7:53 pm
let them have life in jail
 

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Wednesday January 9, 2008, 7:53 pm
let them have life in jail
 

Past Member (0)
Wednesday January 9, 2008, 8:40 pm
noted and thanks Cate.
I am with you I am against the death penalty .A doctor won't even administer that death cocktail because its against his ethics and the oath he took to do no harm . As a nurse I can tell you those drugs do not work for all the same way and yes they can be in excruciating pain but their paralized and can't let the executioner know .It is cruel and unusual punishment no matter how you slice it. Besides its barbaric .
 

Michael Sandstrom (306)
Thursday January 10, 2008, 12:17 am
Noted and thanks again Cate!
 

Denice G. (45)
Thursday January 10, 2008, 1:50 am
No death penalty. There are better ways. thanks and noted
 

Anja M. (85)
Thursday January 10, 2008, 4:43 am
NOTED! You said it all Tim, thank you. No death penalties in my country as long as I can remember. We always punish VERY mildly. Compared to the USA we have absolute minimal crime rates. So death penalty does not discourage anyone.
 

Phyllis P. (405)
Thursday January 10, 2008, 11:28 am
not a fan of it, but I used to be.....thanks for posting
 

O O O. (139)
Thursday January 10, 2008, 4:04 pm
En Re:"Cruel & Unusual Punishments section of u.S. Consitution.

Because the document is dirived from the British system of law,& the more of that time & place,our system still recognizes what went on then,as if it where the standard of today,per Stare Decicis,It Has Been Decided...,regardless of any changes& this also means it is near impossable to place a new case befroe the court for even a hearing to try for a different outcome.
Per Dred Scott,per example,not totaly impossable,but do not hold your breath!

Per the British at that time,they both used almost everything one might imagne& then some upon their prisoners,so those all apply ,here& now to ours too.

In this,one is looking BOTH,at the WHAT,& HOW things are done,but also the level of pain,as that was "standard"then,so also now too.

There,then,they ?may also have been looking TO,createing the most suffering,& though that here as a direction,has changed,the standard to judge by has not.

Solutions: #1 Direct ,coinsiely detailed law change. #2 Directed applies to the minium req.'ed # of juges of the Supreem Court to themselves hear a case appropreate to be able to render a new decion in such manner as to be legaly binding upon all fifty states.

*Note,i noted to have this appeal direct to the judges,& the minium # req.'ed at the current time is four,because like in an election,what you think happens-doesn't!
Normaly,it is the law clerks,which are also only STUDENTS,who pick & chose which law cases to place for these judges to even see to judge upon,BUT,if any judge does want to see any case,they ask& MUST be allowed to see such cases,but it then takes at least four judges to get that case before the court itself.
When cases are turned down:#1 There is NO appeal-that is it-full stop.
#2 The Supreemes "May" direct a case to be returned to a lower level court to be heard by that court,if so,you go thru that first,then re start all over again to get to Supreem's with same chance level of being accepted/rejected. Or,case is settled in lower court & does not return.
#3 NO REASON NEED EVER BE CITED,as TO any REASON for refuseing to hear any case,& there is no appeal on this either.
#4 Those wishing to know how a case quilfied to even get this far to even have a chance to be heard here,e-mail me,please.
 

Patrick Cardwell (24)
Tuesday January 15, 2008, 5:30 am
Well, we have visited this before, but I'll go out on that infamous limb one more time.

First of all, I'm not an uncaring person. I realize there is a possibility of a wrongful death, lastly, I believe in the death penalty, but not for the reasons most people give. Mine is financial.

People in this country have been found guilty by a jury of their peers. With that verdict, they are dealt a punishment and that punishment needs to be dealt as quickly as possible, with over-site. The cost of keeping someone for life .. bad ... not my job .. I didn't do the crime .. I'm not doing the time ... either financially or otherwise.

With all the forensic tests available, the possibility of executing the wrong person is almost nil. Since I'm on that limb with a saw in my hand, the time from sentencing to execution needs to be streamlined. Everybody gets their automatic appeal, but these people who die of natural causes in prison, because they keep dragging it out for 30 years, is ridiculous. I'm not saying we need an assembly line, but it needs to be done and dealt out evenly.
 
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