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The Great Divide on the Supreme Court - And Who Will Be Next?

US Politics & Gov't  (tags: Supreme Court, justice, Supreme Court appointments, Guananmo, liberal, conservative, vote, president )

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Good coverage of the Supreme Court's vote to allow Guantanamo prisoners to challenge the US government in court - and why your vote in September is meaningful, even if it mean choosing the lesser of two evils.

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RC deWinter (418)
Sunday June 15, 2008, 6:40 am
I am unhappy with both presumptive presiential candidates. But this article and the following explain why I will vote for Obama in November:


RC deWinter (418)
Sunday June 15, 2008, 6:44 am
I am unhappy with both presumptive presidential candidates. Neither McCain't nor NoBama have the experience, insight and connection with the real world of we the people to govern effectively. However, having said that, here is why I will vote for Obama in November, and why your vote is so important, even if it means choosing between the lesser of two evils:

ohn McCain and Barack Obama: Two visions of the Supreme Court

Past Member (0)
Sunday June 15, 2008, 8:15 am
Noted and glad to see your back ! I was a bit worried when my emails went unanswered.
Also happy to hear than even though you don't particulaly like Obama you like McCain and what he would bring us as President even less .
While I don't share your view of Obama I respect your right to your opinion as always!

RC deWinter (418)
Sunday June 15, 2008, 9:16 am
I DESPISE McCAIN'T....I don't like either of our choices for November...

Ariel H (46)
Sunday June 15, 2008, 10:21 am
Excellent piece - truly shows what is at stake. Noted and thanks for posting

Past Member (0)
Sunday June 15, 2008, 12:29 pm
i also dont like either canidate .... and McCain was involved wtih the current administration for ALL of its bullshit .... so it will be a very sad novenmber here ...will vote ...but not the choices i want .. TY Cate smile

. (0)
Sunday June 15, 2008, 12:55 pm
Hi Cate so good to see you back!!! I too Agree I do not see any good in anyone of them at all. I also know that Obama did say and quote that Bush did good by giving Palistine weapons. Anybody that agress with Bush is just as bad as him in my eyes. So either way we go we are up a creek without a paddel. Thanks Cate note


Timothy Brown (1)
Sunday June 15, 2008, 1:30 pm
You're absolutely right Cate. Of the four uber-conservative justices that angrily dissented, two were from King George II and one from King Georgie I. These justices were gladly willing to put aside Habeas Corpus and accused the others of playing politics. Could this democracy stand to have one, two or three more justices like these appointed for life? We may be already doomed but this would seal it. The right wing portion of the GOP, and it very powerful, administers like it is a war and anyone not for them is just as bad as Bin Laden, Hitler, or Roosevelt. I was strongly for Hillary Clinton, I worked hard for her and I think she got shafted. But I am willing to gladly support Obama because he looks mighty good compared to McCain. Please be very careful in not voting or putting in a protest vote to send a message.

Past Member (0)
Sunday June 15, 2008, 1:31 pm
Noted and thank you Cate. I also don't care for either presumptive candidate. Thanks for posting this.

Sunday June 15, 2008, 1:53 pm
cate .thank you for posting this ............VOTING AS ALWAYS THE LESSER OF TWO EVILS ............

serge vrabec (278)
Sunday June 15, 2008, 2:10 pm
Noted Cate,GREAT to have you back.

Joycey B (750)
Sunday June 15, 2008, 2:50 pm
Noted with thanks Cate.

Elle J (276)
Sunday June 15, 2008, 3:43 pm
Noted. Glad you are back, Cate with as always the voice of reason.Good point, Timothy Brown. I made my position on that subject very clear although it was very unpopular.I supported John Edwards but the media tanked his campaign as evidenced by John Edwards having to remind the moderator in the last 3 way debate, that there were 3 people participating in the debate.

Yvonne White (229)
Sunday June 15, 2008, 5:53 pm
I preferred Dennis Kucinich, but I will vote for Obama. NO More RepubliCONs!

Karen M (176)
Sunday June 15, 2008, 6:46 pm
I really wanted Hillary in the White House, and I'm still disappointed. I hope Obama brings her on as his running mate.

Laurie W (189)
Sunday June 15, 2008, 6:59 pm
Personal opinion choices on what I viewed were better choices didn't stand a chance on being nominated and it all boils down to where "money" wants to place their backing behind.....long gone our the days when the average kid can dream of being president....

Henry Rockwood (4)
Sunday June 15, 2008, 8:10 pm
Once again the neocons will be screaming about the liberal justices on the Supreme Court. I thank God that there are at least 5 justices remaining who believe in our Constitution. We can not allow the fear of terrorism to force us to give up our rights as a free people. Yes, I agree that the majority of 'enemy combatants' being held are indeed terrorists. However some of the detainees have been falsely accused and deserve to be heard.
I respect John McCain, but, he has stated that he would appoint new members to the Supreme Court in the same vain as those appointed by George W Bush. That is the main reason why I can not support him as a candidate for President. And of course even if he had not made that statement I could not support him since the Republican Party must be punished for saddling this nation with the eight years of the Bush administration.

Linda H (199)
Sunday June 15, 2008, 11:43 pm
OH! Cate it is so good to have you back! I do not care for the candidates as well and wish we could snap our fingers and POOF! be gone be real I will wait I know so many things can happen. How people can be so gullible well
I guess I am not one to talk about that one LOL Good to see you back!

Marilynne B (28)
Monday June 16, 2008, 12:02 am
Hi Catie!! So glad to see you're back. I agree....the lesser of two evils.
Thanks for the story. I've missed you!!!!!!

Michael Sandstrom (306)
Monday June 16, 2008, 2:13 am
Thanks Cate, I agree, NOT McCain!! I have an idea, lets get ALL 50 states to secede form the Union and then re-instate another capitol in another state and get 1 candidate from each state to run for president and start this whole country over, by the people, for the people, of the people

Kathy Chadwell (354)
Monday June 16, 2008, 5:31 am
If Obama wants me to vote he'd better ask Dennis Kucinich to be his running mate:)

Stephen Hannon (203)
Monday June 16, 2008, 7:19 am
Noted, thanks Cate.

Susan L (118)
Monday June 16, 2008, 1:25 pm
I'm not happy with either possible candidate, either, but I can't and won't "stick my head in the sand" and pretend it doesn't matter. I like Michael Sandstrom's idea. Since I haven't heard or read a better one. I'm not looking forward to the election at all.

Glad you're back Cate and we've kept in touch and of that I am very, very glad.

O O O (143)
Monday June 16, 2008, 1:52 pm
Welcome back& thank you for staying Cate. It has been noted that there is now no two party reprentation in this election legaly,as mcCain does not quailfy even though he is a born natrualy American,he is not quilifed to run nor serve per 14 Admendment rules.
For any chance at a legal two or more choices to vote for,one must now consider one's choices of the prevevious conteders,& consider uesing your own powers,reserved to you the Peole alone,uncheckable by any parties,that of a write in vote of your own choice,such as Dennis Kucinich,per example.
One problem noted:Each person previously showing interest in running,as a more well know person,though i have seen no knowen bar to a total unknowen write in vote,though they would need enough votes to win-unknowen makeing that unlikely,it still may be legal,but upon winning,the winner needs to be one willing to serve. Before an election,how would one know if ones write in were willing to serve.

Regadless whom wins,this entire election cycle may have already been compromised,to knowingly have allowed& accepted without any challenge:McCains running,then acceptance to be voted upon.

There openly now,is no,vaild,two party system in America.

Dianne G (95)
Monday June 16, 2008, 5:38 pm
I too am not impressed with any of the candidates. It's all talk as far as I'm concerned. They are running not for "the people" but for the POWER over the people. I don't trust them because it's all about them! They'll flip back and forth until August. I understand the importance of the Supreme Court and getting back the constitution that has worked for years.
Besides, let's get's going to take eight years to fix what Bush and his cronies screwed up! This country is in the biggest mess it's ever been!

Barbara Tomlinson (431)
Tuesday June 17, 2008, 11:48 pm
As I started to write before Care2 shut down again for "maintanence"!:

The important thing about Obama's candidacy, is bigger than just Obama himself -- it is the ENTHUSIASM FOR CHANGE his candidacy has mobilised in so many young people.
They {and we} can KEEP THE PRESSURE ON, so that Obama will find it not-so-easy to back off or not make good on his campaign promises. We can also DRIVE HIM EVEN FARTHER THAN HE WANTS TO GO. Electing a Democrat will be JUST THE BEGINNING, and not the end!

For example, if SOLDIERS REFUSE TO FIGHT FOR OIL, neither a President Obama, NOR a President McCain, will be able to continue the illegal war and occupation of Iraq; or the FAILING war in Afghanistan!

So, it IS necessary to elect a Democrat and KEEP TABS ON THE CANDIDATE. It may be more difficult to steal an election and get away with it, now.

GETTING LIBERALS RATHER THAN CONSERVATIVES ON THE SUPREME COURT, not getting McCain/Bush/Cheney appointees, is of PARAMOUNT importance. They will make policy for DECADES to come. Among other issues to be decided by them, is the continuance, or the displacement, of Roe vs. Wade, a woman's right to choose.

We could still have Martial Law, or {s}election by assassination, as was the case when Bobby Kennedy was assassinated; or when Sen. Paul Wellstone was assassinated. ANYTHING can happen. But, as long as we have this tiny bit of choice, we should MAKE THE MOST OF IT.

Barbara Tomlinson (431)
Wednesday June 18, 2008, 12:10 am
"McCain promised that, if elected, he would follow President Bush's model in choosing Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. and Justice Samuel A. Alito Jr.

That could establish a large conservative majority on the court for years. With conservatives in full control, the court would probably overturn Roe vs. Wade and the national right to have an abortion. The justices also could give religion a greater role in government and the schools, and block the move toward same-sex marriage."

Yeah, that's what we all really want, huh?

There is really no comparison between the two candidates.
I'll just still be surprised if Obama is allowed to become President. They are no doubt looking for some crazed KKK-type they can make into a PATSY for assassinating him.
Just like Lee Harvey Oswald was nothing but a PATSY, blamed for the assassination of JFK.
[Please read the latest book out about it, "JFK and the Unspeakable; Why He Died and Why It Matters", by James W. Douglass. Under my real name, with the initials BT, by the way, I am in that book as having contributed -- page 404, footnote #67.]

Melissa Dawson (284)
Thursday June 19, 2008, 8:53 pm
But.. But... I have been voting for the lesser of two evils FOREVER!!!! When will we EVER get a REAL choice?????
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