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RC
- 593 days ago - youtube.com
The verichip is being pushed as a "lifesaving device," "security for you and your family" using catchwords designed to make us feel good about being catalogued and classified for the future. BEWARE the verichip.
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RC deWinter (418)
Saturday August 2, 2008, 7:39 am
I have the book referred to in the video, and it's not soothing. For more insidious information and possible future uses for the verichip, see this: IBM, Verichip and the Fourth Reich I also have the book about IBM and its role in helping Nazi Germany tracks people with Jewish ancestry. We are seeing the future, and we have been warned.
 

RC deWinter (418)
Saturday August 2, 2008, 7:40 am
For an excellent article, see Todd's news: VeriChip Corp. Takes Downturn in Wake of RFID Caner-Link And a big tiger thank you to faith, who pointed me the way to this story...
 

ita c. (61)
Saturday August 2, 2008, 7:57 am
The future is here!
Scary~but not surprising.
 

Joan Mclaughlin (133)
Saturday August 2, 2008, 8:01 am
Thanks Cate.I am on my way to read your other reccommended articles above.
 

Joycey B. (706)
Saturday August 2, 2008, 8:03 am
Because the FDA approved it, I want nothing to do with it. I don't trust them. This video tells it all. Why aren't any of them having it done? Because it is unsafe, that's why. Idiots. Noted. As always, Thanks Cate.
 

RC deWinter (418)
Saturday August 2, 2008, 8:04 am
ATTENTION FRIENDS OUTSIDE OF THE ENGLISH-SPEAKING COMMUNITY:
The verichip is an international menace. This is not something restricted to the US. There are other videos on YouTube in a variety of languages that address this issue that can be shared with the international Care2 community.
 

Todd R. (45)
Saturday August 2, 2008, 8:05 am
Don't accept the mark!!
 

Todd R. (45)
Saturday August 2, 2008, 8:06 am
Oh yeah Thanks for the link to the story Cate.
 

Sheila K. (127)
Saturday August 2, 2008, 8:10 am
Does anyone else feel like they're living in "The Twilight Zone" and/or "The Outer Limits"?! YIKES does it EVER end! Thanks again, Cate for another "scary" but relevant story. Unfortunately people who can't think for themselves will do anything that "sounds" like it's "good for them"....ARGH!
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday August 2, 2008, 8:14 am
Let's not!!! I am still an individual! (or so I like to think)
 

Joan Mclaughlin (133)
Saturday August 2, 2008, 8:15 am
look at the video Cate posted about the Nazi's it is bome chilling.It is a must see!
 

Nevaeh M. (75)
Saturday August 2, 2008, 8:29 am
Newer versions of the VeriChip will hold up to a megabyte of programmable data, and some may include a global positioning tracking feature.

The first concern is that it will fall into the hands of an evil and oppressive state,If you're thoroughly known, then you can be thoroughly controlled, because they'll know more about you than you want to be known And make no mistake — the world is zooming toward 666!
To think for one second, the rapid increase in technology preparing the way for 666 is just coincident is impossible. There is too much evidence. There is just too many coincidents.

There is an unseen "hand" zooming the world toward a global "digital world" of electronic-commerce, electronic-identification
thanks Cate ! noted very scary.
 

BMutiny TCorporationsEvil (427)
Saturday August 2, 2008, 8:31 am
Anybody who can't see that this is a "total control" device, is REALLY asleep and totally brainwashed!
It is part of an insidious strategy, to SCARE people, and then when they aren't thinking straight, are confused and panicked, to offer "solutions". [See Naomi Klein's book, 'The Shock Doctrine'.]

"False Flag" operations such as 9/11 and the Gulf of Tonkin incident and the Reichstag fire; scarey phoney "war" talk, as in, "the War on Drugs" and "the War on Terror"; hysterical media demonizing of certain people or countries, such as Muslims or Iranians or "eco-terrorists"; these constant stimuli lead to a pervasive atmosphere of fear and violent emotion. Minds are softened; people feel helpless and dis-empowered. Rationality and Common Sense fly out the window.
Just think how the MANUFACTURERS of these chips, are going to clean up! "Security", so-called!, is the fastest-growing industry today.

Refuse WHILE YOU STILL CAN.
 

Christine B. (117)
Saturday August 2, 2008, 9:17 am
did anyone see my post about feeling like a rat in a maze?... yipes
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday August 2, 2008, 9:22 am
Pure evil. And there are so many ways this could be put into us or our children. Already in our pound animals (yet no way for them to scan if your pet is lost--------think about that-------if they can't scan---who/why is it put there) Noted/thanks Cate
 

Scarlett S. (222)
Saturday August 2, 2008, 9:28 am
Ironic. My father recently referred to said chips in a recent email. Known for his dry sense of humor, he commented that he'd certainly implant a chip in my mother so that he could always find her. My mother found this amusing and stated that he was being sarcastic. It's important to maintain a sense of humor about such things. Those of us in the know KNOW what these chips represent. I'd strongly suggest that everyone read Revelations, regardless of religious choice.
Now pardon me while I drink one last shot of vodka. The time is NOW...

Cordially Yours,
The Whore of Babylon
 

RC deWinter (418)
Saturday August 2, 2008, 10:01 am
I did Christine, and methinks its more like a killing field than a maze.
 

RC deWinter (418)
Saturday August 2, 2008, 10:03 am
We're getting there, folks...keep on spreading the word and sign
 

RC deWinter (418)
Saturday August 2, 2008, 10:06 am
Only 251 more signatures needed to let Connecticut's state's attorneys about the support for Julie Merci beaucoup!
 

Terri S. (133)
Saturday August 2, 2008, 10:17 am
This is big brother marketing themselve again under false pretenses, and the cancer factor makes me sick.....my son watched the David Ike video about global takeover and he is determined he doesn't ever want to get a shot again! Fearful that they might be able to miniaturize them to the point that we would not know. I have friends that believe the polio shot that left that ever so familiar mark on all of our arms who were born in the fifties, was more than just to prevent polio, but to actually give us a mark that was some type of signature. I remembr reading Orwell's 1984 in high school and Toffler's Future Shock and thinking WOW...we aren't so far off the mark, are we??? Look Jane, See Spot run, see Dick get a shot so the feds can keep track of him......
 

Indio Blanco (22)
Saturday August 2, 2008, 10:33 am
Noted and Thanks, Cate. Right on the mark BMutiny, it is all about control.
 

Beth K. (54)
Saturday August 2, 2008, 10:39 am
I dont anyone to have control over my life but me..
No way would I approve this this petition or bill..
 

Marion No Fwds Y. (319)
Saturday August 2, 2008, 11:00 am
Don't do it! Just say "NO!"
 

Rinie Cassteele (25)
Saturday August 2, 2008, 11:13 am
From what I've heard the people in the militairy allready ot one in their vaccinations.
 

Rinie Cassteele (25)
Saturday August 2, 2008, 11:13 am
got
 

Eternal Optimist (115)
Saturday August 2, 2008, 11:26 am
Noted with thanks Cate. The scary thing is that they are targeting the children, the ones who don't know how to say no. How would you know if you have been violated? If they are out in the "open" about a verichip that is the size of a granule of rice, what aren't we being told about?
 

Urban Allyance (38)
Saturday August 2, 2008, 11:42 am
Wait until they artificially create another mass panic, bird flu for example, and people will run like lemmings to clinics to get their vaccinations. I think the top dog in "Bird Flu Vaccination" is a company where Rumsfeld is a major shareholder. You can imagine what they're gonna inject us with...
 

RC deWinter (418)
Saturday August 2, 2008, 12:00 pm
Yes, Rinie, I was told by someone who used to be on Care2 that a chip was implanted in him after military surgery for a wound.
 

Rinie Cassteele (25)
Saturday August 2, 2008, 12:06 pm
Also several older Care2 stories show the chip causing cancer in animals.
In the Netherlands in a few clubs and on a vacation island they hand out the chip under the cover of paying without a creditcard.
 

Kay J. (0)
Saturday August 2, 2008, 12:08 pm
Cheers Cate,
Have you seen the film called American: Freedom to Fascism, def worth watching.
 

Rinie Cassteele (25)
Saturday August 2, 2008, 12:14 pm
@Urban Allyance.
I know what you mean they keep threatening us with a pandemic flu and they've even revived the original pandemic flu from 1918.
What most people are forgetting is that the flu of 1918 only got to be pandemic because we had 4 years of trenchwar before the flu.
4 years of bad food and 4 years of very poor living circumstances.
The flu only kills people who have poor health anyways.

Ofcourse with the food most people are eating these days and the rise in autoimune diseases they are creating the circomstances that a pandemic could soon be a reality again.
 

Rinie Cassteele (25)
Saturday August 2, 2008, 12:16 pm
I'm hoping you're all aware that the WTO wants to get rid of 2/3 of the entire population before 2030?
 

Urban Allyance (38)
Saturday August 2, 2008, 12:23 pm
Hi Rinie,
yeah it all seems to be one big plan. Bird Flu, Y2K, 9/11, Cold War, Global Warming, all those scare tactics they use to keep our vibrational frequency down are designed to keep us worried, afraid and confused so we can't rise to a higher level of consciousness. Because if we would do that, we'd recognize that the whole system is based on bullshit and we wouldn't play their games anymore...
 

Rinie Cassteele (25)
Saturday August 2, 2008, 12:31 pm
Well you know besides playing their games, is there really anyone who can stop us playing our own game?
 

Urban Allyance (38)
Saturday August 2, 2008, 12:35 pm
The only ones that can stop us are are ourselves.
 

David Dykhuizen (22)
Saturday August 2, 2008, 1:22 pm
Cate,
do you think, then, that this could be the "mark of the beast?"
 

Lars S. (725)
Saturday August 2, 2008, 1:30 pm
This might seem a little far fetched, but, I wonder if they might already be doing this, without us knowing it. Seems they push flu shots pretty hard...
 

Deborah Hixson (11)
Saturday August 2, 2008, 1:37 pm
I read about this a few months ago on MySpace and joined the "we the people who will not be chipped" group. Frankly I agree with Scarlett S. as I have read Revalations 7 times now. Also did anyone note that the Verichip "spokesman" mentioned "Financial Info" being on the chip as well? Again, very Revalations-ish...But Darn! Im fresh out of Vodka!
 

Deborah Hixson (11)
Saturday August 2, 2008, 1:45 pm
well Lars, although I never take the "flu Shot" I can assure you that the needle gauge(size) is vastly larger when implanting the Verichip...Here, in Germany, We must have a "pet-passport" if we ever might travel with our pets...part of this is allowing your pet to be chipped...so I´ve personally seen the process...the needle is HUGE!
 

Barbara Liebowitz (949)
Saturday August 2, 2008, 2:18 pm
no way jose i'm not getting one not knowingly
 

Myriah Maston (23)
Saturday August 2, 2008, 2:36 pm
That is frightenening indeed, I couldn''t watch the whole thing, I just heard too much in the first little bit of it. My Grandma has warned my family about these things for years. It's frightening to see people actually thinking it is a good idea.
 

Daniel Barker (35)
Saturday August 2, 2008, 3:02 pm
Been there, done that, along with hundred of millios of other screaming Christians. Back in high school - I graduated in '72 - we discussed the Mark of the Beast, and decided it had something to do with computers and scanning.

This is all pretty much laid out in John's book of Revelations.
 

Pastor Tim Redfern (572)
Saturday August 2, 2008, 3:22 pm
I'm on the same page with Todd and Deborah:
The first time the government wants to implant
something in your body, tell them what they can
do with that implant.
Don't take the Mark!
The Book of Revelation is best read along with
the Old Testament book of Daniel:
Revelation interprets Daniel.
Daniel interprets Revelation.
This is the "Master Key" to Bible prophecy.

Thanks, Cate!
noted.
 

Laurie W. (196)
Saturday August 2, 2008, 3:23 pm
I smell a rat and not one of those used for research....screw being chipped and I would never have one of my pets done either...tags can help get your pet back home if lost...I prefer to keep big bro out of my face and personal business as much as possible...hell they want your phone number in stores when paying even cash for a purchase..why ?? because they sell the info to others..as high as phone bills have gone with all the extra taxes added on we as consumers should get a tax break for being marketing guiena pigs...I refuse to put anymore info out on myself or family..I'll take care of myself thank you..who wants a running log of where you shop for groceries,doctor visits and yes they want to chip the military members so no matter where they are shipped they can track down their medical info as well as pay info...also would ultimately help locate those who go AWOL ....
 

Gregory S. (255)
Saturday August 2, 2008, 3:40 pm
You can allow these people to cause you fear or you can ride the wave and help to keep things positive. If you allow yourself to be overcome by fear, these negative energies can usurp some of your vital energy like vampires.

My suggestion is stay informed, stay in the positive mindset. I do not buy into the ability for the Illuminati to take your power from you unless you allow it. They can control you if you stay fearful and complacent.

Christ said love your enemy. It is just as true today as in past times. You do not have to endorse the behavior or even like what is going on. But, love the person.

These negative forces are playing a role. It is a role that gets you feeling unsettled and off balance. From a spiritual standpoint it is necessary to get you to act against the tyranny.

Something is happening here that these negative forces hate and that is transparency. They are not a secret anymore. Get the word out. Try to make yourself more understanding of others. Because in the big scheme of things we are all connected and playing a game of good vs. evil. Good wins in the end every time.
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday August 2, 2008, 3:56 pm
NOT!!! i won't be one of the rats in a maze, what is this world a coming too????
thanks Cate and noted,
this is very scary and i for one am ready for a little island where i rule my own life with out big brother telling me what when where or how. :(
 

Kathy C. (270)
Saturday August 2, 2008, 4:19 pm
This is the problem with evil.
This could be used as a good thing,,, but since when do they do something that helps us? Eventually this will be misused by those in power.
I don't recommend getting one.
 

Christine B. (117)
Saturday August 2, 2008, 5:09 pm
i don't know, but these people that go in and get all this body sculpting done could have God know's what implanted in their bodies and not even know it... i'll just keep the one God gave me the way it is, thank you very much...:)
 

Louise L. (48)
Saturday August 2, 2008, 5:17 pm
Gee, no thank you. I agree with Gregory, there's really no need to worry that they can inject it without your permission, unless you are in the military and then they believe they own you! They're going to have to try to market it to us, maybe with a "You can fly right through security if you have a chip" kind of thing. Maybe some large corporations will make it mandatory to have one or you lose your job; or insurance companies drop your coverage if you don't comply. That's when you'll find out where you truely stand! This could become a huge social issue. Good article, Cate, keep them coming. As for Care2 censoring stories here: they should have a VERY strict criteria on how many valid complaints must come in BEFORE it is pulled....and none of this "new employee" excuse. Really, it should be covered under freedom of speech, and nothing pulled, but the public would abuse that.
 

Carol Simpson (2)
Saturday August 2, 2008, 5:32 pm
This is pretty scary. Do I dare to have another knee replacement and worry about being implanted? Thanks for an interesting article Cate. Blessings Carol
 

RC deWinter (418)
Saturday August 2, 2008, 5:49 pm
David, I do not subscribe to Biblical prophecies. Many people over many years have pointed the Bible, Nostradamus etc. etc. to explain new phenomena. I try to deal with each new situation in the present.
 

Ken S. (41)
Saturday August 2, 2008, 6:18 pm
There is a number of facts here about the Verichip...
The "families" behind this have been active for 100's of years.
They have been extremely sucessful so far
This piece of technology is the crux to being able to bring "big brother" to the ultimate step...and ultimate control...
Remember, your government representatives are only there by the "grace" of the Deep Government. This gives a VERY THIN facade that we, the people, (and mostly the "sheeple") have an imput into our destinies.As can be seen, by anyone with only a year 3 education, we DEFINITELY DO NOT have ANY imput into what or where our world is heading.
By manipulating the media,by using the public purse,and big multinational conglomerates, stupidity, greed, using any and all government resources, including police and "spook" type investigation entities, and tragically, by enlisting the religious community as willing allies(they will bless you as you go to war, and die",for some immoral purpose, so that the malevolent interests can and do as they please. Our religious leaders have much to answer for...
Would we have gone to war for oil ????
Would we produce virus technology(NOW bird flue) to be used on innocent citizens?? or ourselves, families and neighbors??
Would we allow multinational organisations to use gene technology to patent grains and plants, and now even natural grains and plants so that these companies can become even more obscenely rich????
Would we allow the Drug companies to destroy our health by selling /mandating drugs be sold to us that are patently & obviously dangerous and even deadly?? Would we allow the Banks to be owned and controlled by self serving individuals with no one to answer to except their own greedy selves??? Would we allow our health to be compromised by Chem-trails?? Of COURSE NOT. But it IS happening, and they get away with it. Will Bush and Co be indicted for war crimes...I doubt it...unless he becomes a disaster, and/or it is expedient....by the Deep government.
The wheels of destiny slowly grind on....but surely in the direction dictated by those with malevolent intent.unfortunately, unless we can encourage our families and friends to look at what is happening, they will be successful.These changes are happening slowly enough so that the sheeple are are not even aware..or care...and even so that some actively defend these same "interests" who mean to cause them so much harm.Time is running out...
It has become more obvious in politics,in many corners of the world, that we appear to be given 2 main parties, 2 candidates, as choices in an election. But in reality, our deep governments do not care who gets in....they have already selected these people anyway....if anything, it gives them an opportunity to get rid of any problem, or uncoperative members, and get more of their own people in, in so that they can have even more power....if that was possible...
This medium allows us to exchange ideas and communicate with other like minded people....We all have family and friends who cannot or will not see what is going on in this world....they laugh and give you," aww this only a conspiracy theory ".The trouble is some people will not believe us, and maybe even die thinking this.
"You can lead a horse to water, but you cannot make it drink".
Would, "you can give a person education, but you can't MAKE them think".be an appropriate saying in this case...to many of us it is so obvious.................but others inconvenient????too hard???


 

RC deWinter (418)
Saturday August 2, 2008, 6:46 pm
Yes, Kay, I have...and ZEITGEIST is another must view.
 

serge vrabec (269)
Saturday August 2, 2008, 7:09 pm
What Gregory said is powerful and makes sense, very well put. I don't see this veri-chip happening at full-scale. Thx Cate!
 

Nevaeh M. (75)
Saturday August 2, 2008, 8:45 pm
Barcodes 'stop baby mix-ups': "Barcodes containing newborn babies' fingerprints are being used to prevent mix-ups over identification. The system has been introduced in the maternity unit of La Zarzuela Hospital in Madrid, Spain. As soon as babies are born their fingerprints, and those of their mothers, are stored in electronic barcodes which mother and baby wear on their wrists. ... In effect, they act as an ID card for the child." No Place to Hide?
Surveillance is becoming a normal part of life in the "free" nations of the world, and America is leading the way. Surveillance cameras are now posted in schools, hospitals, and workplaces in this country. But such visible signs of a watchful Big Brother pale in comparison to a greater threat. Beyond the sight of ordinary Americans lurk vast interconnected systems of private, state, federal and international databanks. Their fast-growing files of personal information about ordinary citizens are now shared, sold, distorted, and often used to monitor, manipulate, and manage lives in ways we can hardly conceive.
A National ID. Compliance with the new standards will be rewarded,[12] and the proposed National ID cards will show who conforms. The two alarming proposals -- a "unique identifier" and a National ID -- seem made for each other.

U.S. Congressman Ron Paul saw the danger. On September 18, 1998, he sent an urgent warning to his colleagues, asking that "language forbidding the expenditure of funds to implement either Section 656 of the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996 and Section 1173 (b) of the Social Security Act... be included in any omnibus budget considered by Congress this year." Then he summarized the threat to American freedom:
Unless Congress acts to stop this scheme, no American will be able to get a job; open a bank account; apply for Social Security or Medicare; exercise their Second Amendment rights; or even take an airplane flight unless they produce their federally-approved state drivers' license

"These provisions represents a major power-grab by the federal government and a major threat to liberty. As the law stands now, the federal government will have the ability to inappropriately monitor the movements and transactions of every citizen. History shows that when government gains the power to monitor the actions of the people, it eventually uses that power to impose totalitarian controls on them.

"The Clinton administration has even come out in favor of allowing law enforcement officials access to health care information, in complete disregard of the fifth amendment...

"Some claim that the problems can be fixed by passing "privacy protection" legislation. However, legislative attempts to protect the privacy of information collected by, or at the command, of government officials are likely to be ineffective at protecting citizens from the prying eyes of government officialsthe only effective way to protect privacy is to forbid the government from forcing citizens to accept a national identifier. Persecution. Surveillance is nothing new. The twentieth century created some effective ways of identifying and monitoring citizens, especially those who might resist a new ideology. peace
 

Suzybell H. (218)
Saturday August 2, 2008, 9:59 pm
They must think we are nothing but sheep! Or maybe totally asleep!Thanks,Cate!
 

Barb PL (1087)
Saturday August 2, 2008, 10:22 pm
It is getting to the point anything approved by the government is dangerous in one form or another if it goes into our bodies or that of our children.
Noted! Thanks Cate for another great post!
 

Sandra M Z. (91)
Sunday August 3, 2008, 12:06 am
Prisoners are already chipped against their will.........

I will NOT be chipped. That Verichip spokesperson, well my Vibe said he was not telling the truth!

THEY CAUSE CANCER.

LuckyArtLady has all the info on "privatizing yourself", so they can't legally chip you even if it is made "mandatory" by the way of another 9/11, nuclear attack, or whatever they use next here in the U.S. to have the sheeple running for chips and "safety"(read: final loss of your last liberty, your own body!

Just say NO CHIPS!

Thank you Cate, noted. This is a topic we need out in the open.
 

Goddess Lozz (213)
Sunday August 3, 2008, 10:52 am
How do we get out of this one?!
Thanks Cate.
 

Past Member (0)
Sunday August 3, 2008, 11:25 am
Do they make these "chips" in tha shape of breasts for implantation?!! If so,I could use the Government's help in that regard!!
Seriously, I think that this chip is perhaps a presumable albeit dangerous test of technology because sooner or later, there will be chips to monitor and operate everything in our homes, cars etc. There is far too much legal and medical liability for this device to be used in humans anyway, so I'm at a loss as to how it will ever appeal to anyone. Thx, Cate!!
 

Laurel W. (212)
Sunday August 3, 2008, 12:53 pm
Small farmers are now struggling in some states because livestock is required to be verichipped and the farmers cannot afford the extra cost.--so they are losing their rights. True Foods Network activists are fighting the chip at the FDA level. Verichip is part of Homeland Security, however military around the world is being chipped.

The royal family children were the first to be Verichipped for "security reasons". 500 US hospitals have handed the patient records over to Verichip--I read this on Verichips website:) The FreeMason Shriners are pushing it as a way to "protect" your children from abduction.--They eye in the pyramid group...like on your money:P Yes they plan on watching us! The little babies in some states are being Xmarked now so they are tracked.

I am remembering back to the Atlanta Olympics and the bank, I recall it being a Wachovia rep..and the article was Scientific American? And they said the BANK was phasing in the Smart Card at the Olympics to see if people would go for it and if they did, they would start moving off of cash.
Well that's happened. The rep said, "If I had it my way, I would tag every infant's ear at birth."--and that really struck me. So if we look at how the verichip is evolving, from the Smart Cards it is related to multinational banks. Military is also capitalizing on the technology.

If all goes according to Verichip's plan, they will replace the regular work IDs with a chip to get into buildings so all movements can be monitored within a building. All goods will be marked so they will know who bought/sold anything. They will likely combine this with bank account information. I would suspect Homeland Security will use the excuse of fighting terrorists. --probably terrorists who have at some point worked for the CIA.

They won't have to track money through the strips anymore. Your debit card will be in the palm of your hand. All of this is fine and well as long as you are in agreement with whoever is running the government. Try fighting them with no money and food, with them knowing your location anytime/anywhere.

No one should have that much power. It's too easy to abuse it to form a dictatorship that would be hard to fight once in place...
oh yes and then they would listen to our calls so how could we even talk about revolution without being put in jail.
With Bush's new plan he could arrest you, torture you, pardon himself, and keep you in jail indefinitely.
 

Deborah Hooper (59)
Sunday August 3, 2008, 1:36 pm
“It was one of those pictures which are so contrived that the eyes follow you about when you move. BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING YOU, the caption beneath it ran.”- George Orwell [pseudonym of Eric Arthur Blair] - 1984
 

Brittany Carothers (4)
Sunday August 3, 2008, 3:14 pm
"Because the FDA approved it, I want nothing to do with it. I don't trust them."

The FDA has to approve all administered drugs or procedures that are released to the Public. Including Tylenol and other over the counter drugs.


I definitely don't see it as healthy, safe, or just a good idea. People will quickly learn how to replicate the scanner and then where will we be.
People would know what diseases possibly linking them to knowing which medications you're prescribed. Way to go..Now the drug user and dealers will have the upper hand.
Big Brother losing the war on anything everything.
 

Dometria Lanauze (6)
Sunday August 3, 2008, 4:13 pm
Anyone here read, 1984 by George Orwell,Dallas Instruments were already experimenting with such a chip in the 60's. Reagan and Nixon were considering using it on school children in DC. to control their minds. Stay away from even the Dentists unless you know that they're not implanting such a device into your fillings.Scary times we live in, Best to be awake when sleeping, if you get my drift. Peace in Our Quest For Truth
 

Phyllis P. (425)
Sunday August 3, 2008, 5:08 pm
Bull shirt.....they won't be putting that thing in me. Ever seen the movie Invaders from Mars? lolol
 

David Buchan (131)
Sunday August 3, 2008, 9:11 pm
Thanks Cate. Yep Deborah, George just turned in his grave (again)...Must be getting in quite a tangle down there...
 

Laurel W. (212)
Sunday August 3, 2008, 11:02 pm
Chip Implants
Linked to Animal Tumors
TODD LEWAN / AP 9sep2007

When the U.S. Food and Drug Administration approved implanting microchips in humans, the manufacturer said it would save lives, letting doctors scan the tiny transponders to access patients' medical records almost instantly. The FDA found "reasonable assurance" the device was safe, and a sub-agency even called it one of 2005's top "innovative technologies."

But neither the company nor the regulators publicly mentioned this: A series of veterinary and toxicology studies, dating to the mid-1990s, stated that chip implants had "induced" malignant tumors in some lab mice and rats.

"The transponders were the cause of the tumors," said Keith Johnson, a retired toxicologic pathologist, explaining in a phone interview the findings of a 1996 study he led at the Dow Chemical Co. in Midland, Mich.

Leading cancer specialists reviewed the research for The Associated Press and, while cautioning that animal test results do not necessarily apply to humans, said the findings troubled them. Some said they would not allow family members to receive implants, and all urged further research before the glass-encased transponders are widely implanted in people.

To date, about 2,000 of the so-called radio frequency identification, or RFID, devices have been implanted in humans worldwide, according to VeriChip Corp. The company, which sees a target market of 45 million Americans for its medical monitoring chips, insists the devices are safe, as does its parent company, Applied Digital Solutions, of Delray Beach, Fla.

"We stand by our implantable products which have been approved by the FDA and/or other U.S. regulatory authorities," Scott Silverman, VeriChip Corp. chairman and chief executive officer, said in a written response to AP questions.

The company was "not aware of any studies that have resulted in malignant tumors in laboratory rats, mice and certainly not dogs or cats," but he added that millions of domestic pets have been implanted with microchips, without reports of significant problems.

"In fact, for more than 15 years we have used our encapsulated glass transponders with FDA approved anti-migration caps and received no complaints regarding malignant tumors caused by our product."

The FDA also stands by its approval of the technology.

Did the agency know of the tumor findings before approving the chip implants? The FDA declined repeated AP requests to specify what studies it reviewed.

The FDA is overseen by the Department of Health and Human Services, which, at the time of VeriChip's approval, was headed by Tommy Thompson. Two weeks after the device's approval took effect on Jan. 10, 2005, Thompson left his Cabinet post, and within five months was a board member of VeriChip Corp. and Applied Digital Solutions. He was compensated in cash and stock options.

Thompson, until recently a candidate for the 2008 Republican presidential nomination, says he had no personal relationship with the company as the VeriChip was being evaluated, nor did he play any role in FDA's approval process of the RFID tag.

"I didn't even know VeriChip before I stepped down from the Department of Health and Human Services," he said in a telephone interview.

Also making no mention of the findings on animal tumors was a June report by the ethics committee of the American Medical Association, which touted the benefits of implantable RFID devices.

Had committee members reviewed the literature on cancer in chipped animals?

No, said Dr. Steven Stack, an AMA board member with knowledge of the committee's review.

Was the AMA aware of the studies?

No, he said.
 

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Monday August 4, 2008, 6:29 am
I received a phone call of a medical company the other day here in Greece about getting myself DNA typed and Gene tested for pro disposition of diseases etc.

I informed the woman I would never want to do that for reason of personal inforamtion being collected and used and sold to various info buyers - insurance companies and banks, goverment etc. I KNOW this is already going on - illegally mind you. The INFO WAR is on and real TODAY - and you are the commodity to be traded. Your buying power etc.

Those chips and thanks to all we have discovered can store a multitude of information about you. It also can be fed new info. You can be tracked etc. Some even think of linking it openly to sats in order to administer "medicine" in cases of heart problems or diabeties. Of course this would only be a one shot deal ---- but together with the tracking devise ....

Just imagine - next time you are at a demo they knock you and a few hundert out in one shot. Doubt it? Look how they abuse the tasers. How were they marketed? No kill right? Do they kill? - Yes! Are they used extensively? - YES!

So what about the chip?

Take the power back people. Wake up - you are powerful - it only takes one word: NO!
 
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