Start A Petition

Federal Judge to Bush: Snowmobiles in National Parks Not in Keeping With Park Protection


Environment  (tags: snowmobiles, national parks, Bush, Montana, Yellowstone, Grand Tetons, conservation, noise pollution )

RC
- 3590 days ago - nytimes.com
Judge Emmet G. Sullivan of Federal District Court in Washington ruled against a BUSHCo proposal to allow more than 500 snowmobiles a day into two national parks. He said the plan favored use over the park's mission: conservation. Will the decision hold?



Select names from your address book   |   Help
   

We hate spam. We do not sell or share the email addresses you provide.

Comments

RC deWinter (418)
Tuesday September 16, 2008, 4:32 am
I love Judge Sullivan! His ruling that snowmobiles add noise, pollution and damage to what the park service is charged to protect and conserve is wise, visionary and environmentally sound. But snowmobiling enthusiasts have promised to fight the ruling and are determined to have it overturned.
 

Clever Pseudonym (176)
Tuesday September 16, 2008, 4:33 am
Failin Palin loves snowmobilin'
 

Joycey B (750)
Tuesday September 16, 2008, 4:59 am
IT IS SO GOOD TO SEE SOMEONE STAND UP TO BUSH. SHAME ON THESE SNOWMOBILERS FOR NOT CARING ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT. THANKS CATE.
 

Maureen S (35)
Tuesday September 16, 2008, 5:16 am
Snowmobiles traumatize the animals in the forests. Most people scoff at that, saying the animals just run away. Not true. Can you imagine being scared out of your wits by the noise, vibration, sounds of these things? They destroy the tranquility for people who enjoy the beauty of silence. Animals get crushed and hurt by the machines also.
 

Hans L (958)
Tuesday September 16, 2008, 5:19 am
Thank you Cate great news indeed!

I must admit i also love snow mobilling but since it is the only way of transport on Spitsbergen i did not even feel bad about it. Did it once for one expedition in 2000!
you have no other choice if you want to visit the Polar bears at the eastcoast of Svalbard!
But it is increasing on Svalbard to and the chance that you can spot polar bears is small if you are somewhere near the snowmobile highways.......it should be restricted everywhere!

its good that it is restricted only professionals should be able to use snowmobiles!

Mr Palin does not only love it, he is the world champion!
I am sure that if $arah makes it you will be able to enjoy
riding a snow mobile in all the parks! Dont forget your guns and rifles!
 

Carolyn T (234)
Tuesday September 16, 2008, 6:29 am
noted. Snowboarding in national parks is, in my opinion, something we do not want to take place for all of the excellent reasons stated above. These areas should remain as natural and pristine as possible. Let's hear it for Judge Sullivan and let's do keep a watchful eye on this. Thank you, Ms. deWinter!
 

ROBIN M (312)
Tuesday September 16, 2008, 7:14 am
i guess he told Bush hurray for him
 

Stephen Hannon (203)
Tuesday September 16, 2008, 8:58 am
Noted, thanks Cate. This case has taken quite some time to reach the federal courts, and it was the right decision by Judge Sullivan, but BusCo may appeal his decision to the court of appeals where his cronies are seated. I doubt we have heard the last of snowmobiles in Yellowstone.

McShame has a new ad out accusing Obama of sending 30 lawyers to Alaska to dig up dirt on Palin. The ad is a video from Fact Check. org and shows Wolves running through the woods. What a couple of dirt bags they are.
 

Estella Ameigh (22)
Tuesday September 16, 2008, 9:09 am
They do not belong in the national parks. In our area we have some country
roads that they are allowed to ride on. Some people that ride them do not
respect the land though and have been known to take off across a field and
ruin a good crop of winter wheat. People who don't have any farming knowledge don't seem to understand that sometimes there is a crop growing
beneath the snow and you should not be driving across it. Also have had a
few riders who don't stay away from the booze and get loud and distructive
during the wee hours of the morning. Snowmobile riding is a lot of fun, but
it is like everything else in this world - a few bad actions can ruin it
for everyone. If you go out be responsible and be safe.
 

Marian E (152)
Tuesday September 16, 2008, 9:57 am
Many times the animals run. In winter when they are foraging for food in high snow,
this depletes fat stores and can mean the difference between life and death for many.

Good ruling, will probably be fought. Those of us that love and live near Yellowstone
and Teton Park are anticipating another fight but we also do not plan on giving up.

Thank you Cate.

 

Pete Conrads (91)
Tuesday September 16, 2008, 10:08 am
Yeaaaaaaa Judge Emmet G. Sullivan, I bet that would terrify the poor creatures, and there would always be cruel abusers....
 

Darlene K (356)
Tuesday September 16, 2008, 10:26 am
Noted and thank you, Cate. I have never rode a jetski or a snowmobile, in my life, and even though I don't intend to own one of these toys, MANY won't give up this fight, because of the "fun" that they get out of using them. Very blind, they are....
 

serge vrabec (278)
Tuesday September 16, 2008, 10:55 am
Thank you Mr. Judge!!!!!! Some one should really tell Bush that he's down to 4 months left. Go away already and take your bosum buddy McSame with you please. P.S. Beware of People,animals, and weather "patterns" if you ever make it back to the "real" world Georgie- thx Cate!
 

Deborah Hooper (59)
Tuesday September 16, 2008, 1:38 pm
Farout, Man!
 

Louise L (48)
Tuesday September 16, 2008, 1:53 pm
Sooo thrilled to hear this. Bush seems bound and determined to do as much harm as possible! IDIOT! Thanks for good news, Cate.
 

Evelyn D. (0)
Tuesday September 16, 2008, 1:53 pm
I gave Luna away the one from the news paper. Next day the lady couldn't taken the crying she had all night until I show up Luna stop look at me, said Eveeeelyn that was it took her back home. Reason to give her up i was afraid what would she do with the babies at home. so she stop yelling. until the babies is gone. then luna started to do a number to get attention cried help me who ever knock on the door. At the time i was out, while two couple wanted information but heard a cried like a woman and they call 911
then officer came ambulance came and k9 also came with animal control..
the officer heard the cried then action...door is fix people by owner.
 

Mike Easter (0)
Tuesday September 16, 2008, 3:24 pm
Way to go George. 2 parks X 500 snowmobiles X 100 days X 5 gallons of gasoline= 500,000 gallons (that is half a million folks). Sure seems to fit right in with the Presidents energy policies!!!!!!!





 

Past Member (0)
Tuesday September 16, 2008, 3:56 pm

For the snowmobiles. Good for Mother Earth. They destroy.
 

Michelle Neubert (1)
Tuesday September 16, 2008, 3:59 pm
they forgot POACHING. a Denali (Alaska) forest ranger said in the winter the biggest danger to the animals are poachers on snowmobiles. you can get back further in the woods (summer time ground muckier and full of brush) over snow in the winter. Major factor too is that snowmobiles can carry out bear, wolves, and other game whose pelts bring big bucks. for hunters, deer, elk, and moose are easier to carry out in snowmobiles versus hiking out.
 

David Gould (155)
Tuesday September 16, 2008, 4:27 pm
One can understand there is a difference if you live in an area of constant snow and need to get about...but I think this is about snowmobile for fun...what we call the 'boy racer menace' in the UK...loads of petrol heads destroying thepeaceand quiet for nature and nature lovers.

 

Brandee B (31)
Tuesday September 16, 2008, 4:35 pm
Yay go Mr. Judge!! Man I hate Bush, when he is gone, and Obama (hopefully!!!) is in I hope that things start changing!
 

Aletta Kraan (146)
Tuesday September 16, 2008, 5:18 pm
Wonderful news !!! Love that judge .
 

Mike P (24)
Tuesday September 16, 2008, 5:36 pm
What a great first step. The fight is not over yet though - the appeals are next.
 

Deborah N (37)
Tuesday September 16, 2008, 6:44 pm
Great first step.. but do you think that Bush will actually do as the Judge says.. he seems to be unlawful in alot of ways..& when Bush wants something BAD enough he goes for it till he gets it.. even if its around the Judge.. snowmobiles don't belong in parks anyhow.. don't like them or 4-wheelers... they run the critters .. & its not right..we have 7 acres here & we don't allow 4 wheelers or snowmobiles in our woods.. I have to many (wild) friends & they aren't gonna be scared .. they know my land is a safe place & thats the way its gonna stay..
 

Past Member (0)
Tuesday September 16, 2008, 9:06 pm
Nice to know.
 

Barry Seth (118)
Tuesday September 16, 2008, 10:29 pm

Hoo-Ray!! It's about time Bush started losing the court battles
 

CHRISTIAN RYAN (11)
Wednesday September 17, 2008, 1:41 am
NEXT THEY WILL TRY TO RACE 18 WHEELERS OR THE GIANT TRUCKS IN THE PARK. MR. BUSH IS THE WORST PRESIDENT IN HISTORY HIS RECORD SPEAKS FOR ITS SELF. HE IS ALSO BY ALL POLLS THE LEAST WORTH AND POPULAR PRESIDENT SINCE CALVIN COOLIDGE. HERE I AM IN TEXAS WE ARE 3 MILLION WITH OUT POWER THEY RAN OUT OF FOOD TO FEED THE EVACUEES HERE IN AUSTIN 150 MILES FROM THE COAST .THEY HAD NO COTS FOR PEOPLE ANYWHERE IN OUR SHELTERS FOR PEOPLE TO LAY DOW AND NO BOTTLED WATER. FRIENDS YOU MAY HAVE GONE ONTO YOUR NEXT INTERREST BUT DONT PLEASE FORGET ABOUT US HOMELESS COLD AND WET TEXANS BUSH DID HE HASNT EVEN COME TO HIS OWN HOME HERE TO HAVE A LOOK SEE WE KNOW HE DOESNT GIVE A DAMN, MY POOR NEPHEW IN MEDICAL SCHOOL AT THE HUGE U OF TEX MEDICAL SCHOOL IN GALVESTON LOST ALL. HE IS A INTERN SO HE MAKE NADA! HAD TO BORROW TO EAT, HIS MEDICAL TEXTBOOKS ARE ALL RUINED AS THE ROOF WAS BLOWN OFF HIS APT. HE HAS NO PLACE TO STAY EVEN IF THEY WOULD LET HIM ON GALVESTON SO HE IS AT MY BROTHER ,HIS DADS HOUSE AND TOTALLY DEMORALIZED BY THE GOVT 'S ACTIONS. ITS KATRINA ALL OVER BUT WORSE THEY SHOULD HAVE LEARNED BUT HERE WE ARE NO FOOD AND WATER OR EVEN A DFAMN COT FOR THE 150 THOUSAND THAT CAME TO OUR AREA. DAMN THE BUSH GOVT AND HOME LAND WITH IT. CHRIS RYAN I AM ANGRY AND DESERVE TO BE .CHRIS
 

CHRISTIAN RYAN (11)
Wednesday September 17, 2008, 1:50 am
PSS FRIENDS DID I TELL YOU ABOUT 10 DAYS AGO BUSH PARDONED HIMSELF FROM ANY AND ALL PROSECUTION RESULTING FROM HIS JOB AND ACTIONS AS PRESIDENT. NOW WHAT ALL ELSE IS HE HIDING? HE IS AFREAID THEY WILL TRY HIM AS A WAR CRIMINAL FOR INVADING REPUBLICS OUT OF PURE GREED AND POWER AND MONEY AND GREED DRIVE IT DID YOU ALL KNOW THIS????? CHRIS LOOK IT UP IF YOU DONT I ALMOST PASSED OUT THEN I THOUGHT THE DUD IS AFRAID OF SOMETHING ELSE WE DONT KNOW NOW THAT RALPH NADER IS GETTING TO THE BOTTOM OF WHO DID OR WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON 9/11/ THEY ARE SHAKING IN WASHINGTON. I HEARD HIM ON ALEX JONES LAST FRIDAY AND HE SAID HE THINKS THEY WHOLE THIG MAKES NO SENCE AS ITS TOLD FROM A ENGINEERS STANDPOINT THE BUILDINGS DIDNT BURN DOWN ON EACH OTHER TO MANY IMPLOSIONS WERE HEAR ANS SEEN I HAVE FOOTAGE I AM SCARED TO SHOW FROM THE AIR OF IT HAPPENING. AND WHERE IS THE GIANT AIRLINER THAT WENT THRU THE TINY HOLE IN THE WALL OF THE PENTAGON? WHAT A LIE IF EVER THERE WAS ONE. THIS IS MY CONCLUSION AFTER YEARS OF READING LISTENING TO SILVERSTIEN THE OWNER OF THE WTC BLDS SAY "PULL" BLDG 7 PARLANCE IN THE INDUSTRY FOR BLOW IT ALL THE FBI HOMELAND AND CIA OFFICES WERE IN THAT BLDG THEY SURE WANTED IT GONE DIDNT THEY??? CHRIS
 

Irene Bohmann (0)
Wednesday September 17, 2008, 2:58 am
God bless you Judge Sullivan! You've got our parks's welfare at heart, and with the country going south in a handbasket, it's really nice to see.
Mr. Ryan, I live in Houston - haven't had lights since Saturday night, but at least I have a roof over my head - I feel really bad for your nephew - i
wisht there was something I could do to make it all go 'way. And I understand how you feel about Bush. Used to be, whoever was in the White House made it a lil bit easier for his home state. That went out w/LBJ & NASA. I know, don't get you started! But seriously, Bush needs impeached BEFORE he leaves office! Ah yes, another dream down the drain...
 

Christine A (57)
Wednesday September 17, 2008, 8:37 am
I have the greatest admiration for Judge Sullivan! It take courage to stand up to 'Bushco'!

Snowmobiles are devastating to animals and the environment! Of course, snowmobile fanatics couldn't care less about the animals, noise, air pollution and global warming they cause.

- Live for the moment and to heck with the consequences. These are the same folks who would be the first to complain when the pollution problem becomes irreversible.
 

Past Member (0)
Wednesday September 17, 2008, 9:34 am
I do love your president. Ho! man...that's it !!! i cracked up .Please,please put me in mad house for the rest of my life .
 

Past Member (0)
Wednesday September 17, 2008, 9:38 am
ps. big hug to the juge and i like to shake is hand
 

Scarlet L (1)
Wednesday September 17, 2008, 3:38 pm
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Jeramie D (5)
Wednesday September 17, 2008, 6:51 pm
Hooray, Judge !!!!! I had 2 snowmobiles and then realized how horrible they were for the environment so got rid of them. See, we can change. there is hope. I hope they ultimately ban them entirely. It is just too devestating to the animals. Noise, pollution, fear and maybe even hunters chasing animals from snowmobiles like Sarah with her airplanes shooting wolves. God bless the animals. I am PRO LIFE only for animals. Global Cooling for polar bears!
 

Denice G (45)
Wednesday September 17, 2008, 9:06 pm
That is wonderful news.
 

Suzanna van der Voort (271)
Thursday September 18, 2008, 5:48 am
This is really beautiful, wonderful news!!
 

IE Ries (237)
Thursday September 18, 2008, 9:16 am
Snowmobiles in parks are like jetboats on lakes: noisy, noxious and dangerous to wildlife.

What is the purpose of a park, anyway?

Animal habitat
Preserved habitat for humans to see - AS IS

None of that includes snowmobiles or 4-wheel drive vehicles or ATVs or anything else in there making noise, spewing pollution and tearing up the land or disturbing the animals and other park patrons who are there to see natural habitat and animals!

THANK YOU JUDGE SULLIVAN! :)
 
Or, log in with your
Facebook account:
Please add your comment: (plain text only please. Allowable HTML: <a>)


Track Comments: Notify me with a personal message when other people comment on this story


Loading Noted By...Please Wait

 


butterfly credits on the news network

  • credits for vetting a newly submitted story
  • credits for vetting any other story
  • credits for leaving a comment
learn more

Most Active Today in Environment





 
Content and comments expressed here are the opinions of Care2 users and not necessarily that of Care2.com or its affiliates.

New to Care2? Start Here.