Friday October 3, 2008, 3:05 pm
We don't need gasoline,
we never needed it

Facts: Scientific and historical about gasoline and alcohol

1. The original automobiles ran on alcohol because when they were invented gasoline was not available.

2. Rockefeller spent $4 million (that we know of) to promote Prohibition, a ban on alcohol manufacturing in the US that started in 1919 just as the car industry was taking off.

3. When Prohibition was lifted in 1933, gasoline stations were ubiquitous and most engines ran on gasoline only.

4. Alcohol can be manufactured locally and on a community level from renewable plant material for $1 per gallon.

5. The growing of plant material for alcohol would have no effect on the price of food.

6. The growing of plants for fuel would more than neutralize the carbon created by burning alcohol for fuel.

7. In Brazil, over 50% of new cars sold can already run on 100% alcohol.

8. Producing alcohol from plant material is incredibly energy efficient.

9. The oil companies aggressively promote garbage science to deceive the public into believing that alcohol fuels: a) will cause starvation, b) are uneconomical, and c) are net polluters.

10. Gasoline is a high toxic material.

11. It is entirely unneeded to fuel our cars.

12. Oil companies like Chevron have pressured PBS, commercial TV networks and other news media to keep this basic information from the public for decades - and the censorship continues to this day.

Saturday October 4, 2008, 1:42 pm
on all products that are Earth Saving.For example HEMP which would replace 90% of our oil needs in North America within 6 - 12 months.
HEMP = Fuel,Food,Cancer cure,Paper,Clothes,Paints etc...Not only is HEMP
censored it is ILLEGAL...Go figure? For more info on whats really going on check out Scott's news...

Hemp Save Our Earth...No Toxic Chemicals...Get Conscious Naturally...

The Monarch Mind Control Program of Deception and Censorship is Over...

We are Evolving Rapidly Liz like it or not...Like Photons for FOOD...
and Free Consciousness with no Fake Ether...its over now your Busted!

Saturday October 4, 2008, 1:55 pm
Why stop there? What about element 115? (Courtesy Bob Lazar/Art Bell)

The reason we use petroleum is foot and mouth disease. When the car got low on water, the driver would pull over to the nearest farm and fill up the tank with water from the trough, turn the steam engine back on and drive away.

Foot and mouth disease was cured by eliminating the trough - it stopped the spread of disease. That meant the steam engines no longer had a source of water and were doomed.

I think what we need is 'all of the above' - everything on the table, for the public to decide.

Electric vehicles are on the market. If alcohol is available let's use it. We could use an electric vehicle powered by alcohol.

Saturday October 4, 2008, 5:01 pm
Good find, Janet. There are so many alternatives to oil that are plentiful, safer and cheaper. Just read that ethanol is messing up engines. Hemp, electric, even sorghum sounds better.

Saturday October 4, 2008, 7:33 pm
thanks for this article. it's new to me that cars originally ran on alcohol.
saw a headline this week, but didn't read article -- the world health organization has come out with a study that using crops for ethanol is causing more starvation. this can be offset if the ALGAE producers complete the process and patents for harvesting algae for biodiesel and biofuel. one company was growing it on 30 foot high sheets of plastic = vertical farming taking less land, plus 10X the fuel produced by algae versus corn.

Saturday October 4, 2008, 11:15 pm
I have just been warned that there could be something big and bad that is line for everyone and it could be on either the 6th or 7th of october. If this is the time for it to happen, the prayers of those who are praying for the winds of strife to be held back will not have their prayers answered. Heaven help us all if it goes ahead. I was not informed as to what it was but it could very well be something to do with the NWO and collateral damage is expected to affect a lot of people. So much for so called "christians" who wear the name on their coat sleeve but their heart has nothing but self in it. You and I do not count. $$$$$$ do.

Sunday October 5, 2008, 12:55 am
The Ancients used WATER, SOLAR, AND MAGNETICS OF THE EARTHS FIELD.We are already making water powered cars, But, and it is a big BUT,the Oil companies, do not whant to go bust. There interest is there jobs there buisnesses there econamy. Instead of cutting there loses and bringing out this good Idea they hold back the Free power becouse it is free. There is so much more to all of these Oil producing Country's, with there lose of revenue, and most of them owe debts of billions and have no other thing to sell or market.You must now wake up to the realizasion that all power is Free. You should not have to buy any power scorce at all. Gas Electricity, or Water. All should be FREE. THANK YOU FATHER, PLEASE AWAKEN MY ANGELS. AMEN. Janet

Sunday October 5, 2008, 3:15 am
No governments listen because the world is ruled by petrol companies by there greed and blackmail I feel sad for our children and grand children who will have to live on this trashed planet. this is not science fiction but reality.We have lots of alternatives energies but they do not bring the big green $

Sunday October 5, 2008, 8:01 am
We don't have to live this way! Janet is right all power will be free...
We have friends waiting to launch free energy systems now...Wake up to the Oil companies plan...Addiction and starvation...HEMP is still the most efficient biofuel there is !Corn,Soy,Canola or any GMO crap is not
even considered a biofuel because they no longer contain plant material.
For our own good ? Nutition was engineered out of all foods ,toxins and mind control compounds were engineered in.For Example...When was the last time you or any animals body assimilated CORN?Taste,colour and appearance are easily engineered into all of our foods giving the illusion of Healthy.
Corn is no longer registered or patented as a PLANT!!!!Corn currently is
registered in Global patents as a pesticide and a herbicide.No wonder we can't properly digest corn it's POISON.

Wake up and free yourself and our Earth...Become aware of the alternatives...Do not fear the NWO, their Game is over...we know it...
They know it...Take back your country and your Earth NOW!Create a better
future for all inhabitants of our shared space...Get Conscious...

The future of Food or Energy is not by cutting more Rainforest or land to grow more food for animals,but to reforest the Earth,let the natural or organic(non GMO)plants(fruits and Nuts) take over again.We must replenish the microbial infrastructure that is free energy...back into our Earth.
Once the life forces are restored into our planet and our food we will need less to sustain us.If we didn't waste a lot of energy processing the lifeless foods we eat now we wouldn't have starvation.

The Future of Food(sustenance)will be our return to the past...Before our DNA was altered turning us into Junk Food Addicts we fed on FREE ENERGY!
OUR Mitochondria was not designed to turn dead food into electrons as energy.Our Mitochondria was designed to utilize Free Energy...PHOTONS
or UV Sunlight just like Plants do.Evolution has provided us with means
to do this...just look at yourselves with a hand held microscope(100X)and you can see the tiny nanotubes absorbing this free energy.The NWO had never intended for us to find this out.Oh Well...too late now...Elizabeth...

Don't worry we are Infinite Beings...Get Conscious NOW...It's FREE!

Sunday October 5, 2008, 8:19 am
Thank you Janet and Mike!!! The answer to our freedom is right in front of us...all around us. The current big business and monetary system enforced by our corrupt government works against our freedom and the well-being of every person and animal on this planet. Any time a government or business operates where there are few winners AND countless losers, it is not good for us all. A good system demands a win-win for almost everyone.

We must have a system that benefits everyone, all living creatures and the planet. When we die, it should be through a natural process, not manufactured death caused by man.

We don't have to wait for government to approve an alternative energy source. If you find one you like, use it. In the meantime, cut back on gas and oil usage, ride a bike and walk more often, grow a small garden of vegetables, plant a tree, talk to your neighbors about what you are doing and help them do the same.

BE the world you want to see...one step at a time.

Sunday October 5, 2008, 12:03 pm
Once again I am amazed and deeply disappointed that the golden method of dealing with greenhouse gases, polution from liquid manure of farms, need for fuel on farms, need for safe fertilizer, etc. etc..is being totally ignored by mainline activists as well as the companies that have so much to lose if this 'secret' is broadly known. This is Methane Digesters. Not production of ethanol from plants. Capturing of already occuring methane (20 times more heating to the climate than carbon dioxide.). Our need for meat, eggs, etc. guarantees that there will always be animals (even us) producing, well, poop. We all do it, so do the animals. Most farms here in Canada now use the newfangled and faulty "LIquid Manure" method, the one that has manure made into a liquid form in great open containers, where rain makes it run off into rivers, streams and ground water to contaminate crops like spinach that then kill people. None of this is necessary. Many Dairy farmers are now converting to a method known and used for many decades, here and in countries like India. It can be done on the smallest or largest of scales: Anaerobic (no Oxygen, or contained) digestion of manure into methane gas (which normally is just released into the atmosphere), using the methane to fuel generator that produce electricity which now can be sold back to the grid; can power all the madhines on a farm, make the farm totally energy selfsufficient, and make a profit! The end result is (due to its nature) a sterilezed fertilizer perfectly safe to spread on fields without danger of contamination, not to mention the complete eradication of the extremely noxious and dangerous odours from manure kept in liquid form and spread on fields or 'rained' off into the water supply.
Why does every solution to a problem need to be complicated for people to take notice of it?? Why do so few people even know of this 'technology'?? It has been around forever, being suppressed by energy companies of every sort... when it would solve so many problems at once without creating more, and is forever 'renewable' - remember, all creatures poop...unless they are dead. Take this as you will, but please, try googling methane digesters or anaerobic treatment of manure........the more people more people know, the less 'They' can suppress it, the more chance our environment has to recover and we can be energy self-sufficient without any oil nuclear,coal and other dirty sources.

Sunday October 5, 2008, 1:39 pm
From the Global Warming Scam,Greenhouse Gas scam,or UV or Ozone
scams the inconvenient truth is that It's ALL a scam.The only truth is that an Evolutionary process is developing in ALL of us like it or not.As Global
Consciousness increases so does our ability to conduct and convert the True Natural Energy of Photons (UV Sunlight)by our Mitochondria into Electrons.
Photons are an infinite supply of easily assimilated energy eliminating the engineered addiction to the DEAD, ZERO NUTRITION,TOXIC FOOD we force our Mitochondria to convert into energy now.

If we are to use animals as gas generators or food sources, we can help eliminate the Bio-Security issues related to harmful bacteria and toxic compounds by using Diatomaceous Earth Products.

FOOD for THOUGHT...

Sunday October 5, 2008, 4:10 pm
Ok--if Israel is the Chosen land, why is it the only tiny strip of land in that area that doesn't have oil beneath it? Furthermore, the directions given by G-D for the building of the Ark of the Covenant are the blueprint from whence Wilheim Reich took his Orgone Energy theories--and I can tell you from personal experience, they WORK! If I can grow old seeds in a tin and tea leaves layered can in a closet, with pebbles as soil, into amazing PLANTS! [2 ficus benjaminas & a pot plant]--and they just couldn't stop growing! so...I've got my personal proof...I didn't an expert to tell me. namaste! xo

Sunday October 5, 2008, 4:30 pm

and also 1991 Hugh Downs Documentary.....Hemp oil cars of Diesel & Ford
Ty janet.

Sunday October 5, 2008, 8:52 pm
Janet see augments against you here
http://forums.permaculture.org.au/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=6031&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=15
M

Tuesday October 7, 2008, 10:59 am
The problem is that the majority of humans are nothing but zombies, and as such, very easy to manipulate!
This applies to so much more than this issue...!

The masses behave as a collective 'individual'. Therefore people and organizations on top of 'the hierarchy', aware of this, control humans and make them act as they wish - like puppets.

The question is: how much longer will it take for people to wake up and react?
We're reaching the point of global rupture... things are breaking down everywhere and the financial crisis and, essentially, the environmental crisis are just the beginning!

Either we do something about it right now and alert people around us or we will soon face the end of our way of life! And this is not religious mambo jambo, it's my personal view of the facts!

The point is, we don't have much more time to globally do something about it, trust me!
Every little action counts!

Blessed be!

Tuesday October 7, 2008, 10:51 pm
I agree, Cid. People care about what famous person is getting married, divorced, or having children.

Ironnically, the USSR would not have put up with the petroleum corporations. If an alternative to oil worked better and cheaper, the Kremlin would start using it yesterday to build up their military and take over the world.

The irony is that the U.S. military, which is already the most powerful in world history, could be even more powerful if there is a better and cheaper alternative to oil. The military does not care about the oil companies and how much money they make.

Sunday June 7, 2009, 3:13 pm
A million stars to you if I could. Government has yielded to 'money'. Our government has been bought out. How many wars do we need to see the truth?