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Six-Year-Old Girl Handcuffed and Arrested for Throwing Tantrum at Georgia Elementary School


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Tonya
- 883 days ago - cbsnews.com
(CBS/WMAZ) MILLEDGEVILLE, Ga. - A 6-year-old elementary school student was handcuffed and arrested Friday after she allegedly threw a tantrum in class.



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michael hall (42)
Friday April 20, 2012, 5:49 am
Teach them to cower in fear by violence and terrorism early and often...Its training to be good usa citizens...
 

Tonya M. (71)
Friday April 20, 2012, 6:03 am
Join our Children's Hope and Voice / Juvenile Justice Advocacy Group at:

http://www.care2.com/c2c/group/chv

and our

Celebrate Kids (Child Welfare Advocacy Group) at:

http://www.care2.com/c2c/group/chvcelebratekids
 

Past Member (0)
Friday April 20, 2012, 6:27 am
Thanks Tonya. Care2 member Susan V has a post on this subject that has a Care2 petition with it---

http://www.care2.com/news/member/717639773/3256632
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/506/110/101/georgia-dont-handcuff-kindergartners/
Sorry I can't make a hyperlink.
 

Carol H. (229)
Friday April 20, 2012, 6:37 am
overboard!!!
 

Bill K. (23)
Friday April 20, 2012, 7:19 am
just because there's a "policy" doesn't make it right.
 

Kristen H. (25)
Friday April 20, 2012, 7:34 am
That is child abuse. Absolutely unacceptable. I hope the parents sue the pants off the school district and the police department.
 

Tiffany Caler (3)
Friday April 20, 2012, 9:30 am
If this child has a history of acting out and throwing tantrums then I COMPLETELY agree with this being done. Children, just like adults need to be taught when their behavior is unacceptable. If children go around acting like little brats, and doing whatever they please, they will never learn, and grow up doing the same. Children need to know they are responsible for their own actions.
 

Ioannes J. (1)
Saturday April 21, 2012, 7:18 am
Reinforcement of Behavioral disciplinary actions of a child with constant tantrum is acceptable. If child did not learn discipline, he/she could endanger society by violence, terrorism, etc as well as effect He/She mentally mind (He/ She is always right doing things for being spoil kid).
 

Heather O. (12)
Saturday April 21, 2012, 7:50 am
There is nothing wrong with teaching our kids early even in this way.. Some have parent who just don't care so its time someone take responsibility to teach kids how to behave.
 

Heather O. (12)
Saturday April 21, 2012, 7:51 am
And no Kristen it is not child abuse. The abuse here is the parents not caring or taking responsibility for their children's behavior. Not teaching kids is a poor idea. And idiots screaming child abuse is as bad as parents doing nothing to teach their kids right from wrong...
 

Vidal S. (0)
Saturday April 21, 2012, 9:27 am
I don't believe the school or police department should be allowed to treat a child like this.
 

Dandelion G. (382)
Saturday April 21, 2012, 9:52 am
Tiffany, seriously....a six year old arrested? It is people like you with this type of mindset along with the other disgusting things I see by the likes of the Ted Nugents and many of our political leaders in this Country that is turning this Country into a hateful Fascist Regime. It is that mindset that would find you happy living in places like China and Russia under Stalins rule.

At 6 years old why should it be a Police issue, except I'm more to agree with Michael h. first comment. Due to comments like Tiffany's I think we already have adults so indoctrinated, now go for the children so we have more of those type of adults existing among use. "Sieg Heil".....let us not question, let us march off in fear so we do not question, let us just follow orders and not question.
 

Elizabeth Stuef (8)
Saturday April 21, 2012, 10:26 am
The police state is here. A six year old child with behavior problems should be seeing a psychologist not a police officer and handcuffs. This is way over the top behaviour by the school. Arrest them for cruel and unusual actions. Is this the law in Georgia ?
 

. (0)
Saturday April 21, 2012, 11:41 am
Oh wow. Obviously the girl needs to have some form of punishment for what she did, but to throw her in prison and handcuff her is too extreme. And Elizabeth's post mirrors my sentiments when she states that "a six year old child with behavior problems should be seeing a psychologist not a police officer and handcuffs. This is way over the top behaviour by the school".

If anything, imprisoning her would lead to more problems. By the time she is let out of jail, I would imagine she would become more defiant and would have been extremely traumatized.
 

Evelyn M. (43)
Saturday April 21, 2012, 11:51 am
Shocking!
 

Bette M. (91)
Saturday April 21, 2012, 12:02 pm
kristen h......The so called parents are most likely the reason this kid went beszerk. This kids need a special school & the parents need to take parenting classes.

Wherever you go there once was a forest.
Plant & protect Danny's trees for life.
Trees are the lungs of the earth.
 

Allan Yorkowitz (453)
Saturday April 21, 2012, 12:06 pm
Georgia's education system and civilian laws belong in a country by itself.
 

jodi m. (37)
Saturday April 21, 2012, 12:14 pm
Crazy!
 

Billie C. (2)
Saturday April 21, 2012, 1:00 pm
teachers aren't allowed to hold kids down. they risk losing their jobs and being charged with a crime. the school tried to stop the kid and get in touch with her parents. they didn't answer so the police were called. the cops tried to calm her down and also call the parents. when all that failed she was placed in handcuffs and taken to the police station. she was never in a cell. the girls parents admit she has tantrums at home also. my guess is that's how she gets her way. the kid needs counseling and not to be allowed in a classroom with other kids until she's proven to be safe. she could have really hurt somebody bad.
learning how to behave begins at home and this kid wasn't taught that so now we have this mess. the school and the cops did what they had to.
 

Robert O. (12)
Saturday April 21, 2012, 2:02 pm
Talk about overreacting. She's 6 years old for goodness sakes! Yes discipline does begin a home and parents should do what they can, but regardless of how she acted the type of action that was taken certainly doesn't fit and seems more reactive than constructive. That seems to be a concept (among others) obviously lost on Tiffany Caler, Bette M. and Billie C. Going further on the points michael h and Dandelion made, it's frightening indeed since a "shut up and obey" type of ideology is dangerous to the people and one the Republicans are obviously advocating as evidenced by their anti-choice, anti-women, anti-middle class, anti-equality legisation and ideologies. Soon we won't be a democracy but a dictatoship complete with it's very own armed Gestapo.
 

Kate Kenner (200)
Saturday April 21, 2012, 2:14 pm
What she needs is help. She is either raised by people who do not set limits or it is a cry for help. HAndcuffs are a bit over the top. the school needs to find out what is going on in her life to deal with this problem. She is 6, not a serial killer, but she does need help now.
 

Jene B. (8)
Saturday April 21, 2012, 2:41 pm
Shocking! How can anyone begin to justify such actions against a child that age?
 

Roseann D. (178)
Saturday April 21, 2012, 2:43 pm
A school that can't handle a six-year old wouldn't have my child in their charge. I hope all the parents pull their kids out or demand a complete overhaul of the school.
 

. (0)
Saturday April 21, 2012, 3:11 pm
Disgusting! Handcuffing a child is child abuse! Simple!!!
 

Marlene Dinkins (233)
Saturday April 21, 2012, 3:13 pm
imposible how com they do not arrest the dog and animals killer?????????? this is so patheri!!!!!!c
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday April 21, 2012, 3:16 pm
She is just a baby, we need to help her who wants too petition them!
 

. (0)
Saturday April 21, 2012, 3:22 pm
I agree with so many of you here. This was a matter for the school to deal with and her parents of course. The parents get the damn call not the police who obviously have a sick agenda in GA and that is more than obvious! I am so pissed over this that I would seriously pound the hell out of the arresting dick!!!!
 

. (0)
Saturday April 21, 2012, 3:25 pm
Dandelion G-I will respond to your personal message form the other day just as soon as I can access my personal messages again.
 

Gloria picchetti (290)
Saturday April 21, 2012, 3:31 pm
If the parents can't send a six year old to school without the child harming herself, others, & property then it's a police matter. If the teachers had restrained her obviously they would have been arrested for using excessive force. Teachers don't go to college to get arrested over bad parents and/or very seriously mentally ill children.
I see from another comment here I am not the only one who cannot reply to messages.
 

Phyllis P. (413)
Saturday April 21, 2012, 5:22 pm
Arrest, no. Discipline and counseling to find out the root of this acting out absolutely. Remember, this 6 year old did some damage and also hurt someone. My son and daughter in law are a principal and a teacher. You don't understand some of the things they have to put up with. And they shouldn't have to.

 

Myron Scott (70)
Saturday April 21, 2012, 8:12 pm
Any half-way competent school should have people on staff who are properly trained to handle a situation like this without police ever even being called. As far as I can tell, the school - at least whoever called the cops - is incompetent, the cops are stupid scum, and both are scum. What right did the police have to make an arrest. Probable cause that the six year-old committed WHAT crime? Felonious tantrum with intent to damage property?

BTW, my wife is a fulltime, middle school special needs instructional assistant and I am a special needs subs working primarily with children with autism and children with severe behavioral control issues, Pre/K-8.
 

Edith B. (141)
Saturday April 21, 2012, 9:13 pm
Myron, I tried to send you a green star, can't tonight, can't access my messages either. I agree with those of you who think this was atrocious. A six year old child should NEVER have been arrested and handcuffed. Where were the school counselors?
 

Carmen S. (611)
Sunday April 22, 2012, 12:23 pm
handcuffing a six year old? what next? thanks Tonya
 

JL A. (275)
Sunday April 22, 2012, 12:53 pm
I guess kids are expected to behave like adults and thus the adult sanctions even though science explains why that is not a reasonable expectation...the research seeming to link pollution to children's mental health issues (anxiety, developmental disabilities, etc.) may explain why there seems to be a growing challenge in our schools so protecting pregnant women and children from pollution may also save Americans by no longer needing to pay for law enforcement in schools?
 

Judy Apelis (0)
Sunday April 22, 2012, 2:59 pm
Are you kidding, no really??
 

Lois Jordan (56)
Sunday April 22, 2012, 3:01 pm
My kids are decades out of elementary school, but I now have grandkids attending and would be beyond shocked if the police were called out for the behavior of a 6 yr. old! "In the old days" the parents would be called---NEVER the cops. This is beyond disgusting and stupid. We actually have enough police in these cities that they can take time away from confronting REAL criminals?
 

Mary Donnelly (47)
Sunday April 22, 2012, 4:36 pm
Thanks for post. I agree with Lois Jordan.
 

Gloria Morotti (14)
Sunday April 22, 2012, 8:06 pm
Outrageous situation. Let's begin to look at the actions of police and see where they need to be curbed.
 

Karen B. (8)
Sunday April 22, 2012, 8:47 pm
This baby injured the principal, something should have been done, maybe not to that extent, she has an arrest record now. Hate to say it but SHE PROBABLY IS SPOILED, AND WHEN SHE DOESN'T GET HER OWN WAY, THIS HAPPENS.!!!!!!! IF SHE IS NOT STOPPED FROM HAVING TEMPER TANTRUMS, AT AGE SIX, SHE WILL HAVE THEM AT 9,10, YEARS OLD.!!!
 

Bette M. (91)
Sunday April 22, 2012, 9:03 pm
I wonder if the model Naomi Campbell started out like this?
Hmmmmm, some real similarities here. That mother better
revamping her mothering techniques or she will have a pint
size murderer on her hands.

Wherever you are there once was a forest.
Plant & protect Danny's trees for life.
Trees are the lungs of the earth.
 

Kenneth L. (314)
Monday April 23, 2012, 12:18 am
You can bet your boots they will be forcing psychotropic drugs on this 6 yr. old now (maybe she already was and her behavior was a result of the drugs? it's possible).
 

Parvez Zuberi (7)
Monday April 23, 2012, 2:55 am
Certainly this is not the way to indiscipline a child by hand cuffing 6 year old that shows the teachers are not trained to handle the children in her care this action of teacher will have far reaching concupiscence on the child mind
 

Quanta Kiran (65)
Monday April 23, 2012, 3:40 am
Thanks.
 

. (0)
Monday April 23, 2012, 5:25 am
Noted, thank you.
 

Tonya M. (71)
Monday April 23, 2012, 5:31 am
Thanks Olivia for the links to the petition and to the Care2 news announcing the petition.

I've added them on the advocacy threads for this girl both on the Juvenile Justice Advocacy Group at:

http://www.care2.com/c2c/groups/disc.html?gpp=30215&pst=1555205&reply=1#1555207

and on "Celebrate Kids", our child welfare advocacy group at:

http://www.care2.com/c2c/groups/disc.html?gpp=31929&pst=1366798&reply=1#1366801

Thanks again!

(I'm on my way to reading the rest of the replys here and to send you all some green stars. Thanks for posting! Feel free to come over and keep up with this child's advocacy at our groups linked above!)
 

Tonya M. (71)
Monday April 23, 2012, 6:55 am
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News: Six-year-old girl handcuffed and arrested for throwing tantrum at Georgia elementary school


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Ben Oscarsito (336)
Monday April 23, 2012, 7:04 am
Handcuffing a six year old girl...??? -Un-freaking-believable, that's what it is!
 

Jason S. (57)
Monday April 23, 2012, 8:48 am
thanks
 

Jhn Wzt (3)
Monday April 23, 2012, 9:09 am
wow she must b strong thn since they culdnt handle her :)but had to cuff her wow y not pull a gun on her or taser her as well since she was so "dangerous"? pathetic
 

Lindsay Kemp (1)
Monday April 23, 2012, 9:24 am
Throwing a tantrum might be bad behaviour even for a 6 year old, but this sort of treatment is way over the top, and as others have said, abuse. Are teachers not trained to deal with this sort of situation? If not, they should be! And appropriate provision should be made in the school for dealing with children who are out of control. Parents, too, might need appropriate help in dealing with their children in some instances. Handcuffs and charging children has no place in a civilised society!
 

Brenda Burks (1)
Monday April 23, 2012, 9:40 am
PEOPLE-GET A GRIP PLEASE
 

Dave C. (214)
Monday April 23, 2012, 12:03 pm
so sickened by this story!
 

Janet B. (36)
Monday April 23, 2012, 12:17 pm
I will say this again!!! FUTURE OF THIS CHILD IS JUVENILE COURT!!!!!!!!!!! parents are not parenting! If I ever did those things that she pulled!!!!! God help me!!! She is doing a lap a mile around her parents, teachers, and everyone! Let's with what I can get away with, and more! Paralegal for over 20 Yeats.
 

Janet B. (36)
Monday April 23, 2012, 12:23 pm
Long day Care2. Sorry, but very passionate about law and I call it mixed up order. I have been a paralegal for over 20 years! Seen, and heard it all! No judge will give this child sympathy! They are over whelmed, and just tired of taking care of children, and people who will not change their lousy behaviors! This is what happens with people who are not educated, and keep on having babies with no intent of taking care of them!
 

Bette M. (91)
Monday April 23, 2012, 1:07 pm
Thank you Janet B. and I agree!!!!!!!
This pint size monster will someday
become your newest BULLY!!
When she lets loose again she will
most likely resort to near murder.
I went to school with one just like
her & she eventually went to prison,
and she was black.
And, don't even think of calling me a
racist. Do you recall the case of the
young boy who was battered to death
in his schoolyard by a gang of blacks
who hit him over & over again with a board
that had nails stuck out of it? This poor
child & the gang of thugs were all black!!
The press & news stations shut it up
so fast so as not to scare people to death
that their child could be next!!! They murdered
him because he was an honor student
and a good kid.

Finally, being poor or black is no excuse
for this kind of behavior. It does not cost
a dime to teach children what respect & good
behavior is.
Janet......All to often teenyboppers & even older
women spit these babies out like rats, rabbits &
roaches never mind teaching them a dam thing
about manner, respect or how to be civil.


Wherever you are there once was a forest.
Plant & protect Danny's trees for life.
Trees are the lungs of the earth.
 

Nancy M. (201)
Monday April 23, 2012, 1:29 pm
I think this is outrageous that a six year old would be handcuffed. She needed a time out. Nothing more from the little that is in the article.
 

Marianna Molnar Woods (9)
Monday April 23, 2012, 1:31 pm
THANKS
 

Bette M. (91)
Monday April 23, 2012, 1:35 pm
Nancy M. The kid would have kicked
holes in the walls & put her fist through
a glass window.
She needs professional help as well as the mother.

Wherever you are there once was a forest.
Plant & protect Danny's trees for life.
Trees are the lungs of the earth.
 

Nancy M. (201)
Monday April 23, 2012, 1:38 pm
Bette, I truly don't necessarily see that based on what is in this particular article. I agree that she probably does have some kind of issues that need to be dealt with. Handcuffing her and taking her to jail isn't going to help this situation nor is suspending her till August.
 

Brian M. (155)
Monday April 23, 2012, 1:42 pm
Discipline begins at home. Most parents let their kids run wild...and then they're surprised when authorities treat them like animals.

"CBS affiliate WMAZ reports that according to the police report, the girl tore items off the walls and threw furniture. The report also says the girl knocked over a shelf that injured the school principal." The child at that point was clearly a threat to herself and others. Would anyone prefer if she had gone on long enough to cause serious harm to other children?

Her parents should be arrested for failing to do their job.
 

Emma S. (227)
Monday April 23, 2012, 2:06 pm
Thank you, Tonya - and Olivia for flagging up Susan's link to the petition.
 

Rosemary Rannes (634)
Monday April 23, 2012, 2:36 pm
Something is very very disturbing about this scenario and i am not referring to this little 6 year old girl who threw a tantrum in school !
Children have tantrums all the time and it's up to the Principal and the teachers to respond appropriately given they are the adults!
This little girl was upset by someone or something and because she was ignored or not listened to appropriately initially by her teacher, her anger was allowed to escalate out of control.
When our children go to school they are in the 'care' of those adults paid to educate them!

This story is completely outrageous and IF I were her parents, I would get a lawyer and sue the school citing psychological damage, and ditto to the police force.
And YES! There should be a law in place that would prevent the police from putting a child in handcuffs ... WHAT THE H_ _ _ ! COME ON !!!!!!

This little girl will now need some counseling to help her ! Traumatized by being handcuffed by the police her fears and insecurity have now been elevated and her sensibilies involving trust totally tossed too far for her to grasp!
I feel so badly for this little girl !

Our schoolboards hire abusive teachers standing by them over distressed students every day. Teachers ignore situations because they either can't be bothered, usually the case, and /or know nothing about child psychology precluding them assessing correctly a child or children demonstrating a 'tantrum' or other similar scenario.

What about kids taking knives and guns to school? Sure it happens! Why? If a child feels bullied or threatened or if a child has aggression issues for example, as we have heard on the news, their personal agenda when not checked either by a parent or teacher, will result in tragedy!

I'm just saying ........ parents, open your eyes, listen to your child .... people we know our children need guidance ! Let's do that ... for them, it doesn't matter if they are 'yours' or not ... just be there for a child in need!

At my grandaughters school I see and hear and intervene often! Having discussions with other children and teachers and the school principal is something we cannot afford to ignore.
We need to teach all our children well, beginning with love and understanding in the home. Acceptance for who they are leads to self esteem !
They are the next generation and deserve a hand up at every possible juncture.
If you ask a child "can I help you" sometimes they will say no, and that's o.k. because they need to find the answer, the way for themselves in order to develope properly. But there is that moment when they may come to you to ask for help, or just have that look in their eyes that lets you know they need you to help them!
 

Ms Noting Commentator (22)
Monday April 23, 2012, 4:21 pm
I read this yesterday. I believe I also signed a petition. I think Jim J. forwarded the article and the petition for this little girl's benefit.

 

. (2)
Monday April 23, 2012, 6:28 pm
For the sake of children.................................

We must not quit.
 

Gloria H. (88)
Monday April 23, 2012, 8:25 pm
so glad I quit teaching! Ever try to put a small 9 pound cat into a carrier to go to the vet? Just cause the kid is 6 doesn't mean she was a light weight, and not inflict physical harm. Human bites are serious. I'll take my chances with cats.
 

Francie R. (0)
Tuesday April 24, 2012, 4:58 am
As a special educator (22 years) that has been assaulted, had surgeries, and continues to rehabilitate from injuries, I deal with a variety of middle school students. Over the years, some have that injured other students, adults, thrown chairs, tipped over desks, bitten, scratched &/or yelled during their melt-downs AKA tantrums. NEVER did this warrant a ride in a police car! It is my job & the job of my Special Education Technicians to 'read' behavior and try to predict it. Behavior Support Plans are implemented as appropriate. If they're not in Special Ed, a 504 plan can be drawn up. Challenging behaviors require a positive outlook & plan for success.
I understand the need to remove other students from danger. I also know that more attention during a meltdown is fuel for the fire.
 

Rose NoFWDSPLZ (273)
Tuesday April 24, 2012, 5:33 am
SICK ABUSE
 

Cynthia Davis (340)
Tuesday April 24, 2012, 6:30 am
When I was in first grade one of my class mates throw fits like this everyday and no one knew what to do with her. After two weeks of disturbance of our class room they put her in another class. After that she was fine. After she left our teacher found someone else to pick on....me, one day she even slapped me in the face because I forgot my reading book. I never told my mother because I was afraid of the teacher. My first grade teacher was the meanest woman on the face of the earth and we all had a new teacher before the year had ended. My point is that 6 year old's don't always no what to do when facing a mean adult, some act up and other clam up, but they don't always tell what the real problem is. It's up to the adults to be adults and find out what is going on with this child rather then assuming the child is spoiled and call the police to come and arrest her. You can't always blame the parents and the child for being spoiled. There is more hear then meets the eye and hand cuffs are not the answer.
 

Terrie Williams (770)
Tuesday April 24, 2012, 9:58 am
I signed the petition yesterday in private email. Noted and posted to FB yesterday. Our society is breaking down and allowing the Fascist sociopaths to take it over and this is what happens to little children who have temper tantrums........please. How sick and twisted is that?!
 

Dandelion G. (382)
Tuesday April 24, 2012, 10:31 am
I very much agree with you Cynthia. This child is in need of help and handcuffs is not the answer. But it seems in this Fascist society as Terrie points out, that instead of helping the child, finding out what the true issue is, the iron boot or hand comes down.

Also as Kenneth eludes to, how much of this negative behaviour is caused due to our children being given too many chemicals and vaccinations? We are filling their little bodies with all sorts of crap in the foods and bodies which no one seems to be considering. So when their little bodies and minds act out, again, instead of finding the real reason, just throw them in jail.

Jail and prison seems to fix everything in this society, or so we are told. We have the most prisoners in the world and yet we are told on the other hand what a wonderful Country we are. Well which is it? Why do we treat our mentally ill with prison instead of Universal Health Care where they might actually get help. I'm so disgusted with the way this society is going. Certainly parents need to do their part of the responsible taking care of their child, but despite their best efforts how does one combat this chemical soup our childrens bodies are being subjected to?
 

Jim Phillips (3209)
Tuesday April 24, 2012, 11:14 am
Petition above signed.

LINK: http://www.thepetitionsite.com/506/110/101/georgia-dont-handcuff-kindergartners/

Once again, the State of Georgia shows its true colours... Utter stupidity... and insensitivity...

Ty, Tonya & Dandelion.
.
 

pam w. (191)
Tuesday April 24, 2012, 1:31 pm
None of us were there and we don't know what REALLY happened. The image of a six-year-old child in handcuffs, being transported in the back of a police car is VERY hard to imagine. Everyone involved here needs help.
 

Tonya M. (71)
Tuesday April 24, 2012, 1:42 pm
I am a mother of eight children (four biological and four "bonus" i.e. step-children). Most are now grown and living independently. When my oldest was about 3 years old he started throwing terrible temper tantrums at home. This occurred after I had seperated from my husband and my mother-in-law no longer babysat for me. We had moved into an apartment of our own so there had been a lot of transition.

I was a loving and caring mother who held an AAS degree in Early Childhood Education. I had spent my life babysitting other people's children because I was a natural around them and no matter who came to visit our house while I was growing up or no matter where our family went to visit, parents always asked me to watch their children because I interacted so well with them.

Not only do I believe the transition affected my son but also children are extremely in tuned to the slightest stressors parents are facing indicated by babies crying when mom or dad has had a hard day or younger children throwing terrible temper tantrums or older teens getting into trouble both inside and outside the home.

At that time I was very stressed and distraught as I was facing the end of my marriage, loss of the children's father in their lives, and the loss of the ideal I had wanted my future to hold as a loving wife and mother.

In addition, since my son was an infant he had suffered with extreme stomach problems of which I was constantly seeking medical help. I kept saying to the doctor that I believed my son was allergic to milk. Lactose Intolerance was not well known at that time.

I tried everything when my son would have these outbursts. I tried disciplining him and yes, spanking was included. Every negative punishment only escalated the situation.

There were some days I just gave up on everything I was ever told or taught and when he had his meltdowns I just sat on the floor where ever he was at and no matter what I was doing, picked him up, held him on my lap and cuddled him and rocked him like a baby. It ALWAYS calmed him. I followed my instinct and it was right every time.

It was only after I got him calm could I address his ill behavior. I could even discipline him at that point.

Ultimately, I found that warding off the ill behavior before it ever started by making sure he was rested and had enough sleep, not pushing his emotional limits by making sure my agenda for the day always took into account how much he could handle, etc.

I have babysat children who behaved terribly, as well. Babysitters tend to get the kids that nobody else wants. A lot of the time they aren't functioning in a normal classroom or daycare setting so the individual babysitter gets them.

I've had to sit on the floor and hold a child on my lap with my legs crisscrossed over theirs so they couldn't kick and my arms going over their shoulders and crisscrossing their arms so they couldn't hit, knock things over, pinch, etc.

I've had to do all that while holding my head as far to one side as possible because inevitably the child will then start to try to head butt you. I've suffered busted lips because of it.

A few times, I contemplated the thought "What else can I do? Should I call the cops now? When the cops show up will this child straighten up right away at their mere presence?" But, that was when I was blind to what getting the police involved curtails.

At one time, I thought that the police, judges and prosecutors were kind-hearted people with the best interest of their fellow citizens in mind. I thought they were the good guys who chose a life of service to others because they wanted to better their society and help others. I thought they had giving hearts.

I was wrong.

Each has their own agenda and do not care about the actual individual person who is being complained about. The criminal justice system is a business. Plain and clear. It takes money to pay the salaries, put gas in the cars, pay the secretaries and other staff such as the cleaning crew, etc. in addition to keeping on the lights and paying for the heat and electricity. They need criminals which are nothing more than clients or customers.

Crime is big business...for the police, attorneys on both sides, judges, their prospective staff, and more.

Although, I have been in situations where I began to wonder "Should I call the police? To get help for this child, to protect myself in the event this child gets injured while I'm trying to save him/her from getting injured or from injuring others including myself", I have learned the answer is a resounding "No way!"

If an entire school full of teachers and school administration staff DOES NOT have the trained skills, belief in themselves, or permission to handle a child out of control, then they have no business having ANY child in their care.

If our schools are so large they are not able to tend to each and every child, then they are too large.

Our schools corral our children like cattle. Children are herded not guided.

The staff is minimal and are not able to develop the one to one interpersonal relationship which valuable bonding would foster.

Our society is all about self. Children rarely (if at all) have the quality, quiet times with others such as a parent or grandparent which would develop a sense of personal connection to another human being.

Instead, everybody is individually engrossed with violent and sexualized images and suggestions from a wide range of technology. By focusing our attentions on everything else, we are not focusing on each other. Kids today have a hard time just sitting with a small group or one on one just to play a simple card game or board game without bickering or sarcastic remarks cutting each other down, damaging each other's self esteem.

Some children just can not function in the institutionized settings we force upon them.

Humans are not designed to be just another number. They need each other. We society members are the makers of our own children's behaviors.

In this particular case, we do not know how the parents are treating this child. We don't know what all they have tried. We don't know if they are crying themselves out of frustration of knowing what to do. We don't know what type of situation the child is in at school. We don't know whether this child is being bullied by the teacher or another child. We don't know if this child's behavior is due to medications, food allergies, or if its because she's being abused in some manner.

What we do know is that she is communicating in the only way she knows how. Whether that is due to the parents or due to the school environment, we don't know.

The school is filled with so-called experts that should have the combined expertise to say this child cannot function in this setting. Here are the referrals to appropriate psychological care. We will do our part to ensure this child gets every oppurtunity to develop into a functioning, citizen.

By this school, any school, calling the police on a child, they are sending a message they are incompetent and incapable of caring for a child, any child.
 

Tonya M. (71)
Tuesday April 24, 2012, 2:28 pm
By the way, my son turned out great! He was a successful star in high school being involved in soccer, wrestling, football, track, a few school plays, Chess Club, the Air Force Junior ROTC and I can't even remember what all else.

He attended Liberty University, a Christian Baptist school, his first year and has been working and going to school since.

He just got married last weekend to his darling wife and they plan on moving so he can attend a seminary school. He has interest in joining the Air Force as a chaplain.

He had some bumps along the way and NO CHILD is perfect. They ALL have their issues. But, its our job as the ones who gone on before to lead the way to those who follow. That is our duty as the adults bringing up the child.
 

Aimee A. (177)
Tuesday April 24, 2012, 3:27 pm
Wow! Just WOW! Thanks for posting!
 

Justina Gil (0)
Tuesday April 24, 2012, 3:45 pm
Should've been punished not arrested!
 

Cate S. (7)
Tuesday April 24, 2012, 5:47 pm
Thank you Tonya. I totally agree. Your story of your son is wonderful - so hopeful. FOr those of you who have a faith, I suggest we all prayer for this little girl, for her family & for all those involved in this situation. Arrests and handcuffs are not the answer.
 

Tal H. (8)
Tuesday April 24, 2012, 6:32 pm
Come on...all children throw tantrums...wtf??
 

Maher A. (0)
Wednesday April 25, 2012, 1:28 am
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Tonya M. (71)
Wednesday April 25, 2012, 7:30 am
New blog post at WordPress: My Take on Arrested, Cuffed 6-year-old Kindergartener

http://childrenshopeandvoice.wordpress.com/

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Lindsey Williams (234)
Wednesday April 25, 2012, 7:53 am
I read about this a few days ago too. Un-freaking-believable.
 

Gene Jacobson (252)
Wednesday April 25, 2012, 8:45 am
Okay, first, 6 year olds cannot control their own behavior or impulses. This does not justify putting them in handcuffs - that is abuse all by itself. Second, some children are subjected to such horrible stressors, abuse, neglect, lack of parental involvement or nurturing at home, that they cannot possibly be expected to act "normal" anywhere else. A full assessment of this child and her home environment is needed to find out if possible what sociological causes are in play. Third, we have been poisoning our air, water and ground since the late 1940's - the physical effects of those acts will be felt for generations. When I was a child, I didn't even know anyone with asthma or allergies, now half the kids in any classroom are afflicted. WE, did that. DDT did that, along with a host of other poisons we dumped without having a clue as to their long term effects. DDT has been banned for a very long time yet we are still seeing these horrible conditions in children - so global warming deniers - it is not crying wolf to say it will take a long time to recover from what we are doing still to the planet. Fourth, my youngest son was much like Tonya's. His tantrums were legend and began virtually at birth. As he got older, the only thing that worked was to hold him close, not talk, just let him know he was loved, until I could feel his little body relax (he'd be stiff as a board in the middle of one of those) and we could then talk about what happened and how to prevent it.

But parents HAVE to play an active role in this. And I see far too many, in public, whose idea of parenting is to yell, scream, hit and throw the child around. In full view of other adults, what do you suppose those children's home lives are like? We need to spend a lot more money caring for, as well as educating our children, and recognize that they face unique challenges that earlier generations did not. The immense array of childhood diseases testifies to the changes from my generation to this one - autism? Didn't exist in the 50's and 60's, or one never heard of it. Now one in 110 children will have it. These special challenges, physical, mental, emotional need special care and treatment. Warehousing them in over crowded classrooms with no resources isn't the answer. Neither is standardized testing. There is nothing about these kids lives that is standard, how on earth do you expect them to perform or behave according to a standard that has no relevance to their lives at all? No child left behind? Pthhh. EVERY child left behind because even the most gifted are affected by the behavior and conditions around them. Allowing the 1% to segregate their children in cloistered halls does nothing for all of the others who need more help than our educational system can give them, our educational system which is woefully underfunded and anything but equal from district to district and state to state. We, the people, are the cause here. Not out of control six year olds.
 

Past Member (0)
Wednesday April 25, 2012, 10:08 am
Ths is 'training', young people are trained to accept the Police State.
"Drug Rehab" in certain Christian Churches is a part of this movement.
My state enforces "Go to Church or Go to Jail" laws.
The laws are kept 'off the books' because they are unconstitutional, they violate the establishment clause of the Consttution. But, ask anyone who has been exposed to the system; these laws are enforced every day.
This governmen has become oppressive and should be rebelled against.
"Occupy" is not enough, we need a complete erasure of the present system.
Those who work for this government will never give up their powers voluntarily.
If a generation is raised without rights, they never realize they are being cheated of their freedoms.
Grow some America, never vote for any incumbent.
 

Myron Scott (70)
Thursday April 26, 2012, 8:01 am

For those who've read the tea leaves and predict that this girl
definitely will become a bully, I have an even more horrifying
thought. She may become principal of a school like this one.
 

Myron Scott (70)
Thursday April 26, 2012, 8:10 am
More simply put:

TEACHERS! Leave these kids alone! (Cops, too.)
 

Tonya M. (71)
Friday April 27, 2012, 5:58 am
Thanks for all the wonderful comments, folks.

Gene J. you have some really great feedback!

Thanks for sharing, everybody. Keep this story circualting!

______________________________________________________

Unfortunately, this 6 yr old girl has not been the first. Check these out:

Cop Zip Ties hands and feet of 5 yr old Boy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqFU6mRWYr0

Five year old girl arrested.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_Ig34hQQXo&feature=results_main&playnext=1&list=PLC7A78FE125D39E60

Fla Mom Has 5 Yr Old Son Mock Arrested To Teach Him Lesson
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmwB7lBeF9I&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PL7AC7B1B4BC4CCA8A

Library Sends Cops To 5-Year-Old's House For Overdue Books
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDWphRRHXwE

Cops Arrest 12-Year-Old Girl For Doodling "I Love My Friends" On School Desk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAWZUD7hgF8&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PL36219D0382FD0124

Cop Tasers 10-Year-Old Girl For Refusing Bedtime
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5YqND_pKzE&feature=relmfu

Officer Beats Special Ed Kid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HU5fAGOVvEM&feature=related

15 yr old Teen girl in jail beating video speaks out on cop attacking her in Police brutality case
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDzQ8Vay3Pg&feature=related

Police Brutality with a 10 year old native girl and her father at hotel in winnipeg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-KCmeCcCWA&feature=related

Cops Breaks Three Teeth in Teens Mouth
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdY5220cI4U&feature=related

9 year old boy tasered by police for not going to school
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vs4KnBGfC0w

8 Year Old Suspended For Drawing Jesus On Cross
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yH-fFJuXHIQ&feature=relmfu

9 Year Old Suspended For LEGO Toy w/ Gun?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5IvY0JGiW4&feature=relmfu

Boy Arrested for Burping in Class
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1w9h2S4UWA

There's more but I'm just too tired to continue posting them. It's time we wake up and see what is happening in America. Get informed! Get involved! Stop the madness.
 

Tonya M. (71)
Friday April 27, 2012, 7:40 am
Here's ANOTHER ONE from April 26, 2012!

http://www.care2.com/news/member/489749332/3283943
 

g d c. (0)
Sunday April 29, 2012, 9:40 am
handcuffed and arrested...

does handcuffed really mean the girl was restrained so she would not be able to hurt herself or others?
does arrested really mean the girl was removed from school premises so har actions and others reactions would not traumatize the other hundreds of students and teachers at the school?
 

Bette M. (91)
Sunday April 29, 2012, 10:16 am
iii q........Yes.
Had the teacher oor principle laid a
a hand on her the so called mother
might have used the incident to gain
money by way of a law suit.....
Trying to talk & calm down a kid like this
can be very difficult at times.

Wherever you are there once was a forest.
Plant & protect Danny's trees for life.
Trees are the lungs of the earth.
 

Myron Scott (70)
Sunday April 29, 2012, 3:14 pm
iii.Q.: I think the treatment of children is a little too important
to play the usual word games to which our public discourse has
declined. Acting Police Chief Draw Swicord used the words
"handcuffed" and "taken in handcuffs to the police station" in his
official statement, according to multiple mainstream media
sources. Being taken, without giving one's consent, to a police
station clearly is an "arrest," no matter what happens later.
See, e.g.:
http://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-procedure/arrest.html

BTW, Acting Chief Swicord's initial explanation for the
handcuffing was simply that handcuffing is the standard
policy of the Milledgeville Force whenever a "detainee" is
placed in a police car. He said nothing about the safety of the
little girl or others.

I doubt that the Milledgeville Police receive any special
training in handling Kindergartners. I do not believe police
should ever be put in the position of having to do so. Nor can
I see why the school administrators and teachers couldn't
have done what the police ultimately did, according to Mr.
Swicord: place the girl in an isolated room and give her
something to drink while they continued their efforts to
reach a parent, relative or other guardian. This suggests to
me that the school was incompetent to handle the foreseeable
situation of a child throwing a tantrum. Perhaps that is less
the fault of the school, however, than of the entire community
or even state government. However that may be, what
happened is unacceptable, and this incident should lead all
communities and their schools to consider whether they are
prepared to do better. It shouldn't be swept under the rug with
word games, scapegoating the parents or any other
rationalization.
 

holly masih (64)
Monday April 30, 2012, 10:49 am
I do not agree with handcuffing a 6 year old,but let's think for a moment why this may have come to such an extreme,ok.It is unreasonable to blame the child here-children will act according to how they are being raised.The parents obviously are not teaching her how to act civilized at home.You send this child who has no home training to school,and they are not allowed to do anything about it when they act out,for fear of a lawsuit being filed.This kid was not just throwing a tantrum,she tipped over a bookshelf onto someone,and she was physically attacking people.If the teacher wants to prevent her from hurting otheres,but is afraid of getting into trouble because of govt overregulation,she/he may have felt that there was no alternative.Parents need to start being parents,schools need to have the authority to discipline them,and the govt and child protective services needs to stay the f*** out of personal and family life,and you will not need to call the cops on 6 year olds.
 

Myron Scott (70)
Tuesday May 1, 2012, 12:30 am
Some commentors have mentioned that sometimes even very
young children need to be restrained, for their own safety as
well as that of others. As I've previously documented, I have
some personal experience with both public schools, as a special
needs aide, and law; and I agree that isolation and sometimes
even restraint can be required as a last resort (only as a last
resort). I know schools that still maintain such policies and
practices without excessive legal problems. A school needs
district support to develop reasonable policies and established
nonviolent practices to accommodate this reality, all school staff
(including substitute teachers, aides and drivers) need to be
properly parents and others of us who advocate for children
need to understand that reality, and school policies and practices
need to be explained to and accepted by parents before children
are enrolled. If a legislature chooses to require public schools to
pay for a child who is denied admission or expelled to attend a
different school, that legislature needs join in that process. If
law enforcement is ever used (apart fro, violent emergencies),
there need to be clear guidelines binding on both schools and
police and training for police. Implementation of such policies
and practices are the best defense against lawsuits. As a
lawyer, I certainly can imagine that a school could be sued
for doing exactly what the Milledgeville school did. Calling the
police for relatively minor situations does not necessarily confer
immunity on the school, nor should it.

Such policies and programs are needed, whether the children
with special needs are mainstreamed as much as reasonable
(which I support) or communities return to the bad old days
of warehousing children in special schools/reformatories.
Absent that, I still believe that the schools, and administrators
and teachers who resort to unnecessary police involvement
are incompetent, and legally liable for it.

As far as blaming the parents, I don't feel that I know enough
to do so in this case. I general, doing so does not answer the
question of how schools should deal with unacceptable
 

Myron Scott (70)
Tuesday May 1, 2012, 8:08 am
I really made a muck of the first part of my last comment by
unintentionally editing out key phrases, etc.. Sorry! Here's a
corrected version that I hope is more intelligible:

A school needs district support to develop reasonable policies and
established nonviolent practices to accommodate this reality, all
school staff (including substitute teachers, aides and drivers) need to be
properly trained in such practices, parents and others of us who advocate
for children need to understand that reality, and school policies and
practices need to be explained to and accepted by parents before children
are enrolled. If a legislature chooses to require public schools to pay
tuition for a child who is denied admission or expelled to attend a different
school, that legislature needs join in that policy implementation process. If
law enforcement is ever used (apart from violent emergencies), there
need to be clear guidelines binding on both schools and police, and special
training for police.
 

Myron Scott (70)
Tuesday May 1, 2012, 8:35 am
BTW, Francie R., who has over a decade of seniority as well as rank on me,
perfectly said what I've been trying to say.
 

Susan V. (80)
Tuesday May 1, 2012, 12:27 pm
Please see my LONG letter to the Winston Salem Journal, sent after one commentator placed blame on parents. The scenarios and causes I describe certainly do not account for all behavior problems, but they need to be part of the discussion on what can be done to prevent MANY problems.

I will link the Opinion Piece, which focuses on parent responsibility - my comments (experience and research) are pasted after that, with further links to expert information on issues I bring up. Sorry it's so long -- I left out a LOT.

(I can't seem to get the petition link right now - will paste it later)

http://www2.journalnow.com/news/opinion/2012/apr/26/wsopin02-kwame-nyerere-guest-column-training-for-d-ar-2207184/

This is a response to a commentary on your Opinion page, written by KWAME NYERERE,
about the handcuffing of the six-year-old whose behavior got out of hand. Her/his conclusion was that it’s basically the parents’ fault for not preparing their children for kindergarten.
http://www2.journalnow.com/news/opinion/2012/apr/26/wsopin02-kwame-nyerere-guest-column-training-for-d-ar-2207184/

I have a lot of experience working around children, some in the Greensboro school system, some with my own children, and with a private school, and I believe I learned some very important facts that bear on student behavior and learning experience as well. More recently my work involved visiting home day care centers participating in a food program I monitored.

Previously I did some substitute and GED teaching and then worked as an editor in a publishing company for children’s educational materials.

In this latter job, and in training for commercial art, I may have learned more about behavior in the classroom than anywhere else. In these environments I was constantly exposed to solvents, cigarette smoke, perfumes worn by employees, chemically treated papers, then later new carpet and new office furniture in a place where, like most other offices in America, Dursban (a neurotoxin pesticide) was sprayed on chairs walls (volatalizing into the air and falling everywhere - See study by Jack Leiss, Phd). I was working in a closed off box filled with a toxic soup, and within a year I was so chronically ill, irritable, angry, and in excruciating pain (had multiple severe sinus infections and neck and face spasm), completely exhausted, spasmed muscles all over my body.

I became short tempered and even acted drunk at times (I didn’t drink or do drugs) - when around the more potent solvents (all natural, normal responses I now know, but wasn’t clued in back then.) My work suffered and I missed a lot of days -- My emotions were easily triggered and I cried often, uncontrollably. I was fired. Of course the owners saw it as something wrong with ME. When I later learned the facts and tried to get compensation - just worker’s comp - their insurance company fought me. I ended up in poverty, but I continued my research at UNCG and medical hospitals. I found a book call Clinical Ecology. You can read the rest of my letter, but this book is really all you need to know - that and the information on Betty Bridges site (Fragranced Products Information Networks - and Maybe O’Doul’s book on toxicology).

By this time I developed what is called multiple chemical sensitivities, due to the string of chemical assaults. It’s not a big mystery. If you injure your back or leg a number of times, they become very vulnerable to injury and pain. If neurotoxin poisons injure your nervous system over and over, then you become vulnerable to neurotoxins - even at low levels.

Adults with chemical sensitivities can be like a lot of children, who are naturally chemically sensitive because their bodies are smaller, their detox capability is often lower, and they happen to breathe in more air at a time than adults. So they breathe in more toxins, but have less capability to metabolize and clear them from their bodies. Even within population subsets, there are those with very slow or weak metabolisms (Cytochrome P-450 - CYP-450), lacking certain liver enzymes needed to properly metabolize a chemical or drug. Clem Furlong was among those whose research showed about 15% of the total population could not metabolize Dursban (used in schools for years) and other couldn’t metabolize malathion, sprayed on the Outer Banks for decades.

Now how does this relate specifically to schools. Well, after taking some time to recover from the publishing job, I believed I’d be safe working in a school - and a private school in a small village near the Coast sounded ideal. However, although the head teacher was quite progressive about organic and health foods for children (a very important factor in dealing with chemical exposures), she did not understand at the time (she does now) or take seriously my concerns about chemical exposures in products used everyday. By this time it seems all laundry detergents were highly scented and so most of the children came to school wearing synthetically scented clothes (petroleum based) - Add to that the rage over scented fabric softeners, making the whole classroom smell like hell to me. I have no doubt this factor alone had adverse effects on some sensitive children. Then the place was treated with pesticides- I never found out exactly which brand. The children helped out every day and they were given Windex to clean the desks. The old Windex I had used in the past now had/has a “fresh scent” -- ie petroleum based neurotoxic fragrance added..

So I explained I had to ask my students to come to school fragrance free and the Windex could not be used in my room. I explained that white vinegar and hydrogen peroxide was a proven disinfectant that worked better. But no school uses this that I am aware of.

I made it through the last half of the school year mostly in pain, but dealing with the accommodation that was sporadic at best. However, when I returned in August, probably the most toxic wall paint I’d ever smelled had been used in the room next to mine. And a water from a hot water heater spill had leaked under the carpet which had brewed a whole colony of mold over the summer. For me the place became a Time Bomb - it was killing me. I didn’t have the ability to worry about how many children might have been equally affected.

My neck went into spasms that would not let up, and I was forced to take leave. The owners were angry-impatient - never understood -- saw me as some kind of aberration, whiner I suppose.
I describe my experiences to let you know that I know what I am talking about when I say that children’s ability to learn and behave properly in school can be and is constantly affected by the multiple exposures they received daily -- exacerbated by the very little amount of time they spend outdoors - with often cleaner air than in the now TIGHT BUILDINGS where classes are held. Windows no longer open -- And often (I had my children’s school tested) the fresh air input per child per cubit foot is way inadequate according to OSHA standards.

Interestingly schools often wait to paint the walls just a day or two before school starts every year, and then they never air out the building afterward, letting toxic paint fumes accumulate. Both of my children developed pneumonia within a week of returning to school one year.

It took me 3 years to get that school to tell me the truth about their pesticide use. I had to learn as I went along the diversionary and outright lying tactics used to hide the truth. I asked what they sprayed. “We don’t spray anything.” I thought “Wow, that’s great.” So I shut up. Then I learned that though “they “ don’t spray, they DO hire contractors to do so.” So I called and said I wanted to know what was sprayed .and I got the first answer again.” I said, “I know YOU don’t do it, but what is used by those who do.” “Oh it’s very good - it’s the safest thing on the market.” It was DURSBAN, by the way- so toxic, classified as a WMD, that it was banned for indoor use 5 years later. I didn’t find that out until the NEXT year when a school nurse finally took my request seriously. Then I learned they school, indoors, was sprayed on MONDAYS while students were present --- and did not air out the building afterward, so students were left to breathe and absorb into their bloodstreams via their skin and lungs that poison all week.

I don’t doubt one bit that this practice (with now different pesticide/ solvent mixes) goes on still in most schools in America, despite grassroots efforts to get it stopped. NC has passed a law, but I don’t know yet if it’s in effect or if it will be regulated.

Add to these toxic exposures mentioned above, MOLD, common in schools with poor air systems that rarely open windows or never -- along with those sickening perfumey atomizer tacked on walls in restrooms that are usually acetone based -- another neurotoxin. And factor in today’s nutrient deficient, corn syrup-based, trans fat, factory-produced - pink slimey foods, and you’ve got TIME BOMBs going off in more than a few children.

Then consider all the hyperactive children (how could they not be, in my opinion) put on Ritalin, and now other very potent psychotropic drugs with toxicity and reactive issues similar to non-drug neurotoxins (solvents, perfumes, mold, etc), and seriously, how can you not expect to have an epidemic of behavioral and learning problems?

Furthermore, to immediately suggest, often insisting, that children be put on potent brain damaging drugs BEFORE ruling out other causes, including food allergies and chemical sensitivities (as well as PTSD or some other emotional trauma) is simply pandering to the chemical industry. It’s downright ignorant, destructive, counterproductive and cruel to children and parents.

When I gathered information on pesticides used in NC schools in the 1990s I found that Sandoz, which made the chlorpyrifos (nerve poison) used in many schools, was partnered with Novartis, the maker of Ritalin.

For ANYONE to blame the parents for children’s behavior problems in school, as long as this chemical holocaust is going on, is absolutely unfair, if not absurd.

http://www.drrapp.com/ watch the video to show what food allergies alone can do and how to treat them.

http://investigativereportingworkshop.org/investigations/toxic-influence/story/epa-develops-neurotoxicants-list/

Add to the problem the fact that children are being brain damaged by use of these chemicals in the home and at the mother's workplace before they are born:
http://investigativereportingworkshop.org/investigations/toxic-influence/story/epa-develops-neurotoxicants-list/

 

Diane L. (110)
Tuesday May 1, 2012, 11:29 pm
Wow, lots of very long comments in here, and I don't have time to wade thru all of them. I do think if the circumstances were such that this girl was so violent that none of the staff could control her, that something needed to be done before she injured more people. She injured the principal, tore things from the walls and broke furniture. What if she'd broken a chair over the head of another 6-yr-old and he/she had a skull fracture or worse, died? 6-yr-olds have killed their peers in violent rages.

If the cop tried to calm her down and couldn't, then just what WAS the alternative? Maybe she should have been MACED, or shot with a tranquilier dart? I've yet to read a logical approach to her behavior that doesn't call for some kind of restraints, most of which are no less harmful than being handcuffed. Maybe they should have thrown a net over her and dragged her out?
 

Myron Scott (70)
Tuesday May 1, 2012, 11:55 pm
Well, Diane L., I took the time to read through your comment. Just not as busy as you, I guess. I understand: So many articles to fantasize on, so little time. I mean, she could have brought a semi-automatic to school and opened fire - but she didn't, did she?
 

Diane L. (110)
Wednesday May 2, 2012, 1:07 am
Yes, Myron, she could have. Because she didn't have a gun and didn't kill anyne, then she should just have a "time out" in the corner or no recess? You didn't notice she injured the Principal and that was after doing a lot of property damage.

Handcuffing a 6-yr-old for merely having a temper tantrum is one thing, but when the child is totally out of control, does damage like described and injures others, then sometimes more restraint needs to be considered. The cause can be determined later, but in the meantime, she needed to be kept from continuing to injure anyone else.

Again, suggestions on a proper way to have handled this? I haven't read any yet.
 

Myron Scott (70)
Wednesday May 2, 2012, 6:37 am
DL: You already said you couldn't waste your time reading everyone's comments;
so it's not surprising you haven't read any "proper" suggestions. You apparently
consider calling in police to handcuff a crying six year-old "proper." You and I,
among others, obviously will simply have to disagree on that proposition.

BTW: Why does it never occur to "tough love" types (I almost used a different
noun, but I'm trying to be civil) that when a child throws a tantrum or otherwise
acts out at school, it often is an attempt, precisely, to get out of the learning
environment.
 

Maria Papastamatiou (4)
Wednesday May 2, 2012, 10:43 am
Unbelievable! What next!
 

Diane L. (110)
Thursday May 3, 2012, 5:47 am
Myron, try reading what I actually did say. I came into this discussion a bit late after it was put out here, and there are dozens of very long comments. I don't have the time to read each and every one of the previous ones, but skimmed over them. I never noticed a single suggestion as to how better to have controlled this child who was physically out of control and had already injured ONE adult, done a lot of property damage and refused to calm down after being talked to by a cop.

Now you come in and tell me I'm too "lazy" I guess to read how it should have been handled? How about you informing me? "Tough Love" is one thing. Controlling a child who is throwing a raging FIT is yet another. She's just "acting out" or trying to get out of a school environment? Oh, I sure messed up then, since I had to go to school no matter how much I said I didn't want to! Geez, to think all I had to do was smash chairs and throw furniture and attack the Principal!
 

Myron Scott (70)
Thursday May 3, 2012, 11:04 am
Well, several commentors, notably several of us who actually work
with children in schools, have said that a competently staffed and
run school would have taken several appropriate measures before
hand, which most likely would have avoided the situation ever reaching
this point. Of course, if a school has done nothing in advance to
prevent and prepare for this situation yet one focuses only on the
crisis, then it's much easier to excuse the school. That just attacking
a strawman. And that is unfair and logically fallacious.

But even if one chooses to focus only on the (avoidable) crisis, then it
is very hard to excuse the police, inasmuch as the accounts I've read
indicate that the child was no longer violent by the time the police arrived.
"The girl was crying in the principal's office at Creekside Elementary
before police arrived."

So, busted for crying? Please!
 

Bette M. (91)
Thursday May 3, 2012, 1:14 pm
Myron.....The kid was busted as you say for throwing the ultimate tantrum. The kid was completely out of control & the cops were called. I assume by the time the cops showed up she had worn herself out with all she had done. And, she probably scared the daylights out of the staff & the other children.
Hopefully she was removed to a school that could deal with he behavior & clue her mother in as to what she needs to do in order to get the on the right track.

Wherever you go there once was a forest.
Plant & protect Danny's trees for life.
Trees are the lungs of the earth.
 

Myron Scott (70)
Thursday May 3, 2012, 7:33 pm
Bette, first of all, I did not and never would say Salecia threw "the ultimate
tantrum." I have too much experience with children and their tantrums for that.

I don't know why so many writers so exaggerate this Salecia's behavior.
This sort of thing simply isn't that uncommon with kids - from what I can tell,
it never was that uncommon. Get real.

She damaged property some property. Big deal, compared to damaging the
psyche of a six year-old and leaving her family adrift regarding her education.
And, OMG, the principal was "injured." How? A scratch on the forearm?
A bruised shin from being kicked. There's no mention in any of the reports of
the principal requiring medical treatment, going to a hospital, etc. Had the
"injury" been at all significant, isn't it reasonable to assume that would have
been mentioned?

I really don't know why so many strain so hard - and assume so
much - to justify handcuffing a little girl who, as you acknowledge,
apparently "had worn herself out." I can only repeat what I said
early on: The cops did nothing that the school could not have done
at that point: give her something to drink, leave her alone in a room
and continue to try to reach a parent or other adult. So, what's the
agenda behind all this rationalization?

What's the school's agenda at that point for not telling the cops
that they could handle it from there? Getting a bit of their own back?
The kind of tantrum only adults with power over others can throw.
Teaching the kid a lesson? A lesson she can't really understand at
her age. Embarrassing the parent? And treating the little girl as a
mere object in that effort.


Do you think cuffing is trivial. Have you ever been handcuffed?
Not as a party game, mind you; but by a cop or a bunch of cops.

And are there no appropriate child services agencies that the
school could have called rather than the police?

Finally, should Salecia be in a school that "could deal with her behavior?"
Yes; and Creekside Elementary SHOULD have been such a school. Any
school should be prepared to do so. That's the bottom line here; or it should be.
 

Diane L. (110)
Thursday May 3, 2012, 10:25 pm
Wow, Myron, another novel, and I have tried to read it. Honestly, you say you have all this experience dealing with kids like this girl who throw terrible tantrums, injuring school Principal's and destroying property? throwing chairs is normal behavior for kids that you are around, is it?

She was 6 years old, hardly been in school long enough for staff to know, unless this was previously exhbited behavior by HER, that this would happen. No public school should have to deal with this behavior as part of anything "normal". Unless this was a school for behaviorly challenged kids and there was a known history, your comment makes no sense. It's like saying all bank tellers should have expertise in CPR because a customer might choke on something or MIGHT fall down in there, or MIGHT have a stroke. They are bank tellers, not medical experts. Yeah, nice if they know it just "in case" (as we all should know it), but are you going to hold the bank responsible because a customer falls down from a stroke inside and has complications? Yeah, you probably would.

Okay, so "shut her in a room alone and offer her a drink"..............seriously?
 

Myron Scott (70)
Thursday May 3, 2012, 10:40 pm
Essay, maybe, DL; but not novel. I leave the fiction and wild surmise to others.

Night now.
 

Diane L. (110)
Thursday May 3, 2012, 10:47 pm
Good night, Myron. Yes, essay would "fit". As the Mother of a kid born with ADHD and which would rock incessantly,moan, rock back & forth, throw things and was even held back in Kindergarten, I'm very much aware of behavior issues, and most schools simply are not equipped to deal with one kid who has them when they have so many others to look after. It wasn't my son's fault, not mine, and certainly not the schools' fault.
 

Tonya M. (71)
Friday May 4, 2012, 7:15 am
Thanks for all the wonderful comments, everybody.

Myron, you've made some very good points. Thank you for linking documentation backing your information.

Diane L., I don't think your analogy with the bank tellers works in this case. The point is... teachers and staff working in elementary schools spend thousands of dollars and many years being trained in their specific field which is working with children just as EMT workers, doctors, nurses, etc are specifically trained in CPR and other life saving techniques so that they may be able to use those techniques in the event they come across someone who is exhibiting behaviors requiring such techniques. Just as EMT workers, doctors, nurses, ect will enevitably encounter a person requiring life saving techniques by the mere fact they place themselves in situations such as volunteering or working for a local life saving crew, doctor's office, or hospital; teachers, school administrators, school counselors, all of whom have chosen to work in a situation whereas they will encounter children, automatically sign up for the responsibility of "handling" a disruptive and/or aggressive temper tantrum throwing child. It is a fact.

The school staff and teachers calling the police department to diffuse a temper tantrum being thrown by a child is like a doctor with a PhD calling a plumber to perform CPR and electric shock therapy on their patient.

The police have not been specifically or adequtely trained to deal with children as the school staff and teachers have. It's not brain surgery. If it were I'd have to call a brain surgeon, not a circus clown.
 

Diane L. (110)
Sunday May 6, 2012, 2:35 am
Well, Tonya, we'll just have to agree to disagree there. I think in this case, calling the cops was their only option. This kid was exhibiting violent behavior. What would YOU suggest, a zoo keeper? Maybe call fish & wldlife and dart her? She was 6 years old, in elementary school. Why should elementary school teachers be proficient in defusing violent behavior, unless this was a school for NOT normal, average kids? I guess if you were a person trained to be a "vet tech" in a small animal clinic, should you also be able to handle exotics such as lions and tigers? Maybe the school should have called "Dr. Oz" or yes, Myron!
 

Tonya M. (71)
Monday May 7, 2012, 4:29 am
The school counselor and the parents.
 
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