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World  (tags: humanrights, gaza, jewish, anti-semitism, truth )

Just
- 1668 days ago - opednews.com
"I am a Jew and I am outraged and ashamed by the acts Israel has perpetrated. I am not a self hating Jew, not an anti-semite, as some religious extremist Jews have accused me and other Jews who criticize Israel."



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Teresa W. (707)
Wednesday June 2, 2010, 11:27 am
Thank you. I'm NOT Jewish, but I'm glad to see there are Jews who oppose the Israeli government's apartheid policy.
 

Ben Oscarsito (358)
Wednesday June 2, 2010, 11:43 am
Thanks Carole!
I have been boycotting Israeli goods since 1973, and it feels just fine.
 

Barb Knight (1684)
Wednesday June 2, 2010, 11:45 am
Thnx *C* !! Jesus was crucified for being a Jew but Jewish people are good and I hate what's happening to them.
 

Dalia H. (1280)
Wednesday June 2, 2010, 11:46 am
BRAVO! My Beloved Just Carole. Way to go Girl!!!
Noted with many Thanks.
HAVE A VERY BLESSED DAY EVERYBODY!
Much Love,
B.D♥
 

Dalia H. (1280)
Wednesday June 2, 2010, 11:47 am
Sending a Green Star is a simple way to say "Thank you"
You cannot currently send a star to Just because you have done so within the last week.
Much Love instead,
B.D♥
 

Betsy Bee (1038)
Wednesday June 2, 2010, 11:48 am
I am so pleased that all of the Jewish people do not support Israel.
 

Ben Oscarsito (358)
Wednesday June 2, 2010, 11:48 am
Gaza: investigate the raid, end the blockade!
Please sign the Avaaz petition:
"We call for an immediate, international investigation into the flotilla assault, full accountability for those responsible, and the lifting of the Gaza blockade"
http://www.avaaz.org/en/gaza_flotilla/?cl=591760634&v=6403
260,598 have signed since 1 June 2010. Help us get to our new target of 300,000
 

Rajna T. (97)
Wednesday June 2, 2010, 12:11 pm
Noted here, I've read all your posts in the group DUO For World Peace, and because I could not give you a green star, in this way I express my respect for your attitude and your opinion. Thank you.
 

Rajna T. (97)
Wednesday June 2, 2010, 12:13 pm
...and Ben, we are now 262868 signed on AVAZ !!!
 

Edwin M. (356)
Wednesday June 2, 2010, 12:16 pm
Thank you "C" this was a reprehensible act and the fact that it was perpetrated in International waters makes it no less than an act of terrorism and piracy.
 

Mehdi H. (27)
Wednesday June 2, 2010, 12:18 pm
Alot of people including myself are boycotting Israel but we have nothing against the Jews. The problem we have is with the way the Israeli government is treating other people. I hope one day we can all live together peacefully.
 

IE Ries (237)
Wednesday June 2, 2010, 12:25 pm

Not every Jewish person or Israeli citizen agrees with and/or condones what those in the successive Israeli government administrations have been up to, to be sure.

It's inexcusable that anyone who DARES to criticize is persecuted, labeled a traitor, or a Nazi or other accusation. Interesting how the victim (extremist Jews) quickly became the bully to then denies crimes no matter how much evidence exists to the contrary.

We need to let the people in Israel and abroad know that they should criticize a government that persecutes and abuses people, and that should not fear contradicting what their government says and does because they see it for themselves and do not condone these actions. Their voices need to be heard because those in Israel responsible for crimes against humanity cannot keep claiming shielding as "victim" of the Jewish Holocaust while attacking Americans and Turks bringing aid to starving Palestinians. It will no longer be tolerated.

Let the war crimes trials begin, they are long overdue!
 

Past Member (0)
Wednesday June 2, 2010, 12:32 pm
Thank You JC.. and thank You Ben for the petition link.. signed also
 

John Farnham (53)
Wednesday June 2, 2010, 12:39 pm
What's an Anti-Semite? A self-hater?
http://open.salon.com/blog/tampsa/2010/06/01/whats_an_anti-semite_a_self-hater
Morton has been straight about Zionism for years. Thought I'd give anyone interested a look.


 

Just Carole (338)
Wednesday June 2, 2010, 12:42 pm

In addition to my gratitude to each of you, for your outstandingly hope-inspiring moral compasses -- I want to publicly voice my sincerest respect to the author, Rob Kall, for his courage in expressing his opinion in the face of extreme criticism.

Peace can only begin when our enemies are no longer demonized -- and, as such, cease behaving demonically. [Just a spur-of-the-moment thought of my own.]

Thanks to all who took the time to read, comment and forward!

 

Lynn Christy (128)
Wednesday June 2, 2010, 1:15 pm
noted, thanks *C*
 

Rhonda Maness (583)
Wednesday June 2, 2010, 1:20 pm
Thanks Carole
 

M Away M. (463)
Wednesday June 2, 2010, 1:41 pm
Outstanding article Just C!!!

While for the moment I have nothing to say, I was frankly surprised at what was going on and thank you for getting this out at the site...

Can't really be clear today! But, I am German/Swiss and this political battle has gone on way to long, this incident was off the wall to me...but, sadly this is just my humble opinion!!!

Don't know the background etc...did read the article, but, frankly still want to know more... We are always kept in the dark about something (in my mind) Jeepers, when will this ever end??? Probably when this Earth has ERUPTED and we are all dead!!!
 

Just Carole (338)
Wednesday June 2, 2010, 1:43 pm
CINDY and CRAIG CORRIE, info@rachelcorriefoundation.org, http://www.rachelcorriefoundation.org
Cindy and Craig Corrie are the parents of Rachel Corrie, who was killed by an Israeli army bulldozer in the Gaza Strip on March 16, 2003, while trying to prevent the demolition of the home of a Palestinian pharmacist, his wife and three young children.
 
A Free Gaza boat that is being readied to sail to Gaza is named for her. Among those on board are Irish Nobel Peace Laureate Mairead Corrigan-Maguire and former UN Assistant Secretary General Denis Halliday, who is also Irish.
 
See: http://firedoglake.com/2010/06/02/mv-rachel-corrie-heads-for-gaza-no-full-account-yet-of-mondays-casualties/
 
The Corries, who have themselves been to Gaza twice and recently to Israel for a trial related to their daughter's killing, said today in a statement: "We call on the U.S. government and governments of the world to act now. First, the well-being of all the flotilla passengers still in Israel must be secured, and the identities of those killed and injured must be released immediately. Second, governments around the world must demand an independent investigation into the attack upon the flotilla and the killings that occurred. An Israeli-led investigation into an international incident of this magnitude is unacceptable. Our family's own experience has made it all too painfully clear that the Israeli military is unable or unwilling to adequately investigate itself. Third, the U.S. and other governments can and must insist that other boats from the flotilla, including the MV Rachel Corrie, named for our daughter, be permitted to sail through international waters to Gaza unobstructed. Finally, we demand that the governments of the world act as courageously as did the activists on the Free Gaza flotilla and, themselves, break the illegal and immoral siege of Gaza."
 
http://www.commondreams.org/newswire/2010/06/02-11
 
 

M Away M. (463)
Wednesday June 2, 2010, 1:45 pm
Just C...sadly can't send you another star today,

Ben signed the petition you so graciously posted and numbers right now are #270667...

Thanks!!!
 

Yvonne White (233)
Wednesday June 2, 2010, 2:41 pm
Great article & great petition!
 

Barbara D. (70)
Wednesday June 2, 2010, 3:03 pm
"My country, right or wrong" is like "my mother, drunk or sober". Sometimes they are JUST WRONG and need to be called on it. Great article, C!
 

Arild Warud (170)
Wednesday June 2, 2010, 3:32 pm




What Israel is doing now have put me clearly on the Palestinian side - I don't care about a "jewish cry-baby". It's all about peace and the jewish don't want it neither does the US President or most of the American people. I've been out protesting against Israel the last two days and I will keep it up untill Israel gives the Palestian's what they want - A free Palestine for all Palestinians.
Angry as F***** hell.

I'll put the Israeli's in the same class as Stalin,Hitler,Idi Amin,Robert Mugabe and lastbut not least the Apartheid policy of South Africa + the rest of the aspeiring dictators we have around the world. It's a shame on US not coming out strongly on what happened in International Waters west of Gaza - thankfully a friend of mine is safely back in Istambul at this time.
Shame on all of you who doesn't stand with me against Israel!!
 

Cheryl Benson (390)
Wednesday June 2, 2010, 4:02 pm
You cannot currently send a star to Just because you have done so within the last week.
 

Naoko I. (260)
Wednesday June 2, 2010, 4:17 pm
I cannot currently send a star to you, Just *C*. (Most of the time, I can't. You're a way faster in submitting great articles, than I regain my stars for you)

And just like you, what I felt after reading this, is a respect and glatitude to the auther of the article.
 

Pat B. (355)
Wednesday June 2, 2010, 5:02 pm
TY, Carole for this article....and TY, Ben for the petition site. Signed.
 

Pat B. (355)
Wednesday June 2, 2010, 5:03 pm
You cannot currently send a star to Just because you have done so within the last week. Send hugs, and the Best to you, Carole, you ROCK!
 

. (0)
Wednesday June 2, 2010, 5:09 pm
Arild, why would anyone other than supported of anti-Israel genocide stay with you?

That ship was not to deliver aid to Gaza. If it was, they could simply let Israelis check the goods for ammunition, and Israelis would let it into Gaza. They already passed goods from the other five ships.

That ship was a deliberate provocation, designed by Hamas and sponsored by IHH - the funding company for Al-Queda, Hamas and others. They wanted blood shed, they beat Israelis with rods and threw them from the ship to die, they weren't "peace marchers", they were Islamist killers.

They must be arrested and held until trial, and pay compensation to all the wounded Israelis.

Shame of Turkey for letting this farce to originate.
 

Teddy Bear B. (62)
Wednesday June 2, 2010, 5:15 pm
When Flag, Country and Religion rise above your humanity, you are no longer a human being, you are a problem!

Netanyahu has much in common with Adolf!
 

Just Carole (338)
Wednesday June 2, 2010, 5:16 pm

While I am usually not inclined to confront anyone with an obvious lack of comprehensive skills, I will make an exception for you, Mark B.

The boat was in international waters, NOT in the jurisdiction of Israel.

The minute Israeli's forcibly boarded the ship, they were INTRUDERS. (A violation of international law.)

They were trained commandos, armed to the teeth, who proceeded to kill 9+ (numbers still not accurate). (An international act of WAR.)

(And you think they had NO RIGHT TO PROTECT THEMSELVES?)

Shame on YOU for perpetuating your ignorance!

In most countries with even a modicum of reason, it is unlawful to violate the rights and MURDER other people based upon your ASSUMPTION that they may, possibly, be thinking of doing you harm.

(Consider de-programming.)

 

Mandi T. (431)
Wednesday June 2, 2010, 5:17 pm
Thank Carole, and Ben I did sigh the peition .
 

Just Carole (338)
Wednesday June 2, 2010, 5:26 pm

This is appalling to me! I keep thinking of the phrase, "Your rights end, where mine begin."
 

Naoko I. (260)
Wednesday June 2, 2010, 5:34 pm
Leave him Just *C*, as he, and a few others, are absolute minorities, not only in Care2 community but in international community.
 

Just Carole (338)
Wednesday June 2, 2010, 5:36 pm

Thanks, Naoko!
 

Just Carole (338)
Wednesday June 2, 2010, 6:02 pm
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cOhvMm9oC8&feature=player_embedded
 
 

Aletta Kraan (146)
Wednesday June 2, 2010, 6:50 pm
Thanks , noted !!
 

Agnes H. (144)
Wednesday June 2, 2010, 7:00 pm
I agree with you Carole, as long as a ship is in International waters it's an act of Piracy if it's attacked. In this case they were Israeli Commando's which makes it even worse. I haven't heard about any weapons being found on any ship. There were building materials and if the "passengers" used these to defend themselves with, good on them. I would have tried to defend myself if someone came up to me! On top of that the Israeli started shooting before they even hit the deck, so why aren't they allowed to protect themselves?

I'm glad there are some Jews willing to stand up against the Israeli government. If they agreed with the government they would live in Israel as well I think! But I believe America should take Israel to the Internationel court for the war attrocities she has comitted against the Palistinians. Why should Israel be different to any other country? Is it because they are supposed to be the children of God? because Jesus was a Jew? Then they're wrong as according to the Bible we ALL are children of God! Are we all Jews? no but according to the Roman Catholic teachings the Jews aren't even Christians, eventhough they do believe in the same God as they do, but their teachings are different and that's not on!!!!! But I don't believe Israel should be allowed to go on as it has been doing with it's war against the Palistinians, it's no wonder that Hamas has so many followers! If Israel weren't so cruel towards the Palistinians there would be no need for Hamas and they would soon loose their popularity amongst the Palistinians!
 

Cheryl Benson (390)
Wednesday June 2, 2010, 7:01 pm
israel hell has announed they are going to board the rachel corrie, obama haas requested they not be so hard, and the irish is in contact all the time with the dastardly state, and telling them to lay off, well they need boats and a few jets would help from countries around the world and break the damn siege and get it over with
 

Magdalena M. (0)
Wednesday June 2, 2010, 8:08 pm
Thanks Just, I admire the author for his courage.
 

pj dickenson (27)
Wednesday June 2, 2010, 8:19 pm
I know what you mean. I'm Irish American and have had "issues" with the choices of and the governing parties of both. Good people do not injure others simply to have their agendas met. Good people TRY to do the right thing and ignorant people will hurt anyone to get what they want, even at the cost of their own "morality". These people and their random acts of hatefullness will be noted appropriately. These people would be doing themselves a huge favor to remember that none of us "get out alive". Karma is a B@*!!@*!!
 

Carmen S. (69)
Wednesday June 2, 2010, 8:49 pm
Interesting to note tht all Jews do not think the same. I really thought they were a tight knit group.
 

Yvonne Mendes Siblini (218)
Wednesday June 2, 2010, 10:12 pm
Wonderful, was wondering if there was a sane person in the Jewish community. Hope this person will not vanish from the face of this earth for standing up.
 

gail dair (0)
Wednesday June 2, 2010, 11:55 pm
Noted thanks
 

Elle J. (276)
Thursday June 3, 2010, 12:48 am
Noted! Thanks Carole for the story. I completely agree with the author of this story Ron Kall.We have sent money to the Jewish people because they were our allies in the middle east. This attack on the boats that were bringing aid to the Palestinians was outrageous and I am glad that Jewish people are speaking against what is obviously wrong. This behavior is totally unacceptable! There is some comfort in knowing that all Jewish people are involved in this travesty.
 

Brigitte T. (69)
Thursday June 3, 2010, 2:45 am
=

Israelis Opened Fire Before Boarding Gaza Flotilla

By Dorian Jones in Istanbul and Helena Smith

"The operation started immediately with firing. First it was warning shots, but when the Mavi Marmara wouldn't stop these warnings turned into an attack," she said.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article25604.htm


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Israel's Moral Superiority?
Netanyahu: World 'Hypocritical' for Condemning Gaza Flotilla Raid

By Barak Ravid

Netanyahu accused international critics of "hypocrisy" and declared that Israel would continue to blockade the Hamas-run Palestinian enclave, saying that to lift the embargo would turn it into a base for Iranian missiles that would threaten both Israel and Europe.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article25602.htm

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Israeli Murders, NATO and Afghanistan

By Craig Murray

NATO HQ in Brussels is today a very unhappy place. There is a strong understanding among the various national militaries that an attack by Israel on a NATO member flagged ship in international waters is an event to which NATO is obliged - legally obliged, as a matter of treaty - to react.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article25596.htm

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America Complicit In Israel's Crimes

By Paul Craig Roberts

Once again the US government has permitted the Israeli state to murder good people known for their moral conscience. The Israeli state has declared that anyone with a moral conscience is an enemy of Israel, and every American president except Eisenhower and Carter has agreed.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article25600.htm

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Pro-Israel Dems Defend Raid

By JAKE SHERMAN

Ackerman, who chairs the House Foreign Affairs subcommittee on the Middle East, said he "strongly support(s) Israel's right to defend itself, and the right of Israel's naval commandos, who were executing a legal mission, to defend themselves by using force when they were brutally attacked."
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article25598.htm

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Countering Israeli Propaganda
Talking About Israel with Eliot Spitzer on MSNBC

By Glenn Greenwald

It was a rather contentious discussion, though quite illustrative of how Israel is (and is not) typically discussed on American television, so I'm posting the whole 8-minute segment.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article25597.htm

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chris b. (2474)
Thursday June 3, 2010, 3:59 am
Interesting how many see the Israeli actions as a rerun of the tactics of the Jews former oppressors the Nazis! When making this observation on another thread I was accused of anti semitism which of course is not my intention in making such a comparison simply a statement of similarity of response! The Nazis employed vast retalatory tactics against whole towns and villages when one of their number was targeted by the French resistance often shooting whole families or all the men or women of a village. What difference is there in targeting all Palestinians for the sins of Hamas etc especially when they include innocent zoo animals foreign peace activists like Rachel Corrie and others killed whilst in legitimate demonstrations against state brutality and the latest "brave" exploits of special forces deployed against civilians and peace activists in international waters. So" brave" that they have to complain of being hurt by people on the boats who were understandably not too happy about armed commandos being dropped on their vessel! I suspect the orders from on high were to stop these boats with whatever it took as the outcome involved killing crew members! Followed of course by any number of justifications for their actions from illicit weapons to harmful intent by the crews! Thus we see an escalation to the thought police of Orwell!
 

Cal Mendelsohn (1008)
Thursday June 3, 2010, 4:40 am
Though many misinterpret my positions, I think that the one thing lacking is always meaningful dialogue on this, both here at Care2 and in the Mideast also. Case in point, I posted an article which speaks generally about Obama considering all options, and it degenerated into a running verbal war. As you all are intelligent, do you think for a second that either the idea and execution of the flotilla floating to Gaza or the IDF response weren't guided by those with sinister agendas? NOT

Nothing that happens in the Mideast comes from pure intentions because there are extreme agendas guiding them e.g. Hamas and its minions in Gaza, the IDF, at times, Saudi Arabia, Iran and the Shiite martyr crew they command, etc. I wish this wasn't just conspiracy theory. No one's innocent here.
 

Bob E. (113)
Thursday June 3, 2010, 4:40 am
A very good person… But too few Jews speak out….
Barbara Streisand and Neil Diamond and others…
Where are you? Who are you as people?
You NEED to speak out…
You need to say ENOUGH…. ENOUGH...
 

Just Carole (338)
Thursday June 3, 2010, 5:11 am
 
AT LAST!
 
Michael D Higgins TD speaking on the Dáil motion about Interception of Gaza humanitarian Flotilla
 
(My thanks to Pamylle for making me aware of this.)
 
 

Maurene T. (122)
Thursday June 3, 2010, 5:32 am
Well expressed outrage at an outrageous act. Even Rep. Barney Frank said that he was "ashamed to be a Jew". This may be a tipping point for BiBi and perhaps a more level headed person will form a gov't. in Israel.
TY for the story.
 

Just Carole (338)
Thursday June 3, 2010, 6:42 am
 
Top Jewish Rabbis condemn Israeli Flotilla Massacre
 
(Thanks Dave)
 

Dave C. (867)
Thursday June 3, 2010, 6:56 am
You're very welcome Carole - I was just about to post that and you beat me to it!
 

Bracha Kay (31)
Thursday June 3, 2010, 7:04 am
i wonder if these jewish people who condemn israel do it because they just don't know the whole story or because they are scared not to. people are saying that it takes courage for jews to condemn israel, which can be true. but i know of situations where it takes courage for jews to stand up for israel.
 

Just Carole (338)
Thursday June 3, 2010, 7:10 am
 
I think Mr. Kall is very well informed . . .
 
About Rob Kall (the author of the article):
 
Rob Kall is executive editor, publisher and site architect of OpEdNews.com, Host of the Rob Kall Bottom Up Radio Show (WNJC 1360 AM), President of Futurehealth, Inc, inventor. He is also published regularly on the Huffingtonpost.com
 
With his experience as architect and founder of a technorati top 200 blog, he is also a new media / social media consultant and trainer for corporations, non-profits, entrepreneurs and authors.
 
Rob is a frequent Speaker on the bottom up revolution, politics, The art, science and power of story, heroes and the hero's journey, Positive Psychology, Stress, Biofeedback and a wide range of subjects. He is a campaign consultant specializing in tapping the power of stories for issue positioning, stump speeches and debates, and optimizing tapping the power of new media. He recently retired as organizer of several conferences, including StoryCon, the Summit Meeting on the Art, Science and Application of Story and The Winter Brain Meetingon neurofeedback, biofeedback, Optimal Functioning and Positive Psychology. See more of his articles here and, older ones, here.
 
 

Just Carole (338)
Thursday June 3, 2010, 8:37 am
 
Of course, my hero -- Dennis Kucinich -- is ON IT!
 
by Congressman Dennis Kucinich Washington, Jun 2, 2010
 
Congressman Dennis Kucinich (D-OH) is today beginning to circulate to colleagues the following letter concerning the commando raid by Israel upon a Turkish ship in international waters:
 
June 2, 2010
 
The Honorable Barack Obama President of the United States The White House
Washington, DC 20500
 
Dear Mr. President,
 
Israeli commandos, acting at the direction of the State of Israel, attacked and seized a Turkish ship in international waters, in the Mediterranean Sea.
 
At least nine were killed in the incident aboard the Mavi Marmara. Hundreds of civilians were taken into custody and goods were confiscated. Since the United States considers Israel our most important ally in the region, whose survival is a of primary concern, it is incumbent upon the Commander in Chief to call Israel to an accounting for its conduct in planning and executing the deadly military attack in international waters upon a peaceful flotilla carrying citizens from over 50 countries.
 
The State of Israel’s conduct, attacking a Turkish ship in international waters, constitutes an act of belligerence against Turkey, which at one time Israel considered an important ally. It also undermines United States’ troops efforts in Iraq, since your administration’s efforts to achieve stability in the region and to withdraw troops from Iraq has depended upon Turkey’s cooperation through use of its air bases.
 
In its violent commando raid on the Mavi Marmara, the government of Israel showed no concern as to how its conduct may affect the lives of defenseless, innocent people, its friends and allies, and in particular the United States. The United States must remind Israel as well as all of our other friends and allies:
 
It is not acceptable to repeatedly violate international law.
 
It is not acceptable to shoot and kill innocent civilians.
 
It is not acceptable to commit an act of aggression against another U.S. ally.
 
It is not acceptable to continue a blockade which denies humanitarian relief.
 
It is not acceptable to heighten tensions in a region while the United States continues to put so much blood and treasure on the line.
 
The State of Israel’s action necessitates that the United States, which is Israel’s partner in the region, begin to redefine its relationship and to establish such boundaries and conditions which are sufficient for mutual respect and cooperation.
 
It is incumbent upon Israeli officials to bring forth the truth about the planning for and the attack upon the Mavi Marmara.
 
No one questions the right of Israel to defend its border, but that defense does not extend to shooting innocent civilians anywhere in the world, anytime it pleases.
 
Israel must account for our support, for the lives of our soldiers, for the investment of billions from our taxpayers. Israel owes the United States more than reckless, pre-meditated violence waged against innocent people.
 
The attack on the Mavi Marmara requires consequences for the Netanyahu Administration and for the State of Israel. Those consequences must be dealt by the United States. They must be diplomatic and they must be financial. The U.S. can begin by calling for an independent international inquiry of the Mavi Marmara incident. The integrity of such inquiry necessitates that it not be led by the nation whose conduct is under scrutiny. If our nation fails to act in any substantive way, the United States licenses the violence and we are complicit in it and our own citizens will be forced to pay the consequences.
 
We the undersigned deeply regret the loss of life. We are also fully aware of the dangers to world security which exist in the region, which is why the United States has been unstinting it its defense of Israel. We have a right to expect that Israel not add to those dangers with military conduct which all people of good will know is neither defensible nor moral. There must be consequences for such conduct. We await your response.
 
Sincerely,
 
[Dennis Kucinich]
 
 

Dave C. (867)
Thursday June 3, 2010, 8:37 am
Israel Rejects Int'l Probe Into Raid as New Gaza Flotilla About to Sail. . .

Nine activists killed during the Israeli storming of a Gaza aid flotilla have been buried in Istanbul. All but one were Turkish, the other was a U.S. national of Turkish origin. Their bodies arrived in Turkey earlier on Thursday alongside hundreds of detainees deported by Tel Aviv. Israel decided to send home some 700 activists from various countries as international condemnation grew over its troops' actions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rvUZp6VWwM&playnext_from=TL&videos=PbBqiI9gzHk
 

Dave C. (867)
Thursday June 3, 2010, 8:39 am
Dennis Kucinich is The Man!
 

Past Member (0)
Thursday June 3, 2010, 10:22 am
It is good to see that there is some sanity in the Jewish community. As Ghandi said "Be the change...."
 

Beba h. (89)
Thursday June 3, 2010, 10:49 am
Thanks for sharing your views
 

Lynn M. (192)
Thursday June 3, 2010, 11:03 am
Excellent article Carole- great posts also. Thank you. Hugs,
Lynn M.
 

Louis Olivencia (41)
Thursday June 3, 2010, 11:08 am
all in the name of religion_ PEACE
 

Just Carole (338)
Thursday June 3, 2010, 12:04 pm
The Legal Framework of International Law
 
The Attack on the Gaza Freedom Flotilla by Israeli Navy Commandos on May 31, 2010
 
Crimes against the Peace and Crimes against Humanity
 
By Lynda Bray
 
During the pre-dawn hours of May 31, 2010, the Israeli Navy attacked the six civilian vessels of the Gaza Freedom Flotilla.  The attack took place in international waters against ships flying under national flags of countries with which Israel is not at war, namely Turkey, Greece and the United States.  The ships were carrying civilians from more than sixteen countries.
 
Salient points:
 
Since no state of war existed at the time, the attack on these vessels constitutes an act of war against those governments under whose flags the vessels were sailing.
 
The attack falls within the purview of the ius ad bellum, those laws which govern the resort to armed conflict.  Israel’s action does not fall into the category of the ius in bello or the laws which govern the actual conduct of war.
 
Because this attack was carried out in international waters, the status of the relationship between Hamas, or any other Palestinian body, and the state of Israel is of no relevance whatsoever.  Likewise, neither the blockade of Gaza nor Israel’s claims and legal interpretations regarding it has any bearing on its acts of aggression in international waters.
 
 
This is not an act of piracy.  Piracy is an act of aggression carried out in international waters by individuals and not by states.
 
The following internationally binding treaties, charters, and agreements are relevant to the attack by Israel:
 
1. Article 6 of the Charter Provisions of the Nuremburg Trials
 
(a) Crimes against Peace: namely, planning, preparation, initiation, or waging of a war of aggression, or a war in violation of international treaties, agreements or assurances, or participation in a common plan or conspiracy for the accomplishment of any of the foregoing;
 
(b) Crimes against Humanity:  namely murder…deportation, and any other inhumane acts committed against any civilian population, before or during the war...in execution of or in connection with any crime…whether or not in violation of the domestic law of the country where perpetrated.
 
2. 1907 Hague Regulation Convention (XI) Relative to Certain Restrictions with Regard to the Exercise of the Right of Capture in Naval War
 
Chapter II – The Exemption from Capture of Certain Vessels
 
Article 4.  Vessels charged with religious, scientific, or philanthropic missions are likewise exempt from capture.
Salient points:
 
The standard for judging the Israeli acts is objective and not subjective. It is irrelevant what Israeli ministers, generals, admirals, or soldiers thought or intended.  The test is in what they did.
 
What they did was engage in acts of war using weapons of war in international waters against vessels that are protected not only in peacetime but also in times of war.
 
Israel has therefore committed both crimes against the peace and crimes against humanity.
 
These are crimes that have international jurisdiction.  Israeli political and military personnel can be named in trials held in any and all countries of the world.  If the Israelis do not attend the trials, they can be tried in abstentia, and those decisions in which the Israelis are found guilty can be executed anywhere in the world.
 
Because unarmed civilians were murdered by a preplanned military attack, capital crimes have been committed.  While it would appear that the international community no longer finds capital punishment civilized, the punishments for these capital crimes can be multiple life sentences.
 
These crimes give rise to damage claims for huge sums of money and Israeli accounts can be blocked using decisions finding them guilty.
 
The unarmed vessels were on a philanthropic mission, carrying civilians and humanitarian supplies.  Even if Israel were in a state of war with any of these countries, it would be prohibited from capturing the vessels according to the terms of the Hague Convention of 1907.
 
Conclusion:
 
It follows, therefore, that Israel was first of all not allowed to attack these vessels militarily, and then not to board these vessels by force, capture these vessels, attack the passengers, imprison them on the vessels, forcibly remove them from the vessels, and steal their private property in the form of cameras, computers, clothes, etc.
 
 
Every single act carried out by the Israeli military forces in international waters no May 31, 2010, are unqualifiedly and absolutely violations of international law.
 
Lynda Brayer is an Israeli human rights lawyer who specialized in the laws of war and international law in representing Palestinians.  She is a graduate of the Hebrew University Faculty of Law and lives in Haifa.   She can be reached at lyndabrayer@yahoo.com
 
Appendix: The Gaza Freedom Flotilla included six vessels on May 31, 2010 1. Mavi Marmara, passenger boat, Turkey 2. Sofia, cargo ship, Greece 3. Gaza I, cargo ship, Turkey 4. Gaza II, cargo ship, Turkey 5. Spendoni,  passenger ship, Greece
6. Challenger I, passenger ship, United States
 
At least nine passengers were killed, eight Turkish citizens and one U.S. citizen, Furkan Dogan, 19. The majority of the passengers aboard the ships were Turkish citizens.  There were also nationals from Britain, Australia, Greece, Canada, Malaysia, Algeria, Serbia, Belgium, Ireland, Norway, Sweden, Kuwait and the United States.
Three German parliamentarians were aboard the Turkish boat that was stormed. There were also two Palestinian Members of the Knesset.  Swedish author Henning Mankell was also on board the flotilla.
 
TAKE ACTION:
 
Despite Israeli spin-doctors, and Israel firsters in the United States, it’s clear that Israel has broken international laws. Contact your government to call for an independent international investigation of Israel’s attack on the flotilla, an end to the Gaza blockade, and an immediate halt to U.S. aid to Israel.
 
Phone the White House: 202-456-1414 or 202-456-1111. Or contact President Barack Obama by e-mail http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact
 
Phone the U.S. State Department Public Information Line: 202-647-6575 ext 1
 
Contact your members of Congress: http://contactingthecongress.org/
 
Contact your local newspapers, radio stations, religious leaders… everyone you know. Click here to subscribe to the Washington Report on Middle East Affairs.
 
 

Kerstin Strobl (372)
Thursday June 3, 2010, 12:09 pm
Thank you Carol and Ben, I signed the petition
 

Milena K. (244)
Thursday June 3, 2010, 12:18 pm
I'm not Jewish but thanks anyway :)
 

steve cohn (17)
Thursday June 3, 2010, 12:40 pm
Not in MY jewish name either!
Not all Americans approved of Bush's policies, as was apparent at our last national election, but could still be good Americans. I'm sure that many Israeli's feel the same way that I felt under a president that didn't think that facts were important.
 

Just Carole (338)
Thursday June 3, 2010, 12:43 pm

Very much agreed, Steve.

I, most certainly, would not want to be counted among "Americans" when referring to many of the despicable acts of the Bush administration.

He NEVER represented ME!
 

Henriette Matthijssen (148)
Thursday June 3, 2010, 1:58 pm
I signed Ben's petition! Thanks Just Carole for this Story! Israeli leaders need to remember: Only do, to others what you yourself can easily experience! What goes around will come around! When will humanity become civilized & understand that we are One! It ain't about being Jew or not, it is about respecting other beings as our brother in a world where we need to have compassion towards all beings. When we respect others, we respect ourselves! When leaders starts leading ethically, is when we will all follow! Until then we are in chaos with each other & one another! WARS!
 

Elaine Robinson (131)
Thursday June 3, 2010, 2:13 pm
THIS IS GOOD JEWS NOT IN SUPPORT OF ISRAELI POLICIES - BUST ISRAELIS ARSE
 

. (0)
Thursday June 3, 2010, 2:57 pm
Arild Warud, du er en dust !! and NO i will not stand with you against Isreal. "" I will keep it up untill Israel gives the Palestian's what they want - A free Palestine for all Palestinians""........................The palestinians are anyone who lives in the area of Palestine and that includes JORDAN and ISREAL, so arabs who live in Jordan ARE already living in a FREE PALESTINIAN area and so can anyone who wants to live in peace in the isreali part. WHAT the arab muslims who call themselves palestinian want is pure and SIMPLE they want ISREAL destroyed, and I SAY NO F.........way do they get that I will fight them and you to stop this injustice, They already have half of palestine and they want it all.
 

Darlene Therrien (161)
Thursday June 3, 2010, 2:57 pm
noted
 

Tamara WILLIAMS (176)
Thursday June 3, 2010, 3:52 pm
NOTED AND THANKS FOR THE STORY AND AFTER READING ALL THE COMMENTS I AM NOT SURE HOW I FEEL. I THOUGHT AS CHRISTIANS WE ARE TO BE SUPPORTIVE OF ISREAL FOR THIS IS GOD'S CHOSEN PEOPLE BUT THE HATRED IS NOT GODLY EITHER. SO AT THE CROSSROADS I STAND.
 

sherrie e. (147)
Thursday June 3, 2010, 4:00 pm
You cannot currently send a star to Henriette because you have done so within the last week.
It would be so much easier to come together on common ground than to constantly be killing each other....but the "common ground" is what they are fighting over and have been for long, long time. So long it is a fact of life for them and they accept it evidently. At any rate innocents die in the process....always have and always will...till there is peace.
 

Sharon Balloch (132)
Thursday June 3, 2010, 4:50 pm
Do not be ashamed to be a Jew, just the actions of some Jews. I am Canadian, and I am ashamed of those who bash in the heads of baby seals... and other ugly things some Canadians do... but I love being Canadian. I can not control the actions of others. But many come and sign petitions to stop the ugly things that happen in my country and I am thankful I do not have to fight alone. THere are many good Jews, Muslims, Christians and Canadians... and on and on... and there are many evil Jews, evil Muslims, evil Christians and evil Canadians.. it is the evil we stand together against and try and make our voices heard.
 

. (0)
Thursday June 3, 2010, 7:36 pm
A Jew supporting a campaign by terrorist organization Hamas, openly planning in their program to genocide the Jews in Israel? Wow, that's refreshing. So, let her join the Arab Media machine and become very popular!

Will that Jewish person support the terror campaign of Hamas directed against its dissidents in Gaza? Like when they beat youngsters holding hands, or kill gays, or crash Internet cafes? Or, that Jewish person supports them only when they want to kill the Jews?

 

ARTLADY ONE (56)
Thursday June 3, 2010, 8:59 pm
THANK YOU FOR POSTING this. Thank you dear C for forwarding to me! I AM JEWISH! I have never supported Zionism and never will. I do not support the kind of atrocities Israel has been perpetrating against innocent human beings for a very , very long time. Deplorable is not a strong enough word to use, but it's the only one i can think of at the moment.

I too used to wrestle with guilt by association. I no longer do! Unfortunately I know other Jewish people who are completely brainwashed and ignorant of the truth as it applies not only to the Israeli government but to the American GOVERNMENT CORPORATION TOO. Israel's government is also a CORPORATION as are MOST governments these days. CORPORATIONS ARE FICTIONS and the people involved care about only one thing, CORPORATE PROFITS............They will murder, wage unlawful wars, and essentially do whatever it takes to maintain their power. But someday (soon I pray), they will sabotage themselves in a way that will prevent them from rearing their ugly heads and bringing so much horror and destruction again. That is my prayer everyday........I also look forward to the day when many more millions open their eyes and see the TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH regarding many things!
 

Nightcat Mau (81)
Thursday June 3, 2010, 10:46 pm
Thank you, noted, signed and proud of it. I do not recall ever being taught in studying the Torah (at Uni) that such violence and terror against others was acceptable. They are and insult to humankind and should be ashamed to call themselves Jews.

These monsters would not know the true meaning of Zion if it kicked them in the butt. What happened to wanting a free and loving country God could smile upon? And attacking aid ships is cowardly to say the least. They might think they control everything but God is in control and they will be held accountable for these crimes.

Again thank you for posting and my love, respect, and prayers go out to the Jewish people who are suffering guilt by association. You are nothing like these monsters and never will be. Jewish people helped found the US as a free and loving country, don't ever forget that.
 

Julie van Niekerk (230)
Thursday June 3, 2010, 11:22 pm
There is not a planet for each race - it is time we realize it. We should hold hands together.
 

Joy Wong (76)
Friday June 4, 2010, 2:41 am
Noted. If only we could live in peace and harmony, regardless of race or color. But that just seems impossible/
 

Marty H. (119)
Friday June 4, 2010, 3:11 am
EXACTLY! I have never been anti-semitic but I look at the current IDF/Mossad as modern day Nazis because that is what they act like! I hope more Jewish people stop backing the current Israeli government and their racist policies. Thank you Just C and noted!
 

Michael Masley (5)
Friday June 4, 2010, 4:12 am
Noted, great article and discussion. Nice to see people get what is going on.
 

patricia lasek (317)
Friday June 4, 2010, 5:41 am
A complete investigation must take place. Signed the petittion Ben posted days earlier. Thanks for the story.
 

Kait G. (25)
Friday June 4, 2010, 1:05 pm
I am thrilled to know that what I had thought is true! There was no way that the people of the nation would share the same feelings that those who started all of this mess, there had to be the same people remaining there that are the Jews others had always loved through the faiths that involved Jesus -- I am so very thankful and, even, proud! :)
 

JustaHuman Here (53)
Sunday June 6, 2010, 1:04 pm
I can imagine how it feels to be member of a race or nation that is hateted for its actions if one does not agree to what is done in the name of just that race or the god. Everyone can see that Israel never will give up the policy of expanding and calling those who fight for their land with little means just terrorists. And America the big brother is holding its wings over it. Just let#s tease the moslims more and we will get the desired war. And those who do not agree are getting something bad, especially as Jews. This will happen if some people won't be stopped.
 

Rosanne C. (37)
Thursday June 17, 2010, 8:32 am
I am disagreeing with the majority here because I have been reading many articles on what really happenened in this incident....Those people in the flotilla were ARMED (with knives, guns, and other weapons) and were purposely trying to break Israel's blockade of Gaza. They were NOT humanitarian activists but evil people who knew the Israeli's would board the flotilla and they were prepared to kill the Israeli soldiers who did. Humane activists do not kill. Simple as that. The reason for the blockade of the Gaza Strip is because Hamas, a known terrorist group, controls Palestine and is preventing the Palestine people from getting the humantarian aid -- food, water, and the basic necessities of living -- that other countries are trying to send to them. There was NO humanitarian aid on or in that flotilla, only people willing to kill so that the Israelis look bad to the rest of the world. Well guess what? It worked. And it is unfortunate because it is the terrorist group Hamas whom we should all be protesting, not the Israelis or their government. Israel has the right to protect and defend itself from its enemies - Hamas in this case - just as any other country in this world has that same right. I know I'm going to get outraged comments here in reply to writing the TRUTH of what really happened that day in international waters but I really don't care because I am on Israel's side even though I am a Christian. Also because those on that flotilla were in the wrong, Israel in the right; the right to defend their country from Hamas.
 

Just Carole (338)
Thursday June 17, 2010, 9:06 am

I repeat:

The boat was in international waters, NOT in the jurisdiction of Israel.

The minute Israelis forcibly boarded the ship, they were INTRUDERS (a violation of international law), and the passengers had EVERY RIGHT to defend themselves.

They were trained commandos, armed to the teeth, who proceeded to kill 9+ (numbers still not accurate). (An international act of WAR.) Now, WHO are the terrorists?

(And you think they had NO RIGHT TO PROTECT THEMSELVES?)

In most countries with even a modicum of reason, it is unlawful to violate the rights and MURDER other people based upon your ASSUMPTION that they may, possibly, be thinking of doing you harm.
 
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