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World  (tags: Depleted uranium, truth vs fiction, ICBUW, genocide, 'HUMANRIGHTS!' )

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Animated short on the impact of depleted uranium weapons and the international campaign against them, produced by the International Coalition to Ban Uranium Weapons and IKV Pax Christi.



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Just Carole (341)
Sunday February 27, 2011, 12:03 pm

It is CRIMINAL the way this issue is being ignored by the media and our government. I encourage all to help spread the word!

As you will see, "depleted" uranium does not render it to being innocuous -- to intended victims, collateral damage . . . and even our own troops, who will return and face its consequences.

We cannot permit this cover-up to continue!

 

Cher C. (1461)
Sunday February 27, 2011, 12:12 pm


THNX for posting sweetie!


 

Just Carole (341)
Sunday February 27, 2011, 12:27 pm
 
For those who wish to take action, I've found a petition here that desperately needs signatures:
 
Petition to ban the use of depleted Uranium
 
 
 

BarbKnight SunshineLady (1607)
Sunday February 27, 2011, 12:29 pm
Ah, man!! Who knows what the planes that hit the Twin Towers on 9/11 were loaded with!! I know deleted titanium is oderless, but, stiil, this was my first thought as I watched the film. THEN....I thought about all the sweet, innocents who have Army husbands/wives/children......Phew.......a real eye opener!!! Thnx *C*, sadly noted.
 

Carrie B. (279)
Sunday February 27, 2011, 12:29 pm
Thank you, Carole. Noted.
 

Mike S. (86)
Sunday February 27, 2011, 12:41 pm
Noted and thanks Carole for the petition link. Signed!
 

Abdessalam Diab (150)
Sunday February 27, 2011, 12:42 pm
Abdessalam, You signed on November 22, 2010.
Your signature has been delivered to:
The United Nations .
 

Glenda J. (158)
Sunday February 27, 2011, 12:44 pm
Thanks Carole for sharing this, its the price we pay for having a corrupt government, and they have been corrupt since the beginning of time, all we have hold onto now is together our FATE and HOPE of over coming all the trials and tribulations they have buried us with, especially knowing all the time it was only money and Greed of the dark senseless man that created this evil upon the Earth.
 

Just Carole (341)
Sunday February 27, 2011, 12:47 pm

Thanks to all who have noted, and commented, here.

I agree, Glenda. This purposely blacklisted truth (with our governments and media in collusion) is already having disastrous impacts on those countries where these weapons have been -- and are continuing to be -- used!

 

Abdessalam Diab (150)
Sunday February 27, 2011, 12:50 pm
It is horrible.The direct and the future effect of this depleted uranium had been seen clearly in Iraq.Newly born children whose parents were subject to it.This crime against humanity was committed by the US forces in Iraq.It had been also reported that Israel used it against the Palestinians.Nothing had been reported-to the best of my knowledge-about this deadly weapon on 9/11.
 

Manuel Duarte (1005)
Sunday February 27, 2011, 12:52 pm
Thanks for the info.
 

Rhonda Maness (602)
Sunday February 27, 2011, 12:54 pm
Thanks Carole
 

Dotti Lydon (118)
Sunday February 27, 2011, 12:57 pm
Well done video, but scary. Thanks for the link, Just Carole, Petition signed.
 

Ramona Thompson (210)
Sunday February 27, 2011, 1:02 pm
S/N/Viewed: OFFLINE NoML, You signed on February 27, 2011.
Your signature has been delivered to:
The United Nations.

I have no words that are fit to express at this moment other than mankind has flung itself into an abysmal chasm that is about to implode.
 

Past Member (0)
Sunday February 27, 2011, 1:13 pm
Noted, signed, and will forward, thanks. For a related article posted by Amour see:
http://www.care2.com/news/member/258933434/2733437
 

Just Carole (341)
Sunday February 27, 2011, 1:17 pm
 
From ICBUW (who sent me the video):
 

"Campaigners have called for support for a new bill that seeks to identify members of the US armed forces who may have been exposed to depleted uranium and which aims to ensure health monitoring for veterans.
17 February 2011 - ICBUW

The bill was submitted in January by U.S. Representative José E. Serrano, who represents the 16th Congressional District of New York in the Bronx. Serrano served in the 172nd Support Battalion of the U.S. Army Medical Corps during the 1960s. Similar bills have been submitted in previous years but have foundered through lack of support.

US activists and veterans' groups are urging supporters to contact their Representatives at their Washington DC offices to call on them to support or co-sponsor the text. The Depleted Uranium Screening and Testing Act, as it is known, has been referred to the Committee on Armed Services.

Full text here: http://www.bandepleteduranium.org/en/a/376.html"


 

Dandelion G. (403)
Sunday February 27, 2011, 1:17 pm
Petition to ban the use of depleted Uranium
Your signature has been delivered to: The United Nations

Horrific and those who have had this within their Power to make the decisions to use this have no Hearts and their inner light is gone to blackness. All we can do, as Carol has done, is expose this and to bring light to this subject in hopes that this madness will be stopped.

I am so sorry that my name has to be attached to a Country that claims to be on the side of Human Rights and Dignity but shows little of it in the way it does business and makes policy. As I was taught when I was a wee child growing up, words are cheap, look at the actions of someone and the Truth will be shown. The same is for Countries look at it's actions not at it's words.

There is another major war going on so if you have not signed the petition please consider doing so. Let us get out of there before we do more damage than has been done thus far.

STOP THE WAR IN AFGHANISTAN..........
Petition link: http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/end-afghan-war-oil-dependence/
 

Sandrea S. (192)
Sunday February 27, 2011, 1:19 pm
What a horror story! I wish it was just Science Fiction. Noted and Petition signed. Thanks, Carole!
 

Just Carole (341)
Sunday February 27, 2011, 1:22 pm

Absolutely, Sheryl (Dandelion)!

We MUST let them know that, if they will not publish truth . . . WE WILL!

No matter what petition you choose to sign, the one action you MUST take is to join others in becoming our own media source!

 

Arielle S. (313)
Sunday February 27, 2011, 1:25 pm
Thanks, Carole - btw, there are many abandoned testing sites here in the US that have depleted uranium still there. We almost bought a house once in Madison, Ind. where the Jefferson Proving ground was turned into the Big Oaks Wildlife Preserve - I understand that now it is (appropriately) Wiggam Cemetery.
 

Toni C. (508)
Sunday February 27, 2011, 1:27 pm
Noted and signed... so discouraged by those countries that claim to be looking out for the welfare of all.
 

Barbara Erdman (63)
Sunday February 27, 2011, 1:30 pm
noted an thanx
 

Ruth K. (66)
Sunday February 27, 2011, 1:33 pm
Noted. The use of depleted uranium should be halted immediately.
 

Just Carole (341)
Sunday February 27, 2011, 1:43 pm

If I were to name a cause, worthy of championing -- second, only, to corporate corruption and take-over of the U.S. government (affecting all people worldwide) -- it would be THIS!

 

Jeannette A. (146)
Sunday February 27, 2011, 1:45 pm
Signed the petition... only 36 signatures! These people deserve better from us!!!
PLEASE sign... and think of all the innocents at risk. Thank you Carol for the video and the link to the petition.

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/573/petition-to-ban-the-use-of-depleted-uranium/
 

Pamylle G. (455)
Sunday February 27, 2011, 1:48 pm
Signed !
 

Jae A. (320)
Sunday February 27, 2011, 2:03 pm
Noted,signed...Just one more thing to add to our list of OMG !!
 

Toni C. (508)
Sunday February 27, 2011, 2:06 pm
Just signed second petition covering this subject... the more the better in cases such as these.
 

Past Member (0)
Sunday February 27, 2011, 2:10 pm
Noted, and petition signed. Ty.
 

Just Carole (341)
Sunday February 27, 2011, 2:10 pm
 
Please indulge me, while I take a moment to give credit to one of my Care2 friends, who is an Iraqi, and has made many efforts to describe the horrors she has seen first-hand as a result.  Through her submissions, I have come to understand the eye-witness, and long-lasting effects, of unjustified, and immoral, wars initiated/supported by this country for greed.
 
(Any stars sent to her are much-deserved.):
 
Uhoud
 
 
 

Just Carole (341)
Sunday February 27, 2011, 2:18 pm

When you visit this site, please give credit to the publisher by giving it a "favorite," and if you feel so inclined, a comment.

Thanks.

 

Linda G. (187)
Sunday February 27, 2011, 2:18 pm
Horrendous and criminal! Petitions signed (2) and letters being sent to my senators and representative. Thanks for the heads up, Carole.
 

Robert S. (115)
Sunday February 27, 2011, 2:20 pm
Signed, dear friend Carole. Thanks for bringing the use of this insidious material and the consequences thereafter, to our attention.
 

Past Member (0)
Sunday February 27, 2011, 2:22 pm
The first time I heard about this was about 6 months ago on the Alex Jones Show... If you even breath one particle of this stuff it shortens the life span by up to 20 yrs! They have many plans in the works for eugenics! I am watching "What in the world are they spraying?"... right now! And it's horrifying!!!
 

linda b. (190)
Sunday February 27, 2011, 2:22 pm
Very informative video and frightening, signed and noted thank you Just Carole and dear Abdessalam for the forward, Sent a star to your dear friend Uhoud.
 

Carol Cowbrough (91)
Sunday February 27, 2011, 2:34 pm
Noted. Thank you.
 

Mary Donnelly (44)
Sunday February 27, 2011, 2:48 pm
Thanks Just Carole. I am amazed that this problem has taken so long to get some publicity.
 

Yvonne White (232)
Sunday February 27, 2011, 2:51 pm
#41 4:49pm February 27 Yvonne White IL.
 

Sue D. (156)
Sunday February 27, 2011, 2:51 pm
Noted and signed, but it said I was #40. We need to get the numbers on this petition up! It is a good informative video, thanks JCarole for posting and Abdessalam for forwarding!
 

Kit H. (172)
Sunday February 27, 2011, 2:53 pm
signed & share.
 

Alicia N. (87)
Sunday February 27, 2011, 3:14 pm
Watched the video and made me sad....... Petition gladly signed Darling. Take care and stay just beautiful as you already are.
 

Susan D. (116)
Sunday February 27, 2011, 3:18 pm
signed ty Carole
 

Just Carole (341)
Sunday February 27, 2011, 3:25 pm

Quote from the film:

"When there is uncertainty, the burden of proof should be on the military to prove that there is no risk."

 

Naoko I. (258)
Sunday February 27, 2011, 3:29 pm
Noted and the petition signed.
 

Just Carole (341)
Sunday February 27, 2011, 3:36 pm

Thank you, Naoko.

You are a citizen of a country where genocidal force was used. I challenge those who proclaim that "use of the atomic bomb saved lives."

OUTRAGEOUS!

So easy (and smug) to proclaim a "victory," without acknowledging the devastation left in the path of this weapon.

An egregious act (mass murder) is NEVER justifiable. (Disgusting that this heinous behavior is heralded as a positive step toward peace.)

And, SHAME on those who choose to assuage their consciences by choosing to believe so.

 

Eternal Gardener (700)
Sunday February 27, 2011, 3:37 pm
You rock Carole! Signed and noted!
 

Ness French (211)
Sunday February 27, 2011, 3:40 pm
Noted, Signed !!!!
*C* as Eternal G stated above...YOU ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you also Dandelion for the fwd also!
 

Jo-Ann Harris (85)
Sunday February 27, 2011, 3:53 pm
Noted and signed.
 

Just Carole (341)
Sunday February 27, 2011, 3:53 pm

It defies my reason to understand how so many people can comprehend the injustice implied by chaining and starving animals, and factory farming, and cruelty to children -- but can separate that when it goes beyond their own national borders.

If these acts were perpetrated on American soil, we would NEVER justify them. (Much the same mentality of bullies.)

Please, dear sentient members, NEVER betray your respect for life because of your allegiance to man-made borders.

We are one -- and to survive, we need to remember that.

 

John E. (15)
Sunday February 27, 2011, 4:01 pm
And the award for the nation sponsoring the greatest amount of terror goes to ( Fill this space with your nomination)
Signed and commented ... Mission accomplished ... so to speak.
I believe great hopes were held for the US when a decent man found his way to the White House ... sadly many have come to the conclusion that it is a case of " Same horse, different jockey"
Thank you to Carole and Dandelion.
 

Linda h. (86)
Sunday February 27, 2011, 4:03 pm
Noted and signed. This is very important for everyone to sign. The factories where this stuff is made is poisoning everyone, the soldiers who use it are poisoned, and the civilians who must live in the countries where they are at war are poisoned for decades to come.

BTW, I was only #50 to sign we need more signatures!
 

Cindy Black (61)
Sunday February 27, 2011, 4:06 pm
My friend Carole -- 1) thank you so much for this information... sickening that it is. How hypocritical can this country get?! How horrible that this issue isn't on the Front Page in our media!

Over and over in human societies, it seems that NIMBY carries the day. And it's just amazing how many people around me -- reasonably intelligent, informed, sane people -- could not care less about what's happening anywhere else -- as if that isn't eventually going to bite THEM in the butt, too, on this tiny shrinking planet. Very difficult to deal with such apathy and stupidity.
 

Marti Williams (170)
Sunday February 27, 2011, 4:16 pm
Noted...signed...shared...
 

John Johnson (22)
Sunday February 27, 2011, 4:23 pm
Thanks Just C! noted and signed.
 

Caitlin M. (103)
Sunday February 27, 2011, 4:26 pm
If I heard correctly, this video is not actually saying that all these effects are certainly true, it is saying these effects COULD BE true. I am a little suspicious when the narrator says something CAN do this and MAY do that. And the whole premise of this video is that the weapon should be proved safe BEFORE using it rather than the civilian population proving it unsafe AFTER its use. That all makes sense to me. So I signed the petition because if these conditions ARE true, then I've signed; and if the conditions prove NOT to be true then no harm is done by my signing. Don't really know why I felt compelled to share this line of thought with y'all. But I hope it is useful for someone! Thanks Carole. (I still don't know what ICBUW stands for, but guess I'll find it somewhere.)
 

Naoko I. (258)
Sunday February 27, 2011, 4:30 pm
Thanks Carole, I really appreciate that you don't think "use of the atomic bomb saved the lives," what majority of the Americans believe.

There's never a true "victory" after any war.
 

Just Carole (341)
Sunday February 27, 2011, 4:30 pm

Caitlin -- Thanks for your show of confidence.

As I said earlier: Quote from the film: "When there is uncertainty, the burden of proof should be on the military to prove that there is no risk."

ICBUW = Internal Coalition to Ban Uranium Weapons
 

Jelica R. (159)
Sunday February 27, 2011, 4:32 pm

Campaign: International Petition to Ban Uranium Weapons

Uranium weapons, often called 'depleted' uranium (DU) weapons, are manufactured from radioactive waste materials produced during the nuclear fuel chain and the production of nuclear weapons. They cause widespread and long lasting contamination of the environment. These weapon systems are radiologically and chemically toxic.


Many people - innocent civilians especially children, military veterans, industry workers - have illnesses and medical problems, which may be due to their exposure to 'depleted' uranium. In areas such as southern Iraq, where uranium munitions were used by the US and the UK, there have been reports of increases in cancers, leukaemia and birth defects.

At least 18 countries possess these weapons, the use of which is contrary to existing humanitarian law.

We, the people, need to let governments and the United Nations know that these weapons can have no part in a humane and caring world. Every signature counts! These online signatures will be added to more than 200,000 paper signatures already collected

We call for your support to demand:

1.An immediate end to the use of uranium weapons.
2.Disclosure of all locations where uranium weapons have been used and immediate removal of the remnants and contaminated materials from the sites under strict control.
3.Health surveys of the 'depleted' uranium victims and environmental investigations at the affected sites.
4.Medical treatment and compensation for the 'depleted' uranium victims.
5.An end to the development, production, stockpiling, testing, trade of uranium weapons.
6.A Convention for a Total Ban on Uranium Weapons.

Sign:
As person
As organisation

Signatures since 17 September 2006: 7143 persons, 60 organisations

 

Just Carole (341)
Sunday February 27, 2011, 4:34 pm

One of the things I learned very early in my years of awakening to government lies was: "Find out WHY they're NOT talking about it."

You are being given exposure. You have the choice of examining it further . . . or ignoring it.

Some people seek truth -- and others are content to be deluded.

This article was posted for the first category.

 

wooddragon xx (88)
Sunday February 27, 2011, 4:35 pm
Cheers Carole and Thank you Dandelion for forwarding.

I remember when Uhoud pointed this out on her news, last year. There is a high ratio of children being born with deformities in Iraq and a possible link to Uranium. Didn't the US and UK governments say they didn't use chemical weapons in Iraq? I have also just read that Australia definitely used it too!. Sorry, it is late and I am tired, but I want to make sure that I understand this correctly. Please point out if I am incorrect. Cheers..

Petition signed, shared and I am now following on Twitter too.

Peace to us all..
wooddragon
 

Just Carole (341)
Sunday February 27, 2011, 4:35 pm

Thank you, Jelica!

 

Just Carole (341)
Sunday February 27, 2011, 4:36 pm

Wooddragon: Much-deserved star sent your way!

 

Just Carole (341)
Sunday February 27, 2011, 4:42 pm

 
Faux pas alert!
 
ICBUW = International Coalition to Ban Uranium Weapons
 
(My bad.)
 
 
 

Elisa M. (93)
Sunday February 27, 2011, 4:43 pm

Keep uranium where it belongs-- in the ground!

Thank you Carole for posting, and Jelica R. for posting the international petition.
 

Past Member (0)
Sunday February 27, 2011, 4:49 pm
Done
 

Just Carole (341)
Sunday February 27, 2011, 5:26 pm

Hiroshima -- 24 Hours After The Bomb
 
(by National Geographic)
 
 
 
 

Lin Penrose (92)
Sunday February 27, 2011, 5:35 pm
Noted and thanks Just C. Uranium used, recycled, or left in the ground, is but a single way we humans have devised to destroy a well balanced planet, that had devloped many ways to Keep the balance without humans complicated interference. The ways of death are many, and we - humans - have simply, and with complex items added more, to the possible.
 

Just Carole (341)
Sunday February 27, 2011, 5:37 pm

Well said, Lin.

We have divurged greatly from an original purpose of appreciating this planet and its inhabitants. (Sad.)

 

Robert S. (115)
Sunday February 27, 2011, 6:11 pm
left in the ground? So we are damned if we do and damned if we don't? :)

I agree with the general gist of the statement. Just sayin.
 

Just Carole (341)
Sunday February 27, 2011, 6:13 pm

(hehehe . . . I understand, Robert)

How 'bout we start judging our "superiority" on ways we develop that do not involve murdering what we perceive to be our enemies?

 

Just Carole (341)
Sunday February 27, 2011, 6:20 pm

Ya know . . . THAT is something that's bothered me for some time.

In our state/federal governments (and most religions), we are taught that it is NEVER acceptable to take the life of another human being -- unless our own lives are put at impending (and provable in a court of law) risk.

Why does that scenario change when WE (as a country) are the attackers, and our government cannot meet that same burden of proof? Why are we so willing to deliver our own children to this carnage? Why is questioning that considered to be unpatriotic?

When did "patriotic" become synonymous with "unthinkingly obedient?"



 

Robert S. (115)
Sunday February 27, 2011, 6:28 pm
How 'bout we start judging our "superiority" on ways we develop that do not involve murdering what we perceive to be our enemies?

That would be splendid and I agree...thats what made/makes me a fan and voter for/ of Carter.

If I were a soldier who would have had to hit the beach of mainland Japan, I'm not sure I would agree with that which both you and me today find unthinkable. Hindsight was not a convenience they had my friend.
 

Just Carole (341)
Sunday February 27, 2011, 6:48 pm

 
For those who are interested in the use of "body counts" as a definition of victory, here is an interesting article:
 
Army Deploys Old Tactic in PR War

 

Just Carole (341)
Sunday February 27, 2011, 6:54 pm

This is posted on my profile:


Incitement To Disobedience


I wish that I were able to incite
Young men in every land to disobey
For wars will cease when men refuse to fight.


To kill our brothers for a nations right
Is not a method we can use today.
I wish that I were able to incite.


When leaders threaten to resort to might,
I know that idols all have feet of clay.
For wars will cease when men refuse to fight.


The cause of peace is shared by black and white
And freedom fighters show a better way.
I wish that I were able to incite.


Non-violent resistance has no bite
While undecided pacifists delay.
For wars will cease when men refuse to fight.


With power to reinforce in what I write
The things that protest-singers try to say,
I wish that I were able to incite
For wars will cease when men refuse to fight.


- Tom Earley


 

Robert S. (115)
Sunday February 27, 2011, 7:18 pm
They used it in Vietnam and again now as a way to measure victory, for they had little else to show as a measure...and here we are again.
 

Pat B. (351)
Sunday February 27, 2011, 7:32 pm
Thank you, Carole for this video. EU (Enriched uranium) was made in the 40's or so. Later on, DE (Depleted uranium was manufactured around the '70's, and is used in current wars (91 on). It has been shown to cause cancers, birth defects, fatigue, memory loss, and long term health effects, as this is a toxic metal. This affects humans, animals, the environment, the air we breathe. This must...indeed, be banned. (Look at Iraq!) Signed!!!
 

Michael Carney (205)
Sunday February 27, 2011, 7:54 pm
Noted...Thanks Carole, and I agree with you 100%, it is criminal, and we should make everyone aware...
 

Dandelion G. (403)
Sunday February 27, 2011, 8:04 pm
Carole, I watched the film you linked to 24 hours after the bomb, and I do hope the statement the man said at the end holds true. Let us learn from the lessons taught....this must never happen again anywhere at any time. I'd give you a green star for posting and for links, alas, you got your quota from me this week, so I say thank you again, and glad some of those I forwarded this to have come to view and sign petition.
 

Sue D. (156)
Sunday February 27, 2011, 8:21 pm
Thank you Just Carole for the link to Hiroshima 24 hours after the Bomb. If that doesn't make someone question the use of WMD's then there is something wrong with that person. ALL bombs and wars should be eliminated - Maybe the leaders who call for war should be the one's that go to their own wars. If only "we" would refuse...
 

(0)
Sunday February 27, 2011, 8:24 pm
Thanks for the post Carole and the forwarding from Abdessalem too!
 

Deborah B. (69)
Sunday February 27, 2011, 9:05 pm
Thank you, Carole and thanks Dandelion for forwarding. I would hope that this proposed bill finds a positive reception. However, I don't think that the government really cares about any of it as we have seen in the past and present. The video was very informative and frightening to contemplate.
 

Barbara W. (342)
Sunday February 27, 2011, 10:16 pm
MONSTERS are ruling and ruining the planet. ther's no other way to put the truth..

 

Carol Dreeszen (368)
Sunday February 27, 2011, 10:57 pm
Noted and Signed the petition! Thanks Carole!
 

Ruth R. (209)
Monday February 28, 2011, 12:30 am
noted signed shared
 

Luciana D. (35)
Monday February 28, 2011, 12:31 am
Well, well, humans are doing their best to eliminate themselves from the earth. The sooner, the better ! It won't be a great loss for our blue planet, if there's still some life left on it at the end.
 

Agnes H. (144)
Monday February 28, 2011, 12:53 am
Noted, but am late in replying thanks to Dandelion for a new forward. Radiation isn't to be taken lightly. During 1974/77 Les worked on a squadron of planes with "Sniffer Pods" These planes had to fly through a Radioactive Could after a Nuclear bomb was dropped, even if it were for trial. He was in Midway Island for 4 months in 1975 when the whole world seemed to have gone mad and dropped all sorts of Nuclear bombs.The US and UK included. He said the fithiest bomb was dropped by China. not once but a few times, and every time the planes had to fly through these clouds and when they came back the Ground crew of which Les was one had to take the Sniffer Pods off and check the filters inside for what was left behind. After that they had to clean the planes and then themselves as they were covered in Nuclear waste. After one of the Chinese bombs one of the planes was so "HOT" it's tyres burnt marks in the small runway on Midway Island. Les has been healthy until 2 years ago when all of a sudden he was taken ill and got different illnesses after illnesses.
No one is going to tell me it was just "Old Age"! He has tried to contact his friends from all the squadrons he was on but had no luck with 27 Squadron. None of them contacted him. Most of the blokes were younger than him and no one is going to tell me that none of them have a computer as some of them started families afterwards, some were still single. He contacted quite a few from the other Squadrons and with him being so ill now that he has no energy left which makes him unable to push my wheelchair made me wonder and I started thinking back. Why wouldn't the other countries let the planes land for refuelling after 4 months? They had to do air to air refuelling. One of the planes was parked as far away from the living quarters as possible and still made marks in the asphalt. That's how HOT it was. What about the Air crew, who had to fly through these clouds? What about the ground crew who had to clean and work on these planes? Les was an engineer and worked on the engines which didn't get cleaned after every flight. They were still working on them when they got home until the engine had done it's hours and had to be replaced. All the other bits and pieces they had to work on? What about them? Why did he all of a sudden get so ill that I have times that I am afraid that I'm loosing him? It is my thought it all goes back to 1974/77

I can well understand how you are all feeling right now and how the people of Iraq and Afghanistan will be thinking and are being afraid as well, especially the Service personell. Ours are with them as well and they are using the bullets as well! I am just too scared for all of them after seeing my husband, what's going on with him and I've seen the children born in Iraq the last few years!
 

AniMae Chi (357)
Monday February 28, 2011, 1:13 am
petition signed.

Thanx Dandelion for fwd.
 

Catherine Ignatowski (80)
Monday February 28, 2011, 1:34 am
Why musr man destroy everything??? It's sad.
 

Kerrie G. (135)
Monday February 28, 2011, 1:35 am
Noted, thanks.
 

Past Member (0)
Monday February 28, 2011, 1:39 am
nuclear weapons, war and nuclear power are dangers that could destroy humanity. Everyone must fight this.
 

Matloob ul Hasan (81)
Monday February 28, 2011, 1:42 am
Noted, thanks.
 

KrassiAWAY B. (175)
Monday February 28, 2011, 1:52 am
Very important! Noted, petition signed. Thank you Just and Dandelion for sharing.
 

KrassiAWAY B. (175)
Monday February 28, 2011, 1:56 am
You cannot currently send a star to Jelica and Agnes H. because you have done so within the last week
 

Past Member (0)
Monday February 28, 2011, 2:45 am
We have banned land mines, we are trying to ban nuclear weapons ---Let's us ban war!
 

Arild Warud (151)
Monday February 28, 2011, 3:25 am
Signed,thanks "C"
 

Gail Lopez (65)
Monday February 28, 2011, 4:13 am
Excellent article. Signed, noted, shared. Thank you.
 

Kenneth L. (321)
Monday February 28, 2011, 5:05 am
Good video Carole, one full of good reason and data and no hysteria or hype. How refreshing!
Radiation from weapons used as armor piercing missiles and bullets against tanks etc. can definitely harm people in residual amounts IMO.
Depleted uranium used in this way should not be allowed. Should be banned.
Doesn't matter what country uses them or in what country they use them.
I'm sure if they want to wage war they can find many other alternatives than this type of weapon.

 

Denise P. (65)
Monday February 28, 2011, 5:07 am
Gladly signed. Noted. Thank you Just Carole.
 

Susanne OFFLINE (23)
Monday February 28, 2011, 6:04 am
Hello Carole, thank you so much for giving us the chance to sign the Petition & thanks to dear Sheryl for passing it also on! YOU BOTH ROCK IN A BIG WAY!!
 

Abo r. (94)
Monday February 28, 2011, 6:22 am
Thank you Abedessalam for forwarding
Thank you Just Carole for posting
Noted and signed the following 2 petitions too mentioned in your posts Just and Jelica .

Petition to ban the use of depleted Uranium
Campaign: International Petition to Ban Uranium Weapons
 

Brenda Towers (0)
Monday February 28, 2011, 6:50 am
What goes around, comes around!
 

patricia lasek (317)
Monday February 28, 2011, 7:26 am
Thank you, Carole, for a striking video. I've signed the petitions posted here.

I agree that we should ban all War!
 

Ben Oscarsito (346)
Monday February 28, 2011, 7:31 am
Thank You, Dear Carole!
Signed the petition...
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/573/petition-to-ban-the-use-of-depleted-uranium/
 

Kathy Javens (104)
Monday February 28, 2011, 7:32 am
Noted, signed and shared. Many thanks to Carole for this very interesting video. I feel that THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE!!!!! For all who live on this planet, this abomination must be stopped. And to think that our own government is involved in this. Is anybody out there surprised??? This is another big reason to ban all wars.
 

Maura Graham (41)
Monday February 28, 2011, 7:33 am
Thanks, Carole and to you too, Agnes for the forward. Signed and noted.
 

Past Member (0)
Monday February 28, 2011, 8:00 am
Thank you. Noted. Signed petition--- #16,693 10:57 am February 28 DiAnnaNoFwds Kruse
And tweeted.
 

Vikram Chhabra (394)
Monday February 28, 2011, 8:09 am
Noted and signed the petition.
 

Trish GEIDEL (214)
Monday February 28, 2011, 8:25 am
Noted, Signed Posted & Shared !!!
Dangerous, Deadly & Lethal !!!
What were they thinking???
NOT about the future, that's for sure!!!
 

Sarah Z. (10)
Monday February 28, 2011, 8:40 am
Thank you.
 

Natalie Away J. (125)
Monday February 28, 2011, 8:48 am
Noted, watched video and signed petition, thanks for the article Carole, and Dandelion for forwarding. Dust alone is bad enough, but toxic dust like this is deadly.
 

Angela Dubie (306)
Monday February 28, 2011, 8:48 am
Everyone is missing the real point here!
Depleted uranium can only become a weapon, we allow uranium to be mined and depleted!
Nuclear power is the stupidest thing mankind has ever done, because of it's waste! It has a half life of 50,000 years, yet they cry that smoking is bad for our health! Hypocrits and vipers have created this problem in the first place, to the point that i believe that god put mankind here to create toxic waste, that will become nuclear power crystals down the road for the future!
The waste from these power plants, being deadly was suppose to be strictly regulated and watched over, and we can see how good of job they are doing!
Even if we quit producing depleted uranium today, there is still millions of tons of this stupidity to deal with, and it is worth nothing sitting in it's vaults, but worth millions to terrorists!
Smokers are being held accountable for their second hand smoke, while allowing the real polluters to pettle their second hand depleted byproducts to the higgest bidders, or an unsuspecing public and with the byproducts of making alluminum...sodium flourite, that they put in our drinking water!
Depleted uranium is also in smoke detectors, and the new mandated Chinese lightbulbs!
The only thing that you can make from fossil fuel that you can't make with Hemp is polution, but polution appears to be legal!
Depleted tires, cans and packageing litters our road ways, with no accountability to it's man-u-factures, yet they want to hold consumers accountable for second hand smoke...B.S.
Our governments, business and science has created this problem, and it is time to hold them accountable!
Make the tire producers buy back all of their depleted tires, and make every gram of depleted uranium accounted for, and for all of our sakes outlaw mineing it and depleting it a crime against humanity!
Legalize Hemp and it's 50,000 uses, and end the need for corporate terrorists, by outlawing corporations, that are creating this certain death in the first place!
 

John Goodspeed (79)
Monday February 28, 2011, 8:59 am
I didn't know that "depleated" uranium was still radioactive. Thanks for bringing me up to speed on the issue.

Of course radioactive objects scattered all over former battle sites would pose a hazzard to people and animals who live or work near them and, just like abandoned land mines, should always be removed and rendered safe. In today's world, where government is too timid about levying necessary taxes, legislators are bound to complain about the cost of a removal program, but that should be no excuse. The stuff must be recovered.

My suggestion would be to not use it in the first place.
 

Shaheen N. (58)
Monday February 28, 2011, 10:23 am
Noted and thanks Carole for the petition link. Signed.
Thanks Sheryl for forwarding it.
 

Marta Away (55)
Monday February 28, 2011, 10:37 am
Noted and signed the petition. Thanks Just C. for posting.
 

Jim Phillips (3205)
Monday February 28, 2011, 10:46 am
Looks like I signed the petiton already.

The people who have been exposed to depleted uranium includes civilians & soldiers; they need
help the most. There are now children being born with defects of all kinds. Witness Chernobyl.

TY, Just "C".
.
 

John Farnham (53)
Monday February 28, 2011, 10:53 am
This is, unfortunately, not a new story. In Hawaii in the 1940's tests were made trying to deliver nuclear shells via artillery ! A secret Japanese site carried out experiments in remote China in WW II using radioactive materials as WMD. And the prepared 'military necessity 'rationale' has never overcome the missing scruples of the Military Industrial Complex. For those who recognize Mussolini's description of Fascism as authoritative...this is why we must petition 'until we are blue in the face', expecting little except vilification in return.
This is the 'sanitized version. Reports from Fallujah in Iraq, the Balkans, Afghanistan exceed horrific and revolting in their impact : yet they are really an 'improvement' on Agent Orange from the maker of Roundup.
Some of this is nightmare material.
http://opitslinkfest.blogspot.com/2009/08/uranium-mining-and-depleted.html
 

Natividad P. (104)
Monday February 28, 2011, 11:47 am
Noted and signed. Thank you Carole
 

Mary P. (157)
Monday February 28, 2011, 12:07 pm
Thanks Carol; its so sad that life comes so cheap, in today's world. America being the Super-Power; should be the Protector of the worlds people; but instead it has become a TERRORIST STATE that invades, maimes and destroys millions of innocent lives, without any repurcussions to bear. They are not answerable to anyone; as a result they do what they please and have become a power hungry and evil force, which only chases wealth, in every nook and corner of the world, for the sole purpose of expanding the wealth of the Elite Few. To them, the lives of your soldiers, and the citizens of countries they attack, means absolutely nothing as long as their PERSONAL wealth(oil) is secured.

SAY NO!!! ENUFF IS ENUFF!!! NO MORE WARS!!! NO MORE MURDERS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE OF THE WORLD!!!

If your soldiers refuse to fight there will be NO MORE WARS!!!

Do you think, the Elite Few will ever RISK THE LIVES OF THEIR OWN FAMILIES or go FIGHT WARS themselves??? NEVER!!!; so if there is no one to go and do their dirty deeds, then obviously they will be FORCED to STOP these unpatriotic and unprovoked wars on innocent people!!!.

SORRY FOLKS!!! JUST WISHFUL THINKING!!! IF ONLY IT COULD BECOME A REALITY! WOW! IT WOULD BE LIKE A DREAM CUM TRUE! NO MORE WARS EVER!!! PLEASE DONT WAKE ME FOLKS! BETTER TO LIVE IN A DREAM THAN THIS SAD REALITY! LOL!.

TAKE care folks ; all the best; peace and love to all.
 

Just Carole (341)
Monday February 28, 2011, 12:12 pm

Yes, Mary. That is frustratingly/infuriatingly true!

But, we must continue to fight! Unlike the government's choice to keep its citizens ignorant, the opposite is true for those who resist. The more people are enlightened, the better our chances for solidarity.

 

Mm M. (444)
Monday February 28, 2011, 12:50 pm
#101 right now, signed and noted and thank you Just C for getting this out there...

Dande and Deborah thank you also for the forward....Just C...Always, good to know what is going on, certainly it is not in the newspaper, and most of the time, can't find it on the TV...

YOU ROCK!
 

Stan Joseph (8)
Monday February 28, 2011, 1:48 pm
Signed...a graveyard for every corpse.
 

Alicia v. (181)
Monday February 28, 2011, 2:02 pm
Signed and Noted. Greed, madness, Idiocy, Hate plus extras are ruling our beautiful World. Why don't they create clean Love and let it flow? No conscience.
 

Just Carole (341)
Monday February 28, 2011, 2:05 pm

The more I learn about the greed of the elitists, the more I understand why they use conscience -- as a way to control the masses -- while actually holding those who "buy in" to such standards in disdain.

 

Nancy Welch (65)
Monday February 28, 2011, 5:16 pm
Thanks Dandelion and Carole for sharing. Noted and signed!
 

Patricia Geller (34)
Monday February 28, 2011, 9:48 pm
Noted and signed, thanks
 

Calle J. (70)
Monday February 28, 2011, 10:43 pm
Appears, I have signed already.
Carole:
Sorry, for viewing this utube page I would have to permit access to Googlesyndication, doubleclick.net and ytimg.net.
NoScript add on giving even a warning!
And I definitly do not want to have tracking cookies on my computer.
Everyone should distrust these surveillance corporations.
Co-operating with NSA, CIA and possibly other secret services, spying on their own.
 

Calle J. (70)
Monday February 28, 2011, 10:52 pm

If anyone in here can help: I need a medical testimony or a medical prove what DU causing to human health.
There are a few groups discussions here on this topic and albeit I contacted some of the autors of certain educational articles of this real threat, I could not find something like medical evidence, conclusions, this abhorrent deformations are caused by Depleted Uranium.

John Goodspeed: Decay meter time of this stuff is billions of years and the dust blows away contaminating the whole planet already.
Also this could be a reason for the Golf War 's veteran diseases.
For further information check the web, where this ammunition of mass destruction has been used and STILL IS!!!

Thanks Carole for this article - the chance to sign a petition and Mary P. for directing me here!
 

Parvez Zuberi (7)
Monday February 28, 2011, 11:23 pm
Thanks for the article very use full info
 

Julie W. (20)
Monday February 28, 2011, 11:37 pm
This is not something I was aware of, so thank you Carole for enlightening me. I have signed the petition.
 

Mac R. (289)
Tuesday March 1, 2011, 9:00 am
Thanks for bringing this to us Carole. As I talked about on the Fallujah anniversary thread of Peasant Diva's, there will be no justice for the people of Fallujah, and there will be no tracking of the illnesses that OUR soldiers will have brought back with them from physically surrounding Fallujah for three weeks while generals who never went near the slaughter stationed them while they dropped DP and white sulpher bombs on the trapped people. If the American people actually knew that their military leaders used these bombs on helpless civilians AND exposed our sons to the same bombs, they would be horrified. We called Saddam a monster for gassing the Kurds while we at that very moment dropped DP and white phosphorus bombs on Fallujah and slaughtered the majority of its population. And of course, no news teams were allowed anywhere near the city to witness the aftermath.

If we as a people can take our government back from the corporations/military industrial complex, then there will be a lot of people held accountable for many, many atrocities.
 

Parsifal Rain Satori (111)
Tuesday March 1, 2011, 10:14 am

There are 25 different uranium isotopes and 3 isomeres in uranium.
This one, used in DEPLETED URANIUM has a decay meter of 4,468billion years.
(Different to the data provided in the - btw excellent video)

Excellent comments on this extraordinary but highly displaces and kept silent matter of concern
 

wooddragon xx (88)
Tuesday March 1, 2011, 11:24 am
Carole thank you for my green star.

Stay, don't go Mary P... stay... you can join me too... La le la le la la....

Wouldn't it be nice....

I think all your comments are great and truly, if I had time, I would give you all green stars. So, please take this comment as a Green star to you all. May you be Bessed with Fun & Giggles....

Peace to you all...
wooddragon
 

Ben Oscarsito (346)
Tuesday March 1, 2011, 1:51 pm
...When 15 MILLION members CARE2 make a difference...WOW!!!
(seewhatImean...huh...???)
No, seriously; -Just imagine what difference ONE Million members could make...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJE_Sc1Wags
 

Bill C. (97)
Tuesday March 1, 2011, 4:30 pm
Duly noted and petition signed. Thanks for posting, *C* and thank you for forwarding, Dandelion.
 

bj. shaw (61)
Tuesday March 1, 2011, 4:39 pm
great animation and moral dilemma civilians always surfer as collateral damage in war
 

Angela Dubie (306)
Tuesday March 1, 2011, 6:29 pm
Mac, the scary thing is, what if we can't regain our republic? The world sees America as one entity, not a rouge government at war against it's own people as well! When the world retaliates against us, our supposed government, will be out of harms way, in underground bunkers, foreign retreates, underwater cities or the space station, and we the people will be heald accountable for our governments sins of terror!
Are we responsible for our government and their actions? YES WE ARE!
 

Angelika R. (143)
Tuesday March 1, 2011, 8:55 pm
I was going to say pretty much the same as Parsifal already did, agreed.Thank you much, Carole for this!

Here's a reminder-fits in there well now- to take action about the planned uranium mining in the Grand Canyon, so please sign /send letter!
http://www.care2.com/news/member/395605442/2734275 - Help Protect the Grand Canyon From Uranium Mining
 

Dalia H. (1272)
Tuesday March 1, 2011, 9:03 pm
Noted and Thank You so much my Beloved Just Carole.
GOD Bless You!
HAVE A VERY BLESSED NIGHT EVERYBODY!
Much Love and Light,
B.D♥
 

Dalia H. (1272)
Tuesday March 1, 2011, 9:04 pm
Sending a Green Star is a simple way to say "Thank you"
You cannot currently send a star to Just because you have done so within the last week.
Sending you My Love instead Sweet Heart.
B.D♥
 

Henriette Matthijssen (145)
Tuesday March 1, 2011, 11:34 pm
Thanks Carol, Watched video, Signed both petitions. Thanks Parsifal for the forward.
 

Ben Oscarsito (346)
Wednesday March 2, 2011, 3:52 am
The CARE2 Petition "Ban the use of depleted Uranium" now has 119 signatures...
...Un-freaking-believable!!!
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/573/petition-to-ban-the-use-of-depleted-uranium/
 

Bonnie A. (76)
Wednesday March 2, 2011, 12:05 pm
Thanks Just Carole! Signed and noted and shared. This is such an important (though silent) issue!
 

Mandi T. (418)
Wednesday March 2, 2011, 12:59 pm
Thanks for the post Carole and Sheryl for the forward. Petition signed! X
 

Bruce Eyster (62)
Friday March 4, 2011, 11:42 pm
Noted and petition signed , with Thanks , Carole .
@ Barb Cat ; I was in New York when the planes hit those towers and my first thoughts were : " We are now at War and I hope there were no chemical bombs , in those planes ! "
 

Mm M. (444)
Sunday March 6, 2011, 12:59 pm
Goodness Just C went to Ben's link to the petition and sadly it was only 128 out of (I forgot) but what????
 

Just Carole (341)
Sunday March 6, 2011, 1:07 pm

Yup! But, in fairness, when I discovered the petition, I was only signer #25. (For some reason, the author of the petition never promoted it.)

 

Mm M. (444)
Sunday March 6, 2011, 1:12 pm
Could be that TODAY being a weekend and a SUNDAY we are just not getting the correct #'s? UMMM
 

Just Carole (341)
Sunday March 6, 2011, 1:18 pm

No. I've seen this happen many times before.

When some people post a petition, I don't think they realize that, in order for it to be successful, they have a responsibility to actively promote it. In this case, the petition was started in September 2010; and I (Signer #25) found it (February 27, 2011) when looking for one that needed signatures to go with this news submission.

(Worse? The author's signature goal is an unattainable 50,000!)

What can I say?

 

Mm M. (444)
Sunday March 6, 2011, 1:20 pm
Thank you Just C...not going to track anymore...was waiting for a reply.

50,000 with Care 2 is attainable, but sadly I do agree with you it is a very high # to try to get people to sign.

 

Trish K. (93)
Monday March 7, 2011, 3:04 pm
Noted & Signed
 

Shailja Mukhtyar (79)
Wednesday March 9, 2011, 11:24 am
As if we need to speak for those that can not... for the real victims, w/ maximum ill effects, their families, & friends... as those places have less resources, & often dictators that wont bother to look after the poor public.
 

SANDRA R. (147)
Thursday March 10, 2011, 4:04 pm
Noted and signed. Thank you Just.
 

LucyKaleido ScopeEyes (78)
Saturday November 5, 2011, 4:30 am
Over 200 notes, but somehow I missed this back in February. (Probably the time you were not speaking to me...)

Well, this issue is back in the news because Nov 6th is the International Day of Action Against DU Weapons & a different film is having a special showing, as part of the many worldwide events being organized to mark the day. :

From the International Coalition to Ban Uranium Weapons: USA: Washington DC - Public meeting and film screening 16th Nov: The American University Community Action and Social Justice Coalition invites you to learn about how radioactive waste is being used in wars. - The documentary 'URANIO 238 – The Pentagonīs Dirty Pool', produced by Pablo Ortega, won the prize for best short documentary in the Uranium Film Festival, which took place May 22 to 28 in Rio de Janeiro, Brasil. URANIO 238 had also won best documentary in the Costa Rican Movie and Video Festival in 2009.

(this last link contains info on the film & links to YouTube where it can be viewed in segments)
 

LucyKaleido ScopeEyes (78)
Monday November 7, 2011, 2:12 am
I've just discovered a new post by a new C2 member from Brazil, Marcia:

Wouldn't it be a great way of welcoming her if we all noted her post, on the Uranium Film Festival 2012, held in Rio de Janeiro, only its 2nd year? (Check out the films shown for the 1st year on the festival site she's posted: there was 'When the Dust Settles', 'Uranio 238', 'the Return of Navajo Boy' & many others that I don't know of.)

A member only since Saturday (Nov 6th), this may very well be her first post, too!
 
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