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Dennis Kucinich's Address to Congress on the War in Libya

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"We are not naïve about the existence of forces in the world which work against peace and against human security, but it is our fervent wish that we shall never become like those whom we condemn as lawless and without scruples."

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Carole Sarcinello (338)
Thursday March 31, 2011, 1:37 pm

Please read very carefully the information and advice Dennis is trying valiantly to impart to his fellow Representatives, reminding them of their duties.

My own added quote:
"Reflect how you are to govern a people who think they ought to be free, and think they are not. Your scheme yields no revenue; it yields nothing but discontent, disorder, disobedience; and such is the state of America, that after wading up to your eyes in blood, you could only end just where you begun; that is, to tax where no revenue is to be found, to — my voice fails me; my inclination indeed carries me no farther — all is confusion beyond it."
Edmund Burke - 1774


Barbara W (342)
Thursday March 31, 2011, 2:05 pm
I will add what another great mind understood.
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, make violent revolution inevitable.” JFK

Bernie Sanders and Dennis Kucinich stand alone among the thorns that challenge the very sanity of this nation!

Carole Sarcinello (338)
Thursday March 31, 2011, 2:11 pm

I have always had a great deal of respect for Mr. Kucinich . . . but, never more than I do now. It is not with a small amount of courage that he insists on standing his ground and attempting (with few others joining him) to hold this out-of-control Congress to their responsibilities to uphold the Constitution!


Constance F (418)
Thursday March 31, 2011, 2:35 pm
Thank you for your post, Carole. A gazillion stars to you, but star quota. Another control issue. And a righteous comment added by Barbara by JFK. Absolutely.

Sheryl G (363)
Thursday March 31, 2011, 2:35 pm
Good for you for posting this Carole and for Dennis Kucinich for standing up and speaking this. I agree with Barbara, Bernie Sanders and Dennis Kucinich challenge the insanity of this nation. There are a few other lonely voices in the Winds, but why so few? So few in the Leadership positions because so few speak out from the general public.

I'm on several threads already saying, "here we go again." President Obama may make a joke about himself and having received the Nobel Peace Prize, but I find no joke in this at all. Sure my heart breaks for the citizens of Libyia that are facing the horrible conditions upon them, no compassionate human being wouldn't feel this.

But do we need to turn our back on our own people and Constitution to drop Cruise missiles in at $600,000 a pop while asking our Seniors to cut back, asking children of poor families to do without even more while WIC is cut, I mean, when do we take care of our own?

And why isn't Congress asked first? We elected a President NOT a King. Frankly I'm not seeing much change between the last Administration and this one.

A couple statements in the article stood out for me.

Will we become a nation that observes our Constitution only in matters of convenience?

How can we pretend to hold other sovereigns to fundamental legal principles through wars in foreign lands if we do not hold our own presidents to fundamental legal principles at home?


Bette M (91)
Thursday March 31, 2011, 2:48 pm
Well worthreading!!

Plant & protect Danny's trees for life in 2011.........

Barb K (1688)
Thursday March 31, 2011, 3:12 pm
Dennis Kucinich would make a good president. TY *C*!

Kit B (276)
Thursday March 31, 2011, 3:34 pm

Not since WWll has our nation been in danger of invasion, yet we create ever more excuses for war. Not wars to protect this nation, but wars that feed the growing meg-international corporate interests, war means death and destruction to you and I, war means profit to others. We have clear evidence that Korea and Vietnam posed no threat to America, they were but unfinished desires from WWII and so the United States stands as complicit in the murders not only of it's own young men sent to die for the lust of power and money but millions of humans whose only misdeed was living on soil desired by the United States.

I truly did and want to believe this was a rebellion of the people, instigated by a need and desire for freedom, for many of the Libyan people, I still do believe that. Is it however, not more then coincidence that the man leading this "rebellion" has lived in the United States, (in Virginia) for 20 years with no visible means of income and yet supporting a large family? Living by the way not far from McLean, Virginia. I rarely accept coincidences, and certainly not in the game of international politics.

I do not believe nor accept the excuse that this bombing mission is in any way a "humanitarian mission" this is about grabbing still more oil reserves, nor do I believe Gaddafi is our enemy but rather a recalcitrant puppet and when not marching to the tune, is punished.

My deep thanks to Carole for allowing me to read this wonderful speech again and to a fine and true patriot Dennis Kucinich.

Ian MacLeod (79)
Thursday March 31, 2011, 3:47 pm
If Kucinich tries to run again he'll either be culled by the MSM again or have an unfortunate accident. The oligarchs cannot afford a president like him any more than they could one like Kennedy. Here's the comment I left at OpEd News:

They know who pays to get them elected, and what they're elected to do - pay back those investments by the corporations and their 'elite' owners, whom they hope to join. The Republicans have recently shown us all what they think of us: they lied to get elected, with the help of millions in contributions, promising jobs and other things that we, the Middle Class that has been under attack for decades now desperately need. The moment they had power, they did the opposite of what they promised, as did the President. They are protected. The SCOTUS refuses to rule on the necessary cases, or rules, against the Constitution and precedent long set, in the favor of the oligarchs interests.

We know Executive Orders can NOT make law; that power is reserved to Congress, but still the use of EOs has amounted to law by decree. They - and the President - know that the President has NO power to take us to war. They allow it anyway, just as they allowed the power to create money to go a private bank that does NOT have America's interests at heart and never did. The Constitution, ALL of our "rights" have been subverted, PERverted, leaving us with revocable privileges, but no rights. We are ruled, not governed. The recall of some governors needs to be expanded, and those in Congress who clearly work for someone other than us must also be recalled - and some charged with high treason. The same goes for others.

This is our last chance to return to the representative republic the Founders designed. If we fail to do whatever we MUST to remove the power brokers, the traitors, the thieves and other destroyers holding office and shoveling every asset there is to the 'elites', America will be a theocratic fascist oligarchy ruled by a puppet dictator. We are frighteningly close to that now. With modern technology and the totally sociopathic natures of the oligarchs and those in their employ, America will make the dictatorships of the past look downright benign.



Carole Sarcinello (338)
Thursday March 31, 2011, 3:50 pm

Frightening words, Ian . . . but, with much truth.

It's for those very reasons that I would be reluctant to see Dennis in a higher office. (We have a history of assasinations of leaders who speak too loudly about the rights of citizens.)


Cary Mostly-Away (94)
Thursday March 31, 2011, 4:00 pm
He is definitely on a roll.
Thank you Dennis for standing up and speaking the truth when others won't.

War earns big profits for a few corporations at the expense of human life everywhere. Go get em Dennis, and hopefully the cowards in Congress will join your efforts and expose the foreign policies designed with profit in mind for the CFR members.

Also support Ron Paul's efforts to audit the Federal Reserve, going on NOW.
This is the head of the serpent.

Carole Sarcinello (338)
Thursday March 31, 2011, 4:02 pm
I was fortunate enough to watch Dennis Kucinich's speech live today on CSPAN, but, for those who'd like to see his powerful delivery, it's here (in 5 parts):
Congressman Dennis Kucinich's Address to Congress on the War in Libya 1
Congressman Dennis Kucinich's Address to Congress on the War in Libya - 2
Congressman Dennis Kucinich's Address to Congress on the War in Libya - 3
Congressman Dennis Kucinich's Address to Congress on the War in Libya - 4
Congressman Dennis Kucinich's Address to Congress on the War in Libya - 5

Sheryl G (363)
Thursday March 31, 2011, 4:12 pm
You cannot currently send a star to Kit because you have done so within the last week.
Barbara and Carole.....sorry, you should get a star, but all out.

Why are we still giving Foreign Aid to places like Saudia Arabia while we have people at home going without and are being asked to sacrifice? While humanitarian aid still holds priority, developmental aid is quite another story. Most Americans do not realize is that the vast majority of the recipients of the of US Foreign Aid routinely vote against the wishes of the United States in the United Nations at an average rate of 74%.

For over 60 years U.S. foreign aid has been judged by its intentions, not its results. Foreign aid programs have been perpetuated and expanded not because they have succeeded, but because giving foreign aid still seems like a good idea. But foreign aid has rarely done anything that countries could not have done for themselves. And it has often encouraged the recipient governments' worst tendencies--helping to underwrite programs and policies that have starved thousands of people and derailed struggling economies.

Between this and war after war.....and as Kit so well stated, these wars are not to protect our Country from invasion but just excuses to go to wars. Ask a surgeon what to do when something hurts and he most likely will say to remove it, after all he is a surgeon and gets paid only when he is performing surgery. As we have all these weapons of war, the excuse to use them......since we have them, will play over and over even against our best interest or well wishes.

We need to start funding the programs that matter to the people like health care, jobs programs, food and fuel assistance programs, and stop funneling in billions into the war machine. If we don't have so many weapons then we won't be so eager to jump out front and use them.



Past Member (0)
Thursday March 31, 2011, 4:16 pm
Thank You Dear Carole*
You cannot currently send a star to Just because you have done so within the last week

Catherine Ignatowski (80)
Thursday March 31, 2011, 4:19 pm
Great article Carole, Dennis sshould be president, I know that I would vote for him.

Past Member (0)
Thursday March 31, 2011, 4:29 pm
Noted, thanks Carole. All out of stars for you also. I agree...Dennis for president.

Michael Carney (217)
Thursday March 31, 2011, 4:48 pm
Dennis is a voice of reason, and truth...He would make a great President, which is why I think they'd fix it so he could never run...

Barbara W (342)
Thursday March 31, 2011, 5:06 pm
You cannot currently send a star to Dandelion because you have done so within the last week.

Past Member (0)
Thursday March 31, 2011, 5:09 pm
During Bush's "term", I sent, as part of a large program......a PINK SLIP to Congress. It garnered the attention of over 3 Million US citizens and we all paid $25 or so for our own Pink Slip sent to all of Congress, FedEx.
We need to support Kucinich in his courageous plea for Congress to do their duty. If we have to embarass them, so be it. There should be 430+ Congressmen and women saluting their own rights to do what Dennis is doing. I'm ready to send him my official support to make Congress do their jobs......are you?

Phyllis P (237)
Thursday March 31, 2011, 5:31 pm
I just have one question? How many more wars are we going to fight at one time?

Christina Bolan (19)
Thursday March 31, 2011, 5:37 pm
thanks...will share on twitter and facebook...

Christina Bolan (19)
Thursday March 31, 2011, 5:40 pm

Yvonne White (229)
Thursday March 31, 2011, 5:45 pm
I Love Dennis Kucinich! The Ideal Liberal Democrat in a field of posers!:)
Somehow I think this Libya thing is just another distraction from the nuclear melt down going on in Japan - I don't think Obama is really interested in helping or hurting Libya's people... it just feels half-hearted & half-a$$ed, too Bu$h League..:(

Pat B (356)
Thursday March 31, 2011, 6:42 pm
Thank you, Carole for this.Excellent comments, all. I'm saving this address by Mr. Kucinich, and re-reading it. We can't afford another war, not while our country is in dire straits. His words speak the truth for many Americans. For the millions of $$ spent in war, as in wars past, and also for today, we must stand firm, and commit to helping this nation and it's people. We owe it to our sons and daughters, and to (1889–1893)the next generation.
"We Americans have no commission from God to police the world." Benjamin Harrison -


Pat B (356)
Thursday March 31, 2011, 6:44 pm
Ooops...Benjamin Harrison - 1889-1893. Sorry about that.

Carole Sarcinello (338)
Thursday March 31, 2011, 6:45 pm

Thank you, Pat (my very dear friend).

You know very well the price this country pays in more ways than monetarily.


Pat B (356)
Thursday March 31, 2011, 6:48 pm
Aye, Capt'n, I most certainly do!! xox

Robert S (111)
Thursday March 31, 2011, 6:53 pm
Law should be king...and there should be no other.

Carole Sarcinello (338)
Thursday March 31, 2011, 6:55 pm

Ahhhhhh, Robert. (I just KNEW you would actually read the words.)


Robert S (111)
Thursday March 31, 2011, 7:07 pm
I read and listen still...absorbing the wise and lonely words of this brave man. Thank you so much Carole and everyone else rising and shining here. Great comments.

Carole Sarcinello (338)
Thursday March 31, 2011, 7:10 pm

Ya know, I picked up on that too. But, the fact that he stood alone -- with his proud, defiant, righteous resolve -- only made me admire him more (and the rest of them not at all).


Ian MacLeod (79)
Thursday March 31, 2011, 7:23 pm
"We can't afford another war, not while our country is in dire straits." That's part of the purpose of these wars, Gran: to put us in debt, in a fashion that's profitable to the corporations, so deep we'll never see daylight. Someone else said the Fed was "the head of the serpent" - it isn't; it's the tooth of the serpent, and we've been bitten badly. It only took the Fed four years to bankrupt the United States; the 'deal" they operate under is insane! The head of the serpent is named Rothschild, and that family has no country. They figure they own most countries, and the others "of breeding" who are in the Central Banking system with them are the same. The American people have been scammed over and over again. We pay FAR more for medicines, telephone service and other things than anyone else on earth, and we're paid less. To top that off, they've deliberately destroyed the economy, the industrial base, the educational system, and allowed our infrastructure to erode so badly that when they trigger other collapses, that too will fall apart. Why, they'll probably have to call in the U.N to force Americans to start repairing what can be repaired.

Remember that "eternal war" is part of Machiavelli's plan for taking over and running a country his way. A people who feel threatened will accept privations, and having a brainwashed military that will fight even its own people will keep them in line. We have very little time remaining.


Robert S (111)
Thursday March 31, 2011, 7:41 pm
Someone has to do it. He is speaking truth to power with honesty not just playing political games and marching lockstep. Dennis is the man. He is speaking up to this done by a Democratic President. This is what an American who swore an oath to uphold the constitution does, and this is what it looks like to take on your own when he's wrong and breaks our law. We sorely need men/women such as this.

ChanTlalok Rain C (363)
Thursday March 31, 2011, 8:01 pm
thanks Just Carole, great comments.

Susan L (150)
Thursday March 31, 2011, 8:41 pm
There are SO MANY remarkably good comments here, that I don't know much else can be said. I too, would vote for Dennis if given the opportunity. He has stood firmly in several causes lately that support the American people and speaks the truth. I stand in very good company here!

Past Member (0)
Thursday March 31, 2011, 9:06 pm
Noted and thanks carole.
Kucinich was my first pick for President until he lost the primary because the media blocked him from the debates .
I think there are only a few good men in government to Kucinich , Sanders and Weiner seems to be also.
I agree with Ian that window of oportunity is closing fast .

Carole Sarcinello (338)
Thursday March 31, 2011, 9:21 pm

True, Linda.

(Sorry, but can't send you another green star.)


Linda h (86)
Thursday March 31, 2011, 9:43 pm
I really love Dennis Kuchinich.

Kathy Chadwell (354)
Thursday March 31, 2011, 9:54 pm
Dennis Kucinich is the only one I trust
Thank you Carole
Rep. Dennis Kucinich: Congress' Lone Voice against the AETA PDF Print E-mail
Vegan Congressman releases statement opposing unconstitutional bill

Out of the 100 Senators and 435 Representatives that comprise the United States Congress, Representative Dennis Kucinich (D-OH) is the only one to have voted against the Animal Enterprise Terrorism Act (AETA), a recently-approved bill that threatens Americans' basic civil liberties. As one of the more than 160 members of the Equal Justice Alliance, a national coalition of social advocacy organizations preserving free speech and equal treatment under the law, IDA strongly supports Congressman Kucinich's efforts to safeguard the right to speak and act lawfully against cruelty to animals. We are therefore proud to present Congressman Kucinich's official position on the AETA in his own words:

Carole Sarcinello (338)
Thursday March 31, 2011, 9:57 pm

Thanks so much, Kathy! (I'm so involved in human rights issues that I was totally unaware of his work for animals.)

The more I learn of him . . . the more I admire him and his character.


greenplanet e (155)
Thursday March 31, 2011, 10:04 pm
Dropping bombs on other countries without them attacking isn't "war", it's aggression, invasion, control. The US military is bigger than any other - acts of aggression by the biggest military power on Earth isn't "war", it's already one-sided.

Kathy Chadwell (354)
Thursday March 31, 2011, 10:05 pm
He's a vegan Carole, & the only candidate ever endorsed by ALF.
Not only for his compassion but for his free thinking outside the box.
Always doing his homework & finding solutions for issues.
The ONLY one to read the patriot act in full. I loved when he asked other members if they had read the entire thing. They said No, he said obviously you didn't. I did and that is why I'm voting against it:) Thank you again Carole

Carole Sarcinello (338)
Thursday March 31, 2011, 10:08 pm

What I love about him most is that, unlike the others, he's never lost touch with the very real feelings of the middle and lower classes.

His integrity is totally intact . . . and it's important to him that it remains that way.


Past Member (0)
Thursday March 31, 2011, 10:28 pm
Dennis is the only candidate I could vote "For".
Every other altrnatve would be a vote "Against" a greater evil.
I hope he goes Independent or challenges Obama.

Kathy Chadwell (354)
Thursday March 31, 2011, 10:33 pm
You cannot currently send a star to John because you have done so within the last week.

Susan L (150)
Thursday March 31, 2011, 10:40 pm
Yes, Thank You Kathy C!! I have always admired Dennis as well, but didn't know about this stand he's taken to protect those who would stand up to protest for humane treatment of animals. This is remarkable - that a Senator would stand alone with honesty and common sense, to say "animal activists are not terrorists." Anymore, those who stand for ANY humane treatment of animals or support human rights are considered to be capable of violence, which simply is not true.

Ian MacLeod (79)
Friday April 1, 2011, 2:25 am
"Anymore, those who stand for ANY humane treatment of animals or support human rights are considered to be capable of violence, which simply is not true. "

Sue D. - I suspect that actually believing that is only for the suckers, like the Tea Party. For Congress and the agencies and the "law" it's just another tool with which to label someone else a "terrorist", and so be able to use the anti-terror laws against them - a nice little shortcut to conviction and punishment without a bothersome trial. If we're not able to stop this monstrous transformation, eventually I expect ANY charges would be under the subheading "terrorism". If it costs the system money it helps the terrorists, so it's terrorism. If it takes an officials time it helps the terrorists, so it's also terrorism. Jaywalking? Terrorism. Shoplifting? Yup: terrorism. They don't need for it to actually make sense. The kind of people who'll believe it are the kind, for the most part, who've been taught all their lives that just because they don't understand it, it doesn't mean it makes no sense. If God's Word or the law make no sense, well, they're just beyond you and you just have to have faith that Someone else DOES understand.

Makes me want to spit.


Arild Gone for now (174)
Friday April 1, 2011, 3:50 am
Thanks for the post "C"

patricia lasek (317)
Friday April 1, 2011, 5:49 am
If only there were more men and women of integrity in politics....

Arielle S (313)
Friday April 1, 2011, 9:00 am
There are tons of "humanitarian causes" out there - odd how the ones we choose always have something in it for us. I keep saying Kucinich is ahead of his time - just imagine if we all could live the way this man thinks we should! What a difference there would be....

Carole Sarcinello (338)
Friday April 1, 2011, 9:08 am

Oh, yeah, Arielle! Wouldn't that be wonderful???

Just think . . . We could actually turn on a CSPAN airing of a session of the House of Representatives and see Democrats and Republicans agree that war is a HUGE waste of money and humanity -- so, they all decided that it's more important to improve the quality of the lives of all citizens by devoting those funds to healthcare, education, sustainable energy sources, etc.

(But, of course, we'd know that it's April 1st, so that couldn't be true.)


Past Member (0)
Friday April 1, 2011, 9:18 am
Every president since Nixon has enjoyed the power of the imperial presidency and actively worked to strengthen the executive branch at the expense of the legislative branch. Obama is certainly no different. He has continued the illegal occupation of two nations and the war crimes that commenced under his predecessor. Now, he is using American military might to interfere in the internal domestic struggle of another sovereign nation, Libya. When will Congress reassert itself against what has become a traditional rite of passage for most presidents since Vietnam: the invasion and devastation of vastly weaker nations primarily for no other reason than to make the president appear relevant? Climate change won't wait for any of us, not even you, Mr. President. Do something constructive for a change.

Kit B (276)
Friday April 1, 2011, 9:22 am

Now really is it any wonder they have gerrymandered his district? To TPTB* Dennis Kucinich is a dangerous man just as is Senator Bernie Sanders - there are just too few voices of honesty and reason.

We can listen to endless rhetoric and fear mongering pouring like hot lava from Washington or we can pay attention to the voices of warning - those few who dare to offer guidance.

** The Powers That Be - ya know the Money in all of it's forms.

Barbara D (70)
Friday April 1, 2011, 9:29 am
Dennis is an island of reason in the sea of insanity which is masquerading as our Congress. Sure hope his staff is keeping an eye on him; they can't be too protective of him given the determination of TPTB to stifle any honest voices. >:-(

Krasimira B (175)
Friday April 1, 2011, 10:10 am
Very interesting comments. Thank you Carole and Dandelion for sharing.

. (0)
Friday April 1, 2011, 10:21 am
A grateful thank you to Dennis for refusing to be silent when most of congress wishes he would just go away....A true voice of reason in a sea of SLIME!

Past Member (0)
Friday April 1, 2011, 10:33 am
Glad to see he's still a fruit-cake.

Carole Sarcinello (338)
Friday April 1, 2011, 10:40 am

(hehehehe . . . and I was just thinking, "I can't believe this story went this far without a dissenting -- however ignorant -- interruption.")


Ian MacLeod (79)
Friday April 1, 2011, 11:01 am
As and ye shall receive, Carole. Hey John - care to elaborate? I'm curious just what about his insistence on Congress actually doing its job you think is crazy. And speaking of crazy, THIS article lays it out with absolute clarity; I'd love to see it spread all over the Net:


Carole Sarcinello (338)
Friday April 1, 2011, 11:32 am

Here, we have an exemplary example of a patriotic American who, despite belonging to the same party as our President, summoned the courage to attempt to educate his colleagues as to an egregious wrong committed by this country's Commander in Chief (with the restrictions specifically set forth in this country's Constitution).

The fact that this would, normally, have been an opportunity immediately siezed by the "other side of the aisle" (Republicans) to denigrate the President, and to even further question his ability to successfully carry out his duties in that position -- BUT WAS NOT -- speaks very loudly about the degree of corruption of those legislators in office of both parties.

Please read and digest the information purveyed by Mr. Kucinich. He took great risks (with no support from his colleagues) to go on record with the TRUTH!


Carole Sarcinello (338)
Friday April 1, 2011, 11:41 am

Things that make you go "Hmmmmmmmm . . ."

Now, WHY didn't the Republicans seize that opportunity?

Because, the issue being questioned was the use of force (war); and the businesses that support them derive a lucrative profit from providing arms, mercenaries and even the clean-up of the aftermath of armed combat.

Don't be deceived. While war is VERY expensive to tax-payers, in lives lost and in tax dollars spent -- and resultantly, programs that benefit citizens being cut due to the costs -- WAR IS A HUGE BUSINESS for the corporations that supply them. And, corporations (due to a bought-and-paid-for SCOTUS) are now "persons."


Carole Sarcinello (338)
Friday April 1, 2011, 11:54 am

Something else to think long and hard about?

Everything that Dennis said, to an audience of his colleagues, was not news to them. They ALL had access to the information he revealed.

WHY was he the only one who informed the citizens of his country, by going on Congressional Record doing so?


Toni C (508)
Friday April 1, 2011, 12:19 pm
Whew, what a great bunch of patriotic Americans we have here! Kudos to each and every one of you. Have you ever stopped to think... why is Kucinich, Sanders and Weiner the only ones we ever hear anything out of? Where are the rest of the Democrats up there on that Hill?
Love Dennis Kucinich and Bernie Sanders... Weiner is a newby, but the little dude has guts... he says the only reason why they'll listen to him is because "he won't sit down and shut up'! I'd love to see Kucinich run for President... Bernie Sanders, won't because he says he's comfortable right where he is... Weiner's a little young and hotheaded... but I don't see any other Democrat that's willing to stand up and fight for people the way these three have. If we're going to get these airheads from to destroying the country we're going to need strong leadership... something, I'm sorry to say, we don't have now!

Carole Sarcinello (338)
Friday April 1, 2011, 12:21 pm

A deep curtsy and resounding "thank you," Toni!


Sheryl G (363)
Friday April 1, 2011, 12:23 pm
You are so correct Carole, War is big business, and just as with the other Big Businesses who pollute our air and spew radiation into our oceans, land, the food chain, they don't want to loose out on one dime in their pocket despite the costs to the world at large.

Oren Lyons, Native American Faithkeeper of the turtle clan of the Onondaga and Seneca Nations of the Iroquois Confederacy, asked on CEO, when do you stop becoming a CEO and start becoming a Grandfather? It is an important question that was put to this CEO who was listing all his reasons for doing this and that. So Oren asked him, if he had any grandchildren, and the man said yes, and it was at that point Oren asked him that question, which the man was so taken aback he couldn't even answer it.

The other members of Congress need to start asking themselves that same question and they need to start getting real, and looking directly into the camera and addressing the entire nation, forget their spin bites and talk like Human Beings.......Beings, it means something.

Those in Congress and the House need to start passing legislation that gets the lobbyist off Capital Hill, out of their pockets so on and so forth. Revise this election system so one doesn't need millions of dollars to be elected. Use the public airways and give all Candidates the same and equal time on radio, internet, and TV, same goes with the written press for six months. Anyone caught buying any extra ad time is disqualified from the race.....period. Then go vote without these tampered with electronic voting machine, use paper ballets again. I'd rather have it take 3 months to count the votes and have a fair election than know who won even before the election is even over.

Shame on all of them who hold elected office that didn't speak up and out about the abuse of Power and I don't care what Party is doing the abusing. They are not doing their jobs......look their own children in the eyes or grandchildren and then go to work. What am I leaving my children? How can I look at them and not stand up and say what I need to say.

As for Dennis being a Fruitcake John, well I'd rather have this Fruitcake in Washington, D.C. than all the rest of them put together. Very few of the elected are standing up for the American people, maybe you've been away and out of your Country too long to have any attachment here anymore. You must have a relative or two back here, or a close friend that you'd like to know that their Constitution is being adhered to and someone in Washington is standing up for their best interest, not just the Corporations best interest.


Carole Sarcinello (338)
Friday April 1, 2011, 12:26 pm

Hear, HEAR, Sheryl (Dandelion)!!!


Carole Sarcinello (338)
Friday April 1, 2011, 12:33 pm

I visit the News Network daily. And, as such, I am presented with so much ANGER . . . Anger about animals abused; and partisan nit-picking by one party against the other; and even anger (and even petitions) complaining about "glitches" in Care2's administration of this site.

But WHERE is the properly-placed ANGER about the fact that (for decades now -- since I've been campaigning against wars since the late '60's ) our CHILDREN are being murdered, by directive of those elected to protect our interests . . . based on LIES! (And they were aware of those lies as they spoke in favor of unjust invasions and the murders of civilians in those countries -- as well as OUR CHILDREN.)

I have no respect for ANY member of Congress who would not stand with Mr. Kucinich. He spoke only truth, and only for the benefit of his country. Those who chose to be silent have given their tacit approval of this despicable behavior -- and NONE of them who did not offer their voices in agreement to his truth should be in office.


Mary R (999)
Friday April 1, 2011, 1:39 pm
Everyone needs to be aware that they are redistricting Dennis out of office. We're getting a new district and have invited him to move to Washington, but his roots and home are in Ohio. He's going to need money, more money than usual. Help keep him in congress...somewhere>>

Ellen W (0)
Friday April 1, 2011, 2:50 pm
There seem to be only a handful of AMerican politicians that are truly on the side of the People and truth. Kucinich tops that list. Bernie Sanders and Barbara Lee and Keith Ellison are there too. Kucinich's speech is to the point and for the greater good.
Can Obama's Nobel Peace Prize be recended?

may Howie (246)
Friday April 1, 2011, 3:03 pm
ty,the price of war is is always too high a price to pay

Ian MacLeod (79)
Friday April 1, 2011, 5:12 pm
"NONE of them who did not offer their voices in agreement to his truth should be in office."

Carole - you'd empty Congress. (Not a bad idea).


resignd Cannot remove (139)
Friday April 1, 2011, 6:22 pm
Great intelligent comments here that I am learning from. Why are there so few voices like Kucinich to speak out. Yes I am afraid they will try to rid him too. We send 3 billion a year to Israel which is more money for war! Paying Israel to persecute and rid the Palestinians.
Afraid he is very right about Obama's failure to get congress approval of military intervention. Why is America playing the primary role when several nations voted for action. I understand that UK only used one or two weapons to take down the air defense, and we seem to have taken over. Yet these Repubs want to defund PBS which has many great programs that are non commercial. That is the key word is that they compete with commercial stations so they are trying to appease the commercial stations. And occasionally they carry a program that exposes truth you don't hear on commercial TV.
We are being conquered from the inside. All laws should be constitutional and pass a review that they are prior to being presented to the congress, and there should be laws that require truth in all politicking, even in campaigning. How can you trust you will get what you voted for? We have no assurances at all.

Tomasz Grabarczyk (0)
Saturday April 2, 2011, 4:06 am
Thanks for this :)

KS Goh (0)
Saturday April 2, 2011, 6:41 am
Thanks for the article.

Robert S (111)
Saturday April 2, 2011, 7:44 am
In his 2002 book, "Perpetual War for Perpetual Peace," Gore Vidal said:

"Our rulers for more than half a century have made sure that we are never to be told the truth about anything that our government has done to other people, not to mention our own."

Rhetorically resisting tyranny, supporting free peoples, and promoting democracy, in fact, masks a destructive, immoral agenda to subjugate and control, no matter the cost in dollars, public welfare, or human lives.

Good link Ian, Thanks.

Robert S (111)
Saturday April 2, 2011, 8:18 am

We're waste deep in the Big Sandy and the Big Fools ( military-Industrial-Pharmaceut­ical Complex and Civilian contractors)say... PUSH ON!

Sheryl G (363)
Saturday April 2, 2011, 8:30 am
Thanks for the links Robert. I had the Dylan one myself ready in wait to pass along, got the Greedy Theives one out first, the shite is just flying in from all directions. What can I say about Pete Seeger, my goodness I had not heard that one in a long long time. Where I lived in Massachusetts, Pete use to come up to those parts a lot, so I heard him play that one live. Thanks for it and also a trip down memory lane.
Dylan also, I was very fortunate to be able to attend a private party after a concert of his. Friend of mine was Manager of this resort in Maine and said Dylan would be staying there and asked if I could attend as guest to the gathering. I was given the ok and I found Dylan to be a most gracious host and I enjoyed the evening as another of my good memories in life.

Past Member (0)
Saturday April 2, 2011, 9:50 pm
Thank you Carole for this. I signed up to get Dennis' emails from his office. And his office has been quite busy lately...I have received copies of all of his letters to his colleagues in Congress regarding why Pres. Obama should not have made the decision to do "flyovers' or anything else re: Libya without the consent of Congress. I received letter after letter. Dennis is an amazine man. I always respond encouraging him to run for President. I wanted change and still have hope, but have been somewhat disappointed. I would support Dennis K. in a heartbeat. What a great man. He and I know of only one other who do not believe in war and who do believe in Personal Freedom, and that is Ron Paul. Both have been against the interaction with Libya, and all of the other wars, and money spent there when we can't help our own people who are losing their homes and can't pay for healthcare or food. Dennis is spectacular! Thanks so much Carole for posting this. I don't have C-Span anymore. I can't afford it. All the best to you. I encourage folks to sign up for Dennis' emails.

Ian MacLeod (79)
Saturday April 2, 2011, 10:59 pm
First, apologies - this isn't the right place for this, but I'm ill at the moment and can't stay at the comp long enough to find the right thread. Anyone who wants is welcome to move this. Seems they've been lying their asses off about Fukashima, folks (and other things). Here's some stuff you should see from

There is now no question that I131, which serves as a marker, just a marker, mind you, for other products of radiation, is now being found in every place that it is looked for in the US. The Governor of Pennsylvania, allowing as how 33,000% the background radiation level, and the allowable US government level of I131 was being found in rainwater in his state said, 'Hey! Don't Worry! Be Happy!' "No one drinks rainwater so there is no threat to human health!"

Meanwhile, in San Francisco, the level of this marker compound, which is a problem on its own, but is indicative of all the other radioactive compounds coming to you from the reactors as well, are 18000% above the legal drinking water limits (Don't Worry! Be Happy! No one drinks tap water!?)

Still no threat to the public, of course, while Cesium 137 and Tellurium 152 are also being found in water and Virginia tells people not to drink the rainwater there.

The nuclear reactors of Fukishima appear to have been leaking continuously into the Pacific Ocean since I131 has been found at the highest level ever measured there: 3355 times the legal limit permitted.
Wait! The US Government, in the form of the EPA is there protecting us! Yes, they are! They are raising the levels of contamination in drinking water that can be present before an alert is sounded “nearly 1000-fold increase for exposure to strontium-90, a 3000 to 100,000-fold hike for exposure to iodine-131; and an almost 25,000 rise for exposure to radioactive nickel-63” as reported by our colleague Mike Adams.

My answer? Right now, as an adult, I would "tank up" on very high quality, bioavailable iodine sources (no, iodized salt will simply not cut it), but NOT sea food from Japan and the Pacific Ocean (for exactly the same reasons that I no longer eat ANYTHING from the Gulf of Mexico - man-made horrific contamination which will contaminate all surviving sea life for God-Alone-Knows-How-Long). But I would keep a weather eye on the situation.

For the kids? I would be very, very close, right now, to adding KI to their daily intake. Not yet, but very, very soon.

Oh, Yes, One Other Option: GET OUT OF DODGE!

If you are in North America and Europe, you WILL be exposed to days, weeks, months, years of radiation. The nuclear reactors at Fukishima will leak radiation for years, according to Japanese experts. You will be down stream of that radiation.

Vaccine Nightmares ... Continued
"Friday, March 25, 2011 - Today, the Washington State legislature passed the back-door forced vaccinations bill that effectively limits parental exemptions, and the West Virginia Supreme Court yesterday found in favor of public health officials barring/expelling from the public schools any child exempted by parents from the unduly heavy CDC-recommended vaccination schedules. This shows that US state governments are as irremediably corrupt as the federal government, and that the American people have no recourse but to exponentially multiply what was recently done in Wisconsin and engage in widespread informal secession from the empire until we have reclaimed our national and individual freedom
and sovereignty. -- REC

Vaccines Being Pushed in an Organized Campaign by Pharmaceutical Cartel Lobbyists in US State Legislatures

Again, apologies for dumping this info here, but I have to go now. Back when I can be.

Sheryl G (363)
Sunday April 3, 2011, 5:49 am
Grrrr.....Care2 didn't add my comment. Well will try it again.

Ian this doesn't surprise me at all with the news on the nuclear and radiation that we were not getting the real story or the truth. When the explosion took place and it was like, oh, it isn't so bad, I'm thinking oh really not so bad. There is a reason they put those buildings around to begin with, so how can it not be so bad when the bloody building is blown apart.

The people of the world better stand up to having any more Nuclear Power Plants built and to dismantle the ones they do have. The people of the USA in particular better get on your feet and do so as we have more than any other Country in the world. Don't believe them when they tell you ours are safer or it can't happen here. I'm sure that is what Japan and Russians were told as well and look what has happened and some of our plants are just like the design in Japan.

So if you have never done any activist work in your life not is most certainly the time to start. Don't sit idle and wait for someone else to do it, you are that someone else. I've been fighting this issue since the early seventies. I placed a story on not long ago called Beyond Nuclear, you can get a lot of useful information from it.
Go to:

Fiona O (565)
Sunday April 3, 2011, 6:13 am
Thank you, Carole. Your posting awakened some desperate thoughts. We only have one Dennis. We only have one Bernie. So we only have two lawmakers who care about the people. If the elites lost their patience in pushing us all towards slavery, it would be so easy to assisinate the only two lawmakers who would never be iin the pocket of the elites.

Robert S (111)
Sunday April 3, 2011, 7:25 am
I feel Ian that Carole would give special dispensation for the insertion of such important headlines/info almost anywhere. This is not a drill.

Carole Sarcinello (338)
Sunday April 3, 2011, 7:37 am

Hehehehe -- Within reason, Robert.

(As long as the poster isn't trying to sell me knock-off designer clothing or badger me to watch free online streaming sports programs.)


Nancy C (806)
Sunday April 3, 2011, 12:25 pm
We've had many forward thinkers who were not allowed their thoughts to fruition. So, (as Ian relayed) , I certainly hope he stays around to be a voice.

resignd Cannot remove (139)
Sunday April 3, 2011, 3:54 pm
Ian, I read a while back that Hillary Clinton is of Rothchild descent. Not sure how long they had Clinton and Hillary groomed for the presidency but Clinton followed Russia Kobachoff and Kennedy and they have photos of him near those two. Hillary's family line must be somewhere to be found on the internet but her position certainly is very powerful and able to help direct this country the way that the world dominatrix want it to go.

Heard on ABC news last week that there is radioactive iodine in the cows milk produced in that area now. But they reported the level was safe, if there is such a thing. Imagine it will be increasing. We have little rain in New Mexico so perhaps we will not be so affected, thinking that the rain will capture the radioactive material in the air and bring it down to the earth, as it circles the planet.

Robert S (111)
Sunday April 3, 2011, 4:52 pm
Nancy C. , I'm not clear. To which "forward thinker" are you referring ? Who is "he"?

Judith, I always wonder why the greedy...and powerful, getting together to attempt to have there way, can not be just attempt and have even more. NO. It has to be made to sound like "conspiracy" when that whole way of looking/speaking of things is ammunition for our enemies, with which to write us off.

Jelica R (144)
Sunday April 3, 2011, 9:43 pm

Not quite on-topic, here is Noam Chomsky Lectures on Modern-Day American at Boston University School of Law and the Boston University Anti-War Coalition on April 24, 2008.

Noam Chomsky, an emeritus professor of linguistics at Massachusetts Institute of Technology and a well-known political activist critical of U.S. foreign policy, traces modern-day American imperialism to its earliest roots, 25 years before the American Revolution, and he explains how the United States has lived up to its reputation as "the most frightening and dangerous country in the world."

Hosted by Boston University School of Law and the Boston University Anti-War Coalition on April 24, 2008.

Video is 2 hours long; 10 min. introduction, 60 min. Chomsky and 50 min, discussion. Wort watching, as well as some other Chomsky's lectures listed on that page.

I finally finished reading Kucinich's address. Thanks for posting, Carole, and great comments, too.

Democracy Now: Rep. Kucinich: Lack of Congressional Approval Could Make Obama’s Libya Attack "Impeachable Offense"

REP. DENNIS KUCINICH: Well, actually, what I’ve said is that he’s exceeded his authority as executive, and I raised a question as to whether or not when someone does that, if that in fact is an impeachable offense. Look, there’s not going to be an impeachment, but someone has to say that what the President is doing is fundamentally wrong, if we have any understanding of the way this country was founded. The founders did not want to create, in the executive, another British king who could wage war at his whim and caprice.

This president has assumed power that no president, not even President Bush, has assumed. And I think that we need to focus on this, not as a matter of whether we like President Obama or not, not as a matter of whether we are Democrats or not, but whether or not we understand the basic constitutional principles of the separation of power, of the separation of the war power, and that the president’s role as commander-in-chief has nothing to do with an ability to make war. He just simply doesn’t have that power.


Carole Sarcinello (338)
Sunday April 3, 2011, 9:51 pm

I think your comment was very much ON-topic, dear Jelica.

Often, I think, I wrongly assume that readers are aware of much that they may not be; and as such, I appreciate comments to help those interested in researching the subject.

This address by Dennis, regarding Libya, was the climax of daily letters to his colleagues that began on March 11 (and way before then, if we're addressing America's ongoing involvement in imperialistic, unjustifiable wars of aggression that are draining the budget -- while only benefitting war-mongers).

Thanks for your input!


Gloria L (58)
Monday April 4, 2011, 2:16 am
I like Dennis, he has courage and honesty. Ian, please feel better. You are such a valuable friend.
I feel proud to be friends with so many conscious people who contributed here.
Unconditional Love, Gloria

Jelica R (144)
Monday April 4, 2011, 6:21 am

Do you see my avatar? "We are One" Rallies Planned for Week of April 4th.

On April 4, 1968, Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. was assassinated in Memphis, where he had gone to stand with sanitation workers demanding their dream: The right to bargain collectively for a voice at work and a better life. The workers were trying to form a union with AFSCME.

There are OVER 1,000 events planned across the country so far! Find one near you.

Spotlight Events
- In Honor of Cesar Chavez and Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
April 04, 2011 at 11:00am; Phoenix, AZ
- We Are One: March for the Middle Class
April 04, 2011 at 05:00pm; St Paul, MN
- Rally and Picket
April 04, 2011 at 11:30am; Charlotte, NC
- Event Celebrating Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.'s Legacy
April 04, 2011 at 01:30pm; Indianapolis, IN
- Day of Action for Worker Rights
April 04, 2011 at 03:30pm; Milwaukee, WI
- We Are One!
April 04, 2011 at 06:00pm; Paris, France
- We Are One - Join the Fight!
April 04, 2011 at 05:00pm; Detroit, MI
- We Are One--Rally for the Middle Class
April 04, 2011 at 07:00pm, Kabul, Afghanistan
- We Are One - Solidarity Dinner
April 04, 2011 at 06:30pm; Ulaanbaatar, Mongolia
- 43rd Annual March Honoring the Legacy of Dr. Martin Luther King
April 04, 2011 at 10:00am; Memphis TN
- and more...

Ian MacLeod (79)
Monday April 4, 2011, 8:58 am
Thanks Gloria, Carole, Judith & all. Not sure what's up health-wise.

Another bit of info:

Seems that way they count radiation exposure minimizes the damage by as much as a factor of 100. Much better to lie, they think. We need truth tellers like Mr. Kucinich. I just have no faith that he'll last in this political climate.


Sheryl G (363)
Monday April 4, 2011, 9:53 am
Dennis Kucinich needs our help and protection. For those who pray, please do so for him, for those who do other ways of tapping into the Source, please send him protection. Lightworkers send him all that you have to protect him and guide his steps. All of us, keep him in our thoughts in a good way, visualize him living a long life and doing many good things for the People. If anyone can donate to help him that are able to, this is one man that truly does deserve all the help that way that can be given.

Rita De Vos (87)
Monday April 4, 2011, 4:16 pm
Thank you for this important post Carole! I don't know what to add to all these great comments in here! Thank you all dear friends ;) I will keep Dennis Kucinich in my prayers Dandelion!

Sheryl G (363)
Tuesday April 5, 2011, 7:38 am
You cannot currently send a star to Rita because you have done so within the last week.

John Farnham (52)
Thursday April 7, 2011, 7:26 am
It's good to see Ian on the board. Many times he has complained of difficulties using Care 2 emails and posting comments. Today's were welcome proof that he still is paying attention.
What can I say ? Mad Hatter TenSix is only one of several who post news that you will not see unless you look for ir . Though I cannot cite Ian's sources I am getting the same inputs on my RSS feeds.
C hasn't used herf blog for ages even though she's on automatic to be included when I issue another compilation from Blogger orf Blogs I'm Following - though Feedly and/or Yoono combined with Twitter make an astounding information resource. Speaking of which, it's time to again post RSS SnapShot! of the feeds at My Opera, which form a historical record of what was topical when it was taken.
As for Dennis. He and Ron Paul are about the only people I pay attention to - though John Edwards does not seem the run of the mill louse whatever you think of his sexual life. It bothers me much much less than proven proliferators of murder.

Marta Away (55)
Thursday April 7, 2011, 1:46 pm
Thanks Just C.

Jim Phillips (3257)
Monday April 25, 2011, 10:45 am
TY C for the news article and to all the
pthers for their comments.


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Tuesday May 24, 2011, 6:38 pm
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