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Heroin Bigger Than You Think


Health & Wellness  (tags: health, Heroin addicts, prevention, risks, treatment, disease, drugs, death )

Dee
- 236 days ago - timesjournalonline.com
Stories and statistics shared the floor Wednesday when addicts, their families, and the people who work to help them-even if that means putting then behind bars-gathered to talk about our heroin problem.



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Dee C. (214)
Wednesday November 27, 2013, 8:20 am
"It's epidemic," said Greg Tuck, who identified himself as a recovering heroin addict.
"Just because you don't see people in the streets pushing it...When I was using, there were 13-year-olds buying from the same guy I was. If you know what to look for, all the signs are there."
More than 100 people turned out for the forum, put together by the Schoharie County Chemical Dependency Clinic and others, and featuring a panel that included all of the above.
Since 2010, the number of heroin cases locally has quadrupled, said Bonnie Post, head of Community Services for the county.
Few addicts start out with heroin-Mr. Tuck said his problems started in the medicine cabinet; Cobleskill's Mayor-elect Linda Holmes, who's worked with at-risk 13- and 14-year-olds who are already alcoholics and drug addicts, said that's where it started for them, too.
Ms. Holmes said she was traveling to Schenectady for help for those kids and others in the audience said it can be near-impossible to find treatment locally; there are no halfway houses or in-patient or detox programs here, said Nancy Ortner, coordinator of the county's Chemical Dependency Clinic.

Read more at site..
 

Dee C. (214)
Wednesday November 27, 2013, 8:36 am
Both Linda Holmes and Greg Tuck are friends of mine..Mrs. Holmes has been great in advocating for these addicts..
I have known Greg since he was in Jr. H.S. He went to school with my older son..Sadly Greg became an addict..throwing his career right out the window..losing his wife and kids..And he still struggles today..
He also would be the first one to say..drugs should not be legal or decriminalized..

Addiction is crippling to say the least..not only a physical problem..but a mental one as well..Many of them will not even think about counseling..or rehab..Just as the article states they would rather do the time in jail..

And then some fight hard every single day of their lives to stay clean and straight..I cannot even imagine how hard their fight is..but I am proud of those that do overcome their additions..
I am also proud of my son..Sergeant Bialkowski..who has been a long time friend to Greg and has helped him along the way..
I am proud of my old town..They work hard to change what needs to be changed to combat this problem..but bottom line is even with all of the help available..these addicts need to make a choice..stay strong..and stay clean..
 

Michael Kirkby (83)
Thursday November 28, 2013, 9:32 am
Noted & posted. Every place regardless of size has this type of problem to some degree. You can see it in the playgrounds and the parking lots and the back alleys.
 

. (0)
Thursday November 28, 2013, 10:12 am
Very informative, Dee. Thanks for sharing.
 

Past Member (0)
Thursday November 28, 2013, 1:33 pm
What's in Obama's New Drug War Budget? (Hint: Same, Old Broken Policies)

"It's just the same old programs being funded through the same old stove-pipes," said Eric Sterling, executive director of the Criminal Justice Policy Foundation. "In a way, it's ironic. When Congress passed the legislation creating the drug czar's office in 1988, the idea was for the drug czar to look at all the federal anti-drug spending and come in and say he was going to take the funds from one program and shift them to a more effective program. I think many in Congress hoped he would shift resources from law enforcement to treatment and prevention because there was evidence that those sorts of programs were more effective and a better use of resources. That didn't happen," he said.

"It's really just more of the same," said Sean Dunagan, a former DEA intelligence analyst whose last assignment in northeastern Mexico between 2008 and 2010, a when prohibition-related violence there was soaring, helped change his perspective. Dunagan quit the DEA and is now a member of Law Enforcement Against Prohibition (LEAP).


 

Alice C. (1797)
Thursday November 28, 2013, 2:11 pm
Thank you for posting this information
 

Past Member (0)
Thursday November 28, 2013, 2:46 pm
A New View of Addiction Stirs Up A Scientific Storm

A group of leading American addiction experts recently released a sweeping new definition of addiction, sending the powerful psychiatric lobby into a tail-spin.

'If you think addiction is all about booze, drugs, sex, gambling, food and other irresistible vices, think again. And if you believe that a person has a choice whether or not to indulge in an addictive behavior, get over it. The American Society of Addiction Medicine (ASAM) blew the whistle on these deeply held notions with its official release of a new document defining addiction as a chronic neurological disorder involving many brain functions, most notably a devastating imbalance in the so-called reward circuitry. This fundamental impairment in the experience of pleasure literally compels the addict to chase the chemical highs produced by substances like drugs and alcohol and obsessive behaviors like sex, food and gambling.'
 

Past Member (0)
Thursday November 28, 2013, 2:57 pm
New Study: Marijuana May Treat Addiction To Hard Drugs

Curing addiction with cannabis medicines

Marijuana Component May Help Treat Heroin Addiction
 

Sheri Schongold (6)
Thursday November 28, 2013, 5:30 pm
There is no maximum or minimum on age and use of heroin. The epidemic is so bad that no matter what number we come up with, they must be at least tripled to come close to the use. Don't pooh pooh this. Open your eyes and put your mouth to work where it will do the most good. If jail and mandatory rehab is necessary. 3 months of rehab is not always enough (look at Lindsey Lohan). Those who don't/can't do it in 3 months should be going longer until they finally realize that what they were doing is bad for them and rehab is good and is trying to make them productive citizens, not useless pieces of nothing.
 

Past Member (0)
Thursday November 28, 2013, 6:29 pm
Poppy plant derivatives, like opium and heroine have been a plague on societies worldwide for centuries. During the mid 1800's, (when opium was not illegal), the Harriman's, of the railroad and banking elite, made a fortune shipping opium worldwide, Harriman introduced the Bush crime family into the business as well. This gave a huge boost to the family income.
 

Past Member (0)
Thursday November 28, 2013, 8:54 pm
There is a huge part of the problem, those that get their 'knowledge' of this topic from Entertainment Tonight and CSI Miami, and then try to speak about it intelligently, when they seriously haven't the first clue about addiction.
 

Past Member (0)
Thursday November 28, 2013, 9:14 pm
Robert, your comment was spot on.

America's Hundred Years War On Drugs : Centennial of the 1st Congressional Anti-Drug Law

'Most Americans have now forgotten that drugs were legal for most of the nation's history. At the turn of the last century, Americans could generally buy cocaine, morphine, or heroin over the counter at most any pharmacy. That situation began to change one hundred ago, when a combination of evangelical prohibitionists and Progressive era reformers mounted a successful campaign for federal anti-narcotics legislation.'

'The movement toward prohibition was not precipitated by any crisis in narcotics use or abuse; indeed, drug use was on the decline by the early 1900s [1]. Nor was it fueled by any widespread public demand for narcotics control; newspapers of the day record far greater interest in alcohol prohibition. Rather, it was initiated by a small but committed band of prohibitionist Protestant missionaries in response to America's colonial venture in the Philippines following the Spanish-American War.'

 

Past Member (0)
Thursday November 28, 2013, 9:29 pm
State's war on drugs a 100-year-old bust / Rate of addiction has doubled since crackdown on use

'To a public unaccustomed to drug enforcement, the board's conduct initially stirred consternation. The public "has been disgusted with the sending of spies and stool-pigeons to gather evidence," the Santa Cruz News said in an editorial. Board inspectors were accused of brutal beatings and violence of a kind unknown in pre-prohibition days.'

'Inevitably, corruption also ensued. The board's chief inspector, Frederick Sutherland, was fired amid allegations of bribery after he married a drug-dealing widow.'

'In subsequent years, attitudes hardened. As black market dealers moved in, drugs were increasingly viewed as a criminal problem. At first, penalties were relatively mild: Sale was classified as only a misdemeanor. Later, possession became punishable by up to six years in prison. Originally, the board had envisioned that drug fiends would be treated in asylums rather than sent to jail. However, funding for asylums was repeatedly vetoed, sending addicts to prison.'

'As the screws tightened, the problem got worse. Federal and state laws forced prices out of sight, pushing addicts into crime. By 1919, the Los Angeles Times reported a "saturnalia of violent crime" caused by drug fiends desperate to get narcotics. Stories of drug crime and violence, rarely seen before prohibition, became a staple item in the press.'

'In the end, the drug laws became a giant crime-creation program.'
 

Jonathan Harper (0)
Friday November 29, 2013, 4:17 am
noted
 

Dee C. (214)
Friday November 29, 2013, 6:52 am
It is not the drug laws that create crime..It's the drugs..The drug addicts..And the scum that deals and pushes drugs..That's is where the crime comes from..And whether legal or not..the same ones are going to continue on that path..

Not sure what it is that people don't get that..There will always be a problem with it..What is needed is stronger laws..Law enforcement that is not corrupt,,Politicians who don't look the other way..or even profit off it as well..

Parents and drug programs that teach kids about the harm and risk in taking drugs in the first place..And don't tell me it doesn't work..It worked with both of my kids..And I know many others personally that it worked for..
Unfortunately there are those that don't take heed..don't care..Those that are lazy and scuzzy and will always take the easy way out to make a buck..Those who are at a high risk for addiction..And those that are corrupt..

To actually believe that in making harmful drugs legal or decriminalize any who take or deal or take them..is insane..



 

Tom Tree (254)
Friday November 29, 2013, 8:05 am
Thanks for posting this

This is REALLY SCARY STUFF !
 

Dee C. (214)
Friday November 29, 2013, 8:12 am
It really is Tom..
 

Winn Adams (190)
Friday November 29, 2013, 5:39 pm
Thanks - very sad to say the least.
 

Past Member (0)
Friday November 29, 2013, 7:16 pm
"It is not the drug laws that create crime..It's the drugs.."

Congratulations, Dee! You win the prize for the most ridiculous comment on the internet!
 

Past Member (0)
Friday November 29, 2013, 7:24 pm
Dee, what makes drugs so expensive, and thus the massive profit incentives?
 

Past Member (0)
Friday November 29, 2013, 7:49 pm
The incentive for Cartels to sell them, and the need to commit property crimes to pay for them.

What makes drugs so expensive?
 

Past Member (0)
Friday November 29, 2013, 8:35 pm
Drug Prohibition and Violence

The Drug War/Law Enforcement Industrial Complex and the Prohibition Law are what stands in the way of ever providing the proper kind and amount of treatment that addicts need. If this problem is ever to be addressed as the HEALTH CARE issue it should be, Courts, Prisons, Swat Teams, MUST be removed from the equation. Your article highlights the hell out of that! Thanks, Dee.
 

Past Member (0)
Friday November 29, 2013, 8:49 pm
On Ending Prohibition

"We can't just tinker around the edges of our ideological roadblock. I repeat, no matter how much you hate drugs, no matter how much you have seen the worst that drugs can do, the war on drugs, the criminal justice system, and the criminalization approach cannot and will not be the right way. It does not make sense to put our limited resources in the hands of the prison-industrial complex, allowing it to absorb a hundred billion dollars a year that should be directed toward treatment, education, health care, and housing."

Your article is correct, Dee, Heroin is Bigger than you think. Why can't we afford to deal with it?
 

Past Member (0)
Friday November 29, 2013, 9:13 pm
The Harmful Side Effects of Drug Prohibition
 

Franshisca Dearmas (97)
Friday November 29, 2013, 11:21 pm
Thanks for posting this information. Noted TY Dee
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday November 30, 2013, 12:40 am
Interesting, thanks for posting.
 

Michael Kirkby (83)
Saturday November 30, 2013, 9:03 am
Noted.
 

Dee C. (214)
Saturday November 30, 2013, 9:22 am
Thanks for all the notes and green stars everyone..
 

Colleen M King (1)
Saturday November 30, 2013, 2:07 pm
The herion is out of control were I live ppl R droppin out off like flies. We had a rally over 2,300 ppl showed eveb tge drug deals. Since then a lot of ppl have stopped &rehabs have been gettin full. The robbers have slowed down. A lot of bust to many deaths & needs to B stopped
 

Birgit W. (140)
Saturday November 30, 2013, 3:49 pm
Thanks for sharing.
 

Bette-Ann Libin (11)
Saturday November 30, 2013, 8:36 pm
Enter Krocodil
 

Anne F. (17)
Saturday November 30, 2013, 8:58 pm
the only place in illegal drug production, smuggling, sale and use can be broken is by helping folks get off and stay off. Children need safe, healthy homes, Teens need safe challenges.
 

Michael A. (27)
Sunday December 1, 2013, 11:48 am
Thanks!
 

monka blanke (74)
Sunday December 1, 2013, 1:37 pm
People need to be informed..., many stay addicted, cause they fear the kick - off. Addicts need to know that there is Methadon to help them kick off without physical pain. Begin with a thorough health program, with lot's of informations on how to get / stay clean...people need to know that heroin might be exiting at the very beginning, but once addicted, it's just a burden, one needs to feed the habit every 4 hrs.
I really think that Methadon is the only way to stop - not pot.
 

Dee C. (214)
Sunday December 1, 2013, 2:25 pm
You are so right Monka..Thanks for sharing..
 

Michael A. (27)
Monday December 2, 2013, 12:49 am
Thanks!
 
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