Tuesday August 8, 2006, 4:38 pm
I can't believe that anything so offensive could find a webserver that would host this abomenation. Sadly, pedophile's have gained some strength through political recognition(eg. it gained party standing in Holland) and bungling of numerous law makers world-wide.

Tuesday August 8, 2006, 4:48 pm
We tried before but because he does not have explicit child pictures, he has done nothing wrong. Thie is abuse regardless and does not belong on the net

Tuesday August 8, 2006, 6:50 pm
Marcia, I'm not acccusing you of saying something not true because the links went on and on. About the pictures. I saw several showing private areas showing on children no older than 10 years old. The majority are sexual and this is soft kiddie porn !!! It is porn.... As I looked further I saw maybe a 10 year old girl with only a G-string on and in a sexual position with her behind dislpaying and her chest.

I saw more that displayed the lower front part. The pictures are there of kids photographed in sexual positions displaying their private areas. Skin and everything else.

It depends how deep you go. The first time I went there for 3 minutes. Then went back for contact information and started looking absolutely shocked at what I was seeing,which is "Soft kittie Porn". The more I looked I was linked to naked sexual pictures that displayed what I described.

Dig a little.It goes further and I'm sure if you kept going you would be able to find movies,etc... full child porn.

I now blocked the Website from my computer 100% and I wont go back. I took down what contact information there was and sent back those few pictures I saw to myself.

I don't believe for a second this is legal and that they can get away with it.....!! I think if sent to the correct person,media,etc...that is willing to investigate ,then it will be shut down.

It will pop up again with a new name. Tat's how they work. This website is done by professionals that took the pictures. They put so much work into it.

Where are the kids from? All of their parents consented to this? I don't think so.

Well,you noted it again which hopefully will get many more signatures...... This was a good idea.

Treaci bringing it out to begin with rerally did something special for her first "Note" ever.

Take this as a chance to "SIGN" the petition and submit it to all the newspapers you view. They all have easy email forms to send in any story. Someone out there has to give a dam* and want to bring this out and shut it down.

Where did all these kids come from? Parents that did allow this were obviously offered money and probably false hopes but I still don't believe most of these parents gave consent.

Wat too many kids to count. Think about where they came from and this is soft kiddie porn. There is soft adult porn just like what I saw. It is "PORN" !

Tuesday August 8, 2006, 7:33 pm
child porn gained Party Standing in Holland what the F

Tuesday August 8, 2006, 8:27 pm
A few months ago, a pedophile party was given party status, in Holland. I was in Belgium at the time and the protests were on the news. Unfortunately, through a perverted application of free speech, the pedophiles got their way.

Tuesday August 8, 2006, 9:29 pm
I went to this site and and to say that I was appalled would be putting it lightly.This is porn,call it 'soft porn" but call it porn cause thats what it is!I know first hand what a pedophile is and the damage they do to their victims.Damage that can last a lifetime! This website should be removed and someone needs to find out who the little girls are so they can be protected from this pedophile(s).I don't have any idea how anyone could do that,but to me it would rescue those children!

Tuesday August 8, 2006, 9:57 pm
It is Porn ! If the reason they aren't shut down is because it's said that this in not porn,then isn't still illegal to "EXPLOIT" children ?? I believe it is Porn ! I'm just saying if they insist it is not ,what about exploiting children? That's ilegal and the site or anyone that sees it cannot deny this... That children are being exploited.

Tuesday August 8, 2006, 11:10 pm
Sick.

Wednesday August 9, 2006, 7:20 pm
http://www.angelsthatcare.org/predator_alert.html

I wrote what I thought and sent links to report him.

Thursday August 10, 2006, 8:20 pm
it has been reported here, too.. the more reports, the better.. so everyone, please send one!
http://www.cybertipline.com/

Thursday August 10, 2006, 8:39 pm
PLEASE DO NOT DOWNLOAD PICTURES WHILE VIEWING THIS SITE IN ORDER TO REPORT/PROVE THEM
Report suspicions of Websites, individuals, servers, or chat rooms trafficking in suspected child pornography to the US Customs Child Exploitation Unit, call 1-800-BE-ALERT.
The U.S. Customs Service is also working with The National Center for Missing and Exploited Children (NCMEC) on Internet child pornography concerns and investigations.
Message from the US Customs Child Exploitation Unit: "PLEASE DO NOT DOWNLOAD CHILD PORNOGRAPHY, AS THIS IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. MERE POSSESSION OF THIS MATERIAL IS A VIOLATION OF FEDERAL LAW AND MAY VIOLATE STATE STATUTES AS WELL."

Thursday August 10, 2006, 9:56 pm
I reprted this to several websites I have saved over the recent years and more so recently. I did send 2 links and said I'm going to end up screwed just for going to the website to begin with . The first time I went 3 minutes and the 2nd time while getting the contact information looked further for good proof and then blocked the site with as many of my features I have.

If you go on a site like that ,I wouldn't trust them and for about 2 minutes I couldn't get off the site. It kept refreshing and keeping me there. This it what many websites do porn or non porn. The smiley sites do this and many do. I run all my programs and something always will show up if this happens.

I would hope people take the comment from others that this is bad and NOT even go to the website. Shaxedi is definitely correct but many of us are so sickened,disturbed that we wanted to alert anyone we could about how bad the website is.

I highly suggest not going there at all.....

Thanks Shazedi !

Friday August 11, 2006, 6:08 am
I sent the information on to cybertip. ca. Can anyone tell where this site originates? i didn't want to spend too much time there,so that I could find the information

Friday August 11, 2006, 7:23 am
This site is a nightmare..... They have covered their tracks well and since we the first article was "NOTEED" here on Care2 the website has changed. I'm sure someone that knows what they are doing could get an Ip address but it may not lead you to them.
I'm going to try and post this one page which shocked and disguted me even more. IT'S LONG !!!


Law Enforcement Contact Page
"Helping You Help Us"

Outrage!
Are you outraged by what you have just been reading? Do you think that sites like this should be banned? Do you think that, despite the fact that there is nothing illegal on this site whatsoever, its creators should be locked up? Do you support severely curtailing the constitutionally guaranteed right to freedom of speech and the suspension of civil rights in the execution of draconian laws against law-abiding citizens whose worldview happens to be different than yours? If so, you are in good company! This site has already been reported numerous times to a number of law enforcement organizations including the FBI, the RCMP and Interpol.

If you are undeterred by the fact that this site is already well-known within the law enforcement community and that it is in no way illegal, and you still want to do your civic duty and exercise your freedom of speech by denouncing the free speech of another citizen, let us help you. Here we have compiled a list of contacts for a number of law enforcement bodies that you might wish to contact. We have even included a form that will allow you to contact several of these agencies at once!

Contact List
FBI: https://tips.fbi.gov/
USPIS: https://www.usps.com/postalinspectors/fraud/Feedback.htm
ICE: http://www.ice.gov/graphics/investigations/contact.htm
Interpol (International): http://www.interpol.int/Public/contact.asp
Europol (EU): http://www.europol.eu.int/index.asp?page=contacts&language=
Inhope: (EU) http://www.inhope.org/
RCMP (Canada): http://www.rcmp.ca/contact/comments_e.htm#headquarters
IWF (UK): http://www.iwf.org.uk/index.html

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Law Enforcement Contact Form
Select Agencies to Contact: FBI RCMP Interpol IWF
ICE USPIS Europol Inhope

Name:

Email:

Please enter the URLs of sites you would like to report and rate them:

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Site 2: Annoying Offensive Disgusting

Site 3: Annoying Offensive Disgusting

Site 4: Annoying Offensive Disgusting

Subject:


Message:

Dear Sirs,

I would like to report a number of very disturbing websites to you. Although they do not contain any illegal material, I am totally outraged that such sites can be allowed to exist on the Internet. I fully support you suspending our civil liberties and making a mockery of our legal and judicial systems in the course of taking decisive action against the people who operate these websites and others like them. The right to free speech should most certainly not apply to the content of websites like these because *I* do not agree with it and *I* find it morally reprehensible.

Sincerely,
I WROTE THIS COMMENT IN UPPER CASE LETTERS BUT THE REST IS FROM THE SITE . FROM THE
FIRST TIME I WENT THERE TO FIND OUT CONTACT INFORMATION AND WHAT THE NOTE WAS.

********* FOR ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES ONLY !!! THIS IS INSANE. THIE SITE IS NUTS AND THE CONTACT INFORMATION WHICH IWAS ALL I COULD FIND IS WORTH NOTHING ,I ASSUME AND GOES STRAIGHT TO WHO EVER ND WILL DO ABSOLUTELY NOTHING...........................*******************

Note: This form is for entertainment purposes only and does not actually send any information to law enforcement agencies. Submitting this form will send an email to the Puellula webmaster. If you wish to contact law enforcement, please use the contact details listed above.


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Friday August 11, 2006, 7:27 am
THE FOLLOWING IS THE ONLY OTHER INFORMATION SUPPOSEDLY FROM A PRESS RELEASE !! OF COURSE NOT EVERY DETAIL DISPLAYED ON THIS COMMENT OR THE ABOVE AND NOTHING IS CLICKABLE BUT I ASSUME IT'S NOT GOING TO LEAD YOU ANYWHERE GOOD.

I HAVE NO IDEA ABOUT THE PHONE NUMBER..........



For enquiries about this news release, please contact Lindsay Ashford at hfp@puellula.com. Telephone inquiries: +507 6703 3461.

Facsimile of Attorney General Blumenthal’s Letter




HFP NEWS - FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Press Release: Response to the Letter of the Attorney General of Connecticut
August 7, 2006 - The following is a verbatim transcript of the response of Puellula/HFP to a letter received from Richard Blumenthal, Attorney General of Connecticut, dated July 25, 2006.

I have received your letter dated 25 July, 2006, regarding my mention of Connecticut-based organization Save the Children in a press release issued on 21 June 2006 on my website, Puellula/The Human Face of Pedophilia (Puellula/HFP). Whilst I appreciate your concerns about the mention of a legal entity residing in your state, I do not agree that the press release misconstrues any of the facts.

When Todd Nickerson, who acted as an agent for my website due to his residency within the United States, posted the donation to Save the Children in May, 2006, he enclosed a letter, drafted and signed by myself, stating clearly that the contribution was organised by Puellula/HFP and that the donors were a coalition of girllovers. Therefore, I maintain that personnel at Save the Children had every fair opportunity to be informed as to the source of the donation.

The press release that the website issued on 21 June is a time-sensitive document and bears the date upon which it was released. I am confident that the entire contents of the press release were factual at the time of release. Whilst I am mindful of the fact that circumstances changed after the issue of the press release, as a chronicle of the state of affairs at the time of its writing, it remains accurate. I do recognize, however that one clause might be construed, if taken out of context, as a claim that my website was being endorsed by Save the Children. Whilst this was never the intention of the clause, for the sake of objectivity, I have removed it from the press release.

You have cited the Connecticut Solicitation of Charitable Funds Act as a basis for your belief that the use of the name or a charitable organization in a publicly-accessible news release is illegal. I contest this assertion on the basis that the mention of the charitable organization in the press release is not intended in any way to solicit funds, act as an agent or convince others that there is common purpose between my website and Save the Children. The sole purpose of the press release is to record the facts of an event.

The interpretation of this statute that you suggest in your letter would seem to indicate that you and the legislature of the State of Connecticut wish for every news outlet anywhere in the world to request written permission to mention Save the Children or any other charitable organization before writing about it. I consider it highly unlikely that this is the true intention of either you or the legislators who drafted this law.

I will be issuing a version of this letter as a new press release on Puellula/HFP. I trust that its contents will be adequate acknowledgement of the fact that, since the time of the previous press release, the funds were returned.

In closing, I would like to point out that Todd Nickerson has no influence or authority over the content that appears on Puellula/HFP. He acted as an agent for the website on a temporary basis solely for the purpose of collecting the donated funds and posting them to Save the Children. At that point, his involvement with the website ended.

For enquiries about this news release, please contact Lindsay Ashford at hfp@puellula.com. Telephone inquiries: +507 6703 3461.

Friday August 11, 2006, 7:36 am
I'm very uncomfortable that I went to the site origianlly to find out what it was about. I didn't know .I had no clue . It was a news story submitted and I went to visit site and left after 3 minutes went back for contact information and I regret it having it on my computer.

My computer is going to be wiped cleaned next month and I will attempt by a professional a tool to wipe clean the hard drive but unless you smash it I don't believe that will ever happen. I think you can get rifd of many things but not the majority ever. This was being done before I went to this site due to a major tech issue with my computer. It would be great not to have it on the hard drive. I don't trust anything and People still do not download anything for proof.

It can't be chanced now. I'm done talking about this.I reported it to a list of places I have had and saved. After AOL's huge screw up and I know someone who at wor was caught ONE time on a child porn site while viewing adult sites but he was sent to prison for 5 years plus much more and I honestly can tell you he hd a porn addiction but not to children. They found he was on the site for 7 minutes one time. No criminal record ever in his life .Not even a traffic ticket.

I think that's great if the person really is a pedaphile but I'm not and I went to this website.....

Friday August 11, 2006, 9:04 am
personal notes thus far: along with sources and references

concering LINDSAY ASHFORD



FIRST OF ALL...

LET ME BE TOTALLY BLUNT AND HONEST

TO GO AFTER THIS GUY COULD GET UGLY AND NASTY.....

HE'S USED TO PEOPLE GOING AFTER HIM AND HE'S FULLY PREPARED TO FIGHT!!!

we can warn others about him......let them see the resources and all that we've dug up about him.....but in my opinion...that's about all we can do....

the only other thing we can possibly do without coming under attack ourselves is to present a petition to his webserver asking them 'out of good conscience and morality' to discontinue his service through them........


petitions 'i think' are about the only thing we can legally do at this time.....unless there is evidence that he has legitimately hurt, injured, or caused undue harm on another ........ and he has stated as thus.....

but at any rate.....here's my research so far

john

ALSO.......it is IMPERATIVE that we warn our readers [young and old alike] NOT to download any banners, siggies, or any other paraphanelie from any of his sites simply because they're "pretty or neat".......as they are an out and out BLAZING FINGER to any other pedophiles online......hunting and looking for new girls..... and perhaps....as in the case of Perverted Justice..these 'new girls' perhaps won't or can't understand the dangerousness of these people until it's too late! and to let others know via their own address books!

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SIDEBAR: what the whole thing i believe is boiling down to is the fight between both parties "pedophile and/or social moralist" is to which age is 'one considered an adult or is of legal and psycologically capable of adult decisions about their own personal body' and

too

how shall CONGRESS DEPICT the terms...... AGE OF CONSENT legally...


should parents STILL retain the right to decisions over their young even though said parties have reached the age of puberty and sexual awareness...

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MY RESEARCH THUS FAR


interview with The Express Times; a New Jersey based internet newspaper nj.com

http://www.nj.com/specialprojects/expresstimes/index.ssf?/news/expresstimes/stories/molesters1_otherside.html

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DOMAIN DISPUTE

Go Daddy; web server host and Lindsay Ashford at odds over content and social acceptance

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lindsay_Ashford

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Investigators: Pedophile Runs Missing Kids Website

Lindsay Ashford runs missing children's site

http://www1.wxyz.com/wxyz/ys_investigations/article/0,2132,WXYZ_15949_3913119,00.html


at bottom of article please note:
there is a website trying to combat his efforts. www.findmissingkids.com is a legitimate missing children website.

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KSN Local news

Pedophile on the Internet

short excerpt mentioning Lindsay again..this time with different missing child

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The following excerpts taken directly from his website PUELLA...

before continuing..PLEASE READ THE FINE PRINT HE HAS PROVIDED for any 'future unlawful misgivings that might occur'

http://puellula.org/FinePrint.html

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MANIFESTO
[written by Lindsay Ashford]

http://hfp.puellula.com/Manifesto.html

Article 27: Age of Consent
The age of consent for penetrative sexual activity shall be set at the legal age of puberty as defined in Article 14. Other forms of physical intimacy shall not be restricted for any age and no restrictions shall be made on intimacy between any persons, regardless of age differences between those persons. The only criteria for the legality of any sexual activity between any child and youth or adult is the consent of all of the parties involved on each occasion and that

none of the activities causes bodily harm to any child.

Previous consent to sexual activity shall not be assumed to be ongoing consent and consent to one act shall not be assumed to be consent to further acts on the same occasion. Any party has the right to withdraw his consent at any time. The use of force, coercion or manipulation by any party to obtain sex from any other party shall be punishable under the relevant rape, sexual abuse or harrassment statutes.

[to what degree and description does Lindsay Ashford attach to the term.....~bodily harm~] for surely even he realizes the long term effects of his and others *sexual and mental deriviations*]

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The human mind; according to scientists has not fully developed enough to know the difference between right and wrong until [***] age........and to inflict this man's thinking into that developing psyche at which it is defenseless and unable to counter act....is in itself.....an affliction towards the very ideals that he professes he chooses to protect......


http://puellula.org/AP.html


GirlLover, Not Child Molester
I am not the enemy. The enemy is the one who wants to hurt your little girl. I am the one who would never do anything to cause harm to come to her.

Indeed, I wish to treat her with the utmost respect, to talk to her, to listen to her, to laugh with her, to play with her, to love her. The love that I wish to bestow upon her will start with phileo, the love which is equated with friendship, companionship and affection. As I get to know her better and appreciate her for the unique individual that she is, this love will deepen into agape, a profound respect and admiration. Our friendship and mutual respect will allow us to fully appreciate the joys of our eros, or physical love, which will, in turn, affirm and reinforce the beautiful bond we have created together.

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Pedosexual Resources Directory

a good reading source for arguments and theories already presented and declined/proven wrong.....

*according to their sources anyway*.......but should be taken note of*

http://www.paedosexualitaet.de/index.html

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THE NEPTUNE LINK

a further link to chat forums, information bases, and child modeling sites...

http://nld.puellula.com/Main.html
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something to NOTE:

http://www.glgarden.org/tfaq.htm

from the FAQ page of Girl Lovers Garden
[ Girl Lovers from around the world, in this year 2001, may now unite in applauding the founding of www.glgarden.org. Girl Love Garden's mission is to provide a forum for dialogue about issues of interest to Girl Lovers and to become a host for a broad variety of Web Pages created by Girl Lovers.]

Canadian and US LAW

Girl Moments, that are tasteful and well written and that are couched from a view that highlights friendships or other light hearted encounters are definitely on topic. However, do not reveal the identity of any LG or TG.

And don't include details that evoke a prurient interest in sexual relations. Written materials that appear erotic, or that advocate or counsel engaging in sexual activity with a minor constitutes a very serious offence under the Criminal Code of Canada. Yet the laws, in Canada, as in the U.S. and the U. K., are open to broad, negative interpretation.

Thus if your Web Page includes a Girl Moment your material must be in full compliance with these laws so that when viewed with a prejudicial eye they could not be seen as openly advocating, counseling, inducing, nor encouraging sexual intimacy with minors. The U.S., likewise, has laws in certain States against the dissemination of written materials depicting explicit sexual acts between adults and minors. Therefor, Girl Moments are generally discouraged; however, one well written, and that respects the guidelines of the rules expressed in these FAQ, will be well received.

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will send this info so far............

this i have a feeling tis only the tip of the iceberg.....

and as i said......if we go after ASHFORD personally.....he'll not back down

remember JIM and PERVERTED JUSTICE...

ours i believe....in my own opinion....is to warn others of these sites......and others like them.....and perhaps to be more aware of KEYWORDS AND NOTES when looking at sites, forums, and 'chat sites' or within CHAT ROOMS so that our young are protected by being aware and educated enough to know a 'pedophile or wanna be' when they see it.....

john

Friday August 11, 2006, 9:05 am
http://www.danped.fpc.net/

Friday August 11, 2006, 9:29 am
I got some of that information also but I personally feel very uncomfortable with all of this and most of what is posted with a few exceptions I did find also and I have to say I agree with everything said but I still believe someone would be willing to take this further and investigate no matter how long it takes.

The server Go daddy did nothing,yet. Rather maybe not able to. This site will fight to no ends....

I didn't want to post every little thing because they are llong posts and I didn't know how people would receive them. I saw the small writing section too.

I will tell you that they did change from the first day it was posted/noted here . There was a different contact form and quite a few other different things. They disappeared or changed.

Friday August 11, 2006, 6:06 pm
I'm afraid that the reprot to cybertips.ca is the extent of my personal involvement in this matter. I have to trust the proper authorities to follow up, in any way necesssary. Locally, in Toronto, I know that we have an excellent police task force in addition to the RCMP, for tracking down pedophiles and rescuing children from abuse. God speed to all the children victimized by these monsters.

Sunday March 18, 2007, 7:33 pm
I can't even get past the first page of the website. How disgusting. My stomach turned when I realized what kind of website I was on. There aren't strong enough words to describe how apalled I am that this is allowed to be on the internet. There should be limits on what you can put on the internet especially when it is against the law.