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Open Thread - 7/9/2012

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Personal news, a Jig Zone puzzle, 3 short takes, and a homemade cartoon (shown).

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Carol H (229)
Monday July 9, 2012, 12:13 pm
I signed the petition to thank president Obama for the healthcare. thank you Tom for the post

Lynn Squance (235)
Monday July 9, 2012, 1:28 pm
Puzzle — 4:35. I have to admit that you were right TC — eventually my times have become better and I think I am more and more around average or a bit better.

MoveOn — Sad statistics! Such things only make the sick, sicker! Too bad Harry didn't kill the filibuster rule when he had the chance! My nasty side wants to say to the Republican/Teabaggers "Suffer, baby, suffer!" but my more humane and prominent side says "I hope you don't have to experience the pain and suffering from health issues that others have experienced."

Romney is a Koch head — Apparently there were 3 fundraisers yesterday but the Koch one was the biggest. If you paid $5,000 you could have had lunch with Eric Cantor, the little worm, 'just down the street'! Also, according to the article, Mr Obama is supposed to announce an extension of the Bush tax cuts but only to those making under $250,000. Now that, I think, is purely a political move.

Think Progress — "…Our churches — we don’t feel that way, they’re places of worship, and mosques are simply not that,…"
This Grantham has been drinking too much InsaniTea! With all the hatemongering against gays, abortion, and Muslims coming out of these so called Christian churches, they are far from true Christian churches and places of worship! Mosques are places of worship, as well as education and social activity, no different than other churches.

TC "If Islam is not a religion, neither is Republican Supply-side pseudo-Christianity." — Better recalculate a few tax returns where church donations were used as tax deductions. I'd love to do that to Rmoney's return!

Cartoon — A walk down nostalgia lane. I was raised in Brantford, Ontario, the "Telephone City", and Bell's home at Tutela Heights (part of more rural Brantford and Brant County) was always a favourite. At the Bell Telephone Company office in Brantford, there is a very large statue of Bell sitting in a chair just outside the main doors. Of course it was the duty of every child to sit on his lap. As I recall from my childhood, the first use of the "telephone" was in Canada at Tutela Heights between Bell and Watson. I suspect that this was 'the accident' referred to in Wikipedia's information on Bell. Here is some info from Wikipedia:

The Bell Telephone Company, a common law joint stock company, was organized in Boston, Massachusetts on July 9, 1877 by Alexander Graham Bell's father-in-law Gardiner Greene Hubbard, who also helped organize a sister company — the New England Telephone and Telegraph Company. The Bell Telephone Company was started on the basis of holding "potentially valuable patents", principally Bell's master telephone patent #174465.

The two companies merged on February 17, 1879 to form two new entities, the National Bell Telephone Company of Boston, and the International Bell Telephone Company, soon-after established by Hubbard and which was headquartered in Brussels, Belgium. Theodore Vail then took over its operations at that point, becoming a central figure in its rapid growth and commercial success.

The National Bell Telephone Company subsequently merged with others on March 20, 1880 to form the American Bell Telephone Company, also of Boston, Massachusetts.

Upon its inception, the Bell Telephone Company was organized with Hubbard as "trustee", although he was additionally its de facto president since he also controlled his daughter's shares by power of attorney, and with Thomas Sanders, its principal financial backer, as treasurer. The American Bell Telephone Company would later evolve into the American Telephone & Telegraph Company (AT&T), at times the world's largest telephone company. …

The Bell Patent Association (a name later assigned by historians), was technically not a corporate entity but a trusteeship and a partnership, and was first established verbally in 1874 to be the holders of the patents produced by Bell and his assistant Thomas Watson.

Approximate one third interests were at first held by Gardiner Greene Hubbard, a lawyer and Bell's future father-in-law; Thomas Sanders, the well-to-do leather merchant father of one of Bell's deaf students (and who was the very first to enter into an agreement with Bell); and finally by Alexander Graham Bell himself. Hubbard would subsequently register some of his shares with two other family members. An approximate 10% interest of the patent association was later assigned by its principles to Bell's technical assistant Thomas Watson, in lieu of salary and for his earlier financial support to Bell while they worked together creating their first functional telephones.

The verbal Patent Association agreement was first formalized in a memorandum of agreement on February 27, 1875. The Patent Association's assets would later became the foundational assets of the Bell Telephone Company.

I think Bell would be amazed, but also pleased, at how far the telephone has come, and at all the spin-off developments. Thanks for this memories blaster TC!


paul m (93)
Monday July 9, 2012, 1:52 pm

Noted...nice one....

David C (131)
Monday July 9, 2012, 3:44 pm

Elle B (84)
Monday July 9, 2012, 4:46 pm
Thanks Tom...always look forward to your posts. Hope your PT goes well and you get some relief from the heat.

Not posting any puzzle times yet as this computer is really slow :)

Lynn--let me know if you'd like any assistance on that Romney Return! Can you imagine doing back year Amendeds. . .that would be a career path in itself! Albeit quite a convoluted one.

Oh Koch Kills alright . . .everything in it's global wide path and wake. [they even do recycled kills...that's why they want everyone to think "manmade climate change" is a just they have more ops] Excellent communication by the protestors!

Not sure why we broke up Ma Bell. Always had good service...rates were low...didn't have to pay for phones or have "maintenance coverage" riders...maybe i just lived in a very special neck of the woods. I guess it was so new monopolies could compete with old monopolies and then the monopoly lords could war over monopoly territories. They were probably getting tired of Park Place and Boardwalk motels and hotels. Oh yeah almost forgot...more re-branding ops too...what would the major "meaning manglers" do? The former telephone and telegraph employees credit union is still one of the best in this area. It's looking like CBs, morse code and smoke signals may be the way to go, though. Even bullroarers, talking drums and homing pigeons...gotta go find those guys out in the bush and get some pointers. . .

There is NO healthcare system in this nation. That is a serious misnomer. It is a misguided dysfunctional medical/insurance corporate conglomerate societal construct hodgepodge "profits are THE cause" ...MESS.
Obama [does] a very strong effort in extremely difficult circumstances. Thinking the "we've got way more than our fair share and you WILL NOT be getting yours if we can help it" bunch would actually negotiate plus overestimating public attention spans and civics/political awareness levels [were actually sincere and deep compliments -- waylaid and contorted into bizarre formations by the Cato of their very twisted specialties. He and his team still got groundwork done...that is no small feat and that is why the fore mentioned snot nose bullies are so focused on taking him down.

“Health is a human necessity; health is a human right” ―James Lenhart

“Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell.” ― Edward Abbey

"The superior person understands rightness; the inferior person understands profit." ―Confucius


Mary T (178)
Monday July 9, 2012, 6:33 pm
Thanks Tom., Noted

Lynn Squance (235)
Tuesday July 10, 2012, 12:46 am
@ Elle B --- How about I be your assistant! I am a Canuck and know little about the US tax return. Canadian returns, well that is a different matter.

Just the thought of amending Rmoney's returns with all those millions that he gives to the Mormon church, ooooo, gives me goosebumps!

Joe R (190)
Tuesday July 10, 2012, 7:43 am
Thanks TomCat. Noted.

Susanne R (235)
Tuesday July 10, 2012, 10:21 pm
420,000 bankruptcies were filed because of overwhelming health care costs --by people who had health insurance! That's absurd! Anyone who thinks the system is just fine as it is is living in a fool's paradise!

The parade of limos headed for one of the Koch compounds must have been a sight to behold! I wonder what they were "serving up" for $50,000 a plate --other than their usual B.S.

TomCat S (129)
Wednesday July 11, 2012, 7:45 am
Thanks to all but the spammers.

Kudos to Elle and Lynn.
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