Tuesday September 18, 2012, 1:56 pm
If you voted for Barack Obama…
If you are a vet and were maimed defending our nation…
If you worked all your life, and paid for Social Security…
If you paid for your Medicare…
If you have a student loan…
If your children receive a free meal at school…
If you receive unemployment benefits, even if Bain Capital outsourced your job…
If you receive food stamps…
If you receive a penny from the government in any way (except corporate welfare)…
Then Romney does not concern himself with you, because you are a lazy moocher, you refuse to take responsibility for your own life, and you consider yourself a victim.
How do we know? Willard said so himself!
Tuesday September 18, 2012, 3:04 pm
Here Here.. thx Tom and everyone should understand now .. what Mitt an his are all about.. He's said repeatedly no more free loaders and the end of the entittlements when /if he is elected. No one free rides. He said that publicly as early as New Hampshire primaries (the end of it). He said it proudly.. He wants to steer people into the military to get any benefits at all. That is how it is to be gotten. Look they want to increase the military budget and cut everything else. He wants to change government to have everything run by corporations (the job creators) and not our government. I guess Mitt or his designate will be the supreme ruler of the government and his old bush advisors will call who the war target will be whenever as we march gladly off to do the obedient bidding. It's dark isn't it. Yep....it sure is. The bush dynasty continuing. that is if you like war and death and misery.
Tuesday September 18, 2012, 4:12 pm
Wow, C2 messing up, I had a hard time to access, and it won't let me note, sorry. However thus far I am typing on the thread.
As Lyn said, they have been speaking clearly about these things for awhile. Now I think it is time for people to hear them loud and clear.
Unless you are a multi millionaire or billionaire I don't know why you would even consider voting for this ticket. I can only think you still buy into the sound bites and think it is still the old Republican Party your grandparents and your parents voted for; it isn't. I don't think Eisenhower could win if he was running today with his own Party, and their own darling, Ronald Reagan would seem too liberal for them at this point.
They have attached just about everyone, I mean even if I was a gay multi-millionaire I couldn't stand behind them. I think is is despicable that they insult our Elders the way they do. And if they get in, the Elders will have more than just insults coming their way, they are the ones to push grannie off the cliff.
I have seen dirty politics but never ever have I seen a Party that goes out of it's way to insult the American people in such a fashion. Insult the very people who are the backbone of this Country, insult the very people who have got them to where they are, insult the very people that are just as much a citizen as they are. They are arrogant, rude, and the good con man smiles while he stabs you in the back, so I like this cartoon you made Tom, excellent.
If you are finally waking up and realizing that your Republican Party isn't what it use to be, if you find it distasteful to pull the lever next to Romney's name after you have been so insulted, but yet can not bare to place your mark next to Obama's name. Then I ask you to vote for a 3rd party that best represents your beliefs. There are various ones out there, just google your State for 3rd Parties and check them over. Anything is better than voting this one Party in.
Many long time polititicans are even leaving the Republican Party, Charlie Crist here in Florida is running next time on a Democrat ticket to get out Rick Scott. Charlie was a former Republican Governor of this State, but he said it is no longer a Party he recognizes nor wants to associate with. Olympia Snowe of Maine isn't running again, she is not able to deal with the lunatics within her own Party, she has had enough. One by one they are leaving, so if your own former Republican politicians are leaving, why do you want to keep voting them back in. Let the lunatics emplode, and maybe at some point some sanity will return to the party or let it die and one of the more saner 3rd Parties step up to the plate.
Tuesday September 18, 2012, 4:29 pm
Check out Eisenhower's great-granddaughter's stuff. I love how the kids keep the ball rolling. Bravo to Carter's grandson for this exposure of truth, and this one is a biggie, a deal breaker between all voters and this foolish man.
by the way, a newsbreak about Clint Eastwood, who said "they were dumb enough to ask me..." to speak at their convention! Holy cow, Romney is going to need to sit down for good this time.
Tuesday September 18, 2012, 4:34 pm
It feels to me like he is Palin in Ken clothes. This Romney campaign is even funnier than the insanely funny republican primaries!! This is all turning out better than we could have hoped.
Tuesday September 18, 2012, 6:54 pm
Thanks Tom. I'm one of the 47% and also one of the smart ones that Santorum mentioned. Nope they won't get my vote or support in any matter whatsoever. Got to read the transcript and watch the video of Mitty today. Read and noted
Tuesday September 18, 2012, 7:29 pm
Thanks Tom - I've spent years working for both the Romneys of the world and the kennedys - I have a preference - I've always been able to pay my bills when I've worked for the latter, I've always been respected and better by the latter, and I've always respected the way the latter used their funds - why on Earth would there possibly be a member of the 99% club (identified as the 47%) who would be so masochistic as to vote for this son of a bitch!
Tuesday September 18, 2012, 10:20 pm
Why is it that so many of Romney's supporters don't take offense at being looked upon as losers, bums, parasites, drains on society, etc.?
There's a difference between not paying taxes and not owing taxes. Mitt should consider consulting his army of personal tax attorneys on this issue. Ironically enough, these insults come from a man who refuses to release his own tax returns. The man is a liar, a hypocrite and an elitist.
Tuesday September 18, 2012, 11:25 pm
Rmoney is a political moocher, pandering to the elites and lying to the rest of the American populace in the hopes of becoming POTUS.
From Rick Ungar @ Forbes.com
"It appears Governor Romney is referring to the 47 percent of Americans who did not pay federal income tax last year—22 percent of whom were elderly people on Social Security, while 17 percent were students and disabled Americans. Much of the remaining Americans who paid no federal income taxes were low-income workers who qualify under the law for the earned income tax credit but do pay payroll taxes. Ironically, many of these low-income, non-federal income tax paying people are white, working class Americans who are a part of Romney’s base of support."
"UPDATE: My old friend, Jon Vein, brings to my attention the greatest irony of all – the states with the greatest number of Americans who don’t pay federal income taxes …lean Republican."
Is there any doubt that Romney is a pandering idiot that doesn't give a rat's ass about anyone and is merely playing the gullible as pawns in his quest for power?
When the term "class warfare" came up months and months ago, Rmoney, Boehner and others accused Mr Obama of initiating it, of being divisive. Well, I didn't believe it then and I certainly don't believe it now. Caught on tape, Rmoney is the divisive one. Rmoney is clearly the one engaged in class warfare.
I watched the clip of Mr Obama on the David Letterman Show. In response to Letterman's question about the 47% tape and comment, Mr Obama answered as follows:
"I don't know what he [Rmoney] was talking about, but I'll tell you this, when I won in 2008, 47% of the American people voted for John McCain. They didn't vote for me. What I said on election night was even though you didn't vote for me, I hear your voices, and I'm going to work as hard as I can to be your president. And one of the things I've learned as president is that you represent the entire country … my expectation is that if you want to be president, you have to work for everyone, not just for some. . ."
Now, juxtapose that comment against the elitist comment of Rmoney — he won't worry about the 47% etc etc ad nauseum.
Wednesday September 19, 2012, 2:12 am
Anyone else noticed that Rmoney can't even count? '47, 48, 49, fortyyyyyy ' God help us!! I am so glad that people like Tom Strickland are leveling their sights at Rmoney - and the daft git is giving them the ammo himself! God bless all those shredding him on this - including E J Dionne who has come in with the most delightful analysis of Rmoney's figures in his interview by Ed Schultz! Rmoney has proved he despises everyone not like him - he despises the elderly, veterans, those with children (but not with millions of dollars) and everyone else not a multi millionaire or billionaire. According to his one income tax return he has paid 13 - 14% of tax - FARRRR less than the middle classes do - so how BAD are the tax returns he is hiding so resolutely?!!!
Utterly excellent and brilliant piece TomCat - wish the computer would let me send you more green stars but it won't. Ed Schultz and his interviewees are BRILLIANT!!!
Wednesday September 19, 2012, 6:02 am
I would say Obama hates our country:
Yes, he told us in advance what he planned to do.
Few were listening.
The following is a narrative taken from a 2008 Sunday morning televised "Meet The Press."
From Sunday's 07 Sept. 2008, 11:48:04 EST, Televised "Meet the Press" the then Senator Obama was asked about his stance on the American Flag.
General Bill Ginn, USAF (ret.), asked Obama to explain WHY he doesn't follow protocol when the National Anthem is played.
The General stated to Obama that according to the United States Code, Title 36, Chapter 10, Sec. 171...
During rendition of the national anthem, when the flag is displayed, all present (except those in uniform) are expected to stand at attention, facing the flag, with the right hand over the heart. Or, at the very least, "Stand and Face It".
NOW GET THIS !!
'Senator' Obama replied:
"As I've said about the flag pin, I don't want to be perceived as taking sides....." "There are a lot of people in the world to whom the American flag is a symbol of oppression...." "The anthem itself conveys a war-like message. You know, the bombs bursting in air, and all that sort of thing."
(ARE YOU READY FOR THIS???)
Obama continued:, "The National Anthem should be 'swapped' for something less parochial and less bellicose. I like the song 'I'd Like To Teach the World To Sing.' If that were our anthem, then I might salute it. In my opinion, we should consider reinventing our National Anthem as well as 'redesign' our Flag to better offer our enemies hope and love. It's my intention, if elected, to disarmAmerica to the level of acceptance to our Middle East Brethren. If we, as a Nation of warring people, conduct ourselves like the nations of Islam, where peace prevails - - - perhaps a state or period of mutual accord could exist between our governments ......"
"When I become President, I will seek a pact of agreement to end hostilities between those who have been at war or in a state of enmity, and a freedom from disquieting oppressive thoughts . We as a Nation, have placed upon the nations ofIslam, an unfair injustice,which is WHY my wife disrespects the Flag, and she and I have attended several flag burning ceremonies in the past."
"Of course now, I have found myself about to become the President of the United States and I have put my hatred aside. I will use my power to bring CHANGE to this Nation, and offer the people a new path. My wife and I look forward to becoming our Country's First black Family. Indeed, CHANGE is about to overwhelm the United States of America."
Wednesday September 19, 2012, 7:25 am
Although this thread is about Mitt and his empty head, just for the record, John, I'd rather have "I'd Like to Teach the World to Sing" as our anthem, too... and a lot of people who wear flag pins and salute the flag are actually about as patriotic as gravel in a driveway. Mitt, for instance, who pays less tax than most Americans and yet has the gall to call those same Americans "victims". Mitt, for instance, who keeps his money out of the country - Mitt, for instance, who has no clue what the every day people go thru just to survive. Mitt, who wouldn't mind being Latino for awhile so he could win this election. Mitt, who has no clue....
Wednesday September 19, 2012, 8:19 am
"As I've said about the flag pin, I don't want to be perceived as taking sides....." "There are a lot of people in the world to whom the American flag is a symbol of oppression...." "The anthem itself conveys a war-like message. You know, the bombs bursting in air, and all that sort of thing."
I myself personally would like a new National Anthem as well. I too feel it is not setting a good tone for the Nation today. I understand when it was wrote, it made sense, during our Civil War, that we did not become a divided Nation we did remain intact, although badly bruised.
And yes, for the American Indian, the flag does represent to many oppression. Maybe a new design that will feel more inclusive to all people's who make there home upon this land might not be a bad idea. Canada use to fly the Union Jack but now has the red maple leaf in the red and white design. I recall how people were very mixed upon a change in their flag, that for some they couldn't possibly bear to fly anything but what they were use to flying.
The flag is simply a piece of cloth, that people place ideals behind, and if the people of today, do not relate to the same design that made sense to a previous generation of people, why can't the flag be changed? It would still represent our Country, in fact we may all find a new flag would be more representative of our Country of today. As in Canada, those who wanted to still fly the Union Jack were allowed to, so that could be the case here.
And I do feel what he was saying, that by our unprovked war of going into Iraq we have made a mess of things and have gotten many angry at us. How would we like it if some other Country came over here and said they didn't like something about us and invaded. Do you think we'd like it? Iraq didn't have Weapons of Mass Destruction, that was a lie, and the ones in Power knew it. Our allies were telling us, this, and what did we do, listen to them? No, we made a mockery of them, like with France, and changing the fries from French Fries to American Fries. Here were our allies were trying to prevent us from doing a foolish and costly mistake and we made fun of them.
Again, maybe Obama could of phrased it a bit better, but I get the meaning behind his words. Perhaps is why he was awarded the Peace Prize. I think it was an extremly poor statement of his wife disrespects the flag, that I do agree is a bit strong, I might not like what this Country is doing, but while our sons and daughters serve under it I would not say disrespect the flag. I think the flag (our Country) is in distress, I'd perhaps fly it upside down, for we need to get our Nation going in a better direction in many areas. Again, no disrespect to the flag or the Country but a clear statement that we need to do better.
I also agree with Arielle, that was a real cheap shot Romney used on not minding being Latino for awhile. I will tell you, if I had a magic wand and could grant him that wish I'd do so in a heart beat and he'd be out there in the fields picking ferns in the hot Florida sun, living in hot single wide mobile homes, trying to feed his children on low pay. A lot of mexicans had to move here to find work because NAFTA destroyed their ability in Mexico to earn an income.
Anyone ever put 2 plus 2 together and wonder why there hadn't been a major influx of hispanics before? You can thank the PRIVATE CORPORATIONS that got our Government Leaders to sign NAFTA into being. The Elites all made out fabulously well, while the mexicans and those of us non Elite citizens who all now had to fight over the same jobs that lowered and stagnated our wages; we got the shaft. But according to Romney there was some big benefit to what they did in this political and economic destruction of both laborers in the USA and Mexico, that he'd do better if he was latino or chicano.
He has his Elitist nose so high up in the clouds he doesn't even grasp how racist, bigoted, heartless, and darn right disgusting his talk is. Romney, I hate to inform you, your sh*t stinks too. You are not above anyone simply because you have more "material stuff" in life. This "material stuff" has hardened your heart and has made a fool out of your mind. You might have money, but you lost your spirit in the process. Give me a humble spiritual man or woman any day of the week that lives simply so others can simply live, and serves their brothers and sisters with kindness and compassion.
You, Romney have lost the message of the one who Created you and all your "material stuff" is costing our Earth home to suffer, our rivers to sicken, our air to become polluted, and our lands filled with toxins. How DARE you look DOWN upon your brothers and sisters and mistreat our Earth home the way you and the ones just like you have done.
Wednesday September 19, 2012, 9:19 am
John, it took me all of two second to find the B.S. story you posted listed among the "urban legends" that you and your tea party friends "choose" to believe! It's time people took it upon themselves to go on a fact-finding mission, because a lot of the crap you see online is simply not true, and it's totally irresponsible to accept obvious lies as fact just because you want it to be true
The e-mail has been widely circulated and posted on dozens of blogs because it has a few elements that make it look authentic. It says that Obama made the remarks "on Sunday's Televised 'Meet the Press,' " and the account appears to be written by Dale Lindsborg of the Washington Post . And unless you are a keen student of cola advertising, you might miss the satirical suggestion about the song.
So let's put the Coke song on the turntable as we examine the new e-mail.
It begins, like so many chain e-mails attacking Obama, with a subject line that invokes patriotism: "Meet the Press - read this if you're an American."
It says the account is "a narrative taken from Sunday Morning's televised 'Meet the Press', and the author is employed by none other than the Washington Post."
It says that on the Sept. 7 show, Obama was asked by "General Bill Ginn' USAF (ret.)" why he doesn't follow protocol when the national anthem is played. (That question is based on a photograph of Obama standing with his hands folded at his waist while Sen. Hillary Clinton and others have their hands over their hearts. It has been misinterpreted in many chain e-mails as an indication that Obama refuses to say the Pledge of Allegiance, which we addressed with this article .)
During the Meet the Press appearance, Obama is said to have replied, "As I've said about the flag pin, I don't want to be perceived as taking sides. . . .There are a lot of people in the world to whom the American flag is a symbol of oppression. And the anthem itself conveys a war-like message. You know, the bombs bursting in air and all. It should be swapped for something less parochial and less bellicose. I like the song 'I'd Like To Teach the World To Sing.' If that were our anthem, then I might salute it."
Obama, it says, continued: "We should consider to reinvent our National Anthem as well as to redesign our Flag to better offer our enemies hope and love. It's my intention, if elected, to disarm America to the level of acceptance to our Middle East Brethren. If we as a Nation of warring people, should conduct ourselves as the nations of Islam, whereas peace prevails. Perhaps a state or period of mutual concord between our governments. When I become President, I will seek a pact or agreement to end hostilities between those who have been at war or in a state of enmity, and a freedom from disquieting oppressive thoughts. We as a Nation have placed upon the nations of Islam an unfair injustice."
It then abruptly shifts gears to his comments about his wife Michelle: "My wife disrespects the Flag for many personal reasons. Together she and I have attended several flag burning ceremonies in the past, many years ago. She has her views and I have mine. Of course now, I have found myself about to become the President of the United States and I have put aside my hatred. I will use my power to bring CHANGE to this Nation, and offer the people a new path of hope. My wife and I look forward to becoming our Country's First Family. Indeed, CHANGE is about to overwhelm the United States of America."
It is signed "Dale Lindsborg, Washington Post."
It would be difficult to tally the many, many ways this e-mail is false, but we'll start with the obvious ones. First, Obama was not on Meet the Press on Sept. 7. The guests were Joe Biden and New York Times columnist Thomas Friedman. Nor was Gen. Bill Ginn on the show.
Ginn is indeed a retired Air Force general and not a fan of Obama. In an interview with PolitiFact, Ginn cited Obama's association with Weather Underground co-founder William Ayers, the group ACORN and his former pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, as just a few examples why he does not want Obama to be president.
But Ginn said the Meet the Press account was fabricated and that he had never spoken to Obama. Ginn said his name might have gotten attached to the e-mail because of a message he sent to a friend expressing concern about Obama not putting his hand over his heart during the national anthem.
Neither is Dale Lindsborg a reporter at the Washington Post . Anne Kornblut, a real political reporter from the Post , said in an online chat that she checked the paper's directory and couldn't find anyone by that name.
And, Obama's quote is fabricated. It seems to be a mashup from at least two sources. The anthem part comes from a satirical column published on the Web in October 2007 by Arizona writer John Semmens that produced the original bogus e-mail that we checked last spring.
We couldn't determine the origin of the part about redesigning the American flag "to better offer our enemies hope and love," but a search of the Project Vote Smart database of Obama's speeches indicates he has not uttered the phrase. He also has not made the remark about his wife disrespecting the flag, according to the Vote Smart database.
This chain e-mail, like most that we've checked, is false. In fact, it's so ridiculously, maliciously false, that it sets the Truth-O-Meter ablaze. Pants on Fire.
Wednesday September 19, 2012, 9:32 am
Dandelion and Susanne - can't send you stars but I can say I'm proud to know you - These are the true patriots, John - they are the ones who love this country way beyond a piece of cloth or a bunch of false rumors.
Wednesday September 19, 2012, 9:40 am
John: The analysis posted above was provided by PolitiFact. I will add a hot link below so that you access it yourself. WHY are you spreading this hate-inspired garbage? I don't understand it, John! You're an intelligent man. As stated by Politifact, "It's so ridiculously, maliciously false, that it sets the Truth-O-Meter ablaze with a PANTS ON FIRE" rating! I could smell the smoke before I finished reading your comment. I can't understand why you couldn't --because it was your pants that were burning!
Please stop spreading these hate-filled lies. That's now how it's supposed to work. If you want to influence someone's vote, do it fairly. I realize that Mitt is burying himself, but that doesn't mean that people who don't want President Obama to be re-elected should go on a lie-spreading frenzy to ensure that he isn't!
Wednesday September 19, 2012, 9:54 am
Good work Susanne, and it makes sense on the Michelle statement of her disrespect. I didn't think that sounded right from other comments that Obama has stated. I've been a little bogged down today, and the part of flag burning also did not make sense.
However, many people would like to find a more up to date National Anthem, an easier one to sing, one more for our today. I will stand by my support of that quote, and even take into possibility of an updated flag, to be more inclusive our the First Nations people. Let them come to a concesses as to what that would be, an eagle added onto the exisiting flag or whatever. Have all the people of the usa come to a vote on some various suggestions or to leave it as it is.
When the National Anthem is playing most people do stand, Obama stood, oh dear he didn't have a flag pin on in one of the photos, I think is when this all got started. The right speaks about having their freedoms, but only the so called freedoms "they" seem to want. So shouldn't he have the freedom to wear a pin or not on his lapel?
And we do need to turn down the conversation, even on C2, I see it all the time, the bashing of others simply due to the fact they live in another Country or practice another faith. I have seen Obama trying to be less combative and more diplomatic, which is what we need, not to be beating the drums of war all the time. The Romney's get up and make combative and stupid statements but it is someone else's son or daughter that takes the heat from it, not one of their children.
Wish I could give you another green star Susanne, unfortunately too soon.
Wednesday September 19, 2012, 9:57 am
Arielle, I'm proud to know you and Dandelion, too. As the election draws near, people who hate Obama for reasons that you and I and Dandelion are fully aware of but can't accept will be spreading lies from "emails-gone-viral," as fast as we can refute them --but we have to call them on it because there are those who read the comments and believe them because the people who create the propaganda falsely cite credible sources for their lies. That's not how an election should be won.
I'm proud to be YOUR friend and ally, Arielle. It appears that we're going to be very busy for the next several weeks!
Wednesday September 19, 2012, 10:25 am
No matter what Romney plans to do or what he says, the Republican/Tea Party are going to vote for him. KNOW THAT. We need to work twice as hard to get people registered and ready to vote and get them to the voting places. We have to be on guard for anything coming at us, they will lie and steal to get the presidency.
GET OUTTHE VOTE! OBAMA/BIDEN 2012
Wednesday September 19, 2012, 10:57 am
I am sincerely glad you did that Susanne, because even I was falling for it, although I wasn't feeling right in the last part of it, the disrespect and flag burning, it didn't seem right to me. I have John connected to me and he is a nice person in many ways, but he really needs to check his sources if he is to leave something so damning and like that on the threads.
It is one thing to place actual policy disagreements that someone has done and doesn't agree to, but a whole other ball game when you place untruths, false statments or something that hadn't even taken place. I should of checked it out myself, I normally do, but I've been so busy off of C2 and only hop on here as best as I can lately. I made the mistake of trusting John and what he left, of whom I felt held himself to trustworthy standards, and I'm sad to see he had left something like this on here.
Thank you also for the kind words Arielle and to Susanne who is a smart cookie, a pleasure to know, and a good hearted woman that I'm proud to call friend.
Wednesday September 19, 2012, 11:30 am
Thank you to Susanne, Dandelion, Arielle and of course TomCat for debunking John G's lies. I am beyond words right now over John's deliberate attempts to obfuscate the truth. Thank you.
Wednesday September 19, 2012, 11:30 am
What a remarkable conlusion to this fascinating blog! The women here are strong and a force to be reckoned with! Thanks for your research and catching the lies that the other side are attempting to spread!
I too wish I could send some stars today - a well played hand indeed! If only it wasn't necessary.
Wednesday September 19, 2012, 12:25 pm
Damn, I think I am becoming senile! A thought from yesterday that I kept forgetting (not once but multiple times). . .
So, Rmoney says that his comments were "Not elegantly stated." and he went further to say he was responding to a question and speaking off the cuff.
Well what the hell would he do in the midst of diplomatic discussions when asked a question? Say
"I'll get back to you on that sometime."? or
"Let me get my official speaker to respond to that for you."? or
"I'm the leader of the free world! I don't have to answer the questions of mere rabble!"?
While there might be some very few occasions for that, a POTUS needs to be able to speak off the cuff, intelligently, with purpose and no bear scat! A POTUS needs to be adaptable. I'm sure that some days must feel like the POTUS is in Spain with the Running of the Bulls! That is something that Rmoney is totally incapable of doing!
Wednesday September 19, 2012, 1:00 pm
HAHAAAAAAAA .... Romney speaks the truth and you can't stand it. What is going to happen to the 47% when the number climbs higher if Obie wins another four years. How much more income tax are those of you who do pay it willing to pay in order to accomodate them because of a crappy economy?
This is just distraction ..... It's a pay no attention to the real news attempt to deflect from the abysmal failure of Obama.
Wednesday September 19, 2012, 1:15 pm
Cam, go back to Canada and pay attention to what your own Country is doing, speaking of deflecting, what the heck did you just do. If you can't be helpful to the Americans at least stay out of it, and be careful, the Romney and Koch brothers crap might end up in your backyard next. I'm sure you like the higher minimum wage you have and the health coverage in Canada, at least you all have some type of medical coverage.
Wednesday September 19, 2012, 5:44 pm
Great job, Dandelion and Susanne for finding the truth. It would be difficult to convince a tea party member like John that Romney is not the best choice for America at this time or really any time. Why hasn't he released more tax returns, what is he hiding? Wouldn't trust the man as far as I can throw a stick, none of us should.
Wednesday September 19, 2012, 7:12 pm
Cam, Romney wouldn't know the truth if he accidentally spoke it! Even the most conservative members of his party are starting to turn their backs on him. Did you happen to know that the 47% Mitt was referring to is made up of senior citizens who are collecting the social security and medicare they've paid into all their working lives, and active-duty soldiers, and veterans, and people who, although working one or two or even three low-paying jobs, still can't make ends meet and aren't entitled to health insurance because of their part-time status on each of their several jobs? These people aren't parasites! They're victims! As I've mentioned in other posts --there's a difference between NOT paying taxes and NOT owing taxes.
I don't know what your problem is, Cam, but it doesn't help your case to defend lies and everything that's wrong with this country!!!
Thank you Tom, Dandelion, Arielle, Lee, Lynn, Brian, Yvonne. Camila, Kath, Pam, Joe, John, Lyn, Janet, David, Donald and everyone else on this thread who value the truth. Last time I checked, the words "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal..." had not been removed from the Declaration of Independence. It appears that members of the tea party need to be reminded...
Wednesday September 19, 2012, 8:42 pm
Thanks Tom, As I seem to be late on this post I think that Dandelion, Susanne,Arielle, Lee, Brian,Camila, Yvonne, David,Janet, Lynn, Joe and Donald deserve many green stars for their comment and not to forget you Tom.
Thursday September 20, 2012, 8:02 am
So very interesting that the greatest concentration of 'Moochers' is in RED STATES of Idaho, New Mexico, Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Georgia, Alabama, South Carolina, Florida, and Arkansas. Also interesting is that the RED states are the states that depend on the redistribution of tax monies from BLUE states to keep their state solvent, their citizens alive, their children educated, and clean up after natural and man made disasters. And just why is it that socialist redistribution for the US Military, roads, air traffic safety and control, food safety, border safety, flood insurance..., just never seem to cross their radar. Regardless of the type of government, monarchy, dictatorship, oligarchy, plutocracy, democracy, republic..., every nation, state, county, city, Church, and political party is socialist that exists and functions only through the redistribution of wealth through taxes, tithing, membership fees, or donations. Hell even the most vulture like corporation exists through redistribution wealth they just redistribute the wealth internally and upward returning as little as possible to their labor force, suppliers and customer base.
Friday September 21, 2012, 10:10 am
Hi everyone.... Didn't know Cam was from Canada. Now I understand better.. Thx everyone for going the extra mile.... and finding out what the truth is.
Now... does anyone remember the republican primaries early on.. when all the sahdy dealings were going on? It was after the New Hamshire primaries, that Mitt gave his after speech.. He was not that same charming man he portrayed as everybody's friend and ..him... the good guy.. Obama the failure.
His demeanor was that of telling us american freeloaders .. that there will be more freeloading and entittlements etc.. when he's elected. His delivery caused the hair to stand up on my back. He was meanspirited and spoke with contempt; as if americans had done something wrong for wanting anything of their government in a near depression. That has been the problem; he has not seen us in a near depression. Only sees this when, it serves him winning the election.
A Bishop? from the mormons says Mitt doesn't represent the mormon faith and Tim Palenty has jumped ship and gone to be a lobbyist for the bankers.Yesterdays news. (thursday the 20th).
It has even been reported that Mitt doesn't actively campaign these days.
My concern is a fixed election yet... We know allthings Bush, during his 8yrs with his "brain was corrupt". They were simply above the law and did stuff and got away with it. They did things to people, had them thrown in jail for lies and got away with it. Still gets away with it today.
Having said that... even thos Mitt is getting caught saying things.. He got away with winning the primaries even if he ready didn't..
it has been in the planning for years everything right down to the rigged elections and republican Governors.
I am concerned about theses voting machines.. do they work... how do they work.. are they rigged again... they already have purged the voting rolls.. did the voter i.d thing... citizens united ...big donations and people on the take...
Even if it don't look like he should win.. could he cause karl rove is a crook and the bulk of that party.
Ruthlessness. Mitt is every bit of that and he lies to boot. But he's been telling us all along who he is..
Not only that; what he is saying maybe the overall plan any way.. to change america. I'd advice if you can and have the means stay tune to Msnbc. They seem to keep a better update on the latest happening.
We are living in some bad times. I thought all the other decades were troubling but things are getting more worst than better. merica doesn't deserve this.
The latest in Libya.. the talk is it may have been pre-paln.. Some talk in that video -same story- was talk of using an "event' to his advantage. I don't know.
but we are seeing politicians without a conscience or morality. I am including their big donors who got their eyes on the " prize" of owning America.
Friday September 21, 2012, 10:26 am
Everyone; watch and listen carefully to everything out of everyone. With the patriot act and everything else we have spent the last 1/1/2 yrs talking about , there is an overall plan for us contemptible free loading americans. Romney talks about putting everyone in the militaty and cutting everything else off. Santorum talked about his grandfather and hard work and taking care of yourself in a coal mine. The theme is hard work in hazardous conditions for meager wages with long hours =something rewarding. (per their values).
And don't see yourself as a victim. Don't complain about anything. Already did that long hours thing and worked hard, took a lot of crap. Now suppose to do it again? We all have paid our dues and are now insulted by these people.
I am so leery of it all. ROmney and the republicans.. God help us. so much is happening these days. Tragic stuff.
Friday September 21, 2012, 7:55 pm
We should all be very scared of the Republicans, especially Mittens, who is the worst of all...get out there and vote and take everyone with you to vote as well...Obama/Biden 2012.