Wednesday October 10, 2012, 9:24 am
Yes, I know how to spell. The title is intended to reflect that what Republicans call Science, isnít. This becomes especially clear when we look and the Republicans on the House Science Committee, that oversees the scientific pursuits of our nation.
Science is not interested in politics or religion, science is just facts, no need for belief, you don't even have to accept the facts, they will go on without you. Stop scientific inquiry and investigation and you also stop, the advancement of medical knowledge, cures for disease, even the current growth of the (yuck) oil and gas industry is based on scientific advancement. The rules of the bible, which also include slavery and no human rights for any one but men. They were designed to keep a small group of wandering nomads united under simplistic rules that encouraged warfare, and total control by the leaders.
Those who founded this country were aiming for higher goals then those of the bible, they were attempting some thing unique, the power of the individual over the power of the single leader.
Wednesday October 10, 2012, 4:05 pm
Does trhis mean we can BLIND them with SCIENCE???? Great, now that song is gonna be stuck in my brain cells for the rest of the night.
To these lizard-brained, low-edgimakated (yes, I can spell but this is how Baggers spell it) the Great Book of Myths (the Bible) is their end-all, go-to, highest educating tome they wish to either know or possessw. They fear science because it proves them wrong on just about EVERYTHING. It makes of them what fear-mongering, head-in-the-sand, no-knowing LIARS they are.
Wednesday October 10, 2012, 5:51 pm
I am a Christian, and I have a big problem with Bartonís proposals. Considering that the founding fathers were, in their generation and just before, refugees from state religion and fled the persecution, it is unbelievable that they would have intended that laws be based on the Bible as Barton proposes. Further, they specifically promoted the separation of church and state in the 1st amendment. In England, Henry VIIIís separation with the Roman Catholic church in the early 16th century and the resulting animosity between Catholics and Protestants that lasted well over 100 years, created a climate from which many fled to the New World. For Barton to say that the founding fathers based the constitution in Biblical law is just ludicrous. And his proposal that all US laws should be based on the Bible is an even greater folly. The US is a melting pot of ethnicities, races, and religions. The spectre of religion, in this case Christianity, being the basis for laws is ridiculous. The law must be just and equitable and free from any taint of religion.
And as for science, I think we can clearly say that dinosaurs are still alive and living on the Republican/Teabagger side of the aisle in the US Congress. Indeed, dinosaur flatulence is creating a lot of hot air. Perhaps science can figure a way to harness it, produce cheaper energy and reduce greenhouse gas emissions.
Wednesday October 10, 2012, 6:00 pm
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Thanks Lynn for reminding us of what is true about our country's founding and history. Some seem to want to rewrite both history and science in their own image as if they wanted to make themselves gods.
Wednesday October 10, 2012, 8:59 pm
They are using the Blble to further their own ambitions. Many verses in the Bible can be used to prove several different points, depending on your own perspective. I agree, Tom, they are pseudo-Christians.
As often happens, Lynn S leaves me laughing out loud. Well said Lynn with just the touch of sarcasm this issue needs.
If we are talking only about the Puritans, then we must also remember that they did to their own exactly what had led to the escape from England and Europe. Puritans were obsessed with sin, they almost lavished in punishing sinful deeds. That was not the idea that grew as the separate colonies grew, eventually to gain independence from King George III. By the time we learn about the eighteenth century we see that few cities existed, and church was often a social gathering point when families made the trip from the more remote farming areas. Let's not confuse social gatherings with religious indoctrination. In the eighteenth century the best minds of our country were as involved with the "Enlightenment" as they were with gaining independence. They were not obsessed with making this country reflect any one religious point of view, but rather to accept all religions as being open for choice. It is true that some of our founding fathers were deists, a term that has lost meaning over the years. They believed that people should be free to have a religion or not, that this was a point of independence for the individual.
How quickly history is revised to meet a current agenda.
Friday October 12, 2012, 6:27 am
Wanted to give Lynn another star but couldn't yet. TomCat - excellent article. A lot of scientists are theists of varying descriptions, but don't mention it - many astro-physicists are theists because this world wouldn't exist if the cosmic constant were just one decimal place out. I do wish the Tea Party would read the Gospels and put them into practice - remembering the virtues of repentance and starting anew.