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Lyin' Ryan and the Fiscal Cliff

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TomCat S (128)
Wednesday November 21, 2012, 9:02 am
Everywhere I turn, I see optimism that Republicans will negotiate in good faith. I hate to be a wet blanket, but the Republican Party has a long history of playing Lucy, while Democrats play Charlie Brown. For example, remember that Chuck “snake in the” Grassley (R-IA) bragged about how he delayed ObamaCare long enough for Republicans to mount a propaganda blitz by pretending to negotiate with Democrats. It especially concerns me that Paul “Lyin’” Ryan is now the point man for negations to head off the fiscal speed-bump, improperly called a cliff.

Terrie Williams (798)
Wednesday November 21, 2012, 5:32 pm
I'd like to see him bent over........nevermind. I'll refrain. Never trust a Rethug, especially Ryan or McConnell or as you siad, Grassley.

Lynn Squance (235)
Wednesday November 21, 2012, 8:31 pm
Robert Reich — "… and the Republicans seem not to have remembered who won the election …" — Wasn't it McConnell who, after the results of the election were announced, said Mr Obama did not have a mandate from the American people and should resign? Yet here we are with Mr Obama clearly having a popular vote majority of over half a million voters.

As proof that Boehner, and the Republican/Teabaggers, are not going to play ball, he brought in LYIN' Ryan who campaigned on cuts to, or more appropriately total remodelling of, Medicare, Medicaid, and SS along with closing some loop holes, which of course were never articulated.

This is not Monty Hall's "Let's Make a Deal"! This is the US Congress where representatives are expected to do the people's business, not their own, and the election confirmed that. I like the tone of Nancy Pelosi's reply to a question — the "hell no" tough on Republicans. I did not like Bill Pascrell as he seemed to be doing some double speak. Is he a DINO?

The Republican's have proven over and over again that they have no honour — they do not keep promises. They speak for the convenience of today knowing that they have their fingers crossed behind their collective backs, changing their minds at their will. Mr Obama and the Democrats must stand firm for the people.


. (7)
Wednesday November 21, 2012, 8:33 pm
Lyin Ryan lost, now he's in charge of the Fiscal Cliff? Guess lying pays off.

Chris C (152)
Wednesday November 21, 2012, 8:43 pm
Well, Lyin' Ryan might've gotten re-elected but he'd better watch is "SnakeOil Sam" step next time around!

John B (185)
Wednesday November 21, 2012, 10:29 pm
Thanks Tom for the post. I don't expect to see much give from the GOP in the negotiations. Read and noted.

P A (117)
Wednesday November 21, 2012, 11:50 pm
I completely agree TC - we have to look at all the Repuglicon behaviour over the last twenty years - I would not trust them to tell me the weather outside the window!

As Lynn said "The Republican's have proven over and over again that they have no honour — they do not keep promises. They speak for the convenience of today knowing that they have their fingers crossed behind their collective backs, changing their minds at their will. Mr Obama and the Democrats must stand firm for the people." – absolutely and utterly right – is has driven me frantic over the last few years, when experienced Democratic politicians (who I really would have thought would have known better) have swallowed the Repuglicons incessant lies!

Be Firm, President Obama and ALL the Democrats!


Robert K (31)
Thursday November 22, 2012, 3:22 am
There in no longer any such thing as an honest or honorable Republican.

Diane O (194)
Thursday November 22, 2012, 4:09 am
Robert, you are speculating again. Fire in the belly, Robert, with nothing to back up his blanket statements. Remember that Obama only won by 51% of the votes. That leaves 49% of republicans who have a very different view of how our country should be run both fiscally and militarily. Not much of a majority but a slight majorit it is.

Ryan challenged the CBO not once but twice that their "figures" were wrong. The CBO stood corrected.

Obama intends to raise taxes and when he does get ready for four more years of no growth in our country. In case you haven't noticed, companies are laying off employees left and right because of the ObamaCare shall we call it a "tax?" States are denying participation in Obamacare and are stepping aside and saying to Obama, "Want an exchange in our state? Good, then do it yourself and fund it yourself." Meanwhile, companies are reducing full time employees to part time status to avoid a "tax" that will impact their profit margin. Companies will make the adjustments. Workers will be impacted. High unemployment will rear its ugly head and once again, Obama is left with a sluggish economy and soon a weakened military and no new jobs on top of it. We know Obama knows how to create jobs because he created new jobs for Brazil and China.

I'm not sure history will be good to Obama and his leading from behind reputation. We'll have to see what wonderful and magical changes he'll bring to our country over the next four years. He's getting a rocky not sending a ship out to shoot down the warheads in Iran. A passive response to a very serious problem between Israel and Iran. So, let's sit back and watch what happens. Obama is sending a message to the middle east, a very weak message, but a message indeed. He gets Susan Rice to lie about Benghazi and then he lies himself so we have that to watch as well. Who said what and when and he knew what and when....Obama must be very busy putting out little self inflicted fires that aren't going away.

Arielle S (313)
Thursday November 22, 2012, 6:11 am
Great analogy, Tom - as we know, the GOP tend to think of themselves first, foremost and always - to heck with the rest of us. But President Obama has proven he is a bit smarter than that manipulative, lying, cheating bunch so I have faith....

TomCat S (128)
Thursday November 22, 2012, 7:30 am
Thanks to all but one. The CBO numbers were NOT wrong.

Do not feed the trolls.

Joanne Dixon (38)
Thursday November 22, 2012, 8:21 am
Let's also remember that NO deal is better than a BAD deal. If Congress does nothing now, but acts in January to put a good deal in place, the good deal can be effective January 1. Republicans are merely trying to terrify us with their doomsday harping on a December 31 deadline. After the horrors they threatened us with if they won, I'm surprised they think a ittle thing like a non-existent deadline will scare us now.

Thursday November 22, 2012, 2:41 pm
President Obama you promised the people middle who work like dogs and still havent got money to buy groceries i am i of the 47 percent.Now you and i know the republicans are not going to work with you. Last time you said you were going to raise taxes on the rich and you didnt this time you have to act like the president andeither raise them or let them expire, LEAVE MY MEDICARE ALONE THATS MY MONEY AND SO IS SOCIAL SECURITY I HAVE PAID INTO THAT SINCE I STARTED WORKING. MR. PRESIDENT LET THEM EXPIRE NO DEALS, YOUR THE PRESIDENT NOT JOHN BOEHNER

Roseann d (178)
Friday November 23, 2012, 5:59 pm
Looks like your "job creators" are aholes Diane O. Time to seize their companies under Eminent Domain! For the public good. These companies do it for private and public land... we can do it to corrupt companies. Thanks to your corporate buds fir setting that up Eminent Domain Diane!

Robert K (31)
Friday November 23, 2012, 6:26 pm
After my last comment along comes one to prove it.

irene davis (74)
Friday November 23, 2012, 9:57 pm
thank you!

TomCat S (128)
Saturday November 24, 2012, 9:01 am
Thanks to all five. Kudos to Joanne!
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