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Black Friday Protests at Wal-Fart


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TomCat S. (234)
Saturday November 24, 2012, 10:01 am
Yesterday, thousands of Wal-mart employees and supporters protested over hours, pay, benefits and working conditions. Those demonstrators deserved our support. Sadly, Wal-fart still enjoyed record sales. The reason for that is even more sad.
 

Chris C. (150)
Saturday November 24, 2012, 10:57 am
I SO agree with TomCat! Very sad! I stayed home and enjoyed leftovers! My Christmas shopping has been DONE for a month! YAY!
 

Chris C. (150)
Saturday November 24, 2012, 10:57 am
PS - NONE of my Christmas gifts came from WalMart!
 

Jae A. (322)
Saturday November 24, 2012, 10:59 am
I know this is not cool to say but........in hard times people are looking to save money any and every way they can..as well as where they can. Might have been a better idea to have an all weekend protest following their big sale day...or calling for a 'boycot ' after xmas. Were the economy strong then Black Friday might have been less successful for the WM during a holiday period . It's the Corporation that should be ashamed for treating it's employees the way they have for years now...Blame those who outsource jobs and import cheap goods ,not those trying to make ends meet by buying the sale price goods. Just my opinion.
 

. (7)
Saturday November 24, 2012, 11:22 am
I'm inclined to agree with Jae, it would be a hardship for some families not to shop on Black Friday at WM.
 

Shelly Peterson (213)
Saturday November 24, 2012, 11:22 am
Myself, I have been boycotting Walmart since they first tried to break ground in my local communities, which caused small businesses to close, yeaars ago.
What is sad, #1.) is that the majority of people whom shop Walmart, do so as they feel that is all their failling incomes can afford, as they try to feed and take care of their families #2.) The Walton family can afford to give the employees a livable wage!!!!!!and that is what is incredably sad..the lack of morals and ethics for fellow human beings.
 

tasunka m. (337)
Saturday November 24, 2012, 11:42 am
Never been in one,don't plan on ever shopping there.
That being said,it is about time some employees somewhere raised their voices in unison about all the outsourcing to countries that are questionable.
 

Dave C. (224)
Saturday November 24, 2012, 12:02 pm
haven't shopped at a Walmart in too many years to remember.......cheap is a word to describe their prices, but also their owners, and quality of products.....
 

JL A. (273)
Saturday November 24, 2012, 1:15 pm
The press (e.g., The Nation) confirmed protests in 100 cities (some at more than one store). In the MidWest the death of many towns has been attributed to WalMart moving in just outside of town (so no taxes to the town) and driving the local businesses out of business so their jobs become virtually the only ones around.
In urban areas, comparative shoppers know that they are not the lowest price on everything and can often get better deals elsewhere (research confirms NO store has the lowest on all things and has shown that WalMart has a history of lower prices when they first open a store that change/go up once low price reputation is established).
Sad that so many people are hurting so bad that they cannot afford to shop in ways that support their long-term best interests.
 

Kit B. (276)
Saturday November 24, 2012, 3:06 pm

I have not and will not go into one of these stores. The despicable treatment of employees is but one in a long list of reasons that I will not shop with this company or for that matter in any "big box" stores. As for bargains on Black Friday, that is an illusion, a clever one, but conceived by the "ad man" and is not real. Shop for your Christmas orgy of gift giving through the year, lost leaders are on sale all year, just look for them. Save a little money each month shop locally, and buy one or two things monthly, by October I'm finished with gift buying, and I shop in local stores, not chains. The real "UP" side of doing careful shopping measured out through the year is people need not charge and go into debt by buying out of proportion to what they can afford in any given month. The appeal of saving money on trash goods from China, is simply false.

My family was in retail, back then there was an expected large "take" for the day after Thanksgiving. It was not called "Black Friday", preparations for that day were made through the week, shelves were well stocked, employees sent home early on Wednesday and expected at normal hours for the Friday after Thanksgiving. This is pure insanity to wait in long lines, "camping out" to make a purchase for something, putting each person in jeopardy because of this mania that has over-taken the idea of Christmas shopping. Where is the joy in giving, the idea of sharing? This is madness. And...stores like Wal Fart and the lot are feeding off the "sucker" that lives within each of us. If you had the Christmas spirit you would not be supporting stores that care nothing about the welfare of their employees and even less about the quality of goods you buy.
 

John B. (158)
Saturday November 24, 2012, 3:47 pm
Thanks Tom for the post. I have not set foot in a Wal-Mart store since the 80's because of their treatment of employees. Read and noted.
 

Dotti Lydon (112)
Saturday November 24, 2012, 4:06 pm
That is cute~~WalFart. I have been there twice in my life to buy bird seed. No more. I guess I need to be thankful for a store where less fortunate people can go to buy.
 

Elle B. (82)
Saturday November 24, 2012, 4:37 pm
Ty Tom. I do not shop at Wal-Mart...same experience as Shelly states above.

"There may be times when we are powerless to prevent injustice, but there must never be a time when we fail to protest." ―Elie Wiesel
 

pam w. (191)
Saturday November 24, 2012, 5:04 pm
Interestingly, I passed a Walmart today and saw that the parking lot (usually overflowing) was only about half full!

Clearly, SOMETHING is at work....or NOT, as the case might be!
 

Angelika R. (144)
Saturday November 24, 2012, 6:41 pm
You cannot currently send a star to Kit because you have done so within the last week.
I have also never seen any of their stores from the inside and won't either. I was happy to see the protests on TV after I had signed every petition to boycott that came my way. Thx Tom.
 

Lynn Squance (232)
Saturday November 24, 2012, 8:17 pm
I haven't liked Wal-Fart for a long time. It started when they tried to prevent Canadian workers in Ontario and Québec from organising a union. In Canada, we have the constitutional right of freedom of association which is a fancy way of saying freedom to organise a union. US tactics don't work well in Canada for a lot of things.

Recently, I have found that I can get "pull ups" for my mother there in her size and at a decent price compared to other places — $16.50/14 versus $22 – 24 for 14 elsewhere. That is a big difference for a senior. But I really initially had to 'hold my nose' when I went in — it was a real quandary for me. I asked some of the clerks if they like working at Wal-Fart and nobody has said anything negative.

It seems there are some real disparities, certainly between countries which would not be unusual in my opinion; but also between states and stores or operations. I know I saw a video about Wal-Fart and the warehouse employees, and there certainly seemed to be grievances there. In this video, the woman comments on her $11.10 hourly wage. Given the state of healthcare premiums in the US (thank goodness for the ACA!), that wage won't go far, especially if this is the sole bread winner. But I also agree with Zada when she talks about Target, K Mart, and Kohl's — Wal-Mart isn't the only one deserving of scorn. What is needed in any workplace is respect for employees and a living wage — after all, employees are the face of the company to customers. Mess with employees and a business can really screw the business. But I am also not saying that employees should get everything their way. Somewhere in between is the answer.

 

Past Member (0)
Sunday November 25, 2012, 1:06 am
I don't shop at WalMart, however I know a lot of people do to save money or so they think they are saving money. There are many stores that treat their employees badly, so I must say here that WalMart is just one of the gang and shouldn't be outed. Now on to Black Friday, the idea is good, but the day is horrendous, people getting hurt and killed by a raging mob of people. Sad and ridiculous. There must be a better way.
 

John Gregoire (261)
Sunday November 25, 2012, 6:17 am
Drove by late Friday on way to library (this is a small village) and saw tons of Wal-Martians with basketfuls and no pickets. In this small country area Mal-Wart has been a boon and a needed outlet for basic items. It didn't displace any small businesses as we had none that offered the basics and had to drive 40 to 60 miles to find most things. Not condoning the company's precatices but in some cases it is most helpful.
 

Pat A. (116)
Sunday November 25, 2012, 6:36 am
I have signed plenty of petitions for people employed at WalMart who have been DENIED proper working conditions, denied proper safety procedures and denied proper wages – and been sacked when they asked for the most basic safety procedures.

From the couple of defences of WalMart on PP, I too think it very probably varies from State to State in America – most of those whose rights had been trampled on that I saw seemed to be of Mexican ancestry – and certainly the WalMart Manager who had been so verbally abused that she was taking them to a tribunal was – her boss had sneered at her and called her a 'wetback' – amongst other things.

I am glad that in some places they seem to be doing good – perhaps the other States could measure up if not improve on such things! (Tried to give Kit and others a star but the week isn't over yet...).
 

Carlene V. (203)
Sunday November 25, 2012, 7:02 am
Tom, what a perfect name for that corporation. I know there were some protests around here but the news said shoppers went right on by and entered the store. Will the employees win this battle? I doubt it, WalFart always seems to come out ahead when their employees try to organize.
 

TomCat S. (234)
Sunday November 25, 2012, 9:38 am
Thanks everyone. I admit that there are rural communities where Wal-mart has been a boon, because people had to go many miles away to shop before.

However War-mart is the company single-handedly responsible for the outsourcing of more US manufacturing jobs than any other.
 

Debbie W. (117)
Sunday November 25, 2012, 10:16 am
So stupid ..... Wamart workers should be incredibly thankful they have jobs and NOT protest over hours!
 

Trish K. (93)
Sunday November 25, 2012, 10:24 am
I would never cross a picket line. Americans died for Unions and americans have the right to protest their oppressors. Some Walmart employees need to rely on food stamps to feed their families. The day of Greed BLK FRI
is the perfect day to protest if you were brought up in house that cared about human rights over rights of corporations to go into the black in one month. Open your eyes and stay out of the stores. Give your time. Give your money. Give it directly to the people who need it most. Teach your children well.
 

TomCat S. (234)
Sunday November 25, 2012, 10:36 am
Nor would I Trish.
 

Jeannette A. (146)
Sunday November 25, 2012, 3:22 pm
I live in an area where there are few options other than Walmart... so I pick and choose the best I can, am always polite and friendly to the employees and let them know that being mistreated is unacceptable. I enjoyed the benefits of a union for most of my work life and know that it made life better for not only union employees but for management as well. If there was a picket line, I would not cross....
 

tasunka m. (337)
Sunday November 25, 2012, 3:58 pm
Curious.I was lurking the toon boards and see.that a lot of these kids say they work there but I saw absolutely nothing about the strikes??????
 

Rosa mc (47)
Sunday November 25, 2012, 4:09 pm
You won't ever see me shopping on black friday!
 

John C. (81)
Sunday November 25, 2012, 4:35 pm
Wal-Fart! I loved that!
The garment factory fire that killed more than a hundred workers because there was no emgency exit supplies them. I will not shop there at any time of the year.
 

Sharon H. (290)
Sunday November 25, 2012, 7:23 pm
@Debbie W..."So stupid ..... Wamart workers should be incredibly thankful they have jobs and NOT protest over hours! " Do you realize that they will only allow workers to have just so many hours so that they don't have to give any benefits? They also show them how to sign up for food stamps when they're hired. FOOD STAMPS? You, like the other brain dead people think if you have job for slave wages, never mind that it doesn't support you or your family, you should just lick the asses of the owners for giving you the opportunity to make them even more money. The Waltons are some of the richest people in the WORLD! Sam Walton never envisioned this treatment of the employees and must be spinning in his grave. Go to the Tea Bag article Tom also has and read the caption...one of them is you...guess which one?
 

Sharon H. (290)
Sunday November 25, 2012, 7:25 pm
In case you can't find it, here it is......
http://www.care2.com/news/member/527046926/3490557
 

tasunka m. (337)
Monday November 26, 2012, 8:40 am
well,looks like the strike didn't include so many walmart workers at all.
It was mostly union organizers from CA, who took it more seriously than most of the menial workers could have the courage to lose their jobs in this economy.
Walfart strike; epic fail,as walfart thinks they won
 

TomCat S. (234)
Tuesday November 27, 2012, 7:26 am
Thanks everyone
 
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