Sunday November 25, 2012, 10:58 am
Fossil fuel energy companies have made a fortune, because they have been allowed to externalize the costs of the health and environmental damage they cause onto private individuals and US taxpayers, creating artificially low energy prices and erecting a barrier to entry by green technology into the energy market. More than any other factor, the carbon we pump into the atmosphere every day, because the companies don’t have to pay for the damage, has increased the acceleration toward global climate change.
Sunday November 25, 2012, 11:38 am
Thank you TC for this distressing news. I'm afraid President Obama has disappointed me greatly regarding Environmental PROMISES that were broken. I will patiently await the outcome.
Sunday November 25, 2012, 11:51 am
I agree completely with your comment on the article. I think your ideas are both feasible and very pro-active. I too, see the fine line that the President has to walk, but with the right support and if the Repukelicons can keep their greedy fingers out of the way for once (yeah right) he may just be able to come up with a reasonable plan that can be implemented throughout the nation and be complimentary with the ideas that other global leaders will bring to the UN table during the climate change convention.
Look at the independent changes happening. Cities that are ditching coal, turning to the best alternative fuel sources available to their location. Some states finally reconsidering FRACKING - thanks to those who pay attention to the lasting affects on human, animals, and climate change. Numerous universities and other groups that strongly support divestment of all interests in OIL and GAS. Things are happening and the government will follow, if we make the choice to speak LOUDLY with one voice.
Sunday November 25, 2012, 6:56 pm
I've said for years the people will have to lead and the Leaders will have to follow or get out of the way. This is our very survival and we can't depend or wait for misguided and bought out politicians to save us. I know people were not ready for the Green Party or Justice Party and wanted to stay with this two Party system. I hope it will not be to our determent. I really wanted a Party that was dedicated to stopping the wars and moving strongly in a sound environmental way. But the majority of the people spoke, even if many of them were unaware of the other Parties, so I must deal with what we have.
Sunday November 25, 2012, 11:17 pm
We also need to be smart about political organizing. The majority of us voters believe that something needs to be done to slow climate change. It is not the majority opinion in the US, however, that politicians pay attention to. It's the swing states stupid.
This article answered a lot of questions for me. "Electoral math for ‘all you climate people’ " by Matt Wasson
http://grist.org/politics/electoral-math-for-all-you-climate-people/ Check it out.
Monday November 26, 2012, 1:08 am
"I fully agree with the author that international cooperation is needed, and I am not satisfied with Obama’s environmental record. In his defense, however, the presence of eight Democratic Senators who would goose step with Republicans on energy policy made progress impossible. The following DINOS have joined Republicans to support the Keystone XL Pipeline: Sens. Mark Begich (D-Alaska), Kent Conrad (D-N.D.), Kay Hagan (D-N.C.), Mary Landrieu (D-La.), Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.), Mark Pryor (D-Ark.), Jon Tester (D-Mont.), and Jim Webb (D-Va.)." Could I suggest a remedy? Deselect these Repuglicons in disguise PDQ - and tell them you and others are mounting campaigns to do just that because of their support of Keystone pipeline!
In fact - why haven't the major environmental groups done just that?!
Green star to Mindy - I tried others but the computer foiled me again!
Monday November 26, 2012, 2:13 am
Like with so many things, we need to have a consensus around the globe on moving forward to fight climate change. It has already been proven by volcanic ash and nuclear meltdowns, to name two ways, that events happening in one area can affect other regions. Cases in point — volcanic ash from Mt St Helens and more recently the volcanic eruption in Iceland, and the radioactive fallout from Chernobyl — each of which travelled great distances on wind currents.
Wasn't there a case oe cases where the tobacco companies were required to pay penalties and large sums towards medical treatments that were necessitated by the harmful effects of tobacco use? It seems that there should be similar penalties in the oil and gas industries, and others like asbestos and coal.
Your suggestions sound good to me. BTW, loved that sign in today's Open Thread: A solar energy spill is called 'a nice day', or words to that effect.
Monday November 26, 2012, 2:38 pm
Thanks, Tom. Just a note that Max Baucus (MT), is also one of the 9 Dems. The R's are: Lugar, McConnell, Hutchison, Murkowski, Vitter, Barrasso, Johanns, Hoeven, & Portman. They all deserve phone calls and mailings.
Monday November 26, 2012, 5:34 pm
NOW IS THE TIME.....IN MANY WAYS....LET MR. OBAMA AND ALL YOUR POLITICIANS KNOW....WE HAVE TO KEEP WORKING AS INDIVIDUALS AND BUSINESSES, BUT IF THE GOVERNMENT WOULD GET THEIR ACT TOGETHER IT WOULD BE A LOT BETTER......