Wednesday November 28, 2012, 6:41 am
The Republican Party has broken the Senate, and as usual, it’s up to the Democrats to clean up the mess they have made. Led by Jeff Merkley (D-OR) and Tom Udall (D-NM), joined by Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) and the entire freshman class of Senate Democrats, and supported (at last) by Harry Reid (D-NV), the effort for filibuster reform reform has a good chance of succeeding in January.
If we look at the use of filibuster of the last few years, all that is really needed is for a few lazy, republicans to actually get off their well cushioned chairs and speak for 12 or 24 hours, okay maybe 24 hours is too much for Mitch (turtle neck) McConnell. If the republicans want to filibuster than have it, but follow the rules. A filibuster is broken with 60 votes, but to be a real filibuster, one should not able to just say "we will filibuster this". Do it or shut-up. Or follow the Senate rules and convince enough of the opposition party to vote one way or the other on any even bill, and allow the majority - 51 votes in the "real" world, to win the vote. "Lead, follow or get the hell out of the way"
I don't think the new freshman are about to be intimated by the old guard. We may even see new "leaders" elected in the Senate and maybe in the House.
Wednesday November 28, 2012, 7:52 am
Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) ended a marathon filibuster of the proposed tax compromise, ceding control of the Senate floor after more than 8 1/2 hours.
"I'm not here to set any great records or to make a spectacle," he said at the start of his effort. "I am simply here today to take as long as I can to explain to the American people the fact that we have got to do a lot better than this agreement provides."
The filibuster — or simply the threat of one — has stymied countless legislation in the 111th Congress. Even with a heavy majority, Democrats have often been unable to secure 60 votes needed to invoke cloture. But a filibuster in its traditional sense — a marathon speech by a senator or senators — hasn't been seen in nearly two decades.
Until Bernie Sanders......
If he can do it, then let the rest of them get off their backsides and go to work. If they are truly that passionate in what they believe, then do as Bernie Sanders did, otherwise shut up and get to work fixing the many messes we have.
Don't ever wonder why I'm an Independent voter.....It is the Independent people like Bernie Sanders that has been exposing the right wing agenda and tries to keep a fire at the feet of the Democrats to get a backbone.
Wednesday November 28, 2012, 8:22 am
What y'all said! It ought to be a REAL Filibuster if they really need it then stand up and talk for as long as one can manage or shut the **** up and let the legislation come to a vote.
Wednesday November 28, 2012, 8:36 am
Let's hope these new Dems do what the old guard hasn't. If the rethugs want to filibuster they must follow the rules, after all they are always spouting their mouths off about following rules so they should do as they say.
Wednesday November 28, 2012, 11:21 am
There is nothing like the refreshingly intelligent HONESTY of people like Rachel Maddow and Sherod Brown...thank goodness even the obscene amount of money spent against his re-election didn't keep him down!
Wednesday November 28, 2012, 11:45 am
"…we should be accountable to the public.”… — And that is just what the Republican/Teabaggers haven't been with all their obstruction and bear scat! McConnell has his knickers in such a twist that he fails to realise that the Democrats HAVE thought this through and are looking for a way to more effectively do the PEOPLE's business. They are not stifling debate but rather encouraging debate as opposed to strong armed silence.
Wednesday November 28, 2012, 2:14 pm
The republicans used the fillibuster and silent holds for not getting things done.....yet blamed President Obama for not working with them.
Had it not been for conservative obstruction. In reality, the 110th Congress would have achieved truly landmark accomplishments— reducing America's dependence on foreign oil and its contribution to global warming, and funding long-neglected domestic priorities
Wednesday November 28, 2012, 3:38 pm
I've seen petitions to remove the Filibuster altogether, but I think real filibusters are fine. This bull$hit about justing saying the word & making it so is lazy & such a Lie that only Politicians would accept it as such! Not only should a filibuster be "a thousand words", it should be words pertaining to the bill in question - not just propaganda or reading the phone book. Make a filibuster Hard Work & see how quickly it fades from the RepubliCON repertoire!:)
Wednesday November 28, 2012, 6:24 pm
You cannot currently send a star to Dandelion because you have done so within the last week. I posted Bernie Sander's filibuster reform petition earlier today...he wants to require his example be required for it to be a fillibuster
Wednesday November 28, 2012, 6:54 pm
I wish I could send Kit another green star, but it's too soon since the last one. I agree with her completely when she says, "Lead, follow or get the hell out of the way." Another good way to put it: "Sh!t or get off the pot!"
Thanks for posting this, Tom! And thanks to all who provided links to filibuster reform petitions. I hope everyone signs them all!
Thursday November 29, 2012, 12:40 am
We seem to have a rule of thumb in politics – if we are doing the right thing then the Right Wing SCREAM blue murder and stamp their feet, and predict the end of civilisation as we know it!
We ARE doing the right thing – Hooray for Elizabeth Warren and hooray for Merkley and Udall – and at last 'blue dog' Harry Reid is seeming to realise a few things….. hmmm! God bless Bernie Sanders forever!
Thursday November 29, 2012, 5:05 pm
Thanks Tom for the post and the two video segments. I certainly hope the filibuster rule is changed and I think there is a good chance that it will. McConnell's statement, “Does [Reid] believe that on the day he finds himself in the minority once again that he should no longer be heard?” is incorrect. Both parties use to live under that rule quite well in the past and the Democrats will abide by that rule should they ever find themselves in the minority some time many years down the road. Read, viewed and noted.
Friday November 30, 2012, 10:32 am
Love Dr. Maddow and Sen. Brown. I am "preachin' to
the choir here" (but that's okay) McConnell has indeed
broken the social contract with his party's flagrant
abuse.of the filiibuster and the "hold." Both these need
corrected and it is a simple procedure to do so. Stop
being a coward Mr. Reid!!!
Saturday December 1, 2012, 7:28 am
Thank you both. Be sure that, if we do not reform the filibusterer now, Republicans will if they ever havce the majority and they will in such a way as to silence the minority completely.