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Kit B (276)
Wednesday December 5, 2012, 9:03 am

TomCat may not have decided how he feels about GMO's but I have. I have spent my own time reading and collecting information about this issue. Here is a simple question, if all this food is completely safe and does not contain toxins, then prove it - Label the food! If you can not pronounce the item or lack the information to know what is in your food - should you be eating it?

The word ORGANIC is no protection from toxic foods, but it could be.

JL A (281)
Wednesday December 5, 2012, 3:58 pm
Excellent points Kit!

Kathy B (106)
Wednesday December 5, 2012, 5:06 pm
I'm with Kit on GMOs. The more I read the scarier they become. They're not healthy, and contrary to what you may have read, they're not necessary to 'feed the starving masses'. They are being produced to make money for chemical companies - period.

One convincing video is 'A Silent Forest' it's more than just about trees. Please take 45 minutes of your time to see this.


. (7)
Wednesday December 5, 2012, 10:15 pm
I'm with Kit on GMO's also, I want food that is labeled.

Lynn S (235)
Wednesday December 5, 2012, 10:25 pm
Puzzle 3:15 In my estimation, such that it is, this guy has really let himself go to pot! . . . and that hair cut is just a little prickly. Mine's much shorter.

MoveOn Whether GMOs are okay or not, I don't know. But we have the right to know what is in the food. Unlike corn and cow corn which taste totally different (cow corn is really yukky!), GMOs don't really taste any different. Labelling is necessary. Petition signed at

NY Times One spending cut that could be made would be in the salaries of Republican/Teabagger politicians who obstruct the work of the people in favour of their elite friends, the 1%. It might not be much in the grand scheme of things, but it sure would give the people a boost.

Since Hurricane Sandy laid bare the economics of the northern east coast (NY & NJ primarily), the previously submitted AJA could do a lot of good in stimulating economic growth.

I heard a report that many in NJ and NY don't feel that the FEMA funds will be enough to restore things. What I found "amusing" in this is that NJ is a Republican/Teabagger state and the Republican/Teabaggers are the ones that want to deep-six FEMA.

MSNBC As JFK said "You cannot negotiate with people who say what's mine is mine and what's yours is negotiable." Rachel did an excellent presentation that even a Faux Noise acolyte could follow.

Cartoon A visa granted so that he could take up 3 two month teaching assignments. But then, seeing Hitler in power and all his work destroyed, not to mention being put on a German assassination list with a $5,000 reward, Einstein renounced his German citizenship 28/03/1933 at the German consulate in Antwerp, Belgium and decided to make his home in the US. The following is from Wikipedia and I thought of note because it shows just what some people saw in the US that made it a haven.

"Einstein became an American citizen in 1940. Not long after settling into his career at Princeton, he expressed his appreciation of the "meritocracy" in American culture when compared to Europe. According to Isaacson, he recognized the "right of individuals to say and think what they pleased", without social barriers, and as result, the individual was "encouraged" to be more creative, a trait he valued from his own early education. Einstein writes:

What makes the new arrival devoted to this country is the democratic trait among the people. No one humbles himself before another person or class. . . American youth has the good fortune not to have its outlook troubled by outworn traditions.

As a member of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP) at Princeton who campaigned for the civil rights of African Americans, Einstein corresponded with civil rights activist W. E. B. Du Bois, and in 1946 Einstein called racism America's "worst disease". He later stated, "Race prejudice has unfortunately become an American tradition which is uncritically handed down from one generation to the next. The only remedies are enlightenment and education". "

To say the least, Einstein would not be too pleased with today's Republican/Teabaggers.

P A (117)
Thursday December 6, 2012, 1:50 am
So sorry about your COPD flaring up again - I agree with Kit and Nancy and others about GMOs - they have failed and failed and failed their promises (over a quarter of a million farmers in India have committed suicide because of this - see and others) and time and again properly run scientific studies all over the world have PROVED that animals fed GMOs have MASSIVELY INCREASED CANCER RATES - truly awful! Not to mention the monstrous amounts of horribly toxic and cancer causing insecticides, fungicides and similar that the crops have been genetically altered to tolerate - and THAT is causing super organisms to result - as nature always adapts quickly. It is a total NIGHTMARE and they should be banned until proper real honest research could be done. Then we get onto the appalling lies and often criminal acts of the companies trying to impose their will on ordinary farmers and consumers and leave them with NO choice but to take their products - so far there isn't ONE good thing to say about them!

TomCat S (128)
Thursday December 6, 2012, 9:27 am
Thanks everyone. Kudos to Kit and Lynn.
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