Sunday June 16, 2013, 1:21 am
Ever since the Republican Party scurried to goose-step in lock step behind Wayne LaPierre and the gun industry, I have predicted that Republicans in Washington D.C. would pass no firearms legislation. I was wrong. House Republicans actually have passed a firearms related bill. They want to restrict ammunition purchases by the US government, so nut cases can have more.
Sunday June 16, 2013, 2:38 am
Oh dear – I nearly risked the integrity of my windows with the laughter I exploded with on hearing that the US govt has a 'weather weapon' which caused a tornado in Oklahoma! As for Senator Inhofe's attempt at logic – "I know this as a fact because I know people that uh are concerned about this so there's no down side to it if I'm wrong"…. WHAT??!! Has he been smoking something or is his medication acting up? That isn't the first convoluted sentence with no actual logic or meaning behind it that he came up with in the interview – but I did think it was typical!
So Congress won't bother to try and stop the increasing mass shootings in the country but it can prevent law enforcement agencies from getting ammunition – thus presumably enabling the lunatics to kill even more innocent Americans before they are stopped – if they are stopped. The Far Right strikes again!
Sunday June 16, 2013, 6:19 am
They are either on drugs or maybe in need of them. Inhofe, of course, made no sense as he never does. These fanatics in charge of Congress are making such fools of themselves and sadly the fools who watch faux noise and listen to the likes of Laura Ingrahman are in lock step with them as our country continues its downward spiral. Guess they felt like they better do something about gun control after Sandy Hook and sadly in their backwards way of thinking, they gave more ammo to the shooters.
Sunday June 16, 2013, 8:44 am
"She then played video clips of right-wing personalities like Lou Dobbs, Pat Robertson and head NRA lobbyist Wayne LaPierre discussing the Alex Jones-style conspiracy theory that the U.S. government is arming itself against the population, “stockpiling” ordnance to use against the American people."
I just love Rachel. No one can EVER accuse her of making up the facts as she goes along because she proves them. So, sure, the government is buying up all the ammo to use against us. And give to the Syrian opposition, and Afghanistan, and South Korea. Maybe those good old boys don't tip to the real truth. The government has FOUR military branches, all with enough existing ordinance to level every building, including the outhouses they copied this crap off the wall from, many times over. Somehow I don't think our little planes from Radio Shack are going to counter the F16's. It is just a guess, but this latest conspiracy theory is SO out of bounds, that I'd like to see it engraved on every ballot in 2014 and those who believe can all vote republican while those who have to be assisted from the booth from laughter induced lightheadedness, can vote democratic - and we'll see which side has the great credibility. Seriously, THIS piece of legislation ought be in EVERY democrat's campaign ads next year. I mean, you can't make this stuff up as Rachel likes to say. So hold the republicans feet to the fire with THIS. And those bells you hear ringing off in the distance will be the death knell of the republican party. At last...
Sunday June 16, 2013, 9:44 am
I'd laugh myself silly if it weren't so damned sad, backwards, insane and downright seditious. But then, like all of you....I am a sentient being with common frikken sense.
"You Can Take My Gun When You Pry It From My Cold Dead Hands". Actually, I'm just not having a problem with that.
If the only right in the whole constitution some one sees as worth defending is the second amendment, I think they have missed the point.
Sunday June 16, 2013, 11:06 am
Well the tornados in Oklahoma were due to that area being so heavily populated by Teabagers...Pat Robertson needs to man up on that one I say.
Between "1999 to 2010 roughly 3,000 people in the United States were killed due to terrorism. And in that interval, roughly 360,000 were killed by guns (Actually, the figure the CDC gives is 364,483 ]"...........During that period there was a war declaired on terrorism but not stupidty and or firearms obviously. Now I ask ..how bassackwards can things get...stay tuned to the GOP and find out !
Sunday June 16, 2013, 1:45 pm
All gun control should be abolished along with the last 20.5 years of bad lawmaking including Obamacare, DOMA, NAFTA, GATT, USA-PATRIOT act, Klinton assault weapon ban, Brady Bill, all defective responses to the Twin Tower attack, the DHS, the TSA, and everything else perpetrated by incompetents and traitors like Obama, Klinton, and Shrub.
Sunday June 16, 2013, 4:26 pm
Most of my political views would be considered pretty liberal, but on the issue of gun rights I actually agree with the NRA and the republicans. The facts are that it is questionable to think gun control would have prevented any of these shootings and that gun crime actually is worse in areas like Chicago where law abiding citizens are not allowed to lawfully carry a gun. Gun crime has been going down for the past decade. The assault weapon ban had no effect on violent crime. These facts may be inconvenient to your thinking but that does not make them less valid. I do not support or condone violence, but it is a basic human right to be able to defend ones self. There was recently a survey in the UK out of 20,000 people surveyed 87% supported repealing the handgun ban.
Sunday June 16, 2013, 5:06 pm
Thanks for posting, Tom, everyone needs to be aware of this. Guess I continue to live in upside-down fantasyland. The House needs a good shaking. Of course it will be sent to the Senate, where it SHOULD just die easily. What a waste of my tax money. We need infrastructure repair, which means jobs. We need a Financial Transaction Tax, background checks, and re-instatement of Glass-Stegall. Will any of that ever come up on the floor of the House while these loonies are in charge?
Sunday June 16, 2013, 5:35 pm
I'm so sick of RepubliCON & Corporate Democrat stupidity I think we should just hand out guns at Wal-Mart & let the problem solve itself. I once told an English "cousin" that we give guns out at the airport (I had sent a pic of my family at Six Flags, old-timey Wanted Poster style with all of us armed)..but that was pre-9/11..If CONgre$$ would just Legalize pot I think nobody would care if "they" were trying to take our guns!;)
Sunday June 16, 2013, 6:40 pm
I also feel that many of the old GOPers in Congress are suffering, or enjoying, their dementia. I think there is dementia on a massive scale. It is really the only thing that makes sense of what is coming out of the garbage-mouthed republicons these days. Like Kit, I have no problem with taking a gun out of their cold dead hands either. Have you seen that video yet? "My Cold Dead Hand" a spoof on Charlton Heston's remarks several years ago. Check it out on YouTube.
Sunday June 16, 2013, 6:47 pm
At the time the 2nd amendment was conceived, Jefferson saw that the beauty of it was that it would never be used until someone tried to take it away. Times have changed, and we as a population are much less mature in our thinking now than we are emotionally reprobate. We fear more than we think.
You will have to live with that too.
Sunday June 16, 2013, 8:13 pm
I'm just curious why the crazies on the Right didn't blame that tornado on the people of Oklahoma. That seems to be their MO; blame the people where the disaster hit. Always enjoy Rachel Maddow. Thanks for the post, TomCat. Happy Father's Day!
Sunday June 16, 2013, 9:56 pm
Where are the JOBS Mr. Boehner!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
President Obama's jobs bill has been sitting there for 2 years and the A-hole's in the House are bringing this and so many other completely stupid bills to the floor.
What a complete waste of time and money the House is but then again the Senate at this time because of the very destructive and un-American filibuster rules let the damn minority rule the majority. I can't seem to find better words than TOTALLY DISGUSTING. Remove Republicans/TP's starting 2014 so we can finally get rid of the obstruction and raging cancer called the Right Wing with their only intent to tear this country down to the point that us "little people" have no power at all anymore. They're working on it step by step.
Sure Fred. Do you actually think anyone outside the Faux Noise propaganda loop will believe that?
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a Free
State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall Not
If you insist on the LITERAL standards of when the Constitution was ratified, you must first join a well regulated militia, the National Guard since 1903, when state militias were federalized. Then you may bear your single shot musket.
Seriously, I have no troubled with the right to bear arm, but the argument that common sense regulation would only make places like Chicago more dangerous does not hold water. Regulations in places like Chicago have on effect, because those who have no business purchasing arms like felons, the mentally deranged, and prople on the no fly list can get them at gun shows. Also, the killers who used monster clips would have killed fewer if only they had to stop to reload. I merely want to see the same level of responsibility and accountability to operate a firearm that it takes to operate a car.
Monday June 17, 2013, 7:46 am
Please stop the world, I'd like to get off. Do you suppose dementia is contagious? And all of these OLD, decrepit, pathetic nimnuts have it? And have given it to the GOP? How else do we explain their idiocy?
Monday June 17, 2013, 7:58 am
It only takes a minute if you have any conclusionary factors at all and a small amount of common sense to know that the founders did not mean any weapon, anytime, to anyone. As far as I'm concerned the second amendment was put in place to make sure we could protect ourselves from outside invading powers and the protection from an internal government that decided to go TOTALLY off the rails but even IF our government went TOTALLY off the rails and starting coming after individuals do ya really think you're going to stand a chance. The best insurance we have against tyranny is voting for intelligent, mindful, common sense people that CARE what happens to the country as a whole. It's certainly not having to have an AK under your pillow with clips that hold massive amounts of ammunition. We have guns, I will keep my guns but I sure as hell want some gun reform and restrictions put in place that will HELP alleviate mass killings. Get a Grip NRA members, no one is after your damn guns and just having them WILL NOT prevent a surprise attack from the mentally deranged or just plain sick and evil. There are no perfect answers but doing nothing or screaming for more leniency on gun controls in this country is selfish, stupid and unreasonable. We don't have FREEDOM if every time you go to town or send your kids to school you have the ongoing fear daily of "what if" because every lunatic in the nation has carte blanche and the will and capacity to kill dozens or hundreds of people at a time, decked out in body armor and armed with weapons designed for all out war. Having those types of weapons on our streets takes OUR freedom and rights away. It does nothing to protect you from the next Sandy Hook, Columbine, Aurora, Tucson, Santa Monica, unfortunately I could go on and on with more and more to add to the horrid list almost weekly.
Monday June 17, 2013, 9:32 am
Fred Krohn, you're outed. Since nobody stupid enough to believe what you posted can actually read and write, and since you post so much incredibly dumb crap, it's now apparent to me (I guess I'm not as swift as some here) that you're the Care2 version of the Onion.
Monday June 17, 2013, 9:57 am
There is a flaw in your argument TomCat. Homeland Security was buying up so much ammo that even the military and police forces were having trouble acquiring necessary supplies. Who was HS arming; private security firms like XE International [Monsanto's goons]?
Secondly, no matter how much gun control you have if someone wants to buy a weapon they will find someone willing to sell it to them. Why is it that at gun shows if I know the right people I can buy a 50 cal machine gun or an AK47 or an Ingram? I'll bet I could even buy a Barrett sniper weapon.
Thirdly I am all for extensive background checks but even so it's not going to solve the problem.
Fourthly, how many of these people who went on these mass killing sprees were on statin drugs or other forms of antipsychotics? I'll wager that the greatest percentage of them were.
Monday June 17, 2013, 10:20 am
From my above comment Theordore... "Between "1999 to 2010 roughly 3,000 people in the United States were killed due to terrorism. And in that interval, roughly 360,000 were killed by guns ".....not all these were shootings of mass murders..are by people on drugs or insane.
Monday June 17, 2013, 10:23 pm
We need easier and cheaper access to gun training and the best weapons for the American citizen. Training needs to start early by 5 at least learning how to respect the weapon.
Tuesday June 18, 2013, 3:24 am
Thanks to most. The statistics that Theodore quoted are political fiction. Last fall, the NRA issued a statement saying the claim was being pushed in an “Internet rumor mill” and was designed to “stir up fear.”. Will nothing could ever solve the problem 100%, I suggest that most of the nut-jobs committing mass killings do not know the 'right people".
Scott, I'm all for training, but the "best weapons" from a military perspective are ones that people cannot afford. All the bullets wing-nuts can buy won't stop a tank.
One family realized their son was not only mentality ill, be his behavior led them to believe he could be the next mass killer. They turned him in to authorities. We pay little attention to those who do the right thing for society. No blood, no ink.
I would no more put a gun in the hand of 5 year old, than I would teach a 5 year old to drive.