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Open Thread - 8/26/2013

US Politics & Gov't  (tags: Open Thread )

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Lona Goudswaard (80)
Monday August 26, 2013, 5:55 am
Eager to learn more about American politics, I started on the NY Times piece on Kerry Bentivolio, but soon my reaction was: OMG, how did this nut case get voted in? He's been called "mad" by many, but actually takes pride in being called that! The man is obviously besotted with the limelight and will do anything to get attention.Scary thought that he even got within 15 ft of Obama and could barely control himself. This narcissist may be capable of doing harm just to get those flashbulbs going again!
It became worse after reading that this isn't the only madman among the Republicans who wants to impeach Obama just on the fact that he's black, no other crime needed.

Add Supreme Court Judge Scalia' s very personal interpretation of the constitution and I can only come to the conclusion that American politics are beyond ridiculous by now, I can't even laugh about it any more. Your Cattoon is great TC, but as a statement of fact not to laugh about either.

Thank goodness for Greenpeace' s action in northern waters. Kudos to them and to you, TC, for bringing this little ray of hope.

P A (117)
Monday August 26, 2013, 6:05 am
Is Congressman Bentivolio certifiable? He wants to impeach the President – he has no grounds, but that is his dream. Reminds me un-nervingly of the man who assassinated John Lennon – just because he wanted people to remember his name!

As for Supreme Court Justice Scalia – what on earth?! That sounds on the verge of sedition!

Gosh TC – another volunteer day in prison on Tuesday – AND a 6 – 8 hour journey to see the doctor on Thursday – you are utterly amazing!

Arielle S (313)
Monday August 26, 2013, 6:07 am
Yes, Scalia's "very personal interpretation of the Constitution" indeed! If anybody should be impeached, what a great place to start...and then moving right along to those terrorists in Congress...meanwhile, let's give Greenpeace super power control of the world environment!,

Robert B (60)
Monday August 26, 2013, 6:45 am
Bentivolio is just the type of racists cretin we DON'T NEED in politics. What a despicable jerk. It does not speak well for those who voted for him.

Gene Jacobson (290)
Monday August 26, 2013, 7:32 am
"“If I could write that bill and submit it, it would be a dream come true,” the freshman Republican told a local G.O.P. club meeting Monday in Birmingham, Mich., in a video posted on YouTube and reported by BuzzFeed."

I read this somewhere else this weekend. That borders on hate speech. I wonder if the voters in that fool's district understand the recall process? Because THAT is what I would really find a dream come true. Moron's like this don't belong in politics at any level.

Carlene V (202)
Monday August 26, 2013, 8:43 am
Bentivolio preaching to the choir, keeping the masses in an uproar, salivating to impeach the black president. We also have Tom Coburn saying Obama was close to being impeached as he preached to the baggers in OK. It appears that most of them are back at home on their 5 week vacation keeping those donations coming in from those too dumb to see what fools they are.

Scalia, how about we impeach him? How I wish SCOTUS had term limits, say 5 or 7 years then out.

Kit B (276)
Monday August 26, 2013, 9:06 am

In the last few presidencies there have been many pushes to impeach the president, Reagan, Bush, of course Clinton and Bush the W, none have been fully successful and even Clinton did not meet the level of this crime against the citizens of this country. It seems to really excite the base to cry for impeachment though these Congressional representatives and Senators know that it will not happen. Even Ted (snakeoil) Cruz knows that not liking something is far from being grounds to actually dare to bring impeachment proceeding. Obama is not in reality under any threat, but it sure does whip up the nut fringe.
Thanks TC.

David C (131)
Monday August 26, 2013, 9:42 am
I think threat of impeachment has just become another game for the GOP.....

Pat B (356)
Monday August 26, 2013, 10:08 am
Rest up for tomorrow, Tom, and take care.!! ;-)

Kathy B (106)
Monday August 26, 2013, 12:35 pm
Apparently Congressman Bentivolio isn't a 'fiscal' conservative (are there truly any of those left?) since he hasn't considered how much it costs to try to impeach a president.

Jo S (619)
Monday August 26, 2013, 12:50 pm
Noted & shared.
They are all certifiable!
Thanks Tom.

Joanne Dixon (38)
Monday August 26, 2013, 1:00 pm
Actually there are many people who believe the purpose of the Second Amendment is to protect the people against the government (I was in a conversation with one on LinkedIn who claimed to be a Constitutional scholar with a Yale Law School education), and I am sympathetic to that, especially given the government we have today, particularly certain state governments, but also some of the nonsense the Federal Government is experiencing. However - in the 21st century - I do not think guns is the way to do thet. I can make a better case that freedom of the internet is the way the people need to have their protection, and I am all for more power to the people on it. Oddly, every time I bring this up with a gun person, the conversation sort of quietly dies (which actually reinforces me in my position).

Kathy S, all the true fiscal conservatives are progressives who want to spend a dollar on early childhood education, college, food stamps, etc., in order to get back probably $5 for each dollar spent in economic and social benefits (I think some programs have been shown to return as much as $17 per dollar spent). Or spend a dollar on the environment to prevent having to spend $20 later in cleanup which isn't even successful. Only Republicans want to throw money away.

Past Member (0)
Monday August 26, 2013, 1:02 pm
We need an amendment to the Constitution to protect us from the corporations.

Birgit W (160)
Monday August 26, 2013, 2:47 pm

Lynn Squance (235)
Monday August 26, 2013, 3:46 pm
Puzzle — 3:52 I sure got stung!

NY Times — Bentivolio is bent, so bent that he belongs in a rubber room! And that has nothing to do with reindeer. How the hell did this melon head get elected? He was a teacher and admitted to bullying students. Damn good thing he left teaching because he wasn't fit! And he seems to be doing what all Republicanus/Teabaggers do, including the Reisch Ministry of Propaganda, if the evidence doesn't exist then fabricate it! And as a congress critter he is not fit either. When his goal is to impeach the president, he is not working for the people that elected him.

For some of the rodeo clowns clamoring for impeachment around the country, Barack Obama’s real crime is presiding while black.

I couldn't agree more. What a sad statement that a chunk of the US population has not learned tolerance and acceptance.

Alternet — I read this article yesterday and just shook my head. Scalia and rocket launchers. It took me back a few months when a man in Seattle was stopped by police when he came out of a store having just bought a rocket launcher. He claimed it was his right to bear arms. The police confiscated it and said they would check it out. I don't know how it finally turned out — did he get it back or not? That is frightening and to think an Injustice would muse on such a thing is even scarier.

As to Colorado's Marble, she's lost her marbles. Typical Republicanus/Teabagger racism. And Fischer . . . oh how I detest that man and the way he perverts true Christianity with his vile spew! If the supply side evangelical pseudo Christians feel discriminated, it is only in their own minds. He has a severe case of projection. Dean Young is another bigot who needs to go away as is Mike Coffman who thinks that 97% of climate scientists are wrong. What makes him right? And I won't even get into DeMint and Obamacare. The bunch are not even fit to use as toilet paper!

Common Dreams — And if there is a spill, how will the Russian government and the companies clean it up? Shell couldn't produce sufficient evidence of its abilities and so moved off from Alaska. ExxonMobil, who brought us the Exxon Valdez, will fare no better because the Arctic is a different and brutal environment. We're not talking the Gulf of Mexico here, and look how much damage BP did there.

The Russian government has allowed Rosneft and ExxonMobil to conduct exploratory drilling on 450,000 hectares of park land, in direct contradiction of federal laws that protect the park.

I wonder what the going bribery rate in Russia is? Certainly no Russian citizen can call Putin on this breach of federal law without risking a trip to the Gulag. Way to go Greenpeace!

Cartoon — Cute kitty and the sentiment is spot on, but I'd really like to see a mouse or two in a room with that elephant. I know, mice and elephants is only a myth! . . . but I'd love to see that Republicanus/Teabagger elephant freak out!

James Maynard (84)
Monday August 26, 2013, 9:03 pm
Am highly allergic to bee stings so took my
time - first part's true, second - I'm just slow
on these puzzles.
Bentivolio is certifiable - Scalia, tambien.

TomCat S (129)
Tuesday August 27, 2013, 2:29 am
Thanks to all.

Kudos to Lona. When he ran for office, he was very serious, and it was all about jobs.

Kudos to Joanne. Any revolution that uses bullets will result in the slaughter of its followers. Thw weapons of revolution must be ballots.

TomCat S (129)
Wednesday August 28, 2013, 12:11 am
Bush proved that mass murder won't.
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