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Keystone XL WOULD Increase Carbon Pollution

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TomCat S (129)
Tuesday August 27, 2013, 2:36 am
Barack Obama has said that the only way he will approve Keystone XL is if it can be shown that it will not significantly increase atmospheric carbon. So the State Department, which is, by the way, Hillary’s domain, hired a contractor with ties to TransCanada Corporation, and they produced a bogus report. Now we have evidence that the Canadian government knows that it’s bogus, because they know Keystone XL will increase carbon pollution. Here’s why.

Danuta W (1250)
Tuesday August 27, 2013, 3:43 am

Teresa W (782)
Tuesday August 27, 2013, 4:48 am
very sad

Gloria picchetti (304)
Tuesday August 27, 2013, 5:55 am
Don't get me started.

Past Member (0)
Tuesday August 27, 2013, 6:05 am

Robert B (60)
Tuesday August 27, 2013, 6:06 am
I hate to say this but I predict the the XL pipeline will go through. When it comes to so much money to be made by the greedy it's almost impossible to stop. Just like the drug trade. If we can't stop this then we need to INSIST on transparency and HIGHEST standards possible to insure that the environment is protected as MUCH AS POSSIBLE. And we should not tolerate corruption by government officials. ZERO tolerance.

pam w (139)
Tuesday August 27, 2013, 6:17 am
What Robert B. just said..,..

. (0)
Tuesday August 27, 2013, 7:03 am
Something needs to be done to stop this pipeline so it doesn't pollute us anymore.

Lona G (80)
Tuesday August 27, 2013, 7:10 am
I cant send you a green star right now, but I fully agree with you, Robert B., some time in the near future the Keystone XL project will get the go-ahead. As I commented yesterday, it may be delayed for a while and perhaps it will be up to his successor, but it it will come. If Obama really had wanted it terminated during his own presidency, he wouldn't have made it depend only on an increase of atmospheric carbon, which is the top of the iceberg, but also on all the environmental damage this pipeline itself can and will do. The environmental disasters will ultimately cost the US more than the project will yield, but will not be paid for from its profits which will have disappeared in the pockets of the oil companies and Canada by then. And honestly, I don't think you'll get any transparency and highest possible standards, no matter how much you insist; that deal has been made long ago.

P A (117)
Tuesday August 27, 2013, 7:12 am
I find it worrying that Hillary Clinton's Dept (presumably with her approval) 'hired a contractor with ties to TransCanada Corporation' to see if the Keystone XL would increase carbon emissions – and it produced the report it was expected to which was full of 'errors'. (Surely to anyone with half a brain obviously it WILL increase carbon emissions!). There are half a dozen types of Green Power – why not invest in those – which WON'T increase carbon emissions?!

David C (131)
Tuesday August 27, 2013, 8:33 am
KXL....will provide more destruction than the world can handle....NO TO KEYSTONE XL!!

Bill Clinton is being shown around as big supporter of KXL in American petroleum institute this is bipartisan support for the project.....of course, they also exaggerate big time the # of jobs it will create

Mari 's (1356)
Tuesday August 27, 2013, 8:56 am
Fight it until the end NO MORE Keystone!!

JL A (281)
Tuesday August 27, 2013, 10:05 am
It does seem that Kerry may be investigating this contractor situation--sort of makes me wonder if they were lowest bidder (no charge for things their pre-existing ties to TransCanada gave them access to) or something like that that made it harder not to hire them...

Jo S (619)
Tuesday August 27, 2013, 10:56 am
We must keep onfighting them.
Noted & shared.
Thanks Tom.

Sheila D (194)
Tuesday August 27, 2013, 12:18 pm
Yes, we do have to fight and you're righ,t it'll be up to Obama's successor. This gets him out of a tough, unpopular decision.
We need some very visible celebs to rally more support - support of the people who normally don't pay attention to environmentalists. We need more than one or two celebs to stop this pipeline and others proposed. The more visible the opponents, the harder it will be to slip it by.

Jamie Clemons (282)
Tuesday August 27, 2013, 1:52 pm
Please look into the Enbridge Tar Sands Pipeline , It could be even bigger than the Keystone XL and nobody is covering it.

Chris C (152)
Tuesday August 27, 2013, 1:54 pm
EVERYONE...I got a hilarious video today about changing the names of storms to the full names of our political climate naysayers. You all must check it out and send it along. Its great!

PS - I'll fight KXL to the end!

Yvonne White (229)
Tuesday August 27, 2013, 1:56 pm
"Keystone XL WOULD Increase Carbon Pollution", who could have foreseen?;)

Joanne Dixon (38)
Tuesday August 27, 2013, 2:16 pm
JL, I wouldn't be surprised if you're right. Hire the lowest bidder sounds good, but comes down to buy trash because it's cheaper. How well I remember when the military tried to computerize pay using OCR typewriters. Was that ever a nightmare!

Chris - yes, I posted the video and so did Cal, his made the front page. Everyone needs to be sure to scroll down to the petition after viewing

Kevin Lewis (1)
Tuesday August 27, 2013, 7:05 pm
We have to get the energy some place

Lynn Squance (235)
Tuesday August 27, 2013, 9:09 pm
If anyone doesn't think Harper and his harlots are not planning on expanding production of the tar sands, think again! If anyone doesn't think that Harper and his harlots will do whatever they damn well please, think again!

From 2009 Oil Economy Driving Growth of Controversial Tar Sands

"A report from one of the world's top energy consultancies says oil production in Canada's tar sands could see a five-fold increase by 2035."

From 13/06/11 Canada Hiding Its Carbon Emissions Growth Amidst Rapid Tar Sands Boom

"This year, Canada is taking a unique approach to lower its reported emissions in preparing the annual carbon inventory – it has purposefully excluded information in order to give the false impression that when it comes to climate-altering tar sands pollution, “everything is fine.”"

From 01/11/12 Tar sands planned growth is 3X climate limit

"By 2020, the industry could have over 110 million barrels per day (bpd) of production capacity in place. This is over 22 million bpd more than International Energy Agency (IEA) models say we should be using in that year if we are to reduce the risk of warming the planet more than an average 2 degrees C."

Does this sound like a government that is honest and transparent? Does this sound like a government that cares about the planet and people?

The original environmental assessment submitted to the US State Department by a company that had done work previously for TransCanada, was a sham. Can you say "conflict of interest"? Yet the State Department engaged their services and to nobody's surprise, I'm sure, the report "extolled the virtues of the Keystone XL".

"Barack Obama has said that the only way he will approve Keystone XL is if it can be shown that it will not significantly increase atmospheric carbon."

We've all heard him say it more than once, I'm sure. Well guess what Mr President, the Keystone XL can't help but boost the carbon emissions, and more than everybody thinks because the Rt disHonourable Stephen Harper has plans. There are about 4 billion barrels of regular crude oil reserves in Alberta, but there are about 168 billion barrels of the toxic bitumen tar sands oil. That should tell everybody where Harper is headed.

As most know, many Canadians are fighting against the other pipeline, the Enbridge Northern Gateway, that would see a bitumen pipeline run from Alberta, across pristine wilderness to the Pacific coast near Kitimat, BC, loaded onto oil tankers and then sent across to China and down the coast to California I'm told. From California it is supposed to be transported to Texas. Harper is currently running radio ads about increasing air patrols to monitor the Pacific coast tanker traffic, more strenuous inspections of all tankers all in order to help the environment. Now there has been no official decision about the Northern Gateway after the hearings were concluded earlier this summer. Despite the outcome from the hearings, I think Harper, in his usual controlling and bullying style, is going to approve the Northern Gateway, no matter what. Does that sound like a plan that will reduce carbon emissions?

Whether it is the Keystone XL or the Northern Gateway, carbon emissions are going to increase because of the expansion of the tar sands.

Edith B (146)
Tuesday August 27, 2013, 9:16 pm
Anyone with a brain should know this project will be harmful to both Canada and the US. Profit drives everything these days.

Lynn Squance (235)
Tuesday August 27, 2013, 9:19 pm
Oh, and BTW, there are also talks about using the TransCanada #9 line to ship bitumen east which would like end up in Maine for shipment to the Gulf, or a new line that would go to the Arctic coast. The eastern route is the one being talked about the most, other than Enbridge. Let's just say that the Rt disHonourable Stephen Harper is not putting all his eggs in one pipeline.

In my opinion, 2015 can't come fast enough. Unfortunately, Canada does not have impeachment options.

Robert O (12)
Tuesday August 27, 2013, 9:26 pm
Just thinking about that pipeline makes me sick to the core and livid. Thanks Tom.

Katie and Bill D (107)
Tuesday August 27, 2013, 11:42 pm
Yes we are Livid about this! Disgusting! Keep watching this!! Too many "Shady" things happening!! Let's hope it is investigated!!
Thank You Tom

TomCat S (129)
Wednesday August 28, 2013, 12:03 am
Thanks to all. Major kudos to Lynn. I wrote an article. She wrote a book. ;-)

P A (117)
Wednesday August 28, 2013, 12:07 am
Thanks Chris C for the link to
Terrifically funny and tremendously well done film - please everyone sign the petition - climate change affects us all, everywhere in the world!

Roseann d (178)
Wednesday August 28, 2013, 4:52 pm
It's time to start pressuring TransCanada to remove their pipeline and restore the entire route to its original untrammeled and natural state. There ya go...finally TransCanada can create a ton of American jobs.

TomCat S (129)
Thursday August 29, 2013, 1:02 am
Thank you both!

Alice C (1797)
Thursday August 29, 2013, 4:40 am
We need energy conservation and investment in clean energy development ~ not a pipeline of dirty oil and or gas.
Thank you for this post Tom.
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