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Republicans on Parade - 9/22/2013

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TomCat S (131)
Sunday September 22, 2013, 2:21 am
Here is the twenty-eighth article in our Republicans on Parade series, featuring individuals who personify what the Republican Party has become. Today’s honoree is US Representative Tim Huelskamp (R-KS), infamous for hatred of LGBT folks. He is honored for an assortment of hateful TEAbuggery, plus one HUGE lie!

Past Member (0)
Sunday September 22, 2013, 4:47 am

P A (117)
Sunday September 22, 2013, 5:29 am
Oh they make me feel even iller! (Which would please them – I must think about kittens and puppies and flowers and the good in the world and feel better!) Yesterday I found a series of photos in the Huff Post with politicians lies on it – yes, they were Repuglicons – oh they were baaaaddddd!!! This reminds me of them – just lying for the sake of it – I don't believe that they believe the lies that they tell, they just want to convince the masses that their whoppers are true!

I just made a comment on C2 on the politics page where there is an article about Repuglicons stopping food stamps – someone called Cyan D appears to feel everyone on food stamps is a sponger – so I quoted Matthew 22 36 – 40 and Matthew 25 31 – 46 inclusive – on her page she says she is a Christian – so I thought perhaps she should remind herself of some of the things our Lord said.

Kit B (276)
Sunday September 22, 2013, 5:52 am

Thanks TC for the Barf Alert! When a person only talks to those who already agree with him, there is a disconnect between, what he wants to believe is true and what is actually truth. Over and over the recent talk is about how much Americans do not want Obama care, and if you ask the right question the polls can show what you need to hear. The truth is that Americans do want access to health care. We know that health care as it was, is far too expensive and affordable only to a few and not within reach of the many.

*Americans spent an estimated $8000 per person on health care in 2011.

Wealthy countries spend more on health care. But even among high-income, economically developed countries, the U.S. spends far more than the next highest country.

For 2009, The U.S. spent $7960 per person, compared to the next highest-spending country, Norway, at $5352 per person. Our neighbor to the north, Canada, spent $4363.

Why does U.S. health care cost more?

It's the prices: There are two primary factors to consider: unit cost of medical goods and services and the amount of care delivered. According to the 2011 Milliman Medical Index, unit costs for medical goods and services are the biggest driver of overall health care cost.
Even though number of in-hospital days was nearly the same from 2009 to 2010, the cost of those days went up more than 10 percent.

It's the waste: The Institute of Medicine calculates that in 2009 alone, the most recent figures available, the U.S. wasted more than one-third of the $2.5 trillion dollars we spent on health care. The IOM identifies $765 billion wasted through:
Unnecessary services
Defensive medicine
Unnecessary use of high-cost services

Administrative waste:

Duplicative costs of administering different plans
Unproductive documentation
Inefficiently delivered services
Medical errors
Uncoordinated care
Inefficient operations

Too-high prices

Prices higher than competitive levels
Excessive variation in service prices

Medicare/Medicaid fraud
Insufficient investment to detect fraud

Missed prevention opportunities
Poor delivery of clinical prevention services

It's where we live: The Dartmouth Atlas of Health Care has documented more than two decades of regional variation in Medicare patients, both for standards of care received and cost of care delivered.
Costs vary from $5,200 to more than $17,000 per person depending on region.
Diabetes management: Not everyone gets equally effective care, ranging from 66.6 percent of the time in Albuquerque, N.M to 86.5 percent in Burlington, Vt. This can lead to inequitable outcomes, severe long-term health consequences and higher costs.


Each of us has a role in helping health care become more efficient, affordable and effective.
Improve health. Our public and private sector health organizations should help us be healthier. According to the World Health Organization, Americans lead high-income countries in:

Higher body mass index rates, which correlates thigher disease rates
Higher rates of chronic disease, especially those most affected by lifestyle, like diabetes, cardiovascular disease, high blood pressure and lung disorders

Improve quality. Adopting different delivery and payment models can better coordinate care, improve patient outcomes, reward quality and promote wellness

Reduce waste. The Institute of Medicine's Health Care Imperative identifies $463 billion in savings through best practices for providers and insurers

Expand access. Federal health reform has already extended coverage to those under 26 and high-risk individuals. In 2014, subsidies will help those with lower incomes to get publicly funded coverage, and private insurers must accept everyone who applies

Increase awareness. Consumer awareness about how to compare treatment effectiveness and costs can influence quality and affordability.

We obviously are on the wrong path as things were and though Obama care may not be the best course, it is the much improved over the past 20 years. The republicans have nothing in the way of either improvements or course corrections to make health care more affordable or greater access to the general public.

Healthcare is incredibility expensive in the US, for the individual and for the government. For a party that once took pride in fiscal responsibility, the republicans have failed on this and still offer no alternative.

Sorry this was a bit long, TC - I thought may these facts would help.


Winn A (177)
Sunday September 22, 2013, 7:54 am
They are disgusting and despicable and all of them should be voted out of office in every state at every opportunity.

pam w (139)
Sunday September 22, 2013, 8:50 am
"Then, Huelskamp asserted that voters will side with the GOP because a whopping “90 percent” of Americans oppose the reform law’s provision that “every single person under Obamacare” will pay a $1 abortion surcharge…"

+++++++++++++++ Is there ANYTHING they won't say?

Roseann d (178)
Sunday September 22, 2013, 9:35 am
It's unfortunate that the ones that need to read TomCat's posts and many other worthy posters here do not yet continue to wallow in ignorance.

Besides insurance industry for profit fraud, Americans do share the costs of those unhealthy individuals that eat the unhealthy 5 pound breakfasts from artery clogging Hoover's Beef Palace, smokers, and processed frankenfood.

Gene Jacobson (290)
Sunday September 22, 2013, 9:55 am
"Of course he was lying in normal Republican fashion. There is no such thing as an abortion surcharge in ObamaCare."

Oh, so typical Republican fashion, doesn't that book they claim to follow contain a prohibition on lying? Maybe it is that they don't understand that "that thou shalt not bear false witness" means "thou shalt not lie", maybe they think it means if they happen to witness an event to which they were a witness they have to tell the truth about it? No, that wouldn't work either, they were present for the 2012 election after all and do know how that "event" turned out even if they do ignore the polls regarding the popular vote and what the American people really think of the HCA.

But it isn't just republican politicians, it is the pundits too. The Minneapolis Star Tribune, which used to be two papers the Star, afternoon version, and the Tribune, morning version, has long been known as a "liberal rag", for much of my lifetime they didn't even pretend to be fair and balanced, they were liberal and darn proud of it. The last couple decades though has seen an influx of red state immigrants (whom I think we should have blocked at the border if they weren't carrying an ACLU card) who rage about how liberal the now one paper is. So they have Sunday columnists, two flaming republicans, two who write together as "independents" meaning they have no ideas but like to bitch about both sides as only THEY have the right ideas (and the 6% of our voters to prove it) and a couple quite liberal progressive columnists. They rotate so on two Sundays you get insanitea, on one you get independent puffery and on two you get actual, real, ideas. Well, today is one of the nutjobs turn, Katherine Kersten, who is the biggest fool to ever write for any paper. She is most famous for taking studies, finding one conservative point, and writing an entire opinion piece about how that study supports conservatism. Needless to say she frothed at the mouth over gay marriage (seriously, you could see it on her picture on the Sunday Opinion page, well, I could) and how it would destroy straight marriage - had it a year now and nothing's changed. Nor has she. Today's article is headed "How DFL dogma is infecting your schools". Seriously. Republicans are the only ones WITH dogma, and even their Pope has deserted them on the importance of that now. But not Katherine, she can find a bogeyman under every bed and has dedicated her life to trying. Today she is on about the fact that our DFL majorities and our DFL governor dumped Bush's failed Leave No Child Behind act and support new approaches as well as teacher's unions. Republican dogma, of course, is to rid the world of unions especially teacher's unions. She doesn't mention that part. Which is just one more example of bearing false witness, or actually, lying. Sigh.

Arielle S (313)
Sunday September 22, 2013, 10:39 am
Sorry, Gene, the Repug way is to "do as I say, not as I do".....and obviously, their brains are wired very differently from ours since you can give them facts and figures by the busload and they still insist they are right. I hope they are voted out in Nov. because I'm running out of descriptive words for them... ass to zealot and all in between....

Deb E (63)
Sunday September 22, 2013, 1:22 pm
Still think we need laws against any elected official who tells a lie to those who elected them (and those who didn't elect them) once in office. And they need to be booted out when proven to be lying. Maybe then the American public would get some REAL people in elected government to actually do the job the people are paying them to do, and not the job the corporations are paying them to do.

David C (160)
Sunday September 22, 2013, 1:50 pm

Dianna M (16)
Sunday September 22, 2013, 2:14 pm
Gene and Arielle: is it lying if you truly believe it? The Republicans do seem to have an infinite capacity for self-delusion.

But it's us liberals who won't listen to reason, I've read it so many times . . . by people who have to spin and twist and tap-dance to come up with excuses as to why what they just said isn't BS. (Who, me? Bitter? Naw!)

And then there's that woman from Freedom Works, who's saying you should all burn your Obamacare cards . . . but first you have to download the card we're gonna design, print it, cut it out (and presumably laminate it.)

Lynn Squance (235)
Sunday September 22, 2013, 2:49 pm
“every single person under Obamacare” will pay a $1 abortion surcharge…"

What bear scat!!!!! As detailed by, there is no $1 abortion surcharge. There is no doubt that the issue is more complex than that one statement, but Huelskamp (R-KS) is oblivious to the complexity and the truth. That makes him very dangerous, as are all the parrots in Congress. By law, the Hyde Amendment, public funds cannot be used for abortions, and a change to that law is not in the ACA. There are so many more services, valuable services, that Planned Parenthood provides. Only about 3% of their business is about abortions and that is covered either by fee for service or fund raising (from non government sources). The right to lifers are twisting everything, as usual, while the Republicanus/Teabaggers hold fast to the rights of the unborn, but once born, walk the other way from the child by reducing SNAP, denying affordable healthcare, under funding education etc.

Birgit W (160)
Sunday September 22, 2013, 5:03 pm
Noted, thanks.

Joanne Dixon (38)
Sunday September 22, 2013, 5:14 pm
Dianna M, IMHO, if you truly believe it, it is not a lie, but it is still a falsehood. To me, to be a lie, the intent to deceive is necessary. However, if your falsehood is corrected and you don't change your message, NOW you are lying. And they are.

Deb E, great idea in concept, but it would certainly discriminate against incumbents, wouldn't it?

Sheila D (28)
Sunday September 22, 2013, 8:37 pm
If one lie won't work, well then, try another. Seems to be the rabid Republican mantra for the last 40 years. Thanks for the post, TC.

Karen Chestney (112)
Sunday September 22, 2013, 8:43 pm
Republicans not only want to starve the poor but if you get sick---you won't get any medical care-so just die. Maybe they should remember the French Revolution. The rich didn't fair well then, and history seems to repeat itself.

Edith B (146)
Sunday September 22, 2013, 10:20 pm
So many lies have been told repeatedly by the Republicans about the Affordable care act, and so many believe them. sad.

TomCat S (131)
Monday September 23, 2013, 4:05 am
Thanks to everyone, kudos to many, running way late here.

Lynn, if I were a bear, I'd be offended at the notion that I might have scatted something so foul.

Winn A (177)
Monday September 23, 2013, 7:30 am
There are wackos among us and their name is republican.

Terrie Williams (798)
Monday September 23, 2013, 12:38 pm
Don't move brain just hit the floor ....again. Sigh........

TomCat S (131)
Tuesday September 24, 2013, 4:11 am
Thanks to both!
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