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Open Thread - 9/24/2013


US Politics & Gov't  (tags: Open Thread )

TomCat
- 459 days ago - politicsplus.org
Personal news, a Jig Zone puzzle, 3 short takes, and a homemade cartoon (shown).



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Jennifer C. (169)
Tuesday September 24, 2013, 5:31 am
Thanks.
 

Pat A. (116)
Tuesday September 24, 2013, 5:40 am
OUCH!! Andy Borowitz has tapped into the zeitgeist, hasn't he – and drawn blood with his pen!

Re PR Watch – its that old revolving door again isn't it that has ruined so many govt agencies with people transferring from jobs there to private industry and back again!

"From Washington Post: Another poll shows Americans are strongly opposed to potentially shutting down the government if Congress doesn’t defund Obamacare.

"The CNBC poll shows 59 percent oppose the idea, compared to 19 percent who would shut down government before funding President Obama’s signature health care law…"

"Nevertheless, Republicans keep claiming that their tactic is the will of the American people. In fact, it is anti-American sedition!"

I do so agree TC! (And God protect the present Pope – who actually seems to have read and understood the Gospels!).
 

Gene Jacobson (256)
Tuesday September 24, 2013, 6:25 am
"The CNBC poll shows 59 percent oppose the idea, compared to 19 percent who would shut down government before funding President Obama’s signature health care law…
Nevertheless, Republicans keep claiming that their tactic is the will of the American people. In fact, it is anti-American sedition!"

Every poll shows the same thing. How the republicans persuade themselves they are in the majority on this issue, well either issue, shutdown or shutting off Obamacare before it really starts when the public is so clearly NOT in favor of either event is just absurd to think about. I know they have their own pollsters but do they know to get true results you have to survey more than just the 80 Tea Party fools in the House? Apparently not or they would not still be talking so foolishly. It really does lend credence to the idea that I've long held which is that they get ALL of their information from repugnican no-think tanks, Faux Noise and the likes of Rush and Bill and their spiritual content from Pat Robertson who is blaming Colorado's fires and floods on gays. Fools and damn fools, is there a real difference?

 

Arielle S. (317)
Tuesday September 24, 2013, 7:16 am
"In a poll taken over the weekend about the looming debt-ceiling crisis and government shutdown, most Americans said that they were totally excited about the new iPhone 5s." I'm not sure whether to laugh or cry - Andy Borowitz so often really hits the nail on the head - People stand in line for the new iphone, tv stars make $500,000 per episode, tennis players win millions.... but we cut food stamps? Yeah, our priorities are in the right place, sure they are.....
 

Pat B. (355)
Tuesday September 24, 2013, 7:19 am
Good cartoon, it's about time.!!! Glad to see your prayers were answered in the CEO...and good weather too.!! Take care, Tom, and thanks.!!!
 

Kit B. (276)
Tuesday September 24, 2013, 7:22 am

Thanks Andy, we love ya.

I have a hunch the Congress will find a last minute way to fund the government and kick the looming problems on down the road for another 3 months. Ignoring once again both the will of the people and the needs of the country.
As long as no one has their checks suspended by these fools I guess we should just hope the voters in their individual districts have had enough of their hours swinging in a hammock provided by the taxpayers.
 

Carlene V. (203)
Tuesday September 24, 2013, 8:08 am
Glad your prayers were answered Tom, now you can rest till the next game.

The Catholic church is in a pickle with this new Pope. Perhaps he's one of the few who realize why people are walking away from the church with their arcane laws put in place by others who could have been gay themselves. I'll take a wait and see attitude and still wonder why the last Pope left abruptly and won't talk, something is very fishy...

Yes, the rethugs will continue to spout their lies about Obamacare with only the Old Guard seemingly concerned with what will happen if Crazy Cruz gets his wish to shut down our government. Then again, they live in the bubble of telling a lie often enough that not only to their constituents believe them, they themselves believe it.
 

Mitchell D. (132)
Tuesday September 24, 2013, 10:00 am
Yes, Borowitz is spot on! The American electorate is too busy being entertained to care whether or not the country is slipping into the Republican cesspool! They are too busy texting while walking into traffic to notice the bulldozer coming at them from the right!
 

Elle B. (82)
Tuesday September 24, 2013, 12:17 pm
Ty Tom ... What about a "permanent" cultural exchange program ... USA Republicans for Russia's Sexual Minority Community (hopefully they would want to immigrate here) . . . I heard the Siberian Salt Mines reopened . . . Those Republicans should feel right at home doing a good "hard day's work" pulling themselves up in no time by their frozen bootstraps . . . such an opportunity for the self-reliant independent bunch ... and it would be so much easier to keep a close eye on the Bolsheviks and not have to worry about whether they're coming again all the time! Sounds like a match . . .





 

(0)
Tuesday September 24, 2013, 12:24 pm
Love Borowitz! I think though that the public's political apathy is brought about by the feeling that it doesn't matter what the majority want, that those politicians bought by big money will only serve their wealthy masters anyway. Even though most of us see the insanity happening and many are vocal .... will the GOP ever be a party for the people? Never! In fact, they answer many of our common sense protests by getting crazier and more extreme. Perhaps the only response to them IS getting obsessed with iPhones and such mindless distractions. At least iPhones are functional, unlike the GOP.

Regarding the new Pope, as an ex-Catholic I am pleasantly surprised, but wary. Time will tell as to whether he has any influence over those who like to call themselves Christian, but don't know squat about the teachings of Christ.
 

Lynn Squance (219)
Tuesday September 24, 2013, 12:45 pm
Puzzle — 3:40 Didn't want to spoil your fun so I backed off. Not to mention that I didn't want to get "gull goo" on me when you mashed them. They are green on the inside! We dissected a dead gull at camp when I was about 8. I use the pins of the feathers os floss, the same as mouse tails! That way I don't gag.

The New Yorker — Boy, do AB and the i5 marketers have the populace pegged right. Consumerism run rampant! And when that consumerism is impacted by their ill informed political choices and lack of attention, the people will bitch and then forget, yet again.

PR Watch — Now isn't that just a disaster in the making! Talk about your gross conflicts of interest and with the political nut jobs in Brewerstan, you know he won't get called out on it.

Washington Post — If Sen Lee is correct in his assessment below, then why all the parlour tricks and rhetoric against funding Obamacare? All that does is serve to make global markets jittery without cause. Not that the Republicanus/Teabaggers give a rat's ass about that or what the majority of the people want. For them, it is all about "blacktracking".

"No. We all know that the government is going to be funded. The questions is whether it will be funded with Obamacare or without," [Sen Mike] Lee [R-Utah] said on NBC's "Meet the Press" on Sunday.

Cartoon — Amen!!!!! Oh, that elephant appears to be wearing Scalia's glasses. I wonder how his executive search for a new Pope is going? Has Scalia skipped to the short list with his name the only one on the list yet?
 

Dave C. (227)
Tuesday September 24, 2013, 1:19 pm
thanks and how about them Broncos!
 

Yvonne White (233)
Tuesday September 24, 2013, 3:06 pm
I think think it's nice there's a CHRISTian Pope for the RepubliCONs to hate!:) The Media is finally admitting RepubliCONs are anti-American will!;)
 

Birgit W. (152)
Tuesday September 24, 2013, 5:07 pm
Noted.
 

Sheila D. (26)
Tuesday September 24, 2013, 9:11 pm
Every day I find I like Pope Francis more; let's hope the opposition doesn't poison him like the last Pope that was so "liberal". Great post, TomCat. Thanks.
 

Arcjhie B. (48)
Wednesday September 25, 2013, 2:09 am
Like to get a line on the 19% who are in favor of defunding! My guess is their I.D.,s will be very similar to the tea leaves in the t-bags. Very exaggerated!
 

Lloyd H. (46)
Wednesday September 25, 2013, 6:27 am
Every time I hear people go all warm and fuzzy about the Pope Francis I have no problem understanding why people vote Repug. It is called stupidity. Francis has not changed a single policy, which he can do "ex cathedra" when he is infallible, he is simply suggesting a change in tone not substance. He has not as he can ordered the Catholic Bishops to stop meddling in the politics of Choice, Contraception or LGBT Rights, which he can do just as the last Un-Holy One in Rome ordered the Nuns to shut up. He has not returned any of the Pedophile Crime evidence removed from the jurisdiction of local authorities by Papal Legates. He has done nothing but spout a few nice sounding words when he could actually do something. Until he actually does something he is nothing but a PR Spin Doctor.
 

Gene Jacobson (256)
Wednesday September 25, 2013, 7:17 am
You may be right, Lloyd, but it takes time to turn an organization as big as the Catholic church around, one can't stop it on a dime and reverse directions. When I first read of this pope and his age, I thought, oh oh, but now I wish he was younger and had more time to do what he seems to want to do which is turn the behemoth that is the Catholic institution in another direction. I'm not catholic, nor religious, but see this as the most positive thing to happen in that institution in many, many years. I'm thinking some of those Cardinals wish they had a do over on their vote because I doubt this is what anyone expected.
 

Robert B. (58)
Wednesday September 25, 2013, 7:19 am
LLoyd H., I think is a bit unfair to link the "stupidity of voting Repug." with liking the new Pope. Pope Francis can't just sweep in and fix everything at once. I think he is doing the right thing by laying the groundwork with a new tone of open mindedness. He has to be able to unite instead of split the church.

Not that I really care about religion, but I do think the new Pope is sincere and actually cares,
 

Lloyd H. (46)
Wednesday September 25, 2013, 7:32 am
Well just in time to make my point; today the Arch-diocese of Melbourne, Australia publicly announced that the Vatican under the authority of Pope Francis excommunicated thus defrocking Father Reynolds for his support of Same Sex marriage.
 

Gary A L. (137)
Wednesday September 25, 2013, 10:20 am
as a practicing Catholic I understand the monolith that is the Catholic church the new pope must move slowly to try changing the church or risk being replaced on way or another brovo an at least making a start
 

TomCat S. (231)
Thursday September 26, 2013, 3:02 am
Thanks everyone. Many kudos, Rushing.
 

Twyla Sparks (208)
Friday September 27, 2013, 6:53 pm
Thanks
 

Jo S. (533)
Saturday September 28, 2013, 8:53 pm
Wow, very interesting!
Thanks Cat.
 

James Maynard (68)
Monday October 7, 2013, 1:57 pm
Thanks TC!
 
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