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About Those ObamaCare Glitches


US Politics & Gov't  (tags: GOP Lies, Obamacare, Video )

TomCat
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TomCat S. (220)
Thursday October 3, 2013, 2:25 am
Republican pundits are having a field day over the many system glitches that people encountered on the assorted exchange sites. They are crowing that they were right all along, that ObamaCare is not ready for prime time, and that they were right to shut down the government over it. That’s not so. Who among you knows about the BSOD?
 

Lona Goudswaard (78)
Thursday October 3, 2013, 4:05 am
BSODs, how I've cursed them when I worked in IT almost two decades ago. But I've not encountered them under Windows 7, if I remember correctly. And the same will happen for the ACA system too. From the reports they're mostly due to system-overload which is only avoidable if more money is spend on more hardware. Renting it to get through the peaks would have been advisable.

As you say, TomCat, its absurdly ironical that the main problem seems to be the rush on ACA to get affordable healthcare. If I needed it, I would be out there 24/7 to get me some before those idiot Teabaggers find a way to repeal it.

What does worry me though, is that in my experience any system, no matter how good it is, can be brought to its knees by sabotage by people who do not want it to work. If there is just one Teabagger smart enough to launch an attack on it (or rather pay for having one launched), the whole system would come to a halt and nobody could get themselves healthcare. I hope the administration is prepared for that and the IT department has not been shut down too.
 

JL A. (286)
Thursday October 3, 2013, 5:19 am
A decade or so ago, when IBM partnered with Amway's Quixtar--the traffic crashed the IBM site, too, and the first week or so Quixtar had more traffic than it could handle, too--very common with major launches and usually considered a major success indicator.
 

Terrie Williams (783)
Thursday October 3, 2013, 5:33 am
Over 10 MILLION people tried to access the exchange sites and healthcare.gov had over 2.5 million of those hits alone. Tells me there are way more people wanting ACA than are against it. JL A is right, it is usually a major success indicator! That is also why I am holding off a few days before I get on it to see if I can get some insurance. Even if I don't qualify for assistance, I will find a way to get some kind of reasonable-rate insurance. I want the ACA...I want Obamacare...that's for all those braindead fools out there that don't understand that they are ONE IN THE SAME.
 

Pat A. (117)
Thursday October 3, 2013, 5:41 am
Oh MY!! I remember the BSOD all too well – and that you helped me when it started happening with my elderly laptop, TC! Oddly enough it stopped when I stopped moving the laptop and just kept it stationary – don't know why. As you say, any new computer system has teething problems – the Repuglicons are just trying to make mountains out of molehills with the new care system – and they are just showing that they are being petty and grasping at straws!

Lona and JL A are right - it is a mark of success, but they must be careful of attacks in cyber space!

 

Pat A. (117)
Thursday October 3, 2013, 5:45 am
That shows how long it takes me to type things - Terrie's comment wasn't there when I submitted mine - don't leave it too long Terrie - you don't want the Teabaggers to do something awful and stop coverage!
 

Kit B. (276)
Thursday October 3, 2013, 7:54 am

When the immediate rush passes and the site is not so over loaded, will the republicans comment on how smoothly the sign up is running? No way.

I keep seeing comments about how people like their insurance, so keep it! The law doesn't say any one must enter into the exchange and save money. I'm thrilled for dumb asses to keep paying a higher premium.

How this ends liberty is mystery, but then some hate Obama so much they would rather just blab about their limited information from FOX than actually learn what is really happening.
 

Dandelion G. (382)
Thursday October 3, 2013, 9:54 am
lol....you are so correct Kit, I couldn't agree more with your comment. We had about 15 to 20 people standing at our main crossroads downtown. The against ObamaCare or the Affordable Care Act had replaced the Save the Soul people who are usually there. Who knows, maybe it's the same people and they changed signs. In any case the first day of the Affordable Care Act they were there.

Is ok, they are allowed to stand there with their signs, I've no issue with that, I've stood on the other street corners next to the park that the Occupiers tend to use with my signs. Is good we still can do that. However, as someone who is use to standing with signs, over time one tends to get people asking questions and honks from horns of cars driving by in support. I stayed near enough to observe for awhile, there were no honking horns and only one person stopped, the rest of the pedestrians kept moving along. Might not be scientific but my observation was saying, that people passing through, which would be random, were not supporting their actions.
 

Arielle S. (316)
Thursday October 3, 2013, 10:50 am
Obamacare vs the Affordable Care Act - if nothing else, this proves how totally uninformed Americans can be. Sigh. Anything new takes some time to get to working smoothly - well, except for the GOP, that is - they will never be working smoothly and are always full of glitches. Therefore, I think we should recall all of them and defund them. Yesterday would be a good time to start.
 

Chris C. (156)
Thursday October 3, 2013, 12:06 pm
Of course the websites crashed...7 million went online before 7 AM the first day!
I saw some show where they were questioning people on the street - "do you prefer Obamacare or Afforadable Care Act". I laughed out loud when these people would say "Oh - Affordable Care Act". When asked why they gave ridiculous answers, which, when further questioned "why?", they didn't have a clue.
 

Dave C. (236)
Thursday October 3, 2013, 2:39 pm
hmmmmmm.....I guess too few people want Obamacare so the blue screens must represent empty blue skies.........or empty minds of Repuglicon voters and politicians....
 

Carrie B. (315)
Thursday October 3, 2013, 3:11 pm
I don't think this is a BSOD problem ~ rather it's I want coverage NOW is the problem. It's really a shame the GOP/TP refuse to admit the the ACA popularity is the real "problem".
 

Carmen S. (619)
Thursday October 3, 2013, 3:13 pm
Thanks Tom, while it's not perfect, the site wouldn't be crashing if so many people were not trying to sign up, obviously people do want it.
 

Robert B. (59)
Thursday October 3, 2013, 3:23 pm
BSOD, thankfully I never had to encounter one, I managed to avoid Windows altogether by starting on an Atari ST and then moving to Apple computers. All this indicates is that the ACA is SO POPULAR that the system was overwhelmed. That is a SURE SIGN OF SUCCESS and the Greedy Obnoxious Prick party will just have to get used to it (BOO HOO). The talibanTeabaggers need to understand that PEOPLE WANT HEALTH INSURANCE!
 

Robert B. (59)
Thursday October 3, 2013, 3:28 pm
I'll bet you that a lot of these whiners will secretly get on the exchange to see if they can get cheaper insurance then what they have now. :)
 

Dandelion G. (382)
Thursday October 3, 2013, 3:32 pm
I bet they do as well Robert, closest ObamaCare insured....lol Is always amazing when it is someone else who is suffering or struggling that is ok, but if they can save a buck well sign me right up.
 

Yvonne White (233)
Thursday October 3, 2013, 4:37 pm
Illinois had few problems, anyone elligible for Medicaid help with Obamacare was directed to the State Agency – people needing the Federal line did have problems. Apparently Blue Cross/Blue Shield was overloaded with calls!

I would think people would know by now that they can keep the Insurance they already have and don't Have to call if its Employer provided or Medicare or Medicaid..but News Media hasn't really Explained that much..

The main thing News Media Hasn't explained is that CONgre$$ is losing its Federal Employees Health Benefits Program and HAS to buy insurance through the Affordable Care Act exchanges! http://www.snopes.com/politics/medical/28thamendment.asp Even though they will still get "help" in purchasing it!
 

Yvonne White (233)
Thursday October 3, 2013, 4:39 pm
Robert, they HAVE to purchase through the same exchange as "real people"!! *gasp*!!! THAT's why they've voted to destroy Obamacare 43 times & are holding the Country hostage!!!!
 

Suzanne O. (32)
Thursday October 3, 2013, 5:22 pm
My Congressman is a sponsor of Bill H.R. 3067 also known as "No Obamacare Subsidies for Members of Congress Act"

I encourage this bill to be passed as a good faith gesture to the American people.


I would check it out and if you find it worthy call your congressional representative.
 

Lynn Squance (228)
Thursday October 3, 2013, 10:15 pm
Since about 1976 when Canadian banks were initially rolling out "computers" in their branch network, I was responsible for loading updates to programmes or initiating new programmes on the branch servers. The updates came in the form of 5 inch floppies sent out by the Bank`s computer specialists. Even if I did absolutely everything correctly, which was about 99% of the time, there were always programme "failure to initialise" problems on the BSOD. I did not see any windows applications until the 90`s sometime, but by then, most of the programme updates were done centrally. We no longer had inbranch servers. Then there were still some problems. Not only that, even though the programmes were rigourously tested before rollout, once the actual "client load" was in, programmes became sluggish, or non responsive, or the BSOD showed its ugly face. To me, this is normal and to be expected.

The administration is doing the correct thing by adding additional servers and spreading the load out. That will increase response times and lead to less frustration.

When I think of all this, and then listen to the Republicanus/Teabaggers trying to make hay with "not ready for primetime" and the American people don`t want Obamacare, I just have to laugh at their supercilious bull shit, which has graduated from bear scat to deep, deep bull shit!

The ones that aren`t "ready for prime time" are the Republicanus/Teabaggers.

" Yvonne --- Don`t forget that according to Chuck Todd, newsies don`t have any responsibility to ensure information is in fact correct! He is such a putz!
 

TomCat S. (220)
Friday October 4, 2013, 2:02 am
Thanks everyone.

LOL!! Sheryl, I bet they just changed signs.
 

Gene Jacobson (266)
Friday October 4, 2013, 9:21 am
So, just what systems do they know of that came up (not even on such short notice - this has set records for being put together as quickly as it has - for example, a program I worked with was given a deadline in 1988 to have a system up and running statewide by 10/1/95, all states, MN made it 10/1/97, CA made it last year) perfectly. Apples IOS 7 had a version 7.0.2 within a week. EVERY system comes up with errors and glitches no matter how perfectly planned, something always goes wrong. Based on the amount of time state had to get this up and running, I think they did wonderful jobs, in those states that opted out and the US system was used, there were more delays, but on the whole, this is working and working well. Sure there are still things to be worked out and fixed. But most people might understand it from another point of View. I use Win7 and EVERY month Microsoft "fixes" anywhere from 5 to 25 important or critically important issues. And Win 7 has been out for many years. Expect perfection in the first attempt at running virtually any software program and you will be disappointed. Point at such realities and use them to call the entire system a failure and you are a fool. And a republican. But I repeat myself.
 
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